CAMPO: Will Deans change the style of the Wallabies play?
By David Campese, 16 May 2012 David Campese is a Roar Expert
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Wallaby Kurtley Beale speaks with teammate James O'Connor and coach Robbie Deans.
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It was pretty clear last year that the style of rugby Robbie Deans had the Wallabies playing didn’t work. So the big question is: will he be changing it in 2012?
Can Deans please let us know what style we’ll be playing? It’s not clear to Wallabies fans, but it needs to be known.
Looking at the players that Deans will have available, there is every reason to believe that he should take the team down a more attacking route, especially if the mercurial Kurtley Beale is selected at 10.
However, given his track record, this is probably wishful thinking.
Instead, Deans may use the first few Tests of the season to play safe and get his post-Quade combinations in place. And it’s fair to say that the cupboard in some positions is looking a little bare.
Looking at the backs, obviously Genia will be the halfback, even though he had a reasonably slow start to the Super Rugby season. He seems be to be hitting form at the right time.
But a few players are hot on his heels.
Outside of Genia, Deans may look at both O’Connor and Cooper. But really, why rush Quade when you have Beale more than capable of playing 10? He’s a great player.
But will Deans pick a player who can make anything happen?
And, as I’ve said a few times before, O’Connor is not a ten. He should never be picked there. He is a winger or a fullback. He needs room to operate in, rather than have to create space for those around him.
He can’t kick under pressure and he looks for work. Maybe we can see brand O’Connor at full-flight this season.
In the centres, Pat McCabe is not the answer. He cannot pass the ball. But then again, that may well suit the style of rugby that Deans want to play. Bash and crash, with very little flair and skill.
Deans needs to understand that Australian rugby is not All Black rugby. He has lost three years trying to play defensive rugby. Maybe he had no idea about the way we play.
If that’s the case, then he could well go with McCabe.
What we really need is a 13 who can create some space for Digby, who is a dynamic runner of the ball and he needs to get it more often.
That would shift Adam Ashley Cooper back to fullback, which is his best position.
If Drew Mitchell was fit and healthy, he’d be a certainty on the other wing. In his absence, there aren’t many decent alternatives.
Perhaps Rob Horne will get a go at 12, even though he is also not a creator. And of course, Mortlock is also back in the mix.
Barnes is the other option. He will fit in nicely, and he had a strong adviser in the great Tim Horan.
But it hardly looks like a backline that will worry the All Blacks or the Springboks, both of whom seem to be bursting with talent and depth.
I do think, though, that there are some good Australian forwards going around: Moore, Robinson, Hardy, and Slipper, who still has a way to go.
Higginbottom is playing well. He is a very good player. And Pocock’s one of the best.
The Wallabies could be competitive up front and lay a solid platform for the backs, which we have lacked over the years.
But I hope it’s not going to be a defensive game plan from Deans, like our Rugby World Cup campaign last year.
What a mess.
The other problem the team faces is the lack of depth. We really want players to put pressure on players for their position in the squad. At the moment, that’s just not the case.
And the Wallabies need to play as a team.
Last season, there were too many individuals and not enough unity. I’ve heard rumblings within the team that some of the players aren’t happy with Deans’ approach.
Deans has two years to go as Wallabies coach. Can he see the light and play our style of rugby?
The first Test of the season will be most interesting to watch and hopefully we can find the next star of Australian rugby.
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May 16th 2012 @ 6:44am
Moaman said | May 16th 2012 @ 6:44am | Report comment
Firstly; There is no certainty that KB will carry his recent good form at 10 onto the international stage where,as we all know,time and space is limited.Beale has looked extremely average more times at ten than anything else.
Secondly;Does Campo seriously expect an international coach to announce publicly——-no,surely not?
Thirdly; “Deans needs to understand that Australian rugby is not All Black rugby. He has lost three years trying to play defensive rugby. ” My ‘perception’ of this statement is that the ABs play “defensiive rugby”.A brief scroll through the stats will tell you which team scores the most tries in Test Rugby.I’m picking that team largely wears black.
May 16th 2012 @ 7:10am
Moaman said | May 16th 2012 @ 7:10am | Report comment
ps.Regarding ‘Point 3′. Australia’s “style of rugby” has seen them score a creditable 1394 tries in 452 Tests.Compare that to England,say,498 matches&1401 tries
RSA,,342 matches and 1137 tries or
NZ 441 games and 1654 tries. In fact,NZ has kicked more conversions than penalties in it’s history.I guess Campo needs to clarify what Australia’s “style” is;or does he mean the “latest style” or the ‘style’ that was in vogue when he was running around?
May 16th 2012 @ 7:19am
yoto said | May 16th 2012 @ 7:19am | Report comment
He simply means what type of game are we playing. Last year the Wallabies were all over the shop. It’s not that complicated.?
May 16th 2012 @ 7:57am
Turnover said | May 16th 2012 @ 7:57am | Report comment
KB was heavily criticised and looked out of place during his final stint at 10 for the Tahs…..
People might feel KB has the pressure of carrying a team in Melbourne. To me KB, has a free pass, he gets to have a go, without having to worry about the consequences. Yes, he is going well at the moment but that’s because he gets free reign and if the a rebels lose, no one will notice because it’s expected. Playing for the Wallabies at 10, there will be pressure, and heaps of it. I doubt he can handle that, or deliver the quality of play required. He’s possibly the best 15 in the world, keep him there.
May 16th 2012 @ 1:22pm
B-Rock said | May 16th 2012 @ 1:22pm | Report comment
Absolutely right Turnover
Why do Wallabies supporters look to strong running outside backs to move into 10 – the skill and mind set is completely different from the back three to the halves. These major positional switches rarely work and is clearly not as simple as changing the number on the jumper. How many times has KB struggled at 10? not just for the Tahs I might add. He is a top 3 FB in the world, and an average at best 10.
For mine the criticism of Barnes is overdone – he remains a quality 10, should be the first choice in QCs absence. The back line below is hardly in form but is not too far below the ABs and Boks. The problems arise when injuries occur and we are reliant on young kids with little SR let alone test experience or one dimensional players like McCabe/A.Faingaa
9 Genia
10 BB (assuming QC is not ready – if he is, put BB to bench)
11 Digby
12 Taps
13 AAC
14 JOC (will he be fit? – if not throw a young speedster in there)
15 KB
Bench – McKibbin or Phipps, Horne or BB (if QC is fit
May 16th 2012 @ 1:56pm
RebelRanger said | May 16th 2012 @ 1:56pm | Report comment
Agree regarding your views on KB and general switches betwen outside backs and halves.
Although I would have to disagree that your lineup is far below an All Black one and I’m not too sure about the Boks with their new coach.
May 16th 2012 @ 2:55pm
rl said | May 16th 2012 @ 2:55pm | Report comment
agree with your general thrust B-Rock. Paul Cully sparked a very interesting debate about the merits or otherwise of switching Beale.
Also agree that, for all his detractors, Barnes has at least got good recent form in the S15, and his most recent performances in the gold jersey have been very solid. So he’s a good low risk option – might not get everyone’s juices flowing, but in the context of injuries to other credible contenders (Cooper questionable for now, CL gone) he’s prob our best bet.
Unfortunately Taps is not a show for June. In that case, the low risk option again is probably the improved-formula McCabe. I’d take that even further to suggest that you’d go with McCabe and possibly Smith in the centres, to keep that established Brumbies combination going. AAC is a great player, and has previously shown his versatility and ability to shift positions and perform. But his form has been scratchy this year. And I think Barnes is talented enough to adapt his game to the Brumbies style of play.
And agree, assuming no JOC it might be a good time to unleash one of the youth brigade.
McKibbin/Phipps/White (or maybe Lucas?), AAC and maybe Mogg on the bench as a result of all that I reckon. Horne just hasn’t shown enough this year – in flashes yes, but not consistently.
I assume this is your suggested lineup for 1st test v Wales? It all becomes good food for thought when you throw in the Scotland test doesn’t it?
May 16th 2012 @ 3:39pm
Turnover said | May 16th 2012 @ 3:39pm | Report comment
Barnes is doing enough and if he has KB at 15 and Digby around, he’ll deliver.
In terms of AAC, I have always been such a fan but he has suffered greatly from his own versatility. I think it’s time he is overlooked until he performs consistently in 1 position throughout a season. I realise this is probably out of his hands though.
I am happy to push for Smith at 13 but i realise a Barnes, McCabe, Smith back line doesn’t really strike fear into the opposition. But it”s not like a Cruden, Carter, Smith does either….
Nic White is looking the goods.
9. Genia
10. Barnes
11. Digby
12. McCabe
13. Smith
14. JOC
15. KB
20. White
21. Lucas
22. Mogg
May 16th 2012 @ 4:50pm
Justin2 said | May 16th 2012 @ 4:50pm | Report comment
No White? He has been the best 9 in AUS this year week to week. McKibbin is nowhere near it except his GKing and Horne has done as much as I have…BB not for me, Lucas has the better all round game IMO.
May 16th 2012 @ 12:46pm
LeftArmSpinner said | May 16th 2012 @ 12:46pm | Report comment
I agree with most of that Moaman. Deans is not silly.
However, with a reasonable forward pack, good openside flankers in Pocock and hooper together with hodgson, with faingaa coming through with Jenkins and later mcCutcheon, the pack is good. Dennis has to be in there somewhere as does Mowen. Crowded is good. As campo says, lots of competition for positions.
Genia, ioane, OConnor, and beale pick themselves. Barnes, AAC, Cooper, mCCabe faingaa, Horne, mitchell and later tapuai, give the selectors options. The youngsters to emerge include Mogg, Harris, Lucas, Lachie Mitchell, Andrew smith (even tho he is a late bloomer) and shipperley and even Brumbies Tomane should all get a go at some time.
As for McCabe, he can pass, just ask andrew smith.
The half backs start with mcKibbin as back up 9 and goal kicker and nic white or Phipps.
Depth, plenty. Just give me a go, give them a clear playing strategy and understanding of what’s required find then get out iof the way.
May 16th 2012 @ 1:06pm
kingplaymaker said | May 16th 2012 @ 1:06pm | Report comment
LAS ‘even’ Tomane? Who is manifestly more talented than Mogg, Harris, Lucas, Mitchell, A.Smith put together? AAC and Faingaa give the selectors appalling options.
The pack is not in any way significantly better than the one that was repeatedly demolished by the All Blacks last year, let alone ‘good’. Some realism would be good instead of dreamy hope.
May 16th 2012 @ 1:23pm
jeznez said | May 16th 2012 @ 1:23pm | Report comment
KPM, the AB’s without Thorn and Kaino are not as strong as they were.
Robinson missed the internationals last year and will improve us.
There is greater competition for the second row with Simmons, Pyle, Neville, Jones, Timani, Douglas and Lynn all vying for that second spot. This is quite apart from the evergreen Sharpe and the potential that Vickerman may return.
Pocock has back up in Hooper and Gill.
Higginbotham is in better form than last year with pressure coming from Mowen and Dennis. Rocky is a long way down the pecking order.
Number 8 remains a question mark – although Palu is in better form his work rate does not compare to Read.
I think the gap between the forward packs has shrunk.
May 16th 2012 @ 1:41pm
Kuruki said | May 16th 2012 @ 1:41pm | Report comment
Brodie Retallick is a ready made replacement for Brad Thorn. Look at the grunt he has added to the Chiefs pack, his absence was massively noticeable when they rested him. His work rate is second to none and he is the biggest man in New Zealand rugby, with a small mention that he smashed Brad Thorns beep test record. The only thing he will be lacking is exp. Jerome Kaino is a huge loss but the development of Victor Vito has come along way, he is now a true leader of a young Canes pack and his work rate is huge. He will step up and fill those shoes by years end.
May 16th 2012 @ 2:01pm
jeznez said | May 16th 2012 @ 2:01pm | Report comment
Kuruki, those two do look the two most likely. I’m sure they will both step up although I doubt they will match the two they are replacing by year end – big shoes to fill.
And that is all I am saying to KPM – he has referred to the fact that the Wallaby pack was repeatedly demolished by the AB’s last year. And it was.
The scrum dominance of the Crusaders is not was it was without Thorn and he and Kaino were two hard hitters around the field and in the breakdown. All I’m pointing to is a closing of the gap.
The scrums will be interesting – the Tahs have had the strongest scrum of all Super sides this season. Barring injury in the front row then I think it might finally be a year where we can declare that Aussie scrummaging is back. Robinson, Moore and Palmer with TPN and Kepu on the bench has me in a highly anticipatory mode.
Lots of work needed at the breakdown by the Wallabies – although the Reds second half performance on the weekend was promising. 80 minutes of that in the face of the Highlanders in Round 20 might be a bigger test.
May 16th 2012 @ 3:14pm
rl said | May 16th 2012 @ 3:14pm | Report comment
Re Retallick – the Chiefs young locks have both been consistently excellent all year but went MIA last weekend against a possible test combo of Horwill and Simmons. The latter have been MIA for most of the year, but certainly lifted last weekend, and look at the outcome. I reckon it was a critical factor in the Chiefs loss. Retallick will be better for the experience though.
May 17th 2012 @ 12:56am
MYOB said | May 17th 2012 @ 12:56am | Report comment
@ Jezenz good summary of our scrums but its alot more than just the props, we also need hardcore locks (sounds like a porn movie)……lol, we need strong pushing locks in the scrums/mauls yet athletic in the lineouts and fit enough to run around the paddock for the entire 80mins, the scrum is a 5men machine, if they are that good then the pressure will be off of our looseforwards esp the #8, Horwill will be selected and i think we have other good options in Douglass, Pyle, Neville, Carter and Fardy.
May 17th 2012 @ 3:07pm
jeznez said | May 17th 2012 @ 3:07pm | Report comment
MYOB, I believe it is the full 8 but yes the tight 5 have th biggest influence. I’m not sure who will partner Horwill yet, I think you can add Sitaleki Timani, Luke Jones and Toby Lynn to the list along with those youv’e named and the incumbent Simmons.
However these are all young guys and none of them has shown the complete package yet. Couple of games left before we have to decide – I will be watching the locks with great interest from here on out.
May 16th 2012 @ 6:46am
Red Kev said | May 16th 2012 @ 6:46am | Report comment
Yes Deans screwed the pooch tactically with playing style last year but …
I think McCabe has been playing much better at 12 this year and is worth another shot; if he keeps improving I may even forgive Robbie Deans for his inept RWC performance as coach. The 13 choice for mine is obvious, Ben Tapuai is the best natural centre Australia has by a considerable margin, shame he’s injured for the June tests. As for 14 without James O’Connor or Drew Mitchell, I think Tomane and Shipperley should be the front-runners – both have gas and a good tackle.
I agree with the thrust of the article though – Deans needs to let the Wallabies attack, and thanks to injuries the cupboard is pretty bare when it comes to putting together a threatening backline.
I read the “All Black” rugby comment as moving away from traditional Wallaby strengths (i.e. skills executed at speed with accuracy) towards power – i.e. selecting Timani, continually overlooking Sharpe, persisting with the ponderous Elsom. But that is a notion I have personally and not something Campo wrote.
May 16th 2012 @ 7:26am
mania said | May 16th 2012 @ 7:26am | Report comment
deans does need to shoulder a lot of the blame but so too do the players. deans is responsible for the game plan, startegy and selections. the players are reponsible for the tactics and execution on the field.
all good ask deans to deliver as he’s at the top of the pyramid but the players have to step up and perform as well
May 16th 2012 @ 7:43am
Justin2 said | May 16th 2012 @ 7:43am | Report comment
I have no doubt we will see some strange selections for the first two tests this year. I am actually going to give Deans a a bit of leeway first up as it is an awkward start to the year. There are guys injured and coming back from injury around the time of the Tests.
Tests 2 and 3 v Wales will show which direction he is looking to take this team this year and beyond. Right now its hard to know who is going to be available and who is not.
May 16th 2012 @ 3:19pm
rl said | May 16th 2012 @ 3:19pm | Report comment
Yeah, test 1a & 1b make it interesting to say the least. Who would want to be a selector? The loss against Samoa seemed to echo through the rest of our international campaign last year, does a possible loss to Scotland present similar consequences?
May 16th 2012 @ 7:49am
Platten said | May 16th 2012 @ 7:49am | Report comment
Campo is referring to crash and bash being more an all blacks style, not defensive.
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May 16th 2012 @ 8:03am
mania said | May 16th 2012 @ 8:03am | Report comment
platten – “crash and bash being more an all blacks style” thats sooo wrong .
May 16th 2012 @ 8:16am
Sailosi said | May 16th 2012 @ 8:16am | Report comment
Best 22
1. B. Robinson
2. S. Moore
3. S. Kepu
4. H. Pyle
5. J. Horwill
6. S. Higginbotham
7. D. Pocock
8. J. Schatz
9. W. Genia
10. Q. Cooper
11. D. Ioane
12. C. L’fano
13. B. Tapuai
14. J. O’connor
15. K. Beale
16. T. P-Nau
17. D. Palmer
18. L. Jones
19. L. Gill
20. R. Kingi
21. B. Barnes
22. P. McCabe
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May 16th 2012 @ 10:59am
jameswm said | May 16th 2012 @ 10:59am | Report comment
Pyle at 4? Schatz ahead of Palu and Vaea?
I quite like the backline though. Just a shame that 4 of them are injured.
May 16th 2012 @ 11:32am
Behold said | May 16th 2012 @ 11:32am | Report comment
Woah Shatz? Come on be serious. Mowen perhaps. QC hasn’t even played this year and he was craptacular in the World Cup. J O’Connor never was a winger, he is a 10, 12 15. Tapuai is an inside centre Jones is going better than Pyle currently. Lucas is a better utility than Kingi but Kingi is improving. McCabe isn’t explosive enough to be a great outside back bench player. Hodgson is a good bench player since he plays every position in the backrow. Haven’t watched much of Palmer but if he can’t play both sides of the scrum he can’t be the bench prop, cause Robinson and Kepu can’t swap sides.
May 16th 2012 @ 12:09pm
Red Kev said | May 16th 2012 @ 12:09pm | Report comment
Cooper is playing this week against the Lions.
Tapuai plays both 12 and 13 and his game at 13 has come on a lot this year – in my opinion he’s easily Australia’s best in either position, it is just a question of who you partner him with.
Agree that Schatz isn’t ready – that is really a left field call. Higginbotham-Pocock-Palu seems most likely.
Slipper is probably the bench prop since he can play either side with Kepu or Palmer to start at tighthead. Alexander is behind Slipper in the pecking order for my money..
May 16th 2012 @ 1:23pm
Behold said | May 16th 2012 @ 1:23pm | Report comment
If Taps wasn’t injured he would be the Wallabies inside centre with out a doubt he was outstanding for the Reds before he got injured. I think he has to be at Inside because if we play a Barnes/JOC/Beale/Cooper pairing at fly and inside we will have the smallest centres in world rugby and there is no way you would play AAC or McCabe or Horne inside Tapuai
I am still not convinced with Palu, he does some awesome things but then goes missing for the rest of the game. I think Dennis deserves a shot if Higgers continues to improve at 8 for the Reds. If Higgers plays blindside I would be playing Mowen a no nonsense player who will be in everything but doesn’t have the bells and whistles to his play that someone like Palu does but at least everyone knows Mowen is going to give it his all the entire game. I think it will also be Slipper on the bench and Kepu to start.
May 16th 2012 @ 1:25pm
jeznez said | May 16th 2012 @ 1:25pm | Report comment
I actually think Kepu for the bench with TPN behind the starting FR of Robinson, Moore and Palmer. I agree that Slipper is ahead of Alexander. I think Holmes is as well.
May 16th 2012 @ 1:48pm
Red Kev said | May 16th 2012 @ 1:48pm | Report comment
I think Kepu has been outplaying Palmer this year though. of course with the new rules for 8 bench players just have all 4 in the game day team.
May 16th 2012 @ 2:05pm
jeznez said | May 16th 2012 @ 2:05pm | Report comment
Kepu has been good – is certainly the stronger prop with ball in hand. I think Palmer has the goods at scrum time though.
Certainly having the tackling and running of TPN and Kepu coming on late could swing a game, Slipper as the fourth prop makes sense to me – although why it is needed is beyond me, uncontested scrums are relatively rare under the current rules.
I see this bringing the Ollie Le Roux type player back into the game – huge man without the fitness levels to compete for 80 but able to come on and play a high impact game in a short spurt.
May 16th 2012 @ 4:53pm
Justin2 said | May 16th 2012 @ 4:53pm | Report comment
Pretty good side overall, might lack a ball runner off the bench though. I would remove Schatz, have Higgers 8 and Dennis 6 with a Palu type on the bench. White over Kingi, there are enough “tools” in the team already, though I do like Kingi (he gets mucked around in Melbourne though).
May 16th 2012 @ 8:24am
Shungmao said | May 16th 2012 @ 8:24am | Report comment
I think the wallabies forawrds look in great shape and our previous set piece issues are becoming less of a concern. In the backs I must say I am sweating a few bullets, especially at 12 & 13. For me it’s not just a skill concern but its a vision, speed, explosiveness & size (don’t just compare weight) one, we tend to have centers that don’t spike across these areas but demonstrate only one maybe 2, where as the likes of AB’s & SA fair better:
Skill. Speed. Vision. Explosiveness. Size
Pat McCabe No. No. No. Yes. Yes
A. Fainnga. No. No. No. Yes. No
B.barnes. Yes. No. Yes. No. No
AAC. No. Yes. No. No. No
R.horne No. Yes. No. Yes. No
M.harris. Yes. No. No. No. No
SBW. Yes. No. Yes. Yes. Yes
M. Nonu. Yes. No. Yes. Yes. Yes
C.Smith. Yes. Yes. Yes. No. No
As for 10, I agree with Campo, play O’Connor on the wing, he can rove and use the sideline to help his defense. For me Beale isn’t the answer but the current best option.
May 16th 2012 @ 8:32am
Moaman said | May 16th 2012 @ 8:32am | Report comment
Interesting.Why are you so bullish about the front row,Shungmao,I’d be interested to know?.It appears to me that whilst there seems to be plenty of good options in the back 5…scrummaging still remains an arguable Achille’s Heel.
May 16th 2012 @ 8:40am
Red Kev said | May 16th 2012 @ 8:40am | Report comment
I don’t think it’s arguable Moaman, you’re dead right- scrummaging has been a big problem for the Wallabies since 2003.
May 16th 2012 @ 8:40am
Shungmao said | May 16th 2012 @ 8:40am | Report comment
Moaman, just to be clear ” less of a concern” not, no concern. However Kepu, Robinson and Slipper are scrummaging better ( more consistently) than last year. Moore has thrown less meatpies at lineout time and we should have 4 genuine line out jumpers in most instances.
May 16th 2012 @ 8:55am
Moaman said | May 16th 2012 @ 8:55am | Report comment
We all saw how the Chiefs’ game unravelled when they lost 3 lineouts in a row on top of some scrum penalties(v Reds) so Set-Piece is as important as it always was. I see the IRB are going to introduce an 8th man on the substitutes’ bench from next year and that he will be a specialist front-rower.So the days of the Wallabies having to gamble on a 5-2 split to cover short-comings (my perception
) are coming to a close.
May 16th 2012 @ 9:07am
Shungmao said | May 16th 2012 @ 9:07am | Report comment
Agree, but I must say an 8th sub is a load of B/S, it adds no value in my view, just adds to the cost of another jersey. The good sides with use the extra man not as a prop sub but as a ball running loose forward who will be a komacazi for the first 30 min, Ita Vea style. We will see a few more rugby union versions of Manly’s George Rose.
May 16th 2012 @ 1:50pm
Kuruki said | May 16th 2012 @ 1:50pm | Report comment
The extra spot must be used by a specialist front rower. I think it has been introduced to stop a game turning into golden oldies and will also stop teams from faking an injury to bring back on a starting prop after they have given them a breather.
May 16th 2012 @ 1:24pm
Denby said | May 16th 2012 @ 1:24pm | Report comment
I am reasonably bullish about the scrum. Kepu, Robinson, TPN, Moore, Palmer and Slipper are all doing okay. The Waratahs scrum had a slight edge over the Crusaders which is basically the AB’s scrum. It is at least going to give us a solid platform from which we can unleash our backs.
May 16th 2012 @ 3:59pm
Brett McKay said | May 16th 2012 @ 3:59pm | Report comment
Shung, that was crying out for a “No No No No No” assessment somehwere, surely. Missed opportunity…
May 16th 2012 @ 4:04pm
Red Kev said | May 16th 2012 @ 4:04pm | Report comment
Tom Carter springs to mind as fulfilling that requirement Brett
May 16th 2012 @ 6:45pm
Shungmao said | May 16th 2012 @ 6:45pm | Report comment
Brett , purposely left a player out, can of worms I wasn’t up for this morning…..
May 16th 2012 @ 6:56pm
Brett McKay said | May 16th 2012 @ 6:56pm | Report comment
yeah, fair call in hindsight..
May 16th 2012 @ 9:06am
Happy Hooker said | May 16th 2012 @ 9:06am | Report comment
Sorry, why does the style of play “need to be known”?
So CAMPO can criticise it now instead of waiting until the matches are actually played?
May 16th 2012 @ 9:16am
Orpheus said | May 16th 2012 @ 9:16am | Report comment
Big risk if JOC plays on the wing in the 2nd and/or 3rd test. The offensive punt from Hook to North (6 feet 4) – who can and has played either left or right wing – and Cuthbert (6 feet 6) will be an obvious tactic and will need a fullback – probably AAC – as extra cover against it.
Mitchell’s no giant either. Shipperley may get the nod.
May 16th 2012 @ 11:01am
jameswm said | May 16th 2012 @ 11:01am | Report comment
I’d back JOC overall to kill North
May 16th 2012 @ 1:05pm
stu said | May 16th 2012 @ 1:05pm | Report comment
JOC may fare as well as Campo did against Lomu – North is very good both as an attacker and a defender. JOC will have his work cut out, if he is back to health.
May 16th 2012 @ 9:18am
kingplaymaker said | May 16th 2012 @ 9:18am | Report comment
Normally I agree with Campo but here I largely part company: one can’t write an article saying that none of the players these days would make it in one’s own age, identifying a massive decline in the quality of players produced, and then blame it on the coach. Even within this article Campo points out there are no good candidates beyond the injured Mitchell and that there is no depth. Indeed there is no depth, but hardly even in the starting XV let alone elsewhere.
Deans’ gameplan has been enterprising and where not, due to an inability of the available players to execute it. He began coaching with a more purely attacking ‘play what’s in front of you’ approach but it quickly became evident this would not work with the low quality Australian attacking players. Is Anthony Faiingaa supposed to score length of the field tries?
If has-beens such as AAC and Mortlock are being mentioned by Campo in conjunction with the non ‘creator’ Horne, then how desperate are things? Compare this to the All Blacks who are able to LEAVE OUT of their 35 man squad Andre Taylor, Robbie Fruean, Rene Ranger and Hosea Gear and you see the massive gulf in cattle.
Again, it’s the cattle, not the coach. Deans will have to look with all his imagination and a fine comb in order to find enough talent to even hope to compete with the All Blacks.
May 16th 2012 @ 3:43pm
Denby said | May 16th 2012 @ 3:43pm | Report comment
KPM,
I do not think it is the cattle.
The AB’s left out Andre Taylor because he is to new. If he is still kiling it next year maybe.
Robbie Fruean is good but has limitations at the moment
Rene Range is inconsistent at the best of times but horribly out of form at the moment. I would not even pick him in the Wallabys squad.
Hosea Gear that is a bit tough but some good players are always left out of the squad.