Timani still wants to prove Brumbies wrong
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NSW lock Sitaleki Timani isn’t someone you want on your bad side and, unfortunately for the Brumbies, the Super Rugby man mountain has a long memory.
Timani was with the Brumbies in 2010 and barely had a look in, however the Waratahs have since found the 203cm and 120kg giant a more-than-handy weapon.
Last year in the corresponding match in Canberra, Timani responded to his snubbing by scoring the final-minute match-winner against the Brumbies.
And this time around, the Waratahs will try to take advantage of that burning fire once more, elevating the 25-year-old to the starting-line-up for the first time this season.
Timani said he’s still driven by a desire to prove his former side wrong for not playing him, and is fired up for Saturday night’s crucial Australian Conference derby which the Waratahs are viewing as a must-win for their finals hopes.
“Coming off 2010, I didn’t play any games at the Brumbies and I came down here and got a chance to go back and play against them and it gave me more motivation to try and prove something,” Timani said.
“I’m still trying to prove myself … to every team.
“It’s always good to play against your old mates in Canberra and it’s a big challenge to try and push in and beat them.
“I was just lucky to be there at the right time to get us the win last year. It was a pick and go behind the ruck and I didn’t really see the line. I just put my arm out hoping I was at the line.”
Timani made his international debut for Australia against Samoa last year, and says he’s determined to attract the attention of selectors again.
The Tongan-born forward says he’s focused on making his starting berth at the Waratahs permanent, and he’ll let the rest take care of itself.
“I’m not really thinking about the Wallabies now. I’m just working step by step,” he said.
“My first step now is to try and regain the starting position and the next step is to go from there and play well and try and get the selectors interested in me.”
The game-breaking Timani moves into the starting 15 at the expense of Dean Mumm, who moves back to the reserves bench.
Timani’s promotion is the only change to the Waratahs’ starting XV that lost 37-33 to the Crusaders on Sunday, with blindside flanker Dave Dennis retaining the No.6 jumper from Rocky Elsom.
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May 4th 2012 @ 3:45am
kingplaymaker said | May 4th 2012 @ 3:45am | Report comment
Both Timanis and Joe Tomane should play for Wallabies this year, along with Hooper, Gill and Vaea.
May 4th 2012 @ 7:09am
Johnno said | May 4th 2012 @ 7:09am | Report comment
And so should Kuridrani, Tom Kingston, and Henry Speight. Who would you prefer to have to mark people.
AAC Rob Horne, or a big fearsome 6’5 105kg aggressive young raw 21 yr old like Kuridrani.
May 4th 2012 @ 2:59pm
BraveHeart said | May 4th 2012 @ 2:59pm | Report comment
Kuridrani should make the starting berth permanent first
May 4th 2012 @ 7:20am
kingplaymaker said | May 4th 2012 @ 7:20am | Report comment
Johnno Deans it would seem has a dream opportunity of trying out new players because of having to play almost two different teams against Scotland and Wales, but that opportunity could be a double-jawed trap as of course those too teams are just a little too good to roll out a team of novices and expect it to win.
So the spine of each team will probably need to be steady and familiar, but I would hope to see at least 3 or 4 new players in each 22 and with any others to be phased in over the Wales tour.
Kudriani and Tomane would at least add some size in midfield.
I think Deans should try to be bold because the Lions arrive next year so there is little time left for new players.
May 4th 2012 @ 7:42am
Johnno said | May 4th 2012 @ 7:42am | Report comment
KPM some size , energy, natural aggression, and very strong in attack and tough 1 on 1 Joe Tomane or Kudriani would be tough to mark 10-15 metres out, and men like this have the ability to put fear and respect into the opposition Ma Nonu would hate to have muscle up to Kudriani, same with SBW or Freuan , or Kahui, with Kudriani being taller. Plus there hit ups would get over the advantage line, something AAC or rob horn or tom carter fault to do.
I am a pat Mcabe Fan, as he is such a good defender one of the best defenders ever I have seen. I know he is not your favourite player KPM but he offers more than Tom Carter I think who was made to look amateur by Robbie Freun.. I agree his attack is at times, is 1 dimensional. But he runs hard at least he has improved his ball playing skills. But Mcabe does run hard he has matured under a White a bit.
May 4th 2012 @ 8:00am
kingplaymaker said | May 4th 2012 @ 8:00am | Report comment
Johnno I admire Mccabe’s directness, committment, fearlessness, and straightforwardness. He doesn’t claim to do anything too fancy but throws himself into what he does. He was certainly critical in the quarter-final victory over South Africa and is far above Tom Carter.
I hope for something from Tomane or Kudriani too, but really it would be nice if some other new players as well this year!
May 4th 2012 @ 8:43am
Sailosi said | May 4th 2012 @ 8:43am | Report comment
Maybe Kuridrani, but not Tomane, he’s a very limited player at this stage. He has zero kicking game, his work off the ball is average and he can’t pass to his left. Maybe another year or two.
When is Henry Speight eligible?
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May 4th 2012 @ 9:11am
kingplaymaker said | May 4th 2012 @ 9:11am | Report comment
Sailosi Tomane may not kick but there are several good kickers in the backline, and while he have some imperfections in his game he’s only trying to get into the Wallabies backline and so will still be better than say…..Anthony Faiingaa. There isn’t another year or two to wait, the Lions arrive next year and so he must be played straight away or not at all.
Speight doesn’t seem as damaging a runner as Tomane.
May 4th 2012 @ 9:19am
Sailosi said | May 4th 2012 @ 9:19am | Report comment
I haven’t seen much from tomane at all. In fact he just doesn’t impress me. I thought he would be much stronger in contact, he seems to have lost a lot of weight.
Speight has one thing that Aussie backs lack and that is genuine speed.
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May 4th 2012 @ 11:16am
kingplaymaker said | May 4th 2012 @ 11:16am | Report comment
Sailosi I suppose there’s a few more rounds to see. Maybe some other bright spark will light up….maybe not
May 4th 2012 @ 9:22am
Johnno said | May 4th 2012 @ 9:22am | Report comment
Tomane offers far more than Drew Mitchell too. Tomane is highly explosive, big thighs when he gets a bit of steam going he is hard to tackle. He is bigger than Digby Ioane too, and those welsh gorillas on the wings may get a bit of physical contest vs Tomane.
And the Lions next year Sailosi, could be one of the best teams and one of the biggest backlines ever. KPM this could be the Lions backline next year. Here is some frightining size figures
Wings Alex Cutherbert 6’6 106kg George North 6’4 105kg
Centres Jamie ROberts 6’4 110kg Matt Banagahn 6’7 116kg Manu Tuilagi 6’1 110kg(who has now bench pressed 190kg 80kg more than his own body weight) and maybe Brian o’dricscoll will still be up to it Lions
That is some seriously big men the Lions have to choose from KPM. So men like Tomane and Kuridrani will need to be tested now, as they have the natural size to match these Lions players.
-Men like
AAC
Berrick barnes as an I/C anyway
Drew Mitchell
kurtley beale
digby ioane
Rod Davies
Lachie Turner
JOC
Tom carter is about 102kg but is not up to it
A fiaanga
Are all simply too small to handle a Lions bakcline if it is at full strength KPM, real men vs boys stuff.
May 4th 2012 @ 9:34am
jameswm said | May 4th 2012 @ 9:34am | Report comment
Rubbish. AAC, Barnes, Ioane, Lilo etc will tackle those guys no problem, and have the skill and speed to make them look silly. Bigger is not always better, Johno.
May 4th 2012 @ 11:20am
Justin said | May 4th 2012 @ 11:20am | Report comment
Johnno – you do realise that there is no chance in hell Banahan will be in the Lions squad? If he plays a Test then all it means is that we will smash them…
He didnt even make the 22 for any of the 6Ns yet you reference him constantly, but guess what, he aint that good and isnt worth commenting on…
May 4th 2012 @ 2:21pm
rl said | May 4th 2012 @ 2:21pm | Report comment
Blah blah blah. Diggers and Genia both bench 180kegs (which is 87kgs and 95kgs over their respective body weights). Hasn’t done squat for Genia this season until he got the muscle between his ears sorted out.
Rod Davies? Tom Carter? I was taking your comment seriously up until that point.
May 4th 2012 @ 3:28pm
Johnno said | May 4th 2012 @ 3:28pm | Report comment
rl i was piointing out Australia’s weak option and reaility is Tom carter, and Roda Davies are options, and both not very good.
May 4th 2012 @ 5:01pm
rl said | May 4th 2012 @ 5:01pm | Report comment
They are not options. It would be like including Halangahu. But it suited your argument to include them, but not other genuine options with a bit of size about them like Inman, Kingston, Morahan, or even Shipperley (all in excess of 6’1 and 90kgs). Don’t worry, I know I won’t change your view – and I agree, Kuridrani has shown enough to warrant a look, particuarly as we look a bit ropey at 13 on form, let alone size.
Anyway, you can get back to thinking about Joe Tomane’s big thighs! (Rodzilla’s got some big ‘uns too… mmmm)
May 4th 2012 @ 5:17pm
Johnno said | May 4th 2012 @ 5:17pm | Report comment
yes i want to see his big thighs slamming into Ab’s heads, and smashing his way past Nonu and SBW and co. He has the size in fact he is bigger than them.
May 5th 2012 @ 7:49am
Uncle Eric said | May 5th 2012 @ 7:49am | Report comment
Hells bells Johnno how often have you come up with thisWings Alex Cutherbert 6’6 106kg George North 6’4 105kg
Centres Jamie ROberts 6’4 110kg Matt Banagahn 6’7 116kg Manu Tuilagi 6’1 110kg(who has now bench pressed 190kg 80kg more than his own body weight) and maybe Brian o’dricscoll will still be up to it Lions’. We’ve all read it several times, how about giving us a break from this point?
May 4th 2012 @ 9:59am
Bakkies said | May 4th 2012 @ 9:59am | Report comment
There is a reason why Timani didn’t get a look in. His handling and application was terrible
May 4th 2012 @ 10:47am
Brett McKay said | May 4th 2012 @ 10:47am | Report comment
Bakkies I recall similar comments from Timani last year too, that he wanted to prove the Brumbies wrong. It’s been two years, isn’t it time to move on already??
May 4th 2012 @ 10:55am
Johnno said | May 4th 2012 @ 10:55am | Report comment
Brett I still haven’t moved on from Katich being axed.
May 4th 2012 @ 11:04am
Brett McKay said | May 4th 2012 @ 11:04am | Report comment
I’m afraid that says more about you, Johnno…
May 4th 2012 @ 11:11am
Johnno said | May 4th 2012 @ 11:11am | Report comment
I know Brett I need help serious help. The only way I will recover from axing of Katich is if the aussie can make a solid opening combination by 2013. Watson/Cowan/Warner/ maybe phil highs again anyway who knows.
But i would just take a waratahs super rugby title just 1 this year would be handy.
May 4th 2012 @ 4:12pm
formeropenside said | May 4th 2012 @ 4:12pm | Report comment
I think a Watson/Cowan/Warner front row would be in trouble at Super rugby level, let alone Tests.
May 4th 2012 @ 11:24am
jeznez said | May 4th 2012 @ 11:24am | Report comment
Brett, in real life yes it would be time to move on. In sport where we love grudge matches I hope Timani has big games against the Brumbies for years to come!
The second row battle is going to be an interesting one. Fardy is probably the best ball runner of the four starters, Carter the most mobile while Timani and Douglas bring power with Timani in particular loving the breakdown confrontation. Am going to be watching how the four of them go with great interest.
May 4th 2012 @ 11:39am
kingplaymaker said | May 4th 2012 @ 11:39am | Report comment
jeznez for those four to make the squad Horwill,Sharpe and/or Vickerman would need to be axed. Vickerman probably won’t be fit, but that still means six players into four places. I think that means Timani and one other. Of course six can be tried if there are completely different teams for the Scotland and Wales game, although some will only get one shot.
May 4th 2012 @ 11:42am
jeznez said | May 4th 2012 @ 11:42am | Report comment
KPM, I was only talking about this weekend. Ultimately come the internationals there is an opportunity between the Scotland/Wales games to look at six guys. Vickerman is unlikely to be in the frame by then so the six will likely come from Horwill, Simmons, Sharpe, Fardy, Carter, Lynn, Timani, Douglas, Jones and Pyle – so at least four dissapointed players there.
Interestingly I see Like Jones is playing back row this week which I think he is better suited for at this stage of his career.
May 4th 2012 @ 11:46am
kingplaymaker said | May 4th 2012 @ 11:46am | Report comment
jeznez I think Pyle and Douglas won’t make it, Horwill, Simmons, Sharpe and Timani will, and the two most naturally talented of the others. Having said that, do the first three of those really deserve to start on their performances this year?
May 4th 2012 @ 4:24pm
jeznez said | May 4th 2012 @ 4:24pm | Report comment
KP, we have a few weeks yet before those decisions need to be made. Timani is in his first starting game of the year so lets see how he goes, I really like young Sam Carter at the Brumbies who has been strong. Lets see how Carter goes up against a very powerful pack this weekend.
Genia was badly out of form but snapped out of it on the weekend – Horwill may make that switch as well. Plenty of rugby to occur before we have to start picking teams.
May 4th 2012 @ 11:29am
Markus said | May 4th 2012 @ 11:29am | Report comment
I dunno Brett, to me ‘proving them wrong’ shows a bit of an immature mentality, that the Brumbies were somehow incorrect in their assessment of his handling and workrate at that time. He has clearly worked hard on these aspects of his game since his move, and is a much better player for it, so I don’t see the need for any resentment.
Compare that attitude to John Ulugia, who was released at the same time and spent several months working at a grindhouse before being picked up by the Tahs, and admitted that being released has made him work much harder at his game.
May 4th 2012 @ 11:46am
Brett McKay said | May 4th 2012 @ 11:46am | Report comment
That’s essentially what I meant too, Markus. If the Brumbies thought Timani was worth keeping, they would’ve kept him. That Timani has ‘reignited’ his career at the Tahs – remembering the Force let him go before he joined the Brumbies – is a good thing for him as a player. In many ways, he should be thanking the Brumbies!
May 4th 2012 @ 12:58pm
bmwwilliams said | May 4th 2012 @ 12:58pm | Report comment
Brett, the whole thing just smacks of arrogance – ‘The Brumbies failed to recognise my brilliance’, rather than acknowledging you weren’t good enough at the time, but have worked hard to make the grade.
Clearly humility is not yet one of his skills…
May 4th 2012 @ 4:20pm
jeznez said | May 4th 2012 @ 4:20pm | Report comment
Guys I think you are reading too much of the commentary in the piece and not enough of the actual quotes. Have a look at what he actually said about playing the Brumbies:
“Coming off 2010, I didn’t play any games at the Brumbies and I came down here and got a chance to go back and play against them and it gave me more motivation to try and prove something,”
“I’m still trying to prove myself … to every team.
“It’s always good to play against your old mates in Canberra and it’s a big challenge to try and push in and beat them.
May 4th 2012 @ 4:56pm
bmwwilliams said | May 4th 2012 @ 4:56pm | Report comment
quite possibly jez, but I love a bit of pre-game smack talk!
May 4th 2012 @ 5:57pm
jeznez said | May 4th 2012 @ 5:57pm | Report comment
sorry – didn’t realise that is what we were engaging in.
In that case the big bad Waratah pack is going to smash the baby Brumbies off the ball. We’ve got two actual 120 kg second rowers not wannabe back rowers like Fardy and Carter. Bring it on!!!!
May 4th 2012 @ 5:52pm
Bakkies said | May 4th 2012 @ 5:52pm | Report comment
Yep quiet simple he wasn’t good enough. He struggled at the Force too