Brisbane Roar’s ACL campaign is in tatters
Roar Guru By Melanie Dinjaski, 18 Apr 2012
Brisbane Roar's Henrique celebrates his goal against the Central Coast Mariners during the second leg of the major semi-final in Gosford on Sunday, April 8, 2012. (AAP Image/Paul Miller)
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Glory in the AFC Asian Champion’s League is now no more than a pipe dream for Brisbane Roar, having lost 1-2 to Ulsan Hyundai in Queensland overnight.
With Brisbane Roar, whose logo is a lion, taking on Ulsan Hyundai whose mascot is the horangi (or tiger) the encounter was a deadest cat fight, and it proved to be just as feisty and intense.
It was a sluggish start from Brisbane. On a slow and rugged pitch that saw the ball bobble and bounce unpredictably, the Roar’s style of play was tested very early and it took a while before they clicked into gear. However it wasn’t until the 11th minute, the time of Ulsan’s first goal, that this occurred.
Under attack from two Ulsan players, in what was a far too frequent scene on the night, Mitch Nichols coughed up the ball in his own half, which allowed Colombian Juan Estiven Velez to score an unbelievable goal from well outside the area.
The Hyundai A-League grand finalists were no doubt rattled by the goal, but from there looked far more determined despite relentless pressure from a much improved Korean outfit.
Brisbane persisted and the home side were rewarded for their urgency fifteen minutes later, albeit from a most unlikely candidate.
Former Fury player and current Roar left back Shane Stefanutto scored his very first goal in orange colours, and just his third for his career, with an attempted cross that had enough side spin to sneak into the net, much to the surprise of goalkeeper Seunggyu and even Stefanutto himself.
After the break, with the scores level and the game there for the taking, both teams were showing their intent to win stepping it up a notch to produce highly entertaining, end-to-end football.
Tensions on the pitch increased, with Ivan Franjic and Besart Berisha in particular growing increasingly frustrated with Ulsan players diving, feigning injury and wasting time. Berisha even earnt a yellow card before time-on in the second half for mouthing off at his opponents huddling before kick-off.
At one point, while referee Torki Mohsen checked an Ulsan player with cramp, behind the Iranian’s back a push and shove erupted between opposing players, with the Bahraini international Adnan stepping in to prevent the situation from escalating.
Unfortunately Adnan would leave an undesirable mark on the game, not from a brilliant free kick or leaping header, but for a clumsy challenge in the box that gave Ulsan the golden opportunity to take the lead from the spot kick.
Captain Taewhi stepped up and converted the penalty with ease, sending Michael Theoklitos the wrong way in the 73rd minute to give the Koreans a 2-1 lead, and ultimately, victory.
There was a flurry of opportunities for Brisbane in the final ten minutes but the Roar just couldn’t find another equaliser; once again in the ACL falling disappointingly short in a game they could well have won.
Within Group F, Ulsan Hyundai and FC Tokyo are now far ahead on eight points, while Brisbane Roar sit just above Beijing Guoan on goal difference with each having just two points.
Only two matches are left to be played by each team in the group stage. Brisbane will next face FC Tokyo in Japan on May 2 and Beijing in China on May 16.
Though it is still mathematically possible for Brisbane to make the top two, it is very unlikely they will be able to make up the point and goal deficit.
It may be a deflating result, but rest assured, as Roar coach Ange Postecoglou confirmed post-match, last night was no stumbling block on the road to Sunday’s Hyundai A-League grand final.
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April 18th 2012 @ 6:03am
Whites said | April 18th 2012 @ 6:03am | Report comment
Football can a frustrating game when you have poor refereeing. Adnan clearly got the ball.
April 18th 2012 @ 9:23am
philipcoates said | April 18th 2012 @ 9:23am | Report comment
The ref could have issued a couple of yellow cards for dodgy tackles and he got a few corner kick/goal kick decisions screwed up but he had no real influence on the game. The penalty was a penalty every day of the week.
April 18th 2012 @ 10:07am
The Cattery said | April 18th 2012 @ 10:07am | Report comment
I have to agree with phillip, you have to give that a pen, to put your leg across your opponent to get the ball shows very poor tackling technique, not too sure what he was thinking to be honest, to try something like that in the box, with the ball running away from goal, makes it easy for the ref to make the call
April 18th 2012 @ 11:18pm
j binnie said | April 18th 2012 @ 11:18pm | Report comment
Cattery, Adnan did not tackle his opponent. In coaching terms a “tackle” occurs when two opponents meet with the ball between them and at the point of contact one player has the sense to “flick” the ball, and in doing so, wins possession of the ball.
In this case the winger tried step overs and feints in an attempt to get Adnan off balance and nearly succeeded but the tall man poked a leg out,connected with the ball and sent it towards Smith at right angles to the wingers running direction.Inevitably,with the ball lost,the winger proceeded to trip over the leg that had sent the ball away from his feet.
The base question on the total move is – Did Adnan intentionally set out to trip the winger and in doing so stop him in an illegal manner. IMO he did not, he played at the ball,connected, and in doing so robbed the winger of possession.
With the benefits of hind sight and instant replays the whole movement can be split into milli-seconds and there is no doubt that Adnan connected with the ball taking it away from the attackers path,not really a tackle as described but in fact ball interception, which is a totally different thing in football.So you see it doesn’t matter if the attacker trips over the leg that has robbed him of the ball it is the fact that the attacker is no longer in control of that ball that is the crux of the matter.jb
April 18th 2012 @ 11:34pm
The Cattery said | April 18th 2012 @ 11:34pm | Report comment
jb
that’s precisely the problem, as you say, he “poked” a leg out, pretty much across the legs of his opponent, and perhaps got a toenail to the ball, but to poke your leg out inside the box is always a risky proposition
April 19th 2012 @ 12:05am
j binnie said | April 19th 2012 @ 12:05am | Report comment
Yes cattery,it is a risky proposition,no doubt, especially if you DON’T connect with the ball but,—Adnan DID,not with a toenail, but with his boot, for the ball had almost reached Smith when the ref gave the penalty.
The standard of refereeing in this game left a lot to be desired. It was evident from the first whistle that Broich was a marked man and didn’t they mark him ,I lost count of the time he was brought down. Punishment dished out? To the consistent foulers,nil. To Berisha for telling him,the ref, to hurry the opponents along after half time???????A yellow card..Not an excuse just an observation jb.
April 19th 2012 @ 1:27pm
Nathan of Perth said | April 19th 2012 @ 1:27pm | Report comment
Important to remember intention means nothing. According to the Magic Book, only deliberately kick to keeper and deliberately handling the ball infringements rely on interpreting intentions and this ain’t one.
April 20th 2012 @ 8:20am
j binnie said | April 20th 2012 @ 8:20am | Report comment
Nathan- Don’t quite follow your interpretation of your “magic book”. I would have thought that a deliberate pass back (by the foot) to the goalkeeper and, deliberately handling of the ball ( reaching up,out,or down to stop it’s progress) are offences that would require NO interpretation, after all, they are clear cut offences.
I used the word “intentionally”,not with the rule book in mind but a given situation on a field. I’ll try again using mini – movement analysis.. The attacker ,after jinking and feinting, attempts to pass the defender by pushing the ball past the defenders left leg. The defender pokes out his leg and connects with the ball sending it away at right angles to the path the attacker is trying to take.At this point the attacker has lost control of the ball for it is no longer within reach. However, because of the attackers forward momentum ,he trips over the outstretched leg that has taken possession away from him.
To me my friend, that,as described, is not a penalty kick but as I have just analysed ,and interpreted it, differently from the referee,the subject becomes debatable. Hence the simple question about “intent” in the actions of the defender, “did he intend to trip the player in an effort to stop that attacker’s progress,or ,did he rob that player of possession in a legal manner”. IMO – the answer is the latter,- no penalty. jb
April 19th 2012 @ 1:25pm
Nathan of Perth said | April 19th 2012 @ 1:25pm | Report comment
From what I saw on the highlights, that penalty was there, it really wasn’t even controversial.
April 18th 2012 @ 7:55am
Bondy said | April 18th 2012 @ 7:55am | Report comment
It was a good second half the quality of football was great ,goal scoring opportunities, end to end, shots from long range.In a very close game Brisbane colud well have won the match if the penalty wasnt awarded, the roar hit the crossbar numerous times in the last 15 minutes,unfortunate for the roar but a quality game of football .
April 18th 2012 @ 8:28am
striker said | April 18th 2012 @ 8:28am | Report comment
I thought it was a great game last night, Adnan for me had a shocker every ball he passed was lost.
April 18th 2012 @ 11:52pm
j binnie said | April 18th 2012 @ 11:52pm | Report comment
Striker – A pass can be “bad” for various reasons, the ball being mis-directed to an opponent is the main one,but there is a subtle difference when the player for whom the pass is intended stands and waits for the ball to reach him. At the level of football we are now watching in the HAL and ACL that can be a fatal error and it was evident in this game when Nichols allowed himself to be caught flat footed waiting for Adnan’s pass to reach him.
Now to your statement. If you think Adnan’s passing was bad last night I would advise you to learn how to “chart” a players passing in order to test his accuracy.Write down the names of all the players and put a tick next to their name every time they send a ball to an opponent or send it out of play.(bad passing). You may get a surprise when you learn that many Roar players in this game were every bit as bad ,if not worse, than Adnan. And that factor my friend is where the Roar’s game is at present breaking down for Ange’s philosophy is based on possession, ie based on fast accurate movement of the ball to get it behind a defending team as quickly and as often as possible.Murdocca played one outstanding pass in the whole game,it was quick,perfectly placed and weighted, and —Roar scored.There were not too many passes like that on the night,????? jb
April 18th 2012 @ 8:30am
Futbanous said | April 18th 2012 @ 8:30am | Report comment
Entertaining game,especially second half.
Adnan IMO caused both goals,second from the obvious penalty ,but first from a lazy pass to Nichols, Sure Mitch was a tad slow to react himself but the pass for me did it.
Bit of an enigma this lad,great passing at times but often more laid back than the proverbial “Lizard on a rock”.
Overall though Ulsan were a step ahead for me, their decision making & anticipation in particular was quicker than the Roars.
This is no doubt due to the superior technique of their players & all teams in the K-League being able to control the ball quickly & therefore move the ball faster than the A-League.
Roars passes were intercepted on numerous occassions ,when a promising move was on.
Ange knows the score heres what he said after the match.
don’t know if I’m disappointed,” said Brisbane coach Ange Postecoglou.
“We know where we’re at and we wanted to play this tournament in a certain kind of way and I think we have in the last three games.
“We’re not quite there yet, in terms of real quality, we’re not quite there and there’s no shame in saying that and that’s how we want to be and how we want to improve”
April 18th 2012 @ 9:53am
j binnie said | April 18th 2012 @ 9:53am | Report comment
Futbanous – A couple of questions about your observation for I think inadvertently maybe you touched on an inherent Roar problem.
(1) Adnan’s pass to Nichols,straight to Mitch’s foot. Fault- Mitch stood waiting for the pass reaching him and,at this level, allowing his opponent ,not only to close him down but to get him to where,when Mitch tried to turn and run, he was able to dispossess Mitch ,move forward, and hit his goal.
(2) The penalty. Adnan, caught man on man in a dangerous area, sticks a foot in and touches the ball towards Smith. The attacker,now out of play, falls (or throws himself) over Adnan’s outstretched leg. A penalty??? I.M.O a very much tongue in the cheek decision.
That inherent Roar problem???? Lack of movement in midfield, not running, but movement designed to create spaces where the ball can be played forward into dangerous areas.Next time you watch Roar playing count the number of times midfielders,who are supposed to create transition from back to front, receive the ball from back line players and immediately pass it backwards.Creation of opportunity???,no, simply giving their opponents more time to get “goalside” of the ball and re-organise.
Did you notice Brioch castigate Murdocca in the first half for the poor service he was getting? Is it any wonder Berisha is suffering?,he runs himself into the ground every week surrounded by at least 3 players, trying to create spaces for midfielders who should be coming forward when the ball is up with him but only on a few occasions does such support show, Back to that word ,movement.
Ange’s philosophy is great,built upon possession and movement of the ball at speed to get behind defenders. However this game is totally dependent on 3 essentials in players,movement,first touch,and high success ratio in passing. This Roar midfield at the moment is not of a sufficiently high standard in these 3 areas to make an impression at this level.Still good enough for HAL no doubt, but Asia??????. Time will tell if the lessons have been learned. jb
April 18th 2012 @ 12:22pm
Futbanous said | April 18th 2012 @ 12:22pm | Report comment
Have to agree unfortunately jb. As a fan it irks me somewhat to see this from my view,non movement forward.,the pass back then across then the other teams regrouped as you mention.
It irks me even more because the reality is to step up to the movement level you talk about & Ange must desire you need a better quality of player & far greater ball skills than many of the Roar players possess & I include Mitch in that.
As we have a salary cap & our youth players still arent up to it it seems a way off.
I remember Stanley Matthews being asked what was his secret his answer “Skill at speed”.
He meant at the time skill on the ball with speed. In todays modern football that also means movement off the ball as well as on it.
Berisha reminds me of a kid I used to coach. Called him the pin ball wizard. He could run all day at speed,movement galore annoyed the hell out of other kids, but he had no ball skills whatsoever. Difference is Berisha has ball skills & 90% of his movement is wasted IMO.
HIs job is to score goals not chase the ball like a lunatic.
Craig Foster talked about this(passing back across) after the FC Tokyo match so I suppose it correalates what you mention.
Calls it horizontal rather than vertical play. For me in simplistic terms means lack of penetration.
See if I can find the segment from TWG.
April 18th 2012 @ 12:30pm
Futbanous said | April 18th 2012 @ 12:30pm | Report comment
j binnie
Here it is if you havent seen it & have time,just scroll down the page a bit. Talks about lateral rather than horizontal,then vertical:-
http://www.behindthegoals.net/2012/03/asian-champions-league-reflections.html
April 18th 2012 @ 11:33pm
j binnie said | April 18th 2012 @ 11:33pm | Report comment
Futbanous I hope you watched the 5-0 demolition job done on CCM last night ,for their opponents showed all over the field exactly what we have been talking about,movement into space, creating options for the ball carrier,fast ,crisp,one touch passing, with the emphasis most of the time on getting the team moving forward. Ok, they had a few “foreigners” playing in their team who were the team’s outstanding players but no more so than Broich,Henrique, and Berisha can be for Roar if we can get the “local” content of the Roar team to play their possession football the way CCM’s opponents did last night.Believe me I don’t think that’s as far away as one could imagine, they have shown it in flashes before but not in a consistent manner. jb
April 19th 2012 @ 12:47pm
Futbanous said | April 19th 2012 @ 12:47pm | Report comment
j binnie
Unfortunately not, but watched the Adelaide game.
Your observations sound very much as though they could have been equally applied to Adelaide vs Gamba Osaka in the 2008 ACL final.
I remember thinking along those lines.
Hope your right about the Roar.
My gut feeling is that were a few quality players short of making the flashes become the norm.
April 18th 2012 @ 8:56am
Futbanous said | April 18th 2012 @ 8:56am | Report comment
Also just to add the Koreans at the match were not organised like the FC Tokyo fans previously who were more like European fans.
Vocal at times but not so much the chanting ,singing etc.
Also just on the ACL I wonder if it would be better at this stage of its development if it was based more like a cup competition with a a home & away format to decide a winner each round.
I say that because many of the leagues in Asia are still developing leagues including our own.
The present format is for me me one that can be used when football Leagues are developed as were the Leagues in Europe when European competition started.
Just checked on Wiki to see if what I thought was correct:-
Prior to 1992, the tournament was officially called the “European Champion Clubs’ Cup”, but was usually referred to simply as the “European Cup”.[1] The competition was initially a straight knockout competition open only to the champion club of each country.[1] During the 1990s the tournament began to be expanded, incorporating a round-robin group phase and more teams.[1] Europe’s strongest national leagues now provide up to four teams each for the competition.”
Now if Europe didnt think that it could expand beyond a knockout comp until 1992 ,it begs the question why does Asia think it can when in reality the majority of its leagues are not yet at the stage of development that the European leagues were when the first European comp started in the 1950′s.
Could save money also due to reduced cost of travel etc & therefore open the possibility of upping the prize money ,which lets face it for a continent of 3.6 billion its poor to say the least.
April 18th 2012 @ 9:19am
nordster said | April 18th 2012 @ 9:19am | Report comment
interesting idea on groups vs a full knockout cup. I think the AFC Cup would work great like this, could involve more teams potentially from Australia even. If we keep 2.5 for ACL have 1.5 spots from the top leagues.
i’d miss the away trip selection if they got rid of groups for ACL, you get a choice of Japan, Korea, China guaranteed. Next year for me.
And the appeal of Asia qualification for the players and fans is having those six games minimum … makes it a big deal being in there. I guess it is ahead of its time though compared to how other continental cups have developed.
April 18th 2012 @ 9:20am
Qantas supports Australian Football said | April 18th 2012 @ 9:20am | Report comment
I like it as it is—the group stage gives you more football. The only thing that gets in way is our own local final playoff series. I’m hoping that the FFA go back to a 4 team playoff series and have it done and dusted as soon as possible. So managers can focus on the ACL and embrace it a lot more to lift our standard to match the J&K-leagues teams. Let’s face it that is where the real football lies in the ACL. I have enjoyed what I’ve seen so far—it’s a much higher standard than the HAL.. Now looking forward to the AU match tonight at Hindmash..
April 18th 2012 @ 9:41am
philipcoates said | April 18th 2012 @ 9:41am | Report comment
I think something needs to be done to stop the clash between A-League finals and ACL. A-League teams playing in Asia are at an unfair disadvantage over A-League clubs just playing in the finals, and A-League clubs playing in the finals must find it more difficult focusing on ACL compared with say playing ACL games out of season or during the regular season. I’m sure that with better co-ordination and compromise with the AFC the clubs could be able to focus on the finals without a secondary comp at the same time. We don’t have the squad depth to play in a domestic finals series (with significant travel) and a championship (with international travel) simultaneously.
April 18th 2012 @ 10:00am
nordster said | April 18th 2012 @ 10:00am | Report comment
ask the players and coaches if they think ACL is secondary to a domestic cup. Even if not (always) admitted to media. Over time, more and more fans are coming around to this thinking.
It might also be easier to accommodate the clash at our end also than expect AFC to “compromise”.
April 19th 2012 @ 12:13pm
PeterK said | April 19th 2012 @ 12:13pm | Report comment
nordster, I think you’re right that it’s “easier to accommodate the clash at our end”. Before our finals series we already know the dates of the ACL matches. Our own finals matches surely could be fitted better into the ACL schedule, rather than the reverse, even bearing in mind the need to satisfy TV scheduling requirements. I can’t see a problem with a week (or two) free of our own comps while the ACL matches take place
I don’t agree with some that our clubs would be better off if there was no domestic comp while they were involved in Asia. If that were the case then we’d be complaining that our clubs aren’t getting match practice at home in between their ACL fixtures.
April 18th 2012 @ 11:11am
Qantas supports Australian Football said | April 18th 2012 @ 11:11am | Report comment
Phil—I can’t see why we have to have such a long drawn out home finals series. It’s out dated and should be culled back to four teams and over in 3 weeks. ACL is the one that we need to concentrate on with more and more money being sunked into the ACL with sponsorship from Asia.. Watch interest grow again when AU look like getting thru the group stage and hopefully the CCM will join them too. It’s a pity that the Roar look like going out this time. Their fans last night really enjoyed the experience. I don’t know how many were there ? but the noise and support they gave was quite good…
April 18th 2012 @ 9:28am
Fussball ist unser leben said | April 18th 2012 @ 9:28am | Report comment
Futbanous
I fully agree the ACL should be a knock-out competition – either random draw or seeded draw – during this early stage. The Group Stage is too long & too expensive.
The knock-out competition will create more tension – for players & fans – which means every game is taken seriously.
Even the UCL is much more exciting when the knock-out stages begin. The only reason UEFA changed to a Group format was to create more games & more revenue from TV broadcast rights.
April 18th 2012 @ 12:28pm
Bondy said | April 18th 2012 @ 12:28pm | Report comment
I notice Gorman wanting to revamp the HAL final series (http://www.smh.com.au/sport/football/ffa-to-shrink-finals-series-in-revamp-20120417-1x5m2.html) . I agree .
April 18th 2012 @ 9:57am
AndyRoo said | April 18th 2012 @ 9:57am | Report comment
I think the Korean fans would have been spread out because most of them would have been Koreans already living in Australia rather than specifically Ulsan fans.
Ulsan doesn’t have a lot of support domestically with average crowds around 3k this year.
They have one of their best teams ever with a couple of national team players so it would have been an attractive fixture for general Korean football fans.
April 18th 2012 @ 10:25am
Titus said | April 18th 2012 @ 10:25am | Report comment
I could hear a lot of teenage girl screams when Ulsan went forward.
April 19th 2012 @ 12:06pm
PeterK said | April 19th 2012 @ 12:06pm | Report comment
Futbanous, I have the feeling that in Europe there used to be two club competitions — a KO comp for winners of the various KO cups, and a round-robin for the various premiers of the leagues.
Whether that’s so or not, it could be a thought for Aia: two separate comps. But I’m not too sure what happens if the same club wins the premiership and the championship — maybe it’s not a problem? It’d be a shame though to not have three clubs in Asia as we have this year.
April 19th 2012 @ 12:51pm
Futbanous said | April 19th 2012 @ 12:51pm | Report comment
PeterK
Correct the other was the European Cup winners Cup.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UEFA_Cup_Winners'_Cup
April 19th 2012 @ 12:54pm
Futbanous said | April 19th 2012 @ 12:54pm | Report comment
Both were knockout competitions though until the nineties.
April 19th 2012 @ 1:09pm
Fussball ist unser leben said | April 19th 2012 @ 1:09pm | Report comment
PeterK
There used to be 3 Euro competitions in the 70s, 80s & some of the 90s.
1. European Champion Clubs’ Cup (European Cup)
* only open to champions of UEFA leagues
* 2 leg knock-out competition until Semi-Final stage (home & away)
* 1 Grand Finale at pre-determined venue
2. UEFA Cup (also known as Inter-Cities Fairs Cup)
* from memory was open to runners-up in UEFA leagues
* 2 leg knock-out competition
* the Grand Finale was also 2-leg (home & away) I recall Ipswich Town winning in 1981 under Bobby Robson
3. Cup Winners Cup
* open to the cup winners in UEFA leagues
* 2 leg knock-out competition until Semi-Final stage (home & away)
* 1 Grand Finale at pre-determined venue
April 18th 2012 @ 9:28am
Titus said | April 18th 2012 @ 9:28am | Report comment
I love the ACL, it is so exciting to think how much room this game has to grow. I think when the Chinese start winning things and the Japanese start taking it serious this will become huge. Imagine Anelka, Drogba playing competitive club matches against HAL teams.
Brisbane may not have got the result but they played good football and showed that Aussie teams can match it in terms of style and technique, I think they just lacked a little bit of quality where it counts but this has been a problem for them in the HAL as well.
April 18th 2012 @ 9:45am
philipcoates said | April 18th 2012 @ 9:45am | Report comment
Brisbane have played as well as, often much better than, any team so far (ex Tokyo) but the missing ingredient is the finishing. It seems Asian clubs just have that edge when it comes to scoring and A-League clubs just aren’t as deadly when they get a chance. On reflection, this has been the case in prior years also but watching Bris in recent games has just reinforced the point once more.
April 18th 2012 @ 10:28am
Titus said | April 18th 2012 @ 10:28am | Report comment
Agree Phil, but this is what clubs will pay the big bucks for making it hard for us to compete.
Nothing to stop us from developing this though and then selling that on for big bucks.
April 18th 2012 @ 9:46am
Australian Rules said | April 18th 2012 @ 9:46am | Report comment
I’ve heard Adelaide have accepted a sponsorship from Clive Palmer’s “Football of Australia” body and will wear his logo across their shirt for their ACL games…can anyone confirm?
April 18th 2012 @ 9:57am
Fussball ist unser leben said | April 18th 2012 @ 9:57am | Report comment
The ACL is organised by the AFC – the FFA has no jurisdiction.
The AFC is pedantic with its vetting of signage (e.g. every sign at every stadium has to be scrubbed if it is not AFC compliant), so, if the alleged AUFC shirt sponsorship gets AFC approval, there will be no issue.
April 18th 2012 @ 12:05pm
Titus said | April 18th 2012 @ 12:05pm | Report comment
AFC have knocked it on the head according to SBS.
April 18th 2012 @ 10:09am
The Cattery said | April 18th 2012 @ 10:09am | Report comment
As I said in the live call, it’s unfortunate that the Roar has to play a crucial ACL game in the lead up to the play-off for the championship, very hard to get players to focus on the here and now when something so valuable is only 4 days away, so I’m sympathetic to Ange and the boys.
April 18th 2012 @ 10:28am
The Cattery said | April 18th 2012 @ 10:28am | Report comment
Kwak had a cracking game last night.
April 18th 2012 @ 12:24pm
Bondy said | April 18th 2012 @ 12:24pm | Report comment
I agree Kwak was very crisp last night .
April 18th 2012 @ 11:52am
Graham White said | April 18th 2012 @ 11:52am | Report comment
we need to improve by 5% in all areas in every game really. Some of those losses could have been draws and draws could have been wins. But we are still a young league. We’ll also have enough pride to beat asian teams without resorting to diving. 10 000 people were there last night to watch football. There is a great theater down the road if they want to watch acting!