Where to now for the Western Force?
By tj_adam, 24 Apr 2012 tj_adam is a Roar Rookie
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David Pocock (left) captain of the Western Force and coach Richard Graham. AAP Image/Paul Miller
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When Richard Graham signed a three year deal with the Queensland Reds earlier this month, it could have marked the downfall for the Western Force.
It might explain the Force’s poor results this season for fans could easily use this as an excuse for a coach not fully committed to the team. Who knows how long he’s been focussed on himself and his next job as opposed to the task in front of him?
No one had foreseen last week’s departure of Graham, who was contracted to the Force until the end of the 2014 season wearing a 29 percent winning record on his sleeve.
With the tables now turned upside down, the young 39-year-old has been lured over to the defending Super Rugby champions in what has been speculated as part of the club’s long term succession plan with Ewen McKenzie.
“It’s the opportunity to go to a rugby-strong state and a young side that has already won a Super Rugby championship,” Richard Graham said.
In all honesty, how could one expect the players to continue to look up to their leader after publicly announcing his departure for an apparent winning culture and rugby driven state? Talk about a kick in the guts for WA rugby union.
There is a bitter sense of irony in the air too. After all, the Force snatched a number of key Reds squad members during their opening seasons of Super Rugby including ex-captain Nathan Sharpe, Drew Mitchell, and Digby Ioane.
And now, in what could be potentially a future great asset, from the Force’s coaching staff – Richard Graham.
Just how often do we see a formulated futuristic plan across any football code these days anyway?
So what are we to expect now of the Western Force without a mentor in place?
The Force are currently held to a record of seven wins in 24 games in 2011-12 and are now sitting favourites for bottom place of the Australian conference with eight games to go side by side with the Melbourne Rebels.
The Force are yet to be playing the footy they would have liked to with only 181 points clocked up in attack, the fifth lowest in the competition, but still surprisingly higher than the Queensland Reds.
The fact that the Force will struggle to sign any new players, that is to say retain players, until a new coach is brought in is probably the biggest hints of them all – the Force are in turmoil.
And that isn’t their biggest of concerns. The future of Wallabies star and soon to be out of contract Force captain David Pocock now hangs in the balance.
One would imagine that the Western Force will go above and beyond the call of duty to keep him in WA.
But more work still needs to be done. A step forward in rejuvenating the club would be starting the search for a real gem of a coach, who will attract top shelf players from around Australia as well as overseas – another Jake White (if one exists).
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April 24th 2012 @ 2:00am
Tom Logan said | April 24th 2012 @ 2:00am | Report comment
Great post Tommy!
April 24th 2012 @ 8:06pm
Bludger said | April 24th 2012 @ 8:06pm | Report comment
Which city is ‘Western’ ? Somewhere in California isn’t it?
April 24th 2012 @ 2:13am
Geoff Brisbane now California said | April 24th 2012 @ 2:13am | Report comment
Not sure if he will be an actual loss but do not let Pocock slip through as that would be just about the finish of the Force. Look at recruiting young players with a few older ones from NZ and Aus. Reality is there is only so much talent and money to go around.
April 24th 2012 @ 3:01am
Johnno said | April 24th 2012 @ 3:01am | Report comment
Why players keep leaving the force or the star players I don’t know. Perth is a nice city too live, .
I think it is family reasons perhaps, as most rugby players are from the east coast currently.
Where as you notice in AFL the west coast and docker players, are fairly loyal,
April 24th 2012 @ 10:46am
nickoldschool said | April 24th 2012 @ 10:46am | Report comment
Agree Johnno, something’s not managed/handled the right way there. The WF have attracted some of the highest-profile players around in the last 5years (Giteau, JOC, Mitchell, Ioane, Nalaga, Sharpe etc) and most of them have left after a couple of years at most, Sharpe being the exception. So it seems they do have a good selling speech but players retention is the issue. Why? Dunno. And the fact results havent been going their way lately isnt going to help.
There is definitely worse than living in a city like Perth and how many players need to live near their extended family anyway?? Reckon there are quite a few rugby players wives & kids who wouldnt mind living there!
April 24th 2012 @ 8:28pm
Jack Russell said | April 24th 2012 @ 8:28pm | Report comment
2 reasons for that.
- At least half the Eagles and Dockers players are actually from WA
- The AFL system makes it hard to move clubs, partly because of the draft and partly because there is a greater culture of loyalty in the AFL (for whatever reason).
The second reason you can’t do much about, but the first you can. For their sake you’d hope that they can start producing their own talent in the next few years.
April 24th 2012 @ 7:25am
kingplaymaker said | April 24th 2012 @ 7:25am | Report comment
Johnno it’s funny how these players think that NSW and QLD are the teams they ultimately want to play for, disregarding how well those teams play in the end. Look at the case of Hooper at the Brumbies turning down the possibility of developing under Jake White in a dynamic young team in order to play for the Waratahs. Very curious.
Perhaps this is the Damascus moment the Force, like the Reds and Brumbies, had to to have. Although the situations are different, it could be that a radical outsider such as White could invigorate and change the culture and transform it into a successful team. White got together a good group of no-namers by looking at the available talent long and hard and maybe another outsider would do the same. They might not get another White, but there are other good coaches in the world: Nick Mallett, Michael Cheika, Wayne Smith and others who they could look at. What they should avoid is the appointment of an insider assistant such as Hickey/Foley at the Waratahs and Damiel Hill at the Rebels.
April 24th 2012 @ 8:09am
formeropenside said | April 24th 2012 @ 8:09am | Report comment
Cry me a river. Poaching turnabout is fair play.
April 24th 2012 @ 8:29am
mania said | April 24th 2012 @ 8:29am | Report comment
agree fully. isnt this just aussie sides cannabilising each other? hmmm getting that 5th teams not looking so hot after all
April 24th 2012 @ 12:48pm
Denby said | April 24th 2012 @ 12:48pm | Report comment
I think it has been brilliant. True competition inside Australia will create true advancement in the game. Think about the development of players, coaches and administrators in Australia over the next 10 years with 5 teams fighting it out.
April 24th 2012 @ 5:57pm
Justin said | April 24th 2012 @ 5:57pm | Report comment
Short term pain mania, agree with Denby below. No one ever expected AUS to have 5 competitive teams when the Rebels came in. Its a long term plan, something we do not see enough of in AUS
April 24th 2012 @ 12:45pm
sittingbison said | April 24th 2012 @ 12:45pm | Report comment
FOS I dont seem to recall that being your sentiment when the Force signed their start up players from Reds
April 24th 2012 @ 8:15am
sixo_clock said | April 24th 2012 @ 8:15am | Report comment
As long as the Force power-brokers believe that you only have to throw money at a problem to resolve it these issues will continue to rise. Squads need long range thinking. The start up Brumbies had a wonderful opportunity to turn the squad’s disappointment of not being picked for their home state into a determination that won two titles. The loyalty and identification this engendered became teamwork of the highest order, the results followed.
The Force (and Rebels) have to try and tap into that process. They both need to embed their staff, squad and families into the local environment. That anyone responded to outside requests is a strategic failure of the senior management.
April 24th 2012 @ 8:29am
DingoBob said | April 24th 2012 @ 8:29am | Report comment
It is a worry that if Pocock does stay with the Force that being seen as their saviour he will be under enormous pressure. This of course could start to affect the way he plays which would be a tragedy in itself. He may have to leave to save himself.
April 24th 2012 @ 9:20am
levelheaded said | April 24th 2012 @ 9:20am | Report comment
kingplaymaker – not sure I agree with your sentiments. Succession planning in any sporting code is a must and is the most proven, successful model. Take away opinions for one second – it works! There are basic principles that come to play and don’t forget the Waratahs are a developing young squad, that just don’t come out with the jargon in the media, but read through their squad.
Argument 2, we should promote Australian coaches and I was very impressed to hear that spoken of when the Waratahs chose to select Foley.
Argument 3, many of the international Coaches now available, that are Australian were not available when they were recruiting. You obviously need a Coach for pre-season, so don’t throw that rubbish out!
April 24th 2012 @ 9:40am
kingplaymaker said | April 24th 2012 @ 9:40am | Report comment
levelheaded but compare two players not brought from within, Mckenzie and White, and look at how successful they are compared to three brought from within, Hickey/Foley/Hill. The difference is quite clear. If you want Australians you can get many good ones from overseas now too such as Michael Cheika, Brian Smith and Steve Meehan.
April 24th 2012 @ 9:44am
Acorn said | April 24th 2012 @ 9:44am | Report comment
Seriously Richard Graham leaving is a good result for the Force. He’s a hack, hasn’t had any success of note, and hasn’t developed any players or structures in the way the Force play. Have they improved at all in the last 5 years or are they still as bad? Look at the shambles that was the Brumbies this time last year. Now look how quickly you can turn it around with the right appointment. What is crucial however is that they get the absolute best possible candidate for that job. A Cheika, Mallett, Kirwan or another strong minded coach (a Jamie Joseph type) NOT the Foley or Hill type- too passive. This is a great opportunity to get someone in with a bit of fire to shoot a rocket up that place and get the Force humming, for too long they have been meandering around doing not much.
April 24th 2012 @ 10:08am
Bigbaz said | April 24th 2012 @ 10:08am | Report comment
Good post.I think the Force have pretty good cattle and pretty poor coaching.Graham expertise is supposed to be backs coaching,spare my days that is were the Force are poorest.
April 24th 2012 @ 11:43am
kingplaymaker said | April 24th 2012 @ 11:43am | Report comment
‘Seriously Richard Graham leaving is a good result for the Force. He’s a hack, hasn’t had any success of note, and hasn’t developed any players or structures in the way the Force play’
It doesn’t sound like a good result for the Reds then. One thing which has gone almost unmentioned in all the controversy is what this means for the revival of the Reds, if an unexceptional coach is about to take over, instead of another three years of Mckenzie.
April 24th 2012 @ 12:59pm
sittingbison said | April 24th 2012 @ 12:59pm | Report comment
KPM I have commented at length on exactly this issue in the other threads about the reds.
Essentially I cannot understand why they would go for RG, a losing coach. He has not delivered in any aspect, no quality signings, no player development, no local players given an opportunity, the backs skills going backwards despite him supposedly being a backs coach (in fact the Force does not have a backs coach after RG became head), no 10s signed despite it being the achilles heal of the team since inception, no discernible game planother than hoof it straight back to opposition hoping they make a mistake, or if that is the players deviating from his game plan then not hooking them.
He has been a shambles.
April 24th 2012 @ 1:23pm
kingplaymaker said | April 24th 2012 @ 1:23pm | Report comment
sittingbison it’s peculiar, not least because there are other outstanding candidates in the world. It was said of some Roman emperors that they would choose successors who would make them look good by comparison, though that wouldn’t make sense here as the Queensland board obviously thought it was a good idea. Mystifying.
April 24th 2012 @ 2:31pm
sittingbison said | April 24th 2012 @ 2:31pm | Report comment
Caesar linkus and The imperial senate of Qld %)
And look what Nero did with while fiddling…
April 24th 2012 @ 2:50pm
AndyS said | April 24th 2012 @ 2:50pm | Report comment
I wasn’t sure anyone would go there. You can certainly see the positioning can’t you – the Reds do well and EM will still be ultimately in charge, they do poorly and he’ll really have no input any more to the coaching of the side. It certainly doesn’t seem likely that he’d appoint someone who might come in, take the Reds to even greater heights and pip him for the big job, at least not without being able to poach the lions share of the credit. RG’s no fool and I’m sure he realises that, but simple fact is it’s an opportunity he couldn’t really afford to turn down.