AFL’s late withdrawals annoying the fans
It’s no secret that over the past ten years the AFL has become exponentially more professional. Along with this has come the dramatic increase in gambling options and the surge in people playing fantasy games such as Dreamteam and Supercoach.
There is one thing that the people who play these fantasy games or who gamble on games rely on and that is knowing who is playing.
The AFL have rules around this very thing which require clubs to name their teams on a Thursday night and then for those playing Sunday to finalise their squad on Friday night.
Those in Fantasy Sports land need to set their teams before the first game and those that bet on games with multis need to assume that those teams are accurate to make their selections.
This is where things just fall apart! We get to 90 minutes before the game and suddenly that guy that has been fit and healthy all week has a hammy strain or a slight ankle sprain and is withdrawn from the game. How dumb do they think we are?
If they came out and said that the player had fallen over their own shoelaces and knocked themselves out in the rooms it would be more believable than some of the rubbish that gets served up.
A couple of weeks ago we saw Geelong talk all week about Joel Selwood and being cautious about his knock to the head, then on Thursday they name him. And surprise surprise on the Saturday he is withdrawn 90 minutes before the game. He was never going to play, so just tell us!
Who do they really think they are fooling? I mean there are eyes and ears everywhere. All teams have spies at opponents trainings and they aren’t even employed by them. Fans everywhere are tweeting and Facebooking players every moves.
Do they really think that opposition coaches don’t have plans for the stars playing or not playing? In this day and age they would have probably known before the player did that they wouldn’t be playing.
This is just one of the ways in which the AFL lets their most valuable resource, the fans, down. We all pay our hard earned cash to go along and see the stars play. This is particularly important to the newcomers to the game in Gold Coast and Greater Western Sydney who can’t afford to play their supporters for the fool or they will switch to another of the codes available in those areas.
Let’s just think about what would happen if this occurred in another sport. Can you imagine the uproar if you turned up to the Wimbledon final and 90 minutes before the game starts, after everyone is packed in, an announcement comes across the loudspeaker “Attention folks, unfortunately Rodger Federer has a slight ankle strain and will be replaced in today’s game by John Struggler”.
He and his doctor would probably have known at least a day before the game that he wouldn’t play. Do you think this would be acceptable to that crowd? No. So why do the AFL think it is ok for teams to treat their fans like that?
There is someone that is forgotten in all of this, there is a blatant disregard for the feelings of the player. Just think, his family have given up a day of gardening, shopping or just sitting home having a few drinks and made the way to the ground, only to find their son/brother/loved one has pulled out of the game and they have wasted their time and are watching a team they probably don’t even like that much.
The player themselves would have thought they would be playing, the doctor had given them the seal of approval and then they get told they are out. How devastating would that be?
Gone are the days where coaching cat and mouse needs to happen before the game starts. There are no secrets anymore.
So AFL clubs everywhere, I implore you, please treat us, the lovers of the game with some respect and tell us the truth.
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May 15th 2012 @ 8:46am
The Cattery said | May 15th 2012 @ 8:46am | Report comment
True, late withdrawals are hurting DT/SC followers, but look on the bright side, there aree so many late withdrawals, they are hurting everyone equally.
In all honesty, the last thing footy coaches should be worrying about is what keen DT/SC enthusiasts think.
May 15th 2012 @ 9:09pm
amazonfan said | May 15th 2012 @ 9:09pm | Report comment
And gamblers. Personally, the last people that I could care less about are gamblers, and in no way should the AFL impact the way coaches go about their business simply to help gamblers.
May 15th 2012 @ 9:35am
Peter Higginbotham said | May 15th 2012 @ 9:35am | Report comment
Some good points but do you really want to take away your team’s ability to play mind games with their opponent?
A gamble is simple that and Fantasy Football is fantasy, let’s not push to make this game even more sanitized.
May 15th 2012 @ 9:44am
mds1970 said | May 15th 2012 @ 9:44am | Report comment
My dream team got caught out a couple of weeks ago when Joel Selwood was a late withdrawal and my team lost by a point. But these things happen.
But seriously, the interests of fantasy players and gamblers is a very low priority. There are times when a player is carrying a niggle, the club physios are working on him in the hope of getting him up for game day – they name him in the team, but sometimes the player wakes up stiff and sore on game day and can’t play. And there’s the occasional mind games and teams playing silly-buggers, with teams trying to one-up each other.
Ultimately, the best interests of the teams, late injuries and psych games etc that they play; is much more important than gambling or fantasy leagues. If your dreamteam loses or you lose a bet, tough luck. Build a bridge and get over it.
May 15th 2012 @ 11:20am
Peter Care said | May 15th 2012 @ 11:20am | Report comment
You might say that, but the rules changed once the AFL accepted money from betting agencies. If the AFL did not receive a cent, then I agree with you, tough luck on the gamblers, however the AFL now receives money from the betting agencies and thus approves of the betting. Under these circumstances it is the AFL’s job to make sure the punters and bookmakers are all on an equal footing with information. They already sanction players for releasing information to selected gamblers without releasing to bookmakers or the general gambling community. Right now some gambers and some bookies are privy to these late changes, other are not. Frankly it is akin to listed Australian companies being privy to information which will affect their share price, and choosing not to release it to the market. If a company chose to do that, their directors would be sanctioned, and shareholders would commence class actions. It has happened to several listed companies. What is to stop gamblers doing the same thing, i.e suing the AFL and/or the clubs? As I said now that the AFL and clubs are receiving money from gamblers and bookmakers, the rules have changed.
May 15th 2012 @ 3:19pm
joe blackswan said | May 15th 2012 @ 3:19pm | Report comment
genuine question here :
does the AFL have a direct business relationship with any betting agencies?
I thought it was just individual AFL clubs and broadcasters.
May 15th 2012 @ 4:40pm
dunny said | May 15th 2012 @ 4:40pm | Report comment
No, the AFL does have corporate deals with the betting agencies. They recieve a piece of the pie from wagers on AFL games.
May 15th 2012 @ 11:40pm
mds1970 said | May 15th 2012 @ 11:40pm | Report comment
So the teams named on the Thursday night should always be locked in, no matter what?
In the case of Joel Selwood in that game a couple of weeks ago, the Cats knew it was a long shot that they could get him up for that game; but wanted to give him until game day to prove his fitness. Ultimately he couldn’t, and didn’t play. But should they have thrown in the towel on Thursday night, just for the sake of the gamblers?
And what if a player gets injured during the warm-up, or had a hamstring twinge when having a light run the day before a game? He’s no good to play, but should a team be banned from calling up one of their emergencies to replace him, just for the sake of the gamblers?
May 15th 2012 @ 9:59am
Ben said | May 15th 2012 @ 9:59am | Report comment
I agree with your sentiment but I think the players families would have a fair idea the players are out before game day, as would the players themselves.
May 15th 2012 @ 10:06am
Chris Chard said | May 15th 2012 @ 10:06am | Report comment
I hear you Dunny
Different sport I know, but if Paul Gallen had of played on the weekend for Cronulla in the NRL (after being ruled out, after he was initally named etc) I would have knee-capped him myself. Or at least cried myself to sleep anyway.
On a more serious note the naming and non playing of players only leaves the game open to inside betting scams etc
CC
May 15th 2012 @ 10:24am
Mark said | May 15th 2012 @ 10:24am | Report comment
This is what’s wrong with fans like you. If you want to bet on a game that’s fine, but don’t complain when they do something unexpected before or during a game that affects your betting. The coach doesn’t care about your bet, or your dream team, he only cares about his own team. If its within the rules, too bad.
May 15th 2012 @ 11:39am
BigAl said | May 15th 2012 @ 11:39am | Report comment
Exactly ! football has always been like this.
And, your Roger Federer… analogy is wildly innacurate.
That would be more akin to a Grand Final; Collingwood v Essendon; 98,000 people; – then YOUR anouncer comes along with his
“Attention folks, Collingwood will not be playing today…”
– . . . my God !!!!
May 15th 2012 @ 11:42am
dunny said | May 15th 2012 @ 11:42am | Report comment
Hi All,
Thanks for your feedback and comments.
I should have pointed out early on that this isn’t a dead serious piece, it is a Humour piece that is supposed to take a ligher look at the issues in Footy.
Cheers
May 15th 2012 @ 12:37pm
mds1970 said | May 15th 2012 @ 12:37pm | Report comment
Tennis is an individual sport. If Federer was injured, his opponent would win the final on a walkover.
May 15th 2012 @ 1:24pm
Dave said | May 15th 2012 @ 1:24pm | Report comment
I agree Dunny, it can be frustrating, but I also accept that if my team acts this way it’s more to play mind games with their opponent. Following the Dees and Lions means that I’m happy for the coach to try anything that means we might actually get a sniff. (wishful thinking I know).
The bigger issue here, and what I believe the AFL has really screwed up in their moneymaking quest, is the decision to name teams in the Channel 7 news bulletin. These teams come out extremely late (in QLD they aren’t even shown on channel 7 at all!) and there is very little room for explanation or discussion. I appreciate that this now has become part of the ‘rules’ of the game and that it is another way coaches can play mind games with their opponent as mentioned above, but it does treat the fan with a fair amount of disrespect. I shouldn’t have to search high and low to find out which players are going to be playing on the weekend.
A bloke at work is a mad NRL fan and sits combing his twitter/news feeds when teams come out on Tuesday….when the first game isn’t until Friday night! That’s a much better process because a player named on a Tuesday is never going to be 100% certainty for a Friday night game, but it is reasonable to think that if a player is named at 6:30 on a Thursday evening that he will be playing in 24 hours time.
July 20th 2012 @ 9:44pm
Ian said | July 20th 2012 @ 9:44pm | Report comment
How come Chris Judd got 4 weeks and such a light penalty