‘Campo’ too generous: Lord’s dream XV contains just two current Wallabies
By David Lord, 11 May 2012 David Lord is a Roar Expert
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Wallaby wing legend David Campese copped a fair bit of stick from the majority of the 163 Roarers who commented on his column yesterday.
“In reality, I think more than half of today’s players wouldn’t have cut it in my era,” was the comment that struck a goodly few nerves.
In my book, ‘Campo’ was being extremely generous.
He was an integral member of two teams that created Wallaby history – capturing the 1984 Grand Slam, and the 1991 Rugby World Cup.
If we line up those two teams, and the Wallaby side at the 2011 Rugby World Cup – where of course, the Wallabies couldn’t overcome the All Blacks at home to progress to the final, but won bronze after beating Wales in the repercharge game.
Looking at the teams, it becomes crystal clear which eras enjoyed the talent.
| 1984 | 1991 | 2011 | Lord’s XV: | |
| 1 | Topo Rodriguez | Tony Daly | Benn Robinson | Rodriguez |
| 2 | Tommy Lawton | Phil Kearns | Stephen Moore | Kearns |
| 3 | Andy McIntyre | Ewen McKenzie | Ben Alexander | McKenzie |
| 4 | Steve Cutler | Rod McCall | Rob Simmons | Cutler |
| 5 | Steve Williams | John Eales | James Horwill (c) | Eales (c) |
| 6 | Simon Poidevin | Simon Poidevin | Rocky Elsom | Poidevin |
| 7 | David Codey | Willie Ofahengaue | David Pocock | Pocock |
| 8 | Steve Tuynman | Troy Coker | Wycliff Palu | Palu |
| 9 | Nick Farr-Jones | Nick Farr-Jones (c) | Will Genia | Farr-Jones |
| 10 | Mark Ella | Michael Lynagh | Quade Cooper | Ella |
| 11 | Brendan Moon | Rob Egerton | Adam Ashley-Cooper | Moon |
| 12 | Michael Lynagh | Tim Horan | Pat McCabe | Horan |
| 13 | Andy Slack (c) | Jason Little | Anthony Fainga’a | Little |
| 14 | David Campese | David Campese | James O’Connor | Campese |
| 15 | Roger Gould | Marty Roebuck | Kurtley Beale | Gould |
Pocock is the only current Wallaby who would be an automatic selection to crack the 1984 and 1991 sides. Palu, at his uninjured best, wins selection over Tuynman by a whisker.
Of the others, Beale would have given Gould a good run for his money for the 15 jersey, so too Genia, at his very best, with Farr-Jones. The nod clearly goes to Farr-Jones who never had a bad game, Genia’s had quite a few.
That’s it – just two.
Worth repeating, Campese was being extremely generous in saying more than half the current Wallabies wouldn’t have made it in his era.
But what about the combined era side. A dream team.
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May 11th 2012 @ 7:44am
kingplaymaker said | May 11th 2012 @ 7:44am | Report comment
I wonder if the kind of players in the amateur era who would be say, bankers, lawyers and play rugby in the evening for the Wallabies since the professional era have chosen banking, law instead of the profession of rugby.
It’s just a thought, because there seems to be quite a difference in the amount of talent being produced and there must be an explanation aside from the NRL’s ever-increasing pillaging of rugby’s teenager players.
May 11th 2012 @ 10:49am
Atawhai Drive said | May 11th 2012 @ 10:49am | Report comment
Interesting question, KPM.
Some seriously bright people played rugby in the amateur days, a conspicuous example being Arthur Smith, who played for Scotland on the wing between 1955 and 1962 and went on two Lions tours of South Africa, the second one as captain. By the time of that second tour he was Dr Smith, with a PhD in mathematics from Cambridge.
Academically gifted types are still present in the professional era. In New Zealand, Victor Vito has a BA in ancient history and is now working on a law degree. But when does he find time?
The demands of professional rugby make serious academic study very difficult, obviously. So you do wonder if some talented players are taking the long-term career option, to rugby’s detriment.
May 11th 2012 @ 11:28am
kingplaymaker said | May 11th 2012 @ 11:28am | Report comment
AD I think in the amateur era many players had full-time jobs and played rugby on the side, but it could be that these days a lot of them prefer a stable life-long career, especially a well-paid one, to the risk of a rugby career. This could be the real reason for the decline in playing quality in Australia.
Campo’s remark that he would have had to take a pay cut to play professional league is relevant here. It could be the Campos and Horans of today are hard at work in investment banks and corporate law firms.
May 11th 2012 @ 1:52pm
jeznez said | May 11th 2012 @ 1:52pm | Report comment
KP, interesting question and initial gut feel was yes but then I’d also think those kind of guys would still play at an amatuer level out of love.
I don’t see these guys kicking around subbies absolutely blitzing everyone so maybe it isn’t the case.
May 11th 2012 @ 6:33pm
p.Tah said | May 11th 2012 @ 6:33pm | Report comment
I think there a few blokes in corporate law firms and investment banks who probably think they could play professional rugby… But I seriously doubt it
May 12th 2012 @ 1:11am
peeeko said | May 12th 2012 @ 1:11am | Report comment
you have really got to get over this NRL pillaging of teenage rugby players
May 11th 2012 @ 7:53am
mania said | May 11th 2012 @ 7:53am | Report comment
dLord – 2′s generous? how bout 1′s generous? if you take into a/c that these players were in the amatuer era, how better would they have been if they were allowed to train 4-6 hours a day and spend 40+ hours a week just working on being better rugby players.
palu’s a stretch. WillieO would’ve made a better 8 than Palu. pocock would be the only one that would make it
May 11th 2012 @ 1:48pm
jeznez said | May 11th 2012 @ 1:48pm | Report comment
Since David has allowed the injured Benn Robinson to come into consideration he also needs to allow the injured Tim Gavin in 1991 – that is where I would go for my number 8. Willie was ok at 8 in a pinch but TG was up there for best in world before he got injured.
And as Justin points out below Willie O was not a 7, he and Poidevin are the wrong way around in the 1991 side. I’d also switch McCall and Eales between 4/5 in that side and wind up with a combined forward pack like this:
1. Topo
2. Kearns
3. McKenzie
4. Eales
5. Horwill
6. Willie O
7. Pocock
8. Gavin
May 12th 2012 @ 12:00pm
steve.h said | May 12th 2012 @ 12:00pm | Report comment
This article is stupid, what about the 2001 and wallabies? Larkham, Gregan, Roff, Kefu, Smith etc? All Professional and a lot would of made the top Wallabies of all time. Once again a Journalist leaving out information to suit their argument. Just because Australia currently doesn’t have a very good side doesn’t mean their is something wrong with Professional Rugby. The issue is Australia has moved away from the game plan that suits them to adopt NZ/League hybrid type game. Professional Rugby is by far better to watch than the games of old.
May 11th 2012 @ 4:20pm
Acorn said | May 11th 2012 @ 4:20pm | Report comment
even Toutai Kefu was better than Palu. Cliffy’s too injury prone
May 11th 2012 @ 7:57am
Justin said | May 11th 2012 @ 7:57am | Report comment
““In reality, I think more than half of today’s players wouldn’t have cut it in my era,”
This is a very different statement to who would be selected in a Wallaby team from then and now. Considering this Wallaby side is young and we cant even judge the majority of todays players properly yet. Do it in 10 yrs and it might mean something. What if you did the 99 side vs the 84 side, how would that stack up? Its just cherry picking to suit an argument…
Willy O was a 6, not a 7.
May 11th 2012 @ 1:56pm
jeznez said | May 11th 2012 @ 1:56pm | Report comment
The “in my era” is a critical point – I wouldn’t pick Campo ahead of Ioane to play today’s game due to his defensive frailty but would definitely pick Campo in his own era to be the legend that he was.
David – couldn’t you have shuffled the current team to put AAC at 13 and Digby on the wing? That was the stronger team last year. I know Digby got injured but you picked Benn Robinson who didn’t play a test so not sure if that is your reasoning for not putting Digby on the 2011 list.
May 11th 2012 @ 5:29pm
Michael said | May 11th 2012 @ 5:29pm | Report comment
AAC and Digby. You kidding? Maybe AAC on the bench. As an aside Brendon Moon broke his arm in the first game against England and others stepped up like Matthew Burke.
May 12th 2012 @ 11:18am
jeznez said | May 12th 2012 @ 11:18am | Report comment
I was talking about moving AAC to 13 in the 2011 team so that Digby could come onto the wing in that 2011 team.
Once Digby was available for selection then depending on the era the dream side was to play in I would pick Campo or Diggers.
I wasn’t proposing that AAC should make the dream side.
May 11th 2012 @ 7:57am
Miglia said | May 11th 2012 @ 7:57am | Report comment
Good idea David. Agree with your picks except I’d have Bird over Palu. We’re all still waiting for Cliff to run riot in an international. Also take Lawton over Kearns because Keans makes me cringe when he’s calling the S15 games.
May 11th 2012 @ 8:02am
katzilla said | May 11th 2012 @ 8:02am | Report comment
The problem with Campos reasoning was that he used examples like having to fly economy and stay in hotels assigned only 3 stars as proof of ‘times when players played simply for a love of the game’
On that same train of thought he wouldn’t have made it in the Era preceeding his own either,
having of course to catch a ship to England, spending months away staying in hostels and playing a game every other day.
As much as he laughs at the youth of today a generation before him would also have laughed at his own luxuries.
By the end of his career (which is when you should judge him) O’Connor will take his pick of the backbone positions in an all time Wallaby 15.
May 11th 2012 @ 8:08am
mania said | May 11th 2012 @ 8:08am | Report comment
katzilla – joc’s awesome but better than campo? nah, time may prove me wrong but i doubt joc will ever score as many tries as campo. but this is just a guess on my part
May 11th 2012 @ 8:10am
Justin said | May 11th 2012 @ 8:10am | Report comment
He never said better than Campo mania.
May 11th 2012 @ 8:13am
mania said | May 11th 2012 @ 8:13am | Report comment
your right justin he didnt. i apologise katzilla
katzilla this is a very good line “As much as he laughs at the youth of today a generation before him would also have laughed at his own luxuries.” and very very true. my version “no generation should expect to understand the generation before and after them”
May 11th 2012 @ 8:53am
ohtani's jacket said | May 11th 2012 @ 8:53am | Report comment
Campo would have never cut it on the 1973 Wallabies, no siree.
May 11th 2012 @ 11:00am
Harry said | May 11th 2012 @ 11:00am | Report comment
Well I get it OJ even if no one else does. Mind you we should have beaten the Blacks at Ballymore the next year, stormed home to a … draw.
May 11th 2012 @ 12:17pm
Atawhai Drive said | May 11th 2012 @ 12:17pm | Report comment
Damn it, OJ, I had just about erased 1973 from my memory bank.
The scars may never heal.
May 12th 2012 @ 3:02pm
Rob from Brumby Country said | May 12th 2012 @ 3:02pm | Report comment
O’Connor? Are you sure about that? He’s a talented kid, there’s no doubt about that, but he has a lot of maturing to do before I’d consider him an automatic selection, let alone an all-time Wallabies great.
Bear in mind that you are comparing him to the likes of Ella, Larkham, Horan, Little, Burke, Latham, Roff and etcetera. It’s a very high standard. How can you be sure he’ll ever reach it?
May 11th 2012 @ 8:05am
kingplaymaker said | May 11th 2012 @ 8:05am | Report comment
Milz I completely disagree on Palu. Anyone who has carefully followed his career would see he slowly adjusted to international level and made his real breakthrough in the Hong Kong test and subsequent spring tour a couple of years ago. At this point he finally achieved really consistent, devastating international performances. However, he was stuck down with injury and has rarely been fit since. This does not mean he’s lazy or ineffectual, just very unlucky with injury. When fit he is an outstanding player.
Also Palu more than most players these days clearly puts love of the game and a desire for achievement over money. At 29 with some many injuries most players would head overseas for a big payday but this is obviously of less interest to him than playing for the Waratahs and Wallabies. Rarely do you see such high-mindedness and such a lack of materialism, especially in a player who has suffered such bad luck (look at Hugh Mcmenniman). He is a rare player and man.
May 11th 2012 @ 8:09am
mania said | May 11th 2012 @ 8:09am | Report comment
kpm – i think milz is alluding to his work rate when on the field. could be classed as lazy.
May 11th 2012 @ 10:39am
jameswm said | May 11th 2012 @ 10:39am | Report comment
Don’t agree. Palu does a lot of work he doesn’t get credit for.
May 11th 2012 @ 10:43am
mania said | May 11th 2012 @ 10:43am | Report comment
like what jameswm? i’ve already discussed his block busting runs then disappearing for 10-20 minutes. i’d love to know what he’s doing during his down time
May 11th 2012 @ 8:13am
kingplaymaker said | May 11th 2012 @ 8:13am | Report comment
mania before the HK test that was true, but since then and especially on the spring tour he was tireless on the field with a very high work rate. But with Palu there is a tendency to talk of his career as if it is all the same, whereas there is a big difference between Palu before the HK test and after.
May 11th 2012 @ 8:18am
mania said | May 11th 2012 @ 8:18am | Report comment
gotta disagree KPM – to me palu has never been a work horse. does some awesome runs but then disappears for 10-20 minutes. the last injury has brought palu to a shadow of his former self , but his former self was never shining that bright.
palu’s workload vs that of rodney Sooiailo and keiraRead, light years apart.
but thats just my opinion based on nothing except my own observations so i could be wrong.
May 11th 2012 @ 11:53am
Jerry said | May 11th 2012 @ 11:53am | Report comment
Palu didn’t even play in HK. I think you mean Tokyo, KPM.
His last extended period is 4 tests then, KPM. That’s how many he played on that tour, and he’s only played 2 since – one of which was the loss to Ireland in the WC where the Wallabies loose trio was bullied off the park and the other was against the USA. I don’t think one run of decent form on one tour 3 years ago is indicative of a seachange in his overall game.
May 11th 2012 @ 11:55am
Jerry said | May 11th 2012 @ 11:55am | Report comment
Oops that should have been to KPM, not Mania.
May 11th 2012 @ 8:21am
Ben S said | May 11th 2012 @ 8:21am | Report comment
The HK test and after? You’re talking about fewer than 5 games how long ago?
May 11th 2012 @ 8:22am
kingplaymaker said | May 11th 2012 @ 8:22am | Report comment
mania slow down. Follow what I said. In his last extended period he did have a high workload and if you don’t believe me I imagine it’s quite easy to watch the videos of that tour. Before I agree he was on and off, but not then. Before yes, after no. Different. You see?
May 11th 2012 @ 8:25am
mania said | May 11th 2012 @ 8:25am | Report comment
kpm – before yes, after yes. difference? at his best he’d only disappear for 10 minutes at a time. but through out his career i classify his work load as shallow.i’ve just never considered palu as a hard worker.
May 11th 2012 @ 8:51am
Moaman said | May 11th 2012 @ 8:51am | Report comment
KPM…I just saw this headline and due to failing eyesight (or possibly schadenfreude?) I misread the 1st letter of the the word “wing” and thought that he-”Corn Starch”-had finally caught up with you! http://www.stuff.co.nz/dominion-post/news/6900527/Conrad-Smith-It-was-a-bit-scary
May 11th 2012 @ 9:35am
kingplaymaker said | May 11th 2012 @ 9:35am | Report comment
Moaman simply looking at Smith would be enough to make me run a mile. In addition to resembling the hillbilly assailant from Deliverance he has the same running gait as leatherface from the Texas chainsaw massacre. Perhaps that’s why he used to be so successful: opponents were afraid to get in his way just because of the way he looked.
May 11th 2012 @ 8:27am
rob said | May 11th 2012 @ 8:27am | Report comment
There’s probably a reason, but why wasn’t the 1999 side not included, I’d quite happily match them against the Lord XV (only problem Eales & Horan can’t be in two places at once) It’s (1999) the best TEAM Australia has ever put on a park in any era for mine.
May 11th 2012 @ 8:28am
mania said | May 11th 2012 @ 8:28am | Report comment
rob – it was imho the golden era of aus rugby….
May 11th 2012 @ 8:31am
Justin said | May 11th 2012 @ 8:31am | Report comment
Thats my point, doesnt suit his argument…
May 11th 2012 @ 8:34am
Milz said | May 11th 2012 @ 8:34am | Report comment
Rob/Justin agreed 100%. A vast majority of those players are part of the modern era of players that Campo was arguing against. You can’t tell me that some of Lord’s XV would be better than Gregan, Larkham, Tune, Burke, Kefu etc.
May 11th 2012 @ 8:39am
mania said | May 11th 2012 @ 8:39am | Report comment
tune better than campo nah
gregan vs nfj = gregan
ella vs larkham = larkham due to his longevity
burke i dont rate and would have beale
kefu def beats palu
May 11th 2012 @ 9:04am
Moaman said | May 11th 2012 @ 9:04am | Report comment
Mania; Was Campo really that good? Sure he was unpredictable and dangerous with ball in hand…..but he made a lot of blunders too or at least that is my impression..my memory not being what it was.Were he a NZer would we have been so lavish in our praise? Would he have even made an All Black team? Or would he have been judged rather like Robbie Fruean is currently?? ie Great with the ball but with things to work on
May 11th 2012 @ 9:52am
mania said | May 11th 2012 @ 9:52am | Report comment
moaman – yes campo was that good. 64 tries in an era where there were perhaps a quarter as many tests per year.
what i liked the most about campo was his audacity. sure he made a lot of blunders, not all of them he saw as his fault and of these he was right half the time, but he was always trying stuff. the blunders came from these situations but at least it was because he was trying to win the game.
would he have made the AB’s, i reckon. he wouldnt have stayed on the wing but after johnGallagher left he would’ve been moved to fullBack. campo was a better tackler and posistional player than lomu.
campo also he used his team mates around him, unlike a lot of players who try things on their own. campo made every one around him look good
May 11th 2012 @ 1:40pm
jeznez said | May 11th 2012 @ 1:40pm | Report comment
He made some blunders trying stuff – I saw him in one test receive the ball on halfway, run back to his own 22 and then charge back up field beating players left and right only to be tackled right where he had received the ball on the halfway. He got away with that one but gee it was crazy.
He made others like the Ireland 91 WC Quarter Final where he refused to go down on the ball and Geoghan toed it through to lead to the Irish try and cough up the lead. He then subsequently made the yards and presented the ball for the final try and his step at pace for his own try in the first half was sublime but yes he made blunders and that is before you consider his defence.
Still a legend though!
May 11th 2012 @ 9:08am
Milz said | May 11th 2012 @ 9:08am | Report comment
Mania, Tune wasn’t as mercurial as Campo but could do the things Campo didn’t. Put his body on the line every time, tackle hard, get to the breakdown. Without his horrible run of injuries he may well have eclipsed Campo’s try scoring record.
May 11th 2012 @ 9:54am
mania said | May 11th 2012 @ 9:54am | Report comment
please tune was a flash in the pan and no where the inteligence that campo had. i doubt tune would’ve even got close to campo’s try tally despite injuries. 64 tries and these werent playing tier 2-3 teams this was playing a lot of AB, BritishLions, southAfrica (before they got kicked out)
big difference between tune and campo is when campo suggested stuff his team mates believed they could do it. could tune inspire his team like campo did?
May 11th 2012 @ 10:12am
Hoy said | May 11th 2012 @ 10:12am | Report comment
Mania, I am pretty sure Campo only played the Springboks when they came back in, not before they got kicked out.
May 11th 2012 @ 10:15am
mania said | May 11th 2012 @ 10:15am | Report comment
your right hoy. he scored his 50th try against the boks in 1992
May 11th 2012 @ 12:12pm
Jerry said | May 11th 2012 @ 12:12pm | Report comment
Incidentally in a combined 32 tests vs NZ & the B&I Lions Campo managed only 8 tries.
May 11th 2012 @ 12:15pm
mania said | May 11th 2012 @ 12:15pm | Report comment
but jerry – 64 tries. who else in modern day rugby can say the same?
May 11th 2012 @ 3:37pm
Jerry said | May 11th 2012 @ 3:37pm | Report comment
Asked and answered Mania – I was just responding to the bit about his tries not being against 2nd/3rd tier teams. In fact, he benefited a great deal from playing lesser teams when no other unions bar Australia were awarding test status to the likes of Japan, Tonga, Fiji, USA etc.
For the purposes of this article however, I believe David is meaning the 91 version of Campo, and I doubt anyone would have much hesitation making his name one of the first on the team sheet.
May 11th 2012 @ 9:09am
ohtani's jacket said | May 11th 2012 @ 9:09am | Report comment
Tune would have absolutely destroyed Campo. Campo would be no better than Quade Cooper in this era. I’m a huge fan of rugby history, taught Frank O’Keefe just about everything he knows about rugby and love watching and reading about the greats, but people are in complete denial if they think the amateur era guys would cut it against pros. Even if you follow Sheek’s argument about receiving the same training, etc., not all of the amateur greats would adapt or thrive in the present day system. Where Campo beats a guy like Tune is that he has a far greater legacy due to a more spectacular career, but in terms of physical skill Tune would steamroll Campese just as many of Campo’s opposite numbers did during his playing career, and Tune would at least have the notion that he should try to tackle Campo.
May 11th 2012 @ 9:56am
mania said | May 11th 2012 @ 9:56am | Report comment
no way OJ. quade is a wanna be and will never reach the heights and consistency that campo achieved. 64 tries. cant believe so many people are belittling campo’s contributions.
tune was a winger, campo was a a winger but was also a thinker
May 11th 2012 @ 10:38am
David Lord said | May 11th 2012 @ 10:38am | Report comment
Most of you knockers are missing the point. My XV was taken from the three teams named and the likes of Tune, Larkham, Roff, Kefu, and Burke among others mentioned were not in those teams. Pretty simple exercise if you stick to the guidelines.
May 11th 2012 @ 10:39am
ohtani's jacket said | May 11th 2012 @ 10:39am | Report comment
What does 64 tries have to do with anything? Campese played 101 tests in a 14 year test match career. A hundred tests is still a significant milestone in today’s game let alone in Campo’s era. Most wingers in the modern era do well to reach 50 tests.
We all know what Campese was capable of, but there’s no way he wouldn’t have been targeted in the modern game. He was being targeted in his prime. There’s no need to pretend that there weren’t flaws in his game.
May 11th 2012 @ 10:40am
ohtani's jacket said | May 11th 2012 @ 10:40am | Report comment
Well, Lord, the next time you’re banging on about the Wallabies being the second best side in the world we’ll remind you of how useless you think they are.
May 11th 2012 @ 10:49am
mania said | May 11th 2012 @ 10:49am | Report comment
oj – can u hear yourself ? “What does 64 tries have to do with anything?” its a record that has been unsurpassed. (bar the jap guy scoring 60 odd vs asian teams) since campo retired. considering that players these days are better conditioned, have more time on their hands to think solely about rugby and have more tests hence more opportunity to score tries. even cullen only got 46 tries.
i didnt say campo didnt have flaws. whose pretending?
campo was targetted in his day and still got 64 tries
wow 64 tries doesnt impress u? tough critic
May 11th 2012 @ 10:58am
ohtani's jacket said | May 11th 2012 @ 10:58am | Report comment
Cullen only played 58 tests. Scoring 46 tries in 58 tests is a wee bit more impressive than scoring 64 in 101.
May 11th 2012 @ 11:09am
mania said | May 11th 2012 @ 11:09am | Report comment
wow OJ i give up. u just a harsh critic. i think 64 tries is impressive considering it was during the amatuer era and no one in the top tier nations has been able to match it to this day almost 20 years later.
i agree cullen is a better player but then cullen was better than all backs not just campo
when i said “even cullen only got 46 tries.”
i should’ve said “even cullen the greatest try scorer and back of my era, only got 46 tries.”
May 11th 2012 @ 11:11am
Jerry said | May 11th 2012 @ 11:11am | Report comment
Mania
Modern wingers, SH ones anyway, have a shorter shelf life due to increased collisions etc and of course the NH club option that invariably cuts a few years off the end of a great SH player’s test career. If someone like Doug Howlett (49 tries from 62 tests) had stuck around in NZ he’d have broken that record most likely.
May 11th 2012 @ 11:39am
mania said | May 11th 2012 @ 11:39am | Report comment
jerry – i’m a big fan of howlett but i doubt he would’ve kept his wing spot for long. he’d already lost some pace, tho his work ethic and intelligence was immense
May 11th 2012 @ 11:44am
Jerry said | May 11th 2012 @ 11:44am | Report comment
The AB’s were persisting with hopelessly out of form Joe Rokocoko in 2009 and using wing converts like SBW and Kahui in the 2011 WC. I’d say Howlett would have been able to stick around long enough to pick up another 15 or so tries.
May 11th 2012 @ 11:47am
mania said | May 11th 2012 @ 11:47am | Report comment
true jerry – he might’ve taken kahui’s spot.
agree tho that if howlett (and cullen) had stayed they may have reached that milestone
which further supports the greatness of campo’s achievements.
May 13th 2012 @ 5:02pm
sheek said | May 13th 2012 @ 5:02pm | Report comment
OJ,
I have no idea what point you are trying to make. All, if not most of the greats had flaws in their game. You certainly suffer from a blighted hatred of certain sportsmen & identities.
Having flaws isn’t the problem, so long as the good far outweighs the bad.
If you’re going to start eliminating guys because of their flaws you might as well eliminate most of the greats.
On the other hand, there are plenty of rugby players who didn’t have any perceived flaws. That’s also because they lacked the courage to ever try anything.
Some of them probably spruik on The Roar…..
May 11th 2012 @ 8:39am
rob said | May 11th 2012 @ 8:39am | Report comment
Roff, Blades, Cobain…..