Will England lose all five games in South Africa?
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No, that’s not a typo. It was announced yesterday that England, in addition to their three Tests, will play two midweek games when their rugby team tours the Republic in June.
Understandably, quite a few South African pundits see England being whitewashed 5-0. So do many rugby fans in Australia and NZ. Surprisingly, there are Chariot supporters in England who fear the same result.
But all is not gloom and doom for the All Whites. A fast survey among some of the more thoughtful rugby men and women in England, supplied me by overseas connections, feel that a 4-1 Boks or even a 3-2 Boks result is more likely.
This is based on the consenual idea that the Boks will triumph in the first Test, June 9, in Durban, with England not long off the plane and still gaping at the surf.
Then follows a midweek game against the Southern South African Babaas at GWK Park (Hoffe Park) in Kimberly, home of the Griquas, which at 4000 feet above sea level is 4000 feet higher than Twickenham.
The second Test follows three days later at Coke Park, Johannesburg (5700 feet). Then, three days later, it’s the Northern Babaas at Potchefstroom, about 120 clicks south-east of Joburg. Finally, it’s back to sea level for the third Test four days later at Port Elizabeth.
Not only a very hard workout for English lungs, but with a team that’s still building, a tough ask – perhaps impossible – for anything more than two mid-week wins.
Still, win, lose or draw, it’s great to see a squad touring a country again. All good luck, England. You too, Boks, not that you’ll need much.
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April 19th 2012 @ 1:55am
kingplaymaker said | April 19th 2012 @ 1:55am | Report comment
Yes 5-0 looks likely, especially if Owen Farrell continues at the helm and Brad Barritt lumbers along in the midfield. But if they lose 5-0 they will doubtless still be ‘building’ and ‘making progress’.
April 19th 2012 @ 2:04am
Johnno said | April 19th 2012 @ 2:04am | Report comment
KPM there is a strong chance on that i am confident of that happening. Stuart Lancaster’s appointment was for me an appointment in populism, rather than being sensible and clammy thinking about it.
World cup in 2015 , and I don’t think the English rugby union had the guts to appoint a foreign coach in a home world cup.
Nick Mallett would of been better option for mind.
And KPM Adleiade stuff i agree about to. 20,00 private school kids, more would play with a super team, plus the state schools. big turn out 20,000 and that was just for 7evens rugby, and 15 a side is the big 1.
Ignoring 1.7 million people in SOuth Australia, not to mention 2.5 million in greater western sydney, , when Canberra has a team well i am lost for words KPM.
April 19th 2012 @ 2:15am
kingplaymaker said | April 19th 2012 @ 2:15am | Report comment
Johnno Lancaster has never given proof of being more than solid but doesn’t appear to be a star coach and so it would be suprising if he can turn England into a top drawer team. The RFU could have had anyone so it’s bizarre they chose him.
Agree on Adelaide of course, sorry was away from the computer for much of that debate. What’s amazing is how exaggeratedly cautious, almost fearful most Australians seem to be about what is really quite straightforward and safe expansion. If Canberra with 300,000 can get 14,000 fans then I’m sure Adelaide’s 1.7 million can. It’s this fearfulness and belief that everything will go wrong that holds back rugby in Australia.
April 19th 2012 @ 2:30am
Ben S said | April 19th 2012 @ 2:30am | Report comment
How can you judge a man on 5 games? Isn’t that overtly cautious?
April 19th 2012 @ 2:40am
Johnno said | April 19th 2012 @ 2:40am | Report comment
I know KPM very true. ANd i think like thi with super rugby expansion teams. RUgby is a global sport and who knows about super rugby future anyway. And if they fail in Adleaide and a private backer pulls out, well what are the consequences have they lost.
Nothing.
But by ignoring places like Adelaide,west sydney, Gold Coast, what are the consequences
Nothing good.
Becoz super rugby is very flexible and mobile , a team can pick up and go and start fresh if they model it right.
Private owner or owners, flexible salary cap e.g the rebels, flexible import rule.
RUgby is global sport and can easily poach or find 30 full time players from around the world, pacific island players, a few up and comers form nations in ARGENTINA , usa eg Todd clever as one example when he had a good stint at the lions, and some hungry candaians to, always a few good kwis, some talented young aussies busting for a chance, who would otherwise go to toyota cup NRL
Like some of those baby brumbies, and some rugby league eplayers wanting a fresh start or the attraction of a global sport.
And hello you have a super rugby team. Not that hard KPM I worked that out in 5 minutes.
not to mention the higher tv ratings from big populations, the increase in sports betting markets, merchandise,.
April 19th 2012 @ 3:30am
kingplaymaker said | April 19th 2012 @ 3:30am | Report comment
Johnno it’s a shame and with 8 teams rugby would be back in real contention! Every major city except Newcastle would have a team and that could be added in time as could the third Sydney team. But there’s so much fear in Australian rugby: the expansion teams all have good crowds at the moment even small Canberra!
April 19th 2012 @ 7:36am
Justin said | April 19th 2012 @ 7:36am | Report comment
Can you blokes keep on track. What the h@ll has Adelaide and Canberra got to do with this article?
April 19th 2012 @ 2:01am
Ben S said | April 19th 2012 @ 2:01am | Report comment
I’ve been flitting through the Mark Keohane website and I found surprisingly few fans who thought England would lose all 5, in fact there were quite a few voicing concerns that SA would concede a Test or two due to the potential selections of Meyer.
Likewise, across various English rugby blogs I haven’t found one person who predicts a 5-0 loss.
Further, although I wouldn’t ever be comfortable suggesting a ‘general consesus’ for thousands of people, I’m of the perception that the one Test England are considered able to win is the first Test at sea level due to the restraints of Super Rugby.
April 19th 2012 @ 9:00am
Brett McKay said | April 19th 2012 @ 9:00am | Report comment
Ben, I think I suggested the same to you back a while (possibly post-6Ns) that Durban seemed the most likely venue for an England win, and I still think that’s the case now. England will be right up for it straight off the plane, and at sea level, while it will be interesting to see who is available for the Boks – Jean de Villiers, for eg, might be not long back from his current injury come June, and Bismarck du Plessis is out currently, too.
Of course, once altitude becomes a factor…
April 19th 2012 @ 9:55am
Ben S said | April 19th 2012 @ 9:55am | Report comment
Altitude is the game changer, Brett. As always… On the positive side, I think it will be a good learning curve for some young players, just like various players experienced under Woodward in 2000 in SA. Such a tough away day. It will be good to get involved now in the first year of a four year cycle.
It looks like JdV is out, but IMO Frans Steyn (when on form) is already more accomplished. Fourie has ruled himself out today, but (shock horror) I think that will be a good thing for the Boks, especially over the longer-term as his passing game really stunted the involvement of the back three IMO. I’ve noticed calls for Du Preez and Matfield to return, but who knows? Juandre Kruger has probably played against most of the England pack, so I don’t see the point in returning Matfield to the fold. I know Meyer is considered a conservative coach and he’s desperate to get his side off to a good win, but I genuinely think it would make more sense to start blooding now. Unlike NZ SA have lost a lot of experience, so why not start now rather than bringing back Danie Rossouw and Matfield?
April 19th 2012 @ 10:26am
Brett McKay said | April 19th 2012 @ 10:26am | Report comment
Rossouw is at least still playing!! No doubt the Matfield rumours are on the back of Bekker’s injury, and I think overlooking the likes of Hougaard and even Charl McLeod for du Preez would be a backward step. Ruan Pinnaar remains in the mix, I’m sure.
It will be interesting to see out England prepare for the last two Tests up on the veldt – I note this week that Jake White has taken the Brumbies straight up there, ignoring the accepted Australian practice of preparing at sea level and heading up the day before. White will keep his team up there the whole time..
April 19th 2012 @ 10:52am
Colin N said | April 19th 2012 @ 10:52am | Report comment
So much for South African depth if they feel they have to bring back Matfield.
Sorry, couldn’t resist.
April 19th 2012 @ 11:33am
Brett McKay said | April 19th 2012 @ 11:33am | Report comment
it’s a fair point, Colin. I thought it was a pisstake when I first heard it, but it’s carried on far to long now to be a joke…
April 19th 2012 @ 1:32pm
Suzy Poison said | April 19th 2012 @ 1:32pm | Report comment
Agree with everything you have said Ben. Talk of Matfiled’s return is ridiculous. He has been out the game for too long. I am happy if he helps the Boks coaching at lineouts, but no more. I personally doubt he will play, as Bekker’s injury is not serious, he could have played this weekend. Juandre Kruger and two new Stormers second rowers are all playing well, anyway. Maybe Meyer is being supremely cautious, and I hope so. But now is the time to be bold and blood some youngsters. We really don’t want to make the same mistake P Divvy did. Dragging a fat old number two around the field (Sorry John Smit, but you should have retired in 2009)
Also talk of 5-0 is complete rubbish too. Firstly the players in the mid-week games are A Grade Currie Cup players. No player from any of the Super 15 squads will be selected. I expect an England A team to run up large scores against this rag tag mob. Secondly, Meyer will have little time to prepare his team. By contrast, Lancaster and England have had a whole Six Nations together. I think the Six Nations showed England are on an upward curve of improvement. Like you, and Brett, I think the Boks will be very vulnerable at sea level. In fact I would be surprised if England lost the first test, in Durban.
However, I would really hope the Boks can fight back a win in the second test, and really start to gel, by the third. Therefore I am predicting either a 3-2 result to England, (Boks to win last two tests) Or it could be 4-1 to England, if England win the second test as well.
April 19th 2012 @ 6:33pm
mace 22 said | April 19th 2012 @ 6:33pm | Report comment
Agree about matfield not returning if he did put his hand up doubt it if he’d be picked anyway. South africa produces locks like new zealand produces open sides, the next one is usually better than the last. But disagree about the midweek games, what made touring south africa hard were the midweek games. Even with no springboks or super 15 players in the teams I think they will still be hard to beat. Also trying to judge a northern team on thier six nations form is a bit like pl;aying russian roulette, you might hit the bullet then again it might be a empty chamber. By the way stay out of the kitchen.
April 19th 2012 @ 1:44pm
Suzy Poison said | April 19th 2012 @ 1:44pm | Report comment
This is the new look Bok team, I think Meyer will pick.
I would rather see Goosen start, but I think Meyer has already shown to favour experience.
Only four uncapped players, folks talk of a large exodus of Bok players, but there is still a core of experienced players around. Ben what is your call on the England 22? What do the roarers think of this team?
15. Patrick Lambie
14. Bjon Basson
13. Juan De Jong
12. Frans Steyn
11. Bryan Habana
10. Morne Steyn
9. Francois Hougaard
8. Pierre Spies (C)
7. Williem Alberts
6. Heinrich Brussow
5. Andries Bekker
4. Juandre Kruger (uncapped)
3. Beast
2. Bismark Du Plessis
1. Jannie du Plessis
Coach: Heneyke Meyer
Reserves:
Werner Kruger (uncapped)
Chilliboy Rapele
Eben Etzebeth (uncapped)
Schalk Burger
Fourie Du Preez
Johan Goosen (uncapped)
JP Pietersen
April 19th 2012 @ 2:55pm
stuff happens said | April 19th 2012 @ 2:55pm | Report comment
This is a big tour for the ‘Boks as they were badly let down by their coaching group prior to the RWC & as you say the ridiculous selection of John Smit.So the real challenge for the new coaching group is once again how to best utilise the wide range of talent in SA. As we know this is not easy, as the AB’s have found in the past.
I agree with you & hope Meyer goes for it & basically ditches the almost past it & builds for 2015.
I would suggest Joe Pietersen at full back – the best I’ve seen this season.I also really like Elstadt & Kolisi at the Stormers, Coetzee at the Sharks & Jacques Potgeiter at the Bulls. Alberts has become more lumbering and is not the player he was at the moment.I agree with you about Goosen & the choice between him , Lambie & Steyn will be a big coaching challenge.Spies as captain? Is he playing well enough? Against the Poms Vermuelen may be better .
Incidentally the Stormers /Bulls match a few weeks ago was one of the most intense Super games I’ve seen.
April 19th 2012 @ 4:48pm
Suzy Poison said | April 19th 2012 @ 4:48pm | Report comment
Agree about Alberts, Coetzee from the Sharks is having a damn good first season, as is Kolisi. Captain was a tough decision,I was a bit lost? Normally I would pick Schalk, but have him off the bench, as he is still injured.
Also on form Pietersen is a better bet, so that’s good call. Lambie, however, has always played his heart out for the Boks.
Frans Styen is heading back to Durban. Not sure if it’s a done deal, so he may not play against England.
Either way, we will get to see him and Lambie play in the same team later this year.
Not sure Tubby, Chilliboy, now that he is first choice at the Bulls is getting stuck in. I would have Straus on the bench, if Bismark is still injured. In fact, have you ever heard Chilli-Boy speak? Now that I think about it, I might even make him Captain too?
How that for
April 19th 2012 @ 1:44pm
tubby said | April 19th 2012 @ 1:44pm | Report comment
whilst not great to have du plessis out, adriaan strauss is the form #2 in SA right now, hopefully he gets a shot to claim the boks spot.
April 19th 2012 @ 12:23pm
steve.h said | April 19th 2012 @ 12:23pm | Report comment
If anyone is interested this is what meyer is currently up to:
http://www.sport24.co.za/Rugby/Springboks/Heyneke-Meyers-plans-set-in-action-20120417
http://www.rugby365.com/all_news/sa/news/2870704.htm
I dont think Meyer calling in Matfield is a question of depth but using players he knows to set up a tradition and winning culture. They will be short term contracts and expect the South African squad to be large. On other news Beast is set to start playing a couple weeks (there is light at the end of sharks very dark tunnel). Lastly there is not a chance England will loose all 5 games on tour that is absurd, But how good is it to have mid week games again. 2 – 1 boks
April 19th 2012 @ 5:51am
Jean Polet said | April 19th 2012 @ 5:51am | Report comment
I’ve been checking Brit sites too, Ben, and was surprised to find such gloomy predictions. Few were as depressed to suggest a 5-0 result, that projection is mainly from SA fans naturally. We French are convinced the SA sides won’t have much trouble as the South Africans play a much more rugged game of rugby than is played in France or England. The knock on the English team is still the same old, same old – a back unit that fails to fire. Yes, Flood has improved a lot lately, but the Bok fans tell me he’ll be on the menu for the SA backrows as Toby doesn’t have much heft and is not fast enough to get out of trouble. The midfield will have little penetration against the SA Barbarians and very, very little against the Boks test side which will have a killer defence. As for Meyer’s picks, here’s a list of players invited to two training sessions, one going on right now, that he’s using to gauge the level of players he won’t, with maybe a few exceptions, be picking for the tests. These names give everybody a good idea of just how strong the SA Babaas teams will be. BTW, IMO the Boks will definitely win the Durban test. They have a proud history in Durban and won’t want to see their record besmirched (is that the right word?).
Forwards: Coenie Oosthuizen, Caylib Oosthuizen, Pat Cilliers, CJ van der Linde, WP Nel, Adriaan Strauss, Bandise Maku, Callie Visagie, Izak van der Westhuizen, Davon Raubenheimer, Franco van der Merwe, Heinrich Brüssow, Derick Minnie, Pieter Labuschagne, Ashley Johnson, Juan Smith, Josh Strauss, Philip van der Walt.
Backs: Piet van Zyl, Michael Bondesio, Johan Goosen, Elton Jantjies, Butch James, Willie le Roux, Andries Strauss, Doppies La Grange, Robert Ebersohn, Alwyn Hollenbach, Lionel Mapoe, Jaco Taute, Hennie Daniller.
April 19th 2012 @ 10:03am
Ben S said | April 19th 2012 @ 10:03am | Report comment
It’s massively debatable that the South Africans play a ‘much more rugged’ game of rugby than is played in Europe seeing as whenever they tour the UK their forwards tend to be shown up. The last time they travelled to France their forwards were utterly demolished.
The English side isn’t the same old – prior to the WC the back three, and indeed the back unit, had excellent patches of form. I think the English back division was poor in the 6N, but I put that down to a) inexperience and b) bad selection. Look how such a young side took France apart in the 6N. It’s a young and growing side, and an experience French side had no answer.
Flood’s improvement is a media myth. He’s hardly changed at all. He’s always challenged the gainline, and he is arguably the best off-loading 10 in the world apart from Cruden. Every game where the English back division has fired over the past few seasons Flood has been at 10. It isn’t a coincidence. Even in the bad games, like against Ireland in Dublin two seasons ago, Flood constantly challenged, off-loaded and broke the gainline.
Tuliagi will have little penetration? Against whom?
Tom Croft hasn’t performed in SA? Ben Morgan doesn’t look a prospect? The only issue is at 7.
What Bok fans?
Why will SA have a killer defence? It will basically be a new side.
April 19th 2012 @ 9:47pm
Loftus said | April 19th 2012 @ 9:47pm | Report comment
The last time the French came to SA they were manhandled and embarressed by SA forwards.42-17.The last time SA,leaving half of their 1st team at home, played England at Twickenham, the SA pack destroyed England,21-11.
April 20th 2012 @ 12:23am
Ben S said | April 20th 2012 @ 12:23am | Report comment
‘The last time the French came to SA they were manhandled and embarressed by SA forwards.42-17.The last time SA,leaving half of their 1st team at home, played England at Twickenham, the SA pack destroyed England,21-11.’
And that same France side was then smashed by Argentina too. An awful French side doesn’t highlight the power of SA forward play.
Yes, the SA pack did very well against a lightweight England pack. Losing Flood and Croft within such a short space of time didn’t help however. Also, if you want to select random games then try not to forget the Scottish game where the SA pack was bullied.
South African forward play just isn’t intimidating, which is probably why Meyer wants to bring back Matfield and Rossouw.
April 20th 2012 @ 4:40pm
Jiggles said | April 20th 2012 @ 4:40pm | Report comment
South African forward play hasn’t been intimidating since 2009. The Wallabies have been continually bullying the Bok pack in recent years.
April 19th 2012 @ 9:57pm
steve.h said | April 19th 2012 @ 9:57pm | Report comment
Bens what are your views on what will happen?
England has copped a few hidings in the last few years and Tom Croft thus hasn’t really proved himself against South Africa. .
Regarding your question why South Africa will have a killer defence is because the top 3 South African teams in the Super Rugby have really good defence records (Except that Hurricanes blow out of the Sharks ) and for the first time the Springboks will have a dedicated defense coach.
All the probable players that will make the starting 15 have international caps so it won’t be basically a new side as you suggest.
I don’t at any time think this is going to be an easy series and the games will be generally close. I know Meyer is setting himself a 3 -0 whitewash, which will be extremely difficult and it will more than likely be 2 -1.
As posted earlier this is what Meyer is up to:
http://www.sport24.co.za/Rugby/Springboks/Heyneke-Meyers-plans-set-in-action-20120417
http://www.rugby365.com/all_news/sa/news/2870704.htm
April 20th 2012 @ 12:26am
Ben S said | April 20th 2012 @ 12:26am | Report comment
The past is irrelevant as a lot of the current England squad have never played the Boks. This is a brand new England side.
I’d say that Tom Croft proved himself on the Lions tour.
The Springbok defence has been pretty poor since 2009, and Super rugby is a different kettle of fish.
Meyer is doing his best to bring back old players, which speaks volumes about his confidence in the current crop of players. And just having a cap doesn’t mean the side will function as a unit, which is the key point. The side will have to pitch up on the day and win.
I’m not sure re: the result. There’s a lot of rugby to be played between now and then. Depends on injuries and squad selections. Both sides will have weakness IMO.
April 19th 2012 @ 7:31am
Riccardo said | April 19th 2012 @ 7:31am | Report comment
Yes.
April 19th 2012 @ 7:37am
Justin said | April 19th 2012 @ 7:37am | Report comment
Great to see some sort of “touring” come back.
April 19th 2012 @ 10:56am
Colin N said | April 19th 2012 @ 10:56am | Report comment
England did it in 2010 against Australia and I felt it was an excellent idea that didn’t quite work out as it should have.
This year, hopefully the young players that are included in the 40 genuinely push towards a place in the Autumn series.
April 19th 2012 @ 7:58am
Pot Hale said | April 19th 2012 @ 7:58am | Report comment
Interesting that the Saffas have put majority of the games at altitude.
I reckon 3-2 to England.
April 19th 2012 @ 10:50am
nickoldschool said | April 19th 2012 @ 10:50am | Report comment
Am with you on that, 3-2 or 2-3. Definitely dont want a SH whitewash in the June series against NH nations.
April 19th 2012 @ 12:35pm
steve.h said | April 19th 2012 @ 12:35pm | Report comment
You know a large majority of the South African population lives inland????why wouldn’t they put those matches inland. South Africa rotates venues unlike the UK teams. It is the turn of some of the coastal cities to get All black and Australian test so naturally the inland stadiums would get the lesser popular inbound tour. Plus since 2000 South Africa has played England 8 times in England and 4 times in South Africa so if we want to put it up in the highveld deal with it.
April 19th 2012 @ 8:13am
drama city said | April 19th 2012 @ 8:13am | Report comment
Lancaster is taking a 40 man squad to South Africa.
April 19th 2012 @ 8:30am
Demers said | April 19th 2012 @ 8:30am | Report comment
Lancaster will need a 50 man squad, but are there 50 players in England that can stay with the Saffers? Are there 40? 15?
Beats the hell out of me how anybody can feel England will do well.
In the last seven tests between the Boks and England the boks have won all seven including
two games in which the aggregate was 100 points to 16.
April 19th 2012 @ 10:03am
Ben S said | April 19th 2012 @ 10:03am | Report comment
Aaah…. history. That will help.
April 19th 2012 @ 10:11am
King of the Gorgonites said | April 19th 2012 @ 10:11am | Report comment
Rsa are overrated. England to dominate series.
April 19th 2012 @ 7:34pm
matthew said | April 19th 2012 @ 7:34pm | Report comment
Get back to me with the Wallabies have won 4/8 against the All Blacks over the last few years. Right now they couldnt buy a win with all the money in the world
April 20th 2012 @ 4:18am
Ben S said | April 20th 2012 @ 4:18am | Report comment
And where has beating the All Blacks got SA? Nowhere. Australia and SA are as erratic as each other except the Wallabies have easily had the edge over SA in recent seasons.
April 20th 2012 @ 7:06am
matthew said | April 20th 2012 @ 7:06am | Report comment
When was the last time a European team beat the AB’s? It’s fine that they’re happy chasing after “triple crowns” and “granslams” and all that other good stuff, but unit they can beat the AB’s regularly like the Bok’s do it isn’t rugbylike to belittle the latters accomplishments.
April 20th 2012 @ 7:35am
Ben S said | April 20th 2012 @ 7:35am | Report comment
Is that how you measure standards – beating NZ? Not finishing last on a regular basis in the 3N, being knocked out of the WC by a very average Australia side or never winning a European GS? That’s convenient.
April 20th 2012 @ 10:14am
matthew said | April 20th 2012 @ 10:14am | Report comment
The Boks have won a European GS, they have quite a rugby history if you’re interested and the travel factor plays against them in the Tri-Nations even though they’re marginally behind Aussie in the competetions history
April 20th 2012 @ 10:38am
matthew said | April 20th 2012 @ 10:38am | Report comment
They’ve won a few GS’s. It’s been a bit of an afterthought recently though and always tough to achieve at the end of a long season.
April 20th 2012 @ 11:03am
Ben S said | April 20th 2012 @ 11:03am | Report comment
Not an afterthought for NZ though. And you’d wonder how it’s an afterthought when by and large the best SA squads available have been selected, especially under PdV.
April 20th 2012 @ 10:03pm
Nicksa said | April 20th 2012 @ 10:03pm | Report comment
ben s
u truly have a hate for springbok rugby.
where are u from out of curiosity sake?
April 21st 2012 @ 10:25pm
Ben S said | April 21st 2012 @ 10:25pm | Report comment
That’s offensive.
April 20th 2012 @ 5:04pm
Moaman said | April 20th 2012 @ 5:04pm | Report comment
November 2002 at Twickenham.
April 20th 2012 @ 11:20pm
steve.h said | April 20th 2012 @ 11:20pm | Report comment
November 2008 at Twickenham
April 20th 2012 @ 4:32pm
steve.h said | April 20th 2012 @ 4:32pm | Report comment
2 world cup titles, 3 tri nation titles, series whitewash against NZ, 1 lions tour, only side to win in NZ the last 9-8 years. Yip nowhere that is for certain.
April 20th 2012 @ 4:54pm
Jiggles said | April 20th 2012 @ 4:54pm | Report comment
What has the 2009 Springbok team got to do with the team now? Not much really…
April 19th 2012 @ 10:43am
Dasher said | April 19th 2012 @ 10:43am | Report comment
Whatever the results may be, it’s good to see midweek exhibition games on the calendar. Hopefully it will catch back on worldwide.