You choose the Wallabies squad for upcoming Tests
By Adam-15, 30 Apr 2012 Adam-15 is a Roar Pro
Wallabies player David Pocock takes the ball forward. AAP Image/Dave Hunt
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On the second of June the Wallabies will take on Scotland in their first international match of the year at Newcastle. It will be a chance for the Wallabies to avenge their 9-8 loss to the Scots at Murrayfield in 2009.
Also, it will be a chance for Robbie Deans and his new coaching team to broaden their horizons in terms of selection, with many selection headaches.
Poor form, injuries, new kids on the block, and a resurgence from others, will all cause Robbie Deans to think very carefully about who to expose to international rugby this year.
The match against the Scots, primarily, has been forecast by Roarers and other media as a chance to see new blood, while the squad for the Wales games should be Australia’s best possible.
There are advantages and disadvantages to choosing an inexperienced squad against the Scots.
We all saw what happened against Samoa last year when we underestimated the opposition and were totally embarrassed.
Out of that squad, only Pat McCabe received promotion, and although he played admirably, he lacked the x-factor to help bring home the William Web Ellis trophy.
The squad against Samoa devalued the Wallabies jersey and disrespected Samoa. The same must not happen again against Scotland. That said, the World Cup is a long way away, and it will be a good opportunity for a few new kids on the block to be exposed.
If Australia wants to give more players international exposure, an Australia A team should play more often, but that story is for another day.
This poll can be for a few squads. One for the Scotland test, one for the three Wales tests, a best team overall (one that could play in the Tri-Nations this year, meaning injured players can be picked) and an Australia A team.
You don’t have to have a team for each category, just whichever ones you like. You can create whatever team you like, with players out of position, players out of left field or players who I haven’t included below.
Simply leave a comment with your respective team or teams in the comment section below.
I have created a (not-so) shortlist below of 82 players. Bear in mind that James O’Connor is out for the Scotland Test and at least one Wales test, Quade Cooper is expected to miss at least the Scotland Test, and Ben Tapuai, Lachie Turner, Drew Mitchell, Matt Toomua, Dan Vickerman and Jono Lance will miss all the Tests.
Props: Benn Robinson, Sekope Kepu, James Slipper, Dan Palmer, Ben Alexander, Pek Cowan, Salesi Ma’afu, Rodney Blake, Paddy Ryan.
Hookers: Tatafu Palotu-Nau, Stephen Moore, James Hanson, Saia Fainga’a, Nathan Charles.
Locks: Kane Douglas, Sitaleki Timani, Dan Vickerman, Rob Simmons, James Horwill, Scott Fardy, Sam Carter, Nathan Sharpe, Luke Jones, Hugh Pyle, Sam Wykes, Toby Lynn.
Blindside flanker: Rocky Elsom, Lopeti Timani, Dave Dennis, Scott Higginbotham, Ben Mowen, Matt Hodgson, Jarrod Saffy.
Openside flanker: Chris Alcock, Liam Gill, Beau Robinson, David Pocock, Michael Hooper, Michael Lipman.
Number 8: Radike Samo, Jake Schatz, Wycliff Palu, Fotu Auelua, Ita Vaea, Ben McCalman.
Scrumhalf: Will Genia, Brendan McKibbon, Nic White, Nick Phipps, Richard Kingi, Nick Frisby.
Flyhalf: Berrick Barnes, Quade Cooper, Christian Lealifano, James O’Connor, Matt Toomua.
Inside centre: Pat McCabe, Ben Tapuai, Mike Harris, Tom Carter, Jono Lance.
Outside centre: Andrew Smith, Anthony Fainga’a, Nick Cummins, Rory Sidey, Mitch Inman, Adam Ashley-Cooper, Rob Horne, Tevita Kuridrani, Lloyd Johansson, Stirling Mortlock.
Wing: Joe Tomane, Henry Speight, Digby Ioane, Luke Morahan, Dom Shipperley, Alfie Mafi, Cooper Vuna, Tom Kingston, Mark Gerrard, Lachie Turner, Drew Mitchell.
Fullback: Kurtley Beale, Jesse Mogg, David Harvey, Bernard Foley.
This is simply a poll, so negative comments aren’t needed. The team will be published once all votes are in. Select away Roarers!
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April 30th 2012 @ 6:02am
Ben S said | April 30th 2012 @ 6:02am | Report comment
Michael Lipman gained 10 caps for England, Adam.
April 30th 2012 @ 6:52am
gormon Kinchley said | April 30th 2012 @ 6:52am | Report comment
out of interest mate, who do you think should make the team to play Scotland?
April 30th 2012 @ 9:22am
Adam-15 said | April 30th 2012 @ 9:22am | Report comment
It’s a difficult choice really
1. Benn Robinson
2. Moore
3. Palmer
4. Horwill
5. Sharpe
6. Higginbotham
7. Pocock
8. Palu
9. Genia
10. Lealifano
11. Shipperley
12. Barnes
13. Nic Cummins
14. Gerrard
15. Beale
16. Charles
17. Alexander
18. Sitaleki Timani
19. Dennis
20. Gill
21. Nic White
22. Tomane
April 30th 2012 @ 7:29am
Uncle Eric said | April 30th 2012 @ 7:29am | Report comment
Yeah Lloyd Johanssen and Tom Carter in the centres, dream combination!!
April 30th 2012 @ 9:23am
Pillock said | April 30th 2012 @ 9:23am | Report comment
Carter won’t get the gig until he learns to tackle.
April 30th 2012 @ 9:27am
Maughan said | April 30th 2012 @ 9:27am | Report comment
And play rugby.
April 30th 2012 @ 9:31am
Adam-15 said | April 30th 2012 @ 9:31am | Report comment
i’d never have him. Only written there just in case some wombat roarer has a brain explosion
April 30th 2012 @ 9:54am
Justin said | April 30th 2012 @ 9:54am | Report comment
And cover 10 metres in less than 5 seconds
May 1st 2012 @ 6:38am
Uncle Eric said | May 1st 2012 @ 6:38am | Report comment
Come on fellas, said (typed) with my tongue firmly planted in my cheek!! I’m nudging 58, with two dodgy knees and I reckon Carter couldn’t run out of sight of me in a week.
April 30th 2012 @ 7:38am
Justin said | April 30th 2012 @ 7:38am | Report comment
Is that every player in AUS S15? Bloody hell could have trimmed it by 30% at least…
April 30th 2012 @ 8:08am
Adam-15 said | April 30th 2012 @ 8:08am | Report comment
I know it’s big its an opinion poll so if I leave someone out, someone else will have a problem. But on the other hand I do the selections this year are very wide open.
April 30th 2012 @ 7:45am
kingplaymaker said | April 30th 2012 @ 7:45am | Report comment
This isn’t a team that could play any time soon but just one that might be interesting to watch:
Robinson
TPN
Kepu
S.Timani
L.Timani
Vaea
Pocock
Palu
Genia
Cooper
Ioane
Kudriani/Barnes
Tomane
JOC
Beale
April 30th 2012 @ 8:11am
Ben S said | April 30th 2012 @ 8:11am | Report comment
How would the lineout/restarts function? Who would call them/
April 30th 2012 @ 1:05pm
Red Kev said | April 30th 2012 @ 1:05pm | Report comment
With TPN throwing it wouldn’t really matter what the call was.
April 30th 2012 @ 2:26pm
jameswm said | April 30th 2012 @ 2:26pm | Report comment
Look at the stats. I think you’ll find Moore loses more lineouts with poor throws.
April 30th 2012 @ 3:32pm
Red Kev said | April 30th 2012 @ 3:32pm | Report comment
Watch the games rather than the stats and you’ll notice that under any sort of pressure TPN’s throwing goes to pot. Waratahs deep on attack, 10 minutes to go, 4 points behind … overthrow. Defensive lineout 15m from the try line in a close game, straight to the opposition jumper.
April 30th 2012 @ 5:03pm
jameswm said | April 30th 2012 @ 5:03pm | Report comment
Not on the weekend Kev. He’s unfairly targeted because his lineout throwing needed work 3 years ago. Moore loses more, take a tally.
April 30th 2012 @ 5:12pm
Jiggles said | April 30th 2012 @ 5:12pm | Report comment
I think the issue of TPN’s wayward throwing is a bit overstated. What I am more concerned about with TPN is his inherent laziness around the park. Generally he makes a solid mid field break, followed by 10 minutes of ‘work’ which comprises of standing around in the mid field and being second or third man into rucks rest on the side. If it is not a break, he will make a dominate tackle or dominate a ruck, but what ensures is always the same, about 10 minutes of absolutely no work.
Its a shame because when he does decide to work hard, his impact is noticeable.
April 30th 2012 @ 8:07am
Fetus said | April 30th 2012 @ 8:07am | Report comment
Players like McCabe have said they are willing to put themselves on the line for the few day turn around. That said it is hard to go past players like Dennis, Sam carter, mowen and Nathan Charles who are all playing better or as well as the wallabies incumbents. Kpm I still disagree with your need for Polynesian power though yesterday Palu showed he is almost back to his best. I think Dennis has earnt the 6 jersey or at least the bench spot. And lealifano deserves first shot at the 10 if no others are available. Mogg is still a little bit to raw.
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April 30th 2012 @ 11:36am
jameswm said | April 30th 2012 @ 11:36am | Report comment
Charles is playing as well as or better than TPN?
April 30th 2012 @ 9:09am
kingplaymaker said | April 30th 2012 @ 9:09am | Report comment
Fetus that isn’t a starting team at all, but one of players who it might be good to see in action through the international season.
April 30th 2012 @ 9:17am
Crazy Horse said | April 30th 2012 @ 9:17am | Report comment
Nick Cummins should be in there. He is having a blinder of a season again and of course was previously selected but got injured in the training camp. He can play 11, 12, 13 or 14 although I prefer him at 13.
Sam Wykes has an ACL injury so is unlikely to be available for selection. A pity because otherwise I’d have him in there.
April 30th 2012 @ 9:46am
rl said | April 30th 2012 @ 9:46am | Report comment
Based on current injuries and form (and a prayer that Cooper will be fit and in-form):
v Scotland
1 Alexander
2 Hanson
3 Palmer
4 Sharpe (C)
5 Simmons
6 Hodgson
7 Gill
8 Mowen
9 White
10 Lucas
11 Tomane
12 Harris
13 Cummins
14 Shipperley
15 Foley
16 Charles 17 Cowan 18 Jones 19 Dennis 20 Saffy 21 Frisby 22 Mogg
v Wales
1 Robinson
2 Moore
3 Kepu
4 Horwill (C)
5 Douglas
6 Elsom
7 Pocock
8 Palu
9 Genia
10 Cooper
11 Ioane
12 Lealifano
13 AAC
14 Kingston
15 Beale
16 TPN 17 Slipper 18 Carter 19 Higginbotham 20 Hooper 21 White 22 McCabe
April 30th 2012 @ 10:49am
Red Kev said | April 30th 2012 @ 10:49am | Report comment
Based purely on form I would run the following XV:
Robinson
Moore
Palmer
Simmons
Sharpe
Dennis
Pocock
Mowen
White
Lealiifano
Shipperley
McCabe
Tapuai
Kingston
Mogg
With the bench as follows:
Hanson, Kepu, Pyle, Higginbotham, Genia, AAC, Foley
What is interesting is the number of “big name” Wallabies that I consider to not be playing well enough to earn a spot in a game-day 22 at the moment: O’Connor, Beale, Cooper, Barnes, Ioane, Elsom, Horwill, Palu, TPN (of course some are out injured or are just coming back but others are just being out-played – even guys like Genia and AAC only just makes the bench).
April 30th 2012 @ 10:56am
Red Kev said | April 30th 2012 @ 10:56am | Report comment
Now that I think on it I’d slide Cummins in ahead of AAC.
April 30th 2012 @ 11:38am
jameswm said | April 30th 2012 @ 11:38am | Report comment
No Palu or TPN?
What games have you been watching, Kev? Palu has been improving weekly and is almost back to his menacing best. TPN is a dynamo, brutal scrummager and defender, and better lineout thrower than Moore.
April 30th 2012 @ 11:49am
Justin said | April 30th 2012 @ 11:49am | Report comment
Moore’s work-rate is unbelievable and his performances far more consistent than TPNs. Palu is improving but he isnt near his best yet.
April 30th 2012 @ 1:45pm
jameswm said | April 30th 2012 @ 1:45pm | Report comment
He’s still better than anyone else below his best.
April 30th 2012 @ 1:54pm
Justin said | April 30th 2012 @ 1:54pm | Report comment
Might have some competition from the Capital me thinks…
April 30th 2012 @ 4:32pm
ilikedahoodoogurusingha said | April 30th 2012 @ 4:32pm | Report comment
Exactly…….and Auelua isn’t fully match fit yet.
April 30th 2012 @ 5:11pm
jameswm said | April 30th 2012 @ 5:11pm | Report comment
Yes Justin – at last. I rate Vaea too.
Palu’s still the best of them, even as they’re playing now. But at least we’ve got backup, because we haven’t for at least 4-5 years.
April 30th 2012 @ 8:04pm
Justin said | April 30th 2012 @ 8:04pm | Report comment
James – starting to see your love for Vaea
The kid can play but I think he maybe a super sub for the moment. But a mighty fine one right now.
May 1st 2012 @ 7:00am
Greg ACT said | May 1st 2012 @ 7:00am | Report comment
It pains me to say it as an ACT boy but you’ve got to be impressed by those young kids Schatz and Gill from the Reds. Their work rate and skill. Surely they’d be in consideration if they’re looking to the future.
April 30th 2012 @ 1:51pm
Who Needs Melon said | April 30th 2012 @ 1:51pm | Report comment
Will Taps be right by then?
April 30th 2012 @ 2:05pm
Red Kev said | April 30th 2012 @ 2:05pm | Report comment
No, but I deliberately ignored injuries.