Predictions of Geelong’s demise are dead set wrong
By Michael DiFabrizio, 16 May 2012 Michael DiFabrizio is a Roar Expert
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Jimmy Bartel against Daniel Kerr in the 2011 finals (Slattery Images)
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All of us have at some point in the last six years written Geelong off. For some, the “end of the era” was after the 2008 Grand Final.
For others, it was during St Kilda’s unbeaten run in 2009.
For others, myself included, it was the end of 2010, after Gary Ablett and Mark Thompson departed.
For David King, it was late in the home and away season last year.
And now, it’s after the Cats have started the season 4-3 – a winning record, but outside the eight at this point for the first time since 2006 – that people are at it again.
“It’s a thing called hunger. Have the Geelong side got the hunger now to go through the process of all the hardships you need to display on a football field?” asked Mick Malthouse.
“Commentators are too scared to say it, the press is too scared to write it, and Cats fans are too scared to ask it. Has the empire crumbled?” wondered Mark Robinson.
“The perceived and imagined cracks of early last season have been more blatant through the early phases of this,” wrote Gerard Whateley, a Geelong supporter no less.
Of course, the great irony in all this is that this week’s premiership favourite, Hawthorn, are in the exact same position as Geelong. 4-3, outside the eight.
But let’s not bring into question the bizarre obsession with one-game trends and instead take a deeper look at the Cats and why they might have dropped three games.
When Chris Scott interviewed for the Geelong coaching gig, part of his plan was to play four players with 50 games or less experience in every 2011 game.
At that point in time, “playing the kids” seemed code for “the beginning of the slide”. But Scott’s plan proved to be a masterstroke. It made guys like Mitch Duncan, Trent West, Daniel Menzel and Allen Christensen go from unknowns to genuine best 22 material.
It also meant he had much fresher senior players by September, as they were rested more frequently during the season.
Ultimately, as we now know, Scott’s plan worked really, really well. What’s being forgotten at the moment is that he’s at it again.
Steven Motlop and Cameron Guthrie have played every game this year. Taylor Hunt, Billie Smedts, Jesse Stringer and Tom Gillies have all played at least four. Mitch Brown, Orren Stephenson and George Horlin-Smith have had a couple of runs.
Against Adelaide on the weekend, six Cats players had not featured in a premiership. There was a 1200-odd differential in games between that side and the 2011 Grand Final side, according to Geelong Advertiser scribe Nick Wade.
Meanwhile, the guns get rested. “They were both a bit sore,” was the excuse football manager Neil Balme gave for Jimmy Bartel and Matthew Scarlett missing last week’s game.
Joel Selwood and Tom Lonergan are others that have missed a game already. James Kelly has sat out two. Injured players are eased back in at a snail’s pace.
It’s a sound, proven strategy. However, the major consequence of it is that it makes them susceptible against teams like Fremantle, North Melbourne and Adelaide, sides short of the elite that manage to get themselves up against a big club.
The same thing happened last year with Geelong losing to Essendon, West Coast and Sydney.
History says those results didn’t affect their ability to stand up when it mattered, or against the clubs that were genuine chances to go all the way. The Cats won all three of their finals and all three of their games against Hawthorn and Collingwood in the regular season.
The only worry is that this year, there’s even more teams in that below-elite bracket, and some teams are hinting that they are ready to step up. That means the Cats will be tested more often, and finishing top four won’t be the cakewalk it has been in recent years.
But one thing is for sure: the Geelong side you see in September will have a very different look and feel about it to the one you see now.
We know because it happened last year.
The kids will have either sunk or still be swimming. The guns will be ready. There are injured players due back well before then, too (Travis Varcoe, David Wojcinski, Menzel, Dawson Simpson).
Writing off Geelong before we know what the real Geelong looks like, in a season as crazy as this one, is foolish.
Michael DiFabrizio is completing his journalism degree. As an AFL writer, he has been an expert columnist at The Roar since 2009, and appeared in The Age and on ABC television and radio. Follow Michael on twitter @mdifabrizio
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May 16th 2012 @ 2:18am
Steve said | May 16th 2012 @ 2:18am | Report comment
Hope you’re right!
May 16th 2012 @ 7:35am
Fussballs AFL tracking spreadsheet said | May 16th 2012 @ 7:35am | Report comment
Sorry Michael but you’re completely wrong: It’s entirely appropriate to write off Geelong because they are well and truly done. It’s not the fact they’ve lost a few games, it’s how they’ve lost them. Beaten by a very ordinary North Melbourne side and thrashed by Adelaide, even their wins have been pretty mediocre.
Geelong’s 2011 flag = Hawthorn’s 1991 flag; the last gasp of a great team.
May 16th 2012 @ 9:50am
The Cattery said | May 16th 2012 @ 9:50am | Report comment
It’s starting to look that way, good comparison, being premiership contenders across a five year period is pretty good, very hard to do, unrealistic to expect any team can continue at that level.
May 16th 2012 @ 8:26am
Me too said | May 16th 2012 @ 8:26am | Report comment
Too early to call. It’s a fickle year. Right now, going by the latest TheAge’ poll St Kilda are overwhelming favorites (22% of over 4700) with Collingwood a distant second (14%). Last week the Saints wouldn’t have been considered. Next week who knows which team will impress.
It’s a great year, and no doubt Geelong are not the dominant force we know. But I wouldn’t discount them at all. It’s down to whoever finds their form at the right time, so long as they find it early enough to finish in the top four.
May 16th 2012 @ 8:56am
GrantS said | May 16th 2012 @ 8:56am | Report comment
Although I agree that it is too early to write ANY of the top contenders of this early I believe Geelong supporters have some real worries.
As already pointed out their losses this year have been to middle of the pack teams and their wins have not been that great.
They seem slow and we really have to question whether the desire is still there in some of their “older” players. Last year they were 7-0 at this stage and their defense was best in the competition. This year they are 4-3 and their defense is 11th in the comp. This year they have allowed 630 points to be scored against them in 7 games. Last year they only had 626 points scored against them in the first TEN games. A huge difference.
SO yes, it is too early to write them off because we know they have responded in the past, but I’d rather be the Essendon fan that I am than a Geelong supporter in terms of premiership contention in 2012.
May 16th 2012 @ 9:16am
Macca said | May 16th 2012 @ 9:16am | Report comment
This year it is pretty clear that no one is at the level we have come to expect from a “premiership favourite” over the past couple of years and there are plenty of teams who could “pinch” a premiership this year. Collingwood Geeolong and St Kilda are all less than what they have been in recent years but all still more than capable of winning big games if they get their best side on the park. West Coast has been cripple by injury but will win enough gamse to keep it around the top 4 and who knows from there. Carlton under normal circumstances would be a year away from being a real premiership contender but with some luck with injuries could be a threat, the Hawks still ahev the great ball use and agression but are they quick enough and is the tough start masking something more. I don’t rate Essendon’s list as highly as some others but the keep winning games and then there is Adelaide who just keep winning and have a potent forward line and an emerging midfield.
So what are we up to 8 and we still haven’t mentioned Freo, Richmond, North of the Bulldogs who are pushing for the top 8.
Writing anyone off this season (with the obvious exceptions) is a big risk.
May 16th 2012 @ 9:36am
Matt F said | May 16th 2012 @ 9:36am | Report comment
There seems to be a new favourite every week. Clearly Geelong aren’t not as dominant as they have been but it’s way too early to dismiss them as a contender.
A premiership isn’t won in April or May. It’s won by doing enough to make the Top 4 and then hitting top form in September.
When you think about it, the question that we should be asking at this stage of the season isn’t “can Team X win the premiership” but “can Team X make the Top 4.”
May 16th 2012 @ 9:44am
Macca said | May 16th 2012 @ 9:44am | Report comment
Very True Matt F but this year I don’t think that is very easy, I named 8 and forgot to list the Swans so you could make a case for 9 teams who thnk they are a top 4 chance and at least one of them won’t make the finals.
And I wouldn’t be shocked if this is the year somenone from outside that top 4 wins the thing, especially if they finish the season with a full list and momentum.
May 16th 2012 @ 9:51am
The Cattery said | May 16th 2012 @ 9:51am | Report comment
It’s that sort of year.
Only one team in the history of the AFL has ever won the flag from outside the top 4: Adelaide in 1998.
It’s unlikely, but this season presents the best chance we’ve seen for a long, long time.
May 16th 2012 @ 9:56am
Nathan of Perth said | May 16th 2012 @ 9:56am | Report comment
Yeah, but no one from this finals system that I know of.
May 16th 2012 @ 9:59am
Macca said | May 16th 2012 @ 9:59am | Report comment
I can’t remember a year in the history of the AFL where it was as wide open as this. generally three has been a couple of dominant teams, Especially in the last decade.
May 16th 2012 @ 10:01am
The Cattery said | May 16th 2012 @ 10:01am | Report comment
I’ve sort of touched on that this morning:
http://www.theroar.com.au/2012/05/16/the-most-even-afl-season-in-years/
May 16th 2012 @ 2:53pm
Pope Paul VII said | May 16th 2012 @ 2:53pm | Report comment
Oh god did you have to bring that up? Still trying to forget
May 16th 2012 @ 10:21am
Matt F said | May 16th 2012 @ 10:21am | Report comment
I think that finishing in the Top 2 is going to be very important. Given the fact that the competition is so even and that WC, Adelaide and Sydney could all potentially be in and around the Top 4, home ground advantage could very well be the deciding factor, especially if a finals match is between two teams from different states.
May 16th 2012 @ 10:26am
Macca said | May 16th 2012 @ 10:26am | Report comment
Matt – I am a blues supporter so after 3 years of getting knocked out of the finals by less than a goal playing interstate you don’t have to tell me how important home finals are!!
May 16th 2012 @ 10:30am
Matt F said | May 16th 2012 @ 10:30am | Report comment
Yeah that final at ANZ was very sweet for us Swans fans! It’s just a shame that we haven’t gotten close to you lot since!
May 16th 2012 @ 1:51pm
TomC said | May 16th 2012 @ 1:51pm | Report comment
Seven points in 2009, I believe.
Who would’ve imagined back then that all the Blues needed to do to shoot past the Lions was trade them their best forward?
May 16th 2012 @ 10:39am
brendan said | May 16th 2012 @ 10:39am | Report comment
You may be right Micheal that it is unwise to write off Geelong.The loser of this weeks game is going to cop alot of flak.I do think that the side that has played this year isn’t as good as years gone by but the cats could have up to six different players in the team come September.If you recall last year Collingwood were unbackable favourites to win the flag and many scribes were writing articles about how unfair the handover from Malthouse to Buckley was yet Collingwood had an average final series and probably should not have made the G/F.
May 16th 2012 @ 11:30am
TomC said | May 16th 2012 @ 11:30am | Report comment
Hard to think of a parallel to this Adelaide loss, though.
I guess what most concerns me is that a lot of the reasons that people have written off Geelong in the past (and it wasn’t always idiots) seem to be more evident now. It’s hard to imagine players like Chapman, Enright or Corey ever recapturing their previous form, and while Motlop, West and Hawkins are having very good seasons as a whole the younger players aren’t really filling the breach as quickly as they need. Plus, Stokes and Johnson are providing much less around goal.
I don’t think Varcoe, Woja, Menzel and Simpson makes up a particularly crippling injury list, when compared to other contenders like Essendon and West Coast.
May 16th 2012 @ 11:43am
Macca said | May 16th 2012 @ 11:43am | Report comment
Bartell and Scarlett were missing from Saturday’s team as well and the big thing that Woja (I won’t try to spell it either) & Varcoe add is pace and in a team of olders players like Geelong pace is very important.
May 16th 2012 @ 1:59pm
sheek said | May 16th 2012 @ 1:59pm | Report comment
What I find amusing, or bemusing, is that some commentators are calling some team premiers, & others also-rans, just one-third of the way through the premiership season. How incredibly stupid is that?
This is a long season, & all the top contenders will go through mini-slumps. There are so many genuine contenders this year, it is far too early to be sure of how things will eventually pan out.
You don’t win the Melbourne Cup in May or June. And you don’t win the AFL in May or June either!
May 16th 2012 @ 2:05pm
Macca said | May 16th 2012 @ 2:05pm | Report comment
Sheek – You are right, the blues were written off pre season, Premiership Favourites after round 3 and now at 5-2 are being written off again. If they beat Adelaide on Sunday and manage to get past Port & Melbourne they will be Premiership favourites again in a month and given the run of Hawthorn, West coast, Geelong & Collingwood (order may be wrong there) with the bye in the middle there is a fair chance they will be written off again a month later.
Injuries and momentum at the right time are they key this year.
May 16th 2012 @ 2:01pm
Pillock said | May 16th 2012 @ 2:01pm | Report comment
A combination of Geelong slipping a bit and other teams improving has really highlighted Geelong’s poor start to the season. No doubt they have the personnel to win however history shows it’s very hard to get up from outside the final 4. No doubt that this season is a lot more even than the last couple. As long as Geelong are in touch at the business end they can win, like last year when they came into form in perfect timing.