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You could have been forgiven for thinking opposing coaches John Worsfold and Kevin Sheedy had swapped sides in describing their teams’ record-breaking performances in the AFL game at Blacktown on Sunday.
The former downplayed his surging team’s sizzling start to the season by describing West Coast’s 81-point flogging of Greater Western Sydney as “a tough day at the office”.
The Eagles kicked a club record first quarter score of 11.4, which also equalled their highest score for any quarter, and ultimately cruised to victory 23.12 (150) to 10.9 (69).
The free-scoring Eagles kicked over 20 goals for the third straight game this season despite missing several injured stars and were too slick and potent for the hard-working GWS.
The fledgling Giants made a more modest dent on their record book, notching their biggest game total following 63- and 129-point defeats by Sydney and North Melbourne.
However, an upbeat Sheedy drew solace from the fact the Giants were only outscored 12 goals to eight over the last three quarters and won the last quarter by 13 points in front of 6,875 spectators at the first AFL game at Blacktown International Sports Park.
He predicted they could be a very good team in four weeks once they got some key players back from injury, while Worsfold said the Giants would eventually become an awesome side.
Trying to prise a compliment from Worsfold for his own team’s performance proved almost impossible, the West Coast boss already looking to the mouth-watering home clash with Hawthorn on Saturday.
Asked to assess the game against the Giants, a deadpan Worsfold said “a tough day at the office and we look forward to the pairing for next week’s game against the Hawks”.
Worsfold was pleased with the effort of Mitch Brown and some of the other players who took their opportunity in the absence of several injured stars.
While the Giants were at times bullied by the physically imposing West Coast, five-goal Eagle Luke Shuey recognised they wouldn’t get the same latitude against the far more experienced and potent Hawks.
“We did get away with a lot due to playing an inexperienced team,” Shuey said.
“I think if we would have done some of the things we did today against Hawthorn or Carlton, we probably would have been shown up a bit.”
Sheedy lamented another poor start by his men but said they were still heading in the right direction.
“We worked hard through the game, we gave a lot of free kicks that ended up in goals that hurt us and when we stopped doing that we started playing better,” Sheedy said.
“I thought we were very competitive the last three quarters and that was a great experience for our boys.”
Worsfold reported injuries for Bradd Dalziell (knee) and Daniel Kerr but expected to regain captain Darren Glass and Matt Rosa for the Hawthorn game though he wasn’t sure about Matt Priddis.
Chris Masten and Quinten Lynch each kicked three goals for the Eagles with Masten adding 30 touches, one behind the team-leading Scott Selwood.
Callan Ward tallied 36 and Tom Scully 30 for the Giants with back-up ruckman Jonathan Giles kicking three goals.
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April 16th 2012 @ 9:20am
Nico VIC said | April 16th 2012 @ 9:20am | Report comment
Is this also a record low crowd for AFL?
April 16th 2012 @ 9:37am
The Cattery said | April 16th 2012 @ 9:37am | Report comment
No.
Brisbane Bears had crowds of around 4,000 in their final year at Carrara, and in fact North Melbourne has had similar crowds in the past, both at Arden St, and in their travels through the Gold Coast and Canberra.
But in this day an age, when you are regularly getting crowds of 50k, 60k, 70k and 80k at the G, a few small crowds here and there aren’t going to matter all that much.
In fact, one of its last home games, in 1914, University got 2,618 at the G against Melbourne.
April 16th 2012 @ 10:53am
Strummer Jones said | April 16th 2012 @ 10:53am | Report comment
Yes i remember going to that Uni game at the G in 1914. Atmosphere was terrible, and in fact half the crowd was made up of aunties, uncles, parents etc of the actual players and umpires.
April 16th 2012 @ 11:21am
Nathan of Perth said | April 16th 2012 @ 11:21am | Report comment
Forget the football match, share with us your secrets of long life.
April 16th 2012 @ 3:31pm
JohnM said | April 16th 2012 @ 3:31pm | Report comment
Haha. Classic comment!
April 16th 2012 @ 4:50pm
stabpass said | April 16th 2012 @ 4:50pm | Report comment
I was there, but it wasn’t the way i remember it, the crowd was full of Uni kids who had just signed up to go away and be killed in WW1, in fact if memory serves me right, 1914 was the begginning of the end for Uni, as pretty much all their players joined up, so much, that they couldn’t put a team on the paddock.
Funny how time changes peoples memories.
April 16th 2012 @ 3:44pm
The Cattery said | April 16th 2012 @ 3:44pm | Report comment
In fact, in University’s last home game in 1911, against Geelong at the MCG, they got an attendance of 1,071.
Since 1925, the lowest attendances were recorded during WWII, when two games attracted 2,000.
In 1992, the Bears attracted 3,059 against Footscray, in their last year at Carrara, the lowest crowd in the modern era.
Since 1997, the lowest crowd was North vs the Eagles at Carrara, 6,354.
GWS’ crowd on the weekend was the second lowest since 1997.
Constant themes: Carrara and the Eagles.
April 16th 2012 @ 9:57am
Macca said | April 16th 2012 @ 9:57am | Report comment
I don’t want to sound like a broken record but the positive reports coming from channel 7 on this result towrds the Giants is beyond belief. 81 point loss with the eagle missing 4 of their best 22 and everytihng is great because they won the last quarter by 2 goals.
Is it possible that after being 11 goals up at 1/4 time the eagles may have taken the foot of the peddle?
April 16th 2012 @ 10:03am
The Cattery said | April 16th 2012 @ 10:03am | Report comment
Yeh, they obviously took their foot off the peddle.
Interestingly, the best news for the giants is that they got in a few big hits on the Eagles, quite impressive to see, especially since they were up against much stronger opponents.
April 16th 2012 @ 10:11am
Macca said | April 16th 2012 @ 10:11am | Report comment
Then why the love fest? Can’t we have some un biased reporting or has the AFL decreed all GWS games muct be reported positively?
April 16th 2012 @ 10:49am
Strummer Jones said | April 16th 2012 @ 10:49am | Report comment
No, I think the C7 comments sound about right. I was at the game and Giants actually had some decent passages of play. More importantly, you have to take C7 comments into context. If it were say Melbourne playing and they were waxing lyrical about their future potential, then you’d have every right to complain.
With the crowd, to me it “appeared” there were 10,000 there. There were a number of places I observed where you could sneak in easily under fences etc, but 3000 people getting in undetected is a bit of a stretch I agree. Additionally, Blacktown is really very much on the fringe of the West and a mongrel of a place to get to (see Google Maps). The real test will be attendance at Skoda Stadium, so Iets see what happens there.
April 16th 2012 @ 10:51am
The Cattery said | April 16th 2012 @ 10:51am | Report comment
You ought to listen to Crackers on Mondayitis!
April 16th 2012 @ 10:58am
Strummer Jones said | April 16th 2012 @ 10:58am | Report comment
April 16th 2012 @ 11:06am
Macca said | April 16th 2012 @ 11:06am | Report comment
How is “The GWS put in a strong performance in going to down to the Eagles” at all accurate we are talking about a 14 goal loss?
the issue of future potential should not get confused about reports on the actual match, especially when West Cost rested key players and clearly eased off late.
If we are going to have to put up with hearing how fantastic 14 goal losses are all season then it will be a long year.
April 16th 2012 @ 12:10pm
Strummer Jones said | April 16th 2012 @ 12:10pm | Report comment
I think it should read “In the context of this being the youngest AFL side in the comp, their 3rd game, and half the team having not yet reached puberty, the GWS put in a strong performance in going down to the Eagles”.
Its like say Sam Reid for the Swans. Everyone thinks he’s doing “great” but they are talking in the context of how good he will/might be in 2-4 years time, rather than “he’ll get 3 Sandover/Magarey Medal votes for that effort’.
April 16th 2012 @ 2:13pm
Macca said | April 16th 2012 @ 2:13pm | Report comment
How about – ““In the context of this being the youngest AFL side in the comp, their 3rd game, and half the team having not yet reached puberty, the GWS put in a strong performance in going down to the Eagles by a massive 81 points which only serves to highlight how hard this season is going to be”.
Instead we get “The GWS put in a strong performance in going to down to the Eagles” hardly great journalism or balanced reporting.
Sam REid is actually competitive now though, he is taking contested grabs, he is kicking goals (although missing a few). To be comparable to GWS he would have to half heis possession tally and spend at least a 1/4 of each game on the bench, instead he holds down a key position in an unbeaten team.
April 16th 2012 @ 2:24pm
Macca said | April 16th 2012 @ 2:24pm | Report comment
That should really read “going down to a below strength Eagles outfit”
April 16th 2012 @ 2:26pm
The Cattery said | April 16th 2012 @ 2:26pm | Report comment
It was a pretty strong team they put out there.
April 16th 2012 @ 2:41pm
Macca said | April 16th 2012 @ 2:41pm | Report comment
Embley, Glass, Priddis & Rosa are some pretty big outs and would make at least 3 goals difference I would suggest.
April 16th 2012 @ 2:54pm
The Cattery said | April 16th 2012 @ 2:54pm | Report comment
Embley has a long term injury.
Rosa is only just in the best 18.
Both Priddis and Glass are very important players for the Eagles – but it’s not such a huge list of outs to be honest.
April 16th 2012 @ 3:09pm
Macca said | April 16th 2012 @ 3:09pm | Report comment
Embley, Priddis & Glass would all be in their top 5 or 6. It doesn’t matter that embley is a long term injury or not he still wasn’t playing.
Take 3 players of that quality out of any side and you would notice a big difference. Look at rhe difference Tarrant, Ball and Johnson will make at Collingwood.
It clearly wasn’t West coasts full strength side and probably had it been the margin would of been 100 points.
And who that West Coast brought in would beat Rosa into the 22 consistently.
April 16th 2012 @ 3:19pm
The Cattery said | April 16th 2012 @ 3:19pm | Report comment
Yes, I agree Embley is a very important player, but he isn’t just missing for GWS, he is missing for everyone for most of the season, i.e. it’s not just a free kick for GWS.
April 16th 2012 @ 3:27pm
Macca said | April 16th 2012 @ 3:27pm | Report comment
I didn’t say it was , Isaid the Eagles were under strength which you can’t argue with and which makes the whole let’s praise the Giants for getting smashed by 81 points line even less credible.
April 16th 2012 @ 3:39pm
Nathan of Perth said | April 16th 2012 @ 3:39pm | Report comment
Glass, Priddis and Rosa all starters. And no Le Cras and Nicoski, *sob*!
Embley I think has finally run out of puff though, I don’t think its a huge loss to the team’s strength.
I don’t think anyone can honestly say, though, that if we had put Glass in back and Priddis in the middle to wrench the clearance advantage back our way and, crucially, if we hadn’t put the cue in the rack in the middle of the *second quarter* that we wouldn’t have threatened 180.
April 16th 2012 @ 3:49pm
The Cattery said | April 16th 2012 @ 3:49pm | Report comment
How long is Nicoski out for?
April 16th 2012 @ 3:54pm
Macca said | April 16th 2012 @ 3:54pm | Report comment
Nathan of Perth – my point exactly and yet it is reported as a great performance from the Giants.
April 16th 2012 @ 4:00pm
Nathan of Perth said | April 16th 2012 @ 4:00pm | Report comment
Out for better than half the bloody year… I suppose I can’t complain too terribly – after all, we had a good run with injury last year so that was always going to balance out.
April 17th 2012 @ 10:42am
Strummer Jones said | April 17th 2012 @ 10:42am | Report comment
“That should really read “going down to a below strength Eagles outfit””
But GWS are under strength as well are they not? Aside from their own injuries to at least 2 good players, they do not yet have the ‘strength’, body sizes, and years of experience of WCE, so I say “The understrength GWS put in a solid performance, and on a points scale system whereby we take into account years of experience, age, games played, body weight, GWS actually won the game by 3 goals, 2 behinds”.
April 17th 2012 @ 10:51am
Nathan of Perth said | April 17th 2012 @ 10:51am | Report comment
Is that one of those newfangled “moral victories” I keep hearing about?
April 17th 2012 @ 10:56am
Macca said | April 17th 2012 @ 10:56am | Report comment
Strummer I assume you are jokoing wiht that comment, GWS are missing who Patton and O’Hailpin, the Eagels were missing Embley, Rosa, Nicoski, Le Cras, Priddis & Glass and clearly put the cue in the rack after 1/4 time.
If you and others want to keep saying how great 15 goal thumpings are go ahead but you are deluding yourselves.
Also given the fact that the likes of Brogan, Cornes et el are in the GWS side what exactly was the difference in average age and games played between the west coast & GWS sides on Saturday?
April 17th 2012 @ 11:00am
Macca said | April 17th 2012 @ 11:00am | Report comment
TO answer my own question:
Giants………Av Games: 41………Av Age: 21 yrs 233 days
Eagles………Av Games: 76………Av Age: 23 yrs 200 days
So on average about a season and a half difference – I can’t see that adding up to 100 plus points.
April 17th 2012 @ 11:13am
Ian Whitchurch said | April 17th 2012 @ 11:13am | Report comment
Macca,
Lies, damn lies, and statistics … but in any case, I dont care. Its a very deliberate strategy, and we’re getting as many good kids as we can, and getting as many games into them as we can, and we’re doing this because 1961 to 2011 is an awfully long time to wait for a premiership.
And I still had West Coast supporters tell me they thought we would beat Melbourne.
April 17th 2012 @ 11:19am
Macca said | April 17th 2012 @ 11:19am | Report comment
Ian – SO when you use Stat’s they are exposing the truth but when I do they are lies?
“And I still had West Coast supporters tell me they thought we would beat Melbourne” And I had a bloke tell me he could beat black caviar in a foot race, what does that prove?
April 17th 2012 @ 11:31am
Macca said | April 17th 2012 @ 11:31am | Report comment
Just for the record Ian – Melb………Av Games: 62………Av Age: 23 yrs 65 days
April 17th 2012 @ 12:25pm
Ian Whitchurch said | April 17th 2012 @ 12:25pm | Report comment
Macca,
Statustics dont lie, statisticians do .. and they usually do it by picking which of average, mode and median to use to tell a false story.
Four players represent 950 games of experience.
Five players represent 269 games of experience.
The entire rest of the GWS list started playing AFL this year, and had 2 or fewer games as of Saturday.
Age is on a similar distribution as well.
And for first year players, Im happy with them, and Im very happy that GWS didnt use the Hire Moar Spuds plan of Fremantle and the Brisbane Bears (although, to be fair, GWS had the option to do another strategy, in a way Freo and Brisbane arguably didnt).
April 17th 2012 @ 1:13pm
Macca said | April 17th 2012 @ 1:13pm | Report comment
Ian – How is the Melbourne experience split, sure there would be more players with more than 2 games but there is quite a few with less than 22, even more with less than 50.
I am not trying to say that other teams are less experienced just that the arguement that GWS is a team full of 18 year old kids is a bit of a myth, as you point out there was 9 players who have at least a couple of years of AFL experience in that team and there is a few other mature age recruits.
And were you one of the lying statisticians when you focused on tackle differential rather than total tackles laid to try to demonstrate GWS were harder at it than Melbourne. You now what they say about people in glass houses.
April 17th 2012 @ 3:23pm
Strummer Jones said | April 17th 2012 @ 3:23pm | Report comment
There are only 4 pockets on an Aussie Rules field, not 6, so not sure about this “cue in the rack business”.
On my AFL issued android app, it calculates that GWS won by 2 goals. I didn’t write the program, so don’t shoot the messenger. If its any consolation, I do at least agree that WCE should finish higher than GWS at the end of the year (although the calculator predicts GWS will finish higher than WCE on points when factoring in age, weight, experience etc and they will win about 18 moral victories to WCE’s 2. Unfortunately when GWS win a game they actually lose a moral victory, which is a bit of a bummer).
April 17th 2012 @ 3:31pm
Macca said | April 17th 2012 @ 3:31pm | Report comment
Well I think you have just proved 2 things, most apps are a ointless waste of time and the AFL are ridiculously keen to have positive messages go out about GWS.
April 17th 2012 @ 3:56pm
Strummer Jones said | April 17th 2012 @ 3:56pm | Report comment
Nah, this ones a real beauty. I don’t think it sends any messages though, but I’ll check it out again tonight.
Did you mean oinkless, or ointless? I think you meant oinkless, as in none of those pigs from Angry Birds are on the app, no?
April 17th 2012 @ 4:05pm
Macca said | April 17th 2012 @ 4:05pm | Report comment
Angry Bids would give you a more meaningful analysis of the game.
April 17th 2012 @ 4:35pm
Strummer Jones said | April 17th 2012 @ 4:35pm | Report comment
Angry Bids? That’s ebay isn’t it? Angry Birds is when WCE lose a moral victory to GWS
April 17th 2012 @ 4:45pm
Macca said | April 17th 2012 @ 4:45pm | Report comment
Yeah I am sure their were a lot of disappoint Eagels fans on the weekend crying “We only beat them by 81 point with 6 of our best players out, they can claim a moral victory now”
You really should get serious strummer, you are not as funny as you thnk.
April 18th 2012 @ 5:42pm
Dingo said | April 18th 2012 @ 5:42pm | Report comment
@ Macca, using your logic on average games is a bit like someone with one foot in boiling water and the other in ice water and they say that their feet are warm.
April 19th 2012 @ 9:11am
Macca said | April 19th 2012 @ 9:11am | Report comment
Dingo – Yes averages can be misleading but look at West Coast they have Cox, Lynch, Kerr and couple of others who would be dragging the average up just like Cornes and co are dragging up GWS’s. Yes they have more players with more than 2 games experience but my point is that it’s not like the are all 100 games veterans, there are plenty in the eagles side wiht less than 50 games experience, so to argue as Strummer did that an 81 point loss is somehow a victory does not add up to me.
Melbourne is in a similar boat.
April 16th 2012 @ 11:23am
Nathan of Perth said | April 16th 2012 @ 11:23am | Report comment
Quite impressive to see them hit like dogs unafraid of a few weeks suspended?
God damn that Sheedy anyway.
And everything after the first quarter was more an exercise in injury avoidance so drawing conclusions from the match is tricky on all sides.
April 16th 2012 @ 2:12pm
The Cattery said | April 16th 2012 @ 2:12pm | Report comment
A few of those hits were a case of running straight at a 50/50 ball and collecting the bloke coming from the opposite direction.
Sheeds and Choco would be thrilled with those efforts, absolutely thrilled, would hold them up as examples of where the rest of the team needs to be at to become competitive.
April 16th 2012 @ 3:40pm
Nathan of Perth said | April 16th 2012 @ 3:40pm | Report comment
Don’t defend them! Sheedy isn’t even a human being anyway, he’s from Essendon!
April 16th 2012 @ 3:44pm
Ian Whitchurch said | April 16th 2012 @ 3:44pm | Report comment
Im happy with GWS being goons, playing a physical game and dishing out some high shots and general intimidation.
Lets face it, if they didnt, then with a team of 18 year olds, they would get steamrolled.
April 16th 2012 @ 3:48pm
The Cattery said | April 16th 2012 @ 3:48pm | Report comment
As Sheeds told the boys before their debut game: don’t ever let any player or any team…DOMINATE YOU!!
April 16th 2012 @ 3:57pm
Macca said | April 16th 2012 @ 3:57pm | Report comment
Geez Ian I am glad they didn’t get steamrolled, all that intimidation kept it a close one at 81 points and the bare 11 goals by quarter time.
They certainly aren’t letting anyone dominate them are they.
April 16th 2012 @ 4:28pm
Ian Whitchurch said | April 16th 2012 @ 4:28pm | Report comment
Macca,
Absolutely – Im happy with the tackle count, the contested possessions and the attitude the team showed.
Far better than Melbourne, which is also taking beatings week in week out, has no hope for the future and is letting teams dominate them.
April 16th 2012 @ 4:42pm
Macca said | April 16th 2012 @ 4:42pm | Report comment
Ian – Melbourne has more hope than you give them credit for. Yes they are in transition and GWS poaching Scully doesn’t exactly help but look at the ages of the group, Frawley, Grimes, Mckenzie, Strauss, Watts, clark Tapscott & Trengrove plus the likes of Magner & Couch. They will improve and they will win more games than GWS and the suns this year. I am not saying they are even close to a good side but they are far from without hope.
How many points does it have to get to before you call it steam rolled? How many goals does a team have to kick in a quarter before you call it dominated?
April 17th 2012 @ 11:00am
Ian Whitchurch said | April 17th 2012 @ 11:00am | Report comment
Macca,
http://www.footywire.com/afl/footy/ft_team_rankings?year=2012&type=DA&sby=6
AFL stats over the last three games, organised by differential between stat and opponents stat.
On average, Melbourne’s opponents are averaging 17 more tackles a game than Melbourne are. GWS’s opponents are averaging 5 more tackles a game than GWS have.
Melbourne are averaging 126 less disposals than their opponents are. GWS are averaging 58 less.
GWS’ elder leadership – all obtained for basically free – is going excellently, with McDonald, Cornes and Power all performing well, and Brogan being a good emergency backup for Giles.
GWS’ second tier players in Giles and Mohr are also going well – and these are low-dollar free agents picked up from the SANFL and VFL.
Melbourne’s leadership group, on the other hand, have either been dropped, or are playing at GWS. Or both.
April 17th 2012 @ 11:16am
Macca said | April 17th 2012 @ 11:16am | Report comment
Ian GWS have laid 166 tackles, Melbourne 164 so not even a tackle a game difference.
GWS are well in front on total disposals 1094 to 879 but it doesn’t list disposal efficiency. In fact GWS are right up there in terms of disposals ahead of the Swans, Adelaide, Essndon, Collingwood & Geelong – It isn’t necessarily a good thing!
Melbourne have also scored 31 goals to GWS’ 23 and 24 point to 22, so a total of 10 more scoring shots which indicates Melbourne are much more efficient with the ball (28 possessions per goal compared to 47.5)
Also I didn’t say that Melbourne were a good side, in fact quite the opposite, but only that they are far from without hope.
And as for GWS old brigade, beside the fact that McDonald has blayed one game and then got suspended, Power & Brogan have missed games through injury already how long can you see them actually playing for? And they are only going to get slower.
April 16th 2012 @ 10:03am
The Cattery said | April 16th 2012 @ 10:03am | Report comment
For those interested in the crowd numbers for round 3, courtesy of Roar regular, The Wookie:
Round 3 Final Crowds
Carlton v Collingwood (MCG) – 84,259
Richmond v Melbourne (MCG) – 49,826
Port Adelaide v Sydney (Footy Park) – 19,032
Fremantle v Brisbane (Subiaco) – 33,473
Gold Coast v Essendon (Carrara) – 17,069
Bulldogs v St Kilda (Docklands) – 28,971
GWS v West Coast (Blacktown) – 6,875
Hawthorn v Adelaide (MCG) – 33,524
North v Geelong (Etihad) – 29,630
Round 3 Total: 302,659
Round 3 Average: 33,628
2011 Round 3 Total: 321,186
Record Round 3 Total: 350,885 (2008)
2012 Round 1-3 Aggregate: 981,121 (27 matches)
2012 Round 1-3 Average: 36,337
2011 Round 1-3 Aggregate: 909,330 (24 matches)
2011 Round 1-3 Average: 37,889
Notes:
* Carlton v Collingwood (84,259) highest drawing match so far this year, and the 7th time from the last 8 meetings that its been over 80,000 (and the 8th was 79,000)
* GWS v West Coast (6,875) lowest drawing home and away match since 1996 (Fitzroy v Bulldogs @ Western Oval (5,083).
April 16th 2012 @ 2:07pm
Nathan of Perth said | April 16th 2012 @ 2:07pm | Report comment
Massaging of the figures … they’re right there in a very raw form, both averages and aggregates included WITH numbers of games.
April 16th 2012 @ 2:08pm
The Cattery said | April 16th 2012 @ 2:08pm | Report comment
If you say so.
For the first three rounds of the AFL season, they have managed to crack 300k for each round, and those three rounds include both GWS and the Suns hosting two home games, the two lowest drawing teams.
That’s a pretty good effort.
Once you get to 18 teams, and 9 games per round, to continue averaging 36+k per game is pretty hard. It will be very difficult for the AFL to maintain it, but for the moment, 3 rounds in, they are managing it.
If you don’t believe me, check out one of the biggest soccer comps in the world, the Serie A, with its paltry 19k per game average attendance.
Whatever sport you follow, get back to us when that sport manages to get up to 18 teams, and compare the average attendances at that time.
Hopefully, I’ll still be alive in 30 years for you to be able to make said comparison.
April 16th 2012 @ 2:27pm
Lazza said | April 16th 2012 @ 2:27pm | Report comment
How about talking about TOTAL attendances rather than averages which can be very misleading.
The Big Bash or America’s NFL have very, very short seasons so average crowds always look good. When you have to play 40 rounds plus several cup competitions and you can still get that kind of average then you’re doing well.
The German Bundesliga is king!
April 16th 2012 @ 2:40pm
Matt F said | April 16th 2012 @ 2:40pm | Report comment
If we’re talking about total crowds then the MLB, Nippon Baseball (Japan), NBA, NFL (despite playing 50 fewer games then the Bundesliga it gets 4mil more people through the gates,) NHL and EPL all beat the Bundesliga.
Given that the Bundesliga is currently second around the world in terms of average crowds (behind the NFL obviously) I’d run with the average line if I were you
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_sports_attendance_figures
Admittedly they are all based on 2011 figures
April 16th 2012 @ 2:56pm
Lazza said | April 16th 2012 @ 2:56pm | Report comment
Yet the EPL is the world’s most popular sports league? That tells me that total TV ratings is far more important than average/total attendances.
Where does the AFL get most of it’s money from?
April 16th 2012 @ 3:06pm
The Cattery said | April 16th 2012 @ 3:06pm | Report comment
Yes, yes, the EPL and Bundesliga are much bigger than the AFL – congratulations! The two countries involved have triple the population of Australia, and virtually no competition from other sports.
The AFL and 18 clubs have total revenues approaching $1 billion per annum. This year, about one quarter of that will come from media rights, about the same again from sponsorship, around $130 million from memberships, and the remainder comes from other match day revenue, merchandise, gambling, etc.
April 16th 2012 @ 3:19pm
Ian Whitchurch said | April 16th 2012 @ 3:19pm | Report comment
Lazza,
Between the AFL and the clubs, it’s very roughly split into three roughly equal slices between crowd and membership revenue, sponsorships and TV money.
April 16th 2012 @ 3:42pm
Nathan of Perth said | April 16th 2012 @ 3:42pm | Report comment
Well we can say the Eagles are getting more each from its Sponsorship and its Membership revenue streams than it is getting from any television stipends and AFL grants.
April 16th 2012 @ 3:45pm
The Cattery said | April 16th 2012 @ 3:45pm | Report comment
And it gets zero from pokies!
April 17th 2012 @ 3:25pm
Strummer Jones said | April 17th 2012 @ 3:25pm | Report comment
Answer : Pies, pasties and sausage rolls
April 16th 2012 @ 2:40pm
Matt F said | April 16th 2012 @ 2:40pm | Report comment
Double Post. For some reason the reply function’s not working on this article…..
April 16th 2012 @ 2:44pm
Norm said | April 16th 2012 @ 2:44pm | Report comment
When Australia’s population = Germany’s then we can talk about Kaisers. In the meantime the AFL is doing very well in a country of 23 mill.
April 16th 2012 @ 2:48pm
Norm said | April 16th 2012 @ 2:48pm | Report comment
When Australia’s population = Germany’s then we can talk about who is the Kaiser. Right now the AFL is doing very well in a country of just 23 mill.
April 16th 2012 @ 2:48pm
Norm said | April 16th 2012 @ 2:48pm | Report comment
Double post for me also!
April 17th 2012 @ 5:16pm
TW said | April 17th 2012 @ 5:16pm | Report comment
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April 19th 2012 @ 7:33pm
SUPREMO said | April 19th 2012 @ 7:33pm | Report comment
Melbourne Heart get more people to their home games than GWS
April 19th 2012 @ 10:13pm
Norm said | April 19th 2012 @ 10:13pm | Report comment
GWS home average = 22,500 so far, so Heart must be doing well.
But Melbourne is the sporting capital of Australia!