North Melbourne are weak and pathetic, from the coach down
By Cameron Rose, 21 May 2012 Cameron Rose is a Roar Expert
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Where has it all gone wrong for North Melbourne? What should have been a season that saw a fairytale return to the finals has instead become a waking nightmare.
Off the back of an improving list and a soft draw, North were a popular pick for the eight this year.
Yet, if we take away soft wins against the expansion teams, the Kangaroos are sitting at 1-5, conceding 108 points a game.
Even the win against Gold Coast was a poor one, surrendering a seven goal second quarter, as well as the half time lead.
For those unaware, the Suns are yet to win a game in 2012.
The Kangaroos effort, or lack thereof, against the Bulldogs in round seven had to been seen to be disbelieved. But to then lose against Port, a side which had only won two of its previous 19 matches, was to redefine insipidness.
But to lose after being 32 points up with twenty minutes to go? That just reeks of apathy, incompetence, and a lack of discipline. No backbone. No spine. And no excuse.
It’s clear that despite the tough talk from coach Brad Scott during the week, and boy did he talk it up, his players weren’t hurting enough after the disastrous Bulldogs performance. They just weren’t committed enough to playing the Port game out.
Speaking of the coach, there were plenty of threats about ‘ringing the changes’, but then only one player, Liam Anthony, averaging 27 touches a game, was omitted.
He always seems to be the scapegoat for a weak North performance under the supposed hard-line stance of Scott, despite his obvious ball-winning abilities. And yes, only an uneducated football watcher judges a players worth by how many times he gets the ball alone, but it’s a start.
If we dig a little deeper into the stats, he’s laid more tackles than hard-nut Ryan Bastinac, kicked more goals than the free-running Daniel Wells, and before being dropped was equal fourth for ‘frees for’, indicating that he puts his body in harm’s way more than a lot of teammates.
Against the Dogs, only three teammates had more contested possessions, and no one had more clearances.
It’s all well and good to ‘send a message’ as a coach, but this was the wrong target, and a soft option for a coach who preaches toughness.
Perhaps Brad needs reminding that it’s his brother Chris that has won a premiership medallion as a coach and has put some credits in the bank. Come to think of it, perhaps the wider footballing community and media need that reminder too.
When it comes to tackles, that simple indicator of work ethic and desire when you don’t have the football, Brent Harvey had laid only eight in seven games leading into the weekend. That’s hardly the example that a senior player and respected leader should be setting.
To be fair to Harvey, he put on six tackles on the weekend, but then again he wasn’t getting the ball, so perhaps felt he had to do something to earn his substantial pay packet.
While we’re on Harvey, it seems that he’s still the key to beating the Roos. In his last seventeen matches, he’s been held to 21 disposals or less on eight occasions. His team has lost every one.
This is not brought up to go the hack on a 300 game veteran, but more to question the worth of his teammates. The diminutive former skipper is 34 years old, and still gets the hard tag by men ten years his junior, some of the fittest aerobic athletes in the country. It’s only fair that he’s going to struggle to shake them more than he once did.
Where were the other players willing to step up in the last quarter and not allow the loss to be snatched from the jaws of victory?
North were only able to collect 59 disposals in the last term. 59! Less than two per minute. Even Melbourne was getting the ball 85 times a quarter while on the receiving end of a 101 point belting.
Wells only touched the ball three times after carving it up when the going was good. Leigh Adams is apparently the most underrated player in the league.
Perhaps he’d be a lot more ‘rated’ if he had more than two possessions when the game was slipping away, the least of any on-baller when the going was tough. Even Keiran Harper got it twice, and he was subbed off minutes in.
I reckon Liam Anthony might have had something to say when the game was slipping away, and you can be assured that if he was playing his team would have had it more than 59 times.
We certainly can’t blame player continuity. Over the first seven rounds, North had a league-high (equal with Richmond) seventeen players not miss a game, and Jack Ziebell hasn’t missed since resuming from suspension in round three either.
So, considering that it has all gone wrong for the Roos, the more pertinent question might be, why did we think it was going to go right?
Perhaps we were seduced by two ninth place finishes in 2010-11, years in which the competition as a whole was strong at the very top, but relatively weak outside of the chosen few.
A look at last year’s ladder reveals a 10-12 record and a percentage, usually a reliable gauge of the strength of a team, of 101.
But a closer inspection reveals big wins of 40 points or more over the weakest teams – Port twice, Melbourne, Gold Coast, Brisbane, Adelaide at their lowest ebb, and a visiting Fremantle. Even their other three victories were over a lowly Western Bulldogs, an Essendon at the tail-end of a five game losing streak, and Richmond in the last round when neither team had anything to play for.
These results were interspersed with 87 and 117 point humiliations to Collingwood, eleven goal losses to Geelong and the stodgy St Kilda, as well as losing to a Brisbane side that only won four games for the season.
Drafting at the top end in the last decade? It makes Richmond’s history look good.
Does anyone want David Trotter or Chad Jones? Jesse Smith anyone? What about Matt Riggio? Perhaps you can be tempted by Lachie Hansen, Gavin Urquhart or Robbie Tarrant?
The latter was so heavily spruiked in the pre-season he should have been on sale at the Vic Markets.
All of the above are top 30 picks over the last ten years. To this you can add Ben Cunnington and Shaun Atley, first round draftees that die-hard North supporters are currently demanding be dropped from the team.
I look at all of this now and wonder how in the hell I had them in my top eight at the start of this year.
If we took the outstanding Andrew Swallow and ever-maturing silk of Wells out of the Kangaroos and gave them to the Demons, would we see a reversal of ladder positions and fortunes?
A bit tongue-in-cheek maybe, but worth thinking about.
But let’s let Matthew Primus sum it up for us shall we? Before the weekend’s match, he said it all.
“Their coach has certainly been saying a lot of things in the press. But it’s how your players come out and want to play.”
Too true, Matthew, too true.
Cameron Rose is a born and bred Melbournian, raised on a regime of AFL, cricket and horse racing. He likes people who agree with him but loves those that don't, for in his mind there is nothing better than a roaring debate. He tweets from @camtherose.
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May 21st 2012 @ 7:53am
D.Large said | May 21st 2012 @ 7:53am | Report comment
The Author has certainly given the Roos a spanking and a well deserved on at that. I’ve said for a couple of years stop Harvey beat North, I didn’t think I would still be using the line this year. The way I see it they have about 6 really hard at it slow inside midfielders and Harvey & Wells on the outside. Gee, not really too hard to work out how to beat them is it?
May 21st 2012 @ 9:06am
Rob said | May 21st 2012 @ 9:06am | Report comment
Sums it up well, Leigh Adams example is pertinent one, to think some thought he should have been made vice captian…
North and Richmond were in relatively similar spots at the start of the year with the Roos slightly in front. After seeing the Tigers on the weekend, i think its safe to say that they have surpassed North comfortably and the consistency of their effort will ensure that they will rise more quickly and with the potential for more success than North.
May 21st 2012 @ 9:07am
TomC said | May 21st 2012 @ 9:07am | Report comment
I’ve always thought that Brad Scott had an impossible job. Expectations for him have been way to high considering the quality of the list he inherited. I think their player development has actually got a little better since he came on board. All of those failures are before his time, and Atley, Harper and Bastinac all seem to be going okay. Cunnington has been a bit disappointing, but he’s had fitness problems.
Jesse Smith was a father/son, wasn’t he? Why’s he on that list?
I don’t think the Roos got enough credit for last season. They had a horror draw and a young list and finished ninth. That’s not bad. Unfortunately young teams without a lot of attacking weapons are still going to be liable to drop games they should win.
Really shouldn’t have let Port roll over them like they did, though. Have a chance to redeem themselves slightly with what should be a straightforward win against the Lions this week.
May 21st 2012 @ 9:23am
Cameron Rose said | May 21st 2012 @ 9:23am | Report comment
Not sure if you’re aware Tom, but just because a former player has a son, it is not mandatory that they be drafted.
Seem to have drafted too many of the same player, most of whom can’t run out of sight. Ziebell only 63% game time, Harper 59% (subbed), Cunnington, Bastinac, Macmillan all 76% or under.
I’ve got time for some of these players, but there is an overall lack of heart, and pure will.
Also, North’s list is in the top half of the league in terms of average age, so let’s not play the youth line too hard.
May 21st 2012 @ 10:19am
TomC said | May 21st 2012 @ 10:19am | Report comment
I meant that he wasn’t likely to have been taken ‘at the top end’ like the other players. Looking back I see he was pick number 42 so I think my point stands. I don’t understand the sarcasm, Cam.
Completely agree that fitness is a problem for this group.
Average age is a bit of a blunt instrument to measure how ‘young’ a list is. Brent Harvey on his own drags it up considerably. The midfield is still packed with players who are 21 or younger (Ziebell, Bastinac, Cunnington, Harper, MacMillan, Atley) so I think it’s fair to call them a young team.
May 21st 2012 @ 10:55am
Cameron Rose said | May 21st 2012 @ 10:55am | Report comment
Yep, sorry Tom, i’ll cop that. Maybe i’m still upset that the Roos cost me in a multi!
Yes, they are young, but it’s all relative. The Crows are younger in age and games experience, and they’re sitting pretty at the top due to a marriage of desire and ability.
The North players seem to only have one of those components.
May 21st 2012 @ 10:27am
Macca said | May 21st 2012 @ 10:27am | Report comment
I think you are being a little hard on the lieks of Batinac, Ziebell and Cunnnington. You have to remember due to Norths list these blokes have had to play the inside midfield role from the minute they were drafted and Bastinac & Cunnington are still only 20, Cunnington has missed a couple of pre seasons through injury and Ziebell has missed a lot of footy through injury.
Also Cunnington was leading the club for tackles a couple of weeks ago (not sure about now).
Top half for ave. age,where exactly? And who are the older players bringin the age up?
May 21st 2012 @ 11:00am
Cameron Rose said | May 21st 2012 @ 11:00am | Report comment
Macca, they sit 9th for average age, higher than Collingwood, Adelaide, Carlton and Richmond.
The thing with the AFL is that you are judged based on expectation as much as anything else, and after two 9th’s with a young, improving list, we were entitled to expect improvement, especially under a coach who should be much more comfortable in his third year.
Instead they’ve gone backwards, and at a rate of knots over the last four weeks.
May 21st 2012 @ 11:08am
Macca said | May 21st 2012 @ 11:08am | Report comment
I am no expert on their list and would be interested to see how that average is reflected, ie is it a case of more older and more younger players and not the right ones in the middle. If you looks at the players they have going through the midfiled I would suggest the average age their is lower than all four you have listed.
May 21st 2012 @ 9:31am
LK said | May 21st 2012 @ 9:31am | Report comment
The title of this article on the tab in my browser reads “North Melbourne’s poo…”.
I was one of people sucked in by the hype, I thought they were specials to play finals this year. They have been very disappointing.
How did Brad Scott get a reputation for being a good coach? He seemed to have people pumping his tyres up from the outset. Not just fans, but serious journos too (is Caro a serious journo?). Is it because he talks big before games? Or because he is on that Fox show? Needless to say, he would be under a heap of pressure now. When does his contract expire? Does the board have the coin to sack him?
May 21st 2012 @ 10:15am
Poohdini said | May 21st 2012 @ 10:15am | Report comment
Unfortunately the last 10 years has really created a gap between the richer clubs & the poorer clubs of the league. When you struggle off-field its unfortunate to say you will most likely will struggle on field. Can’t remember the last time North Melbourne signed a big name player. They can’t afford to bottom out like some clubs as their membership numbers are low by comparison to other clubs & a failed season could see memebership drop dramatically. They may have a team full of top 30 picks but how the club develops their talent seems to pale in comparison to more financially secure clubs.
May 21st 2012 @ 10:52am
The Cattery said | May 21st 2012 @ 10:52am | Report comment
North, bulldogs, demons, port and lions are probably in this boat right now, and it’s going to be tough for them to work their way out of it.
Port will be aided by the new stadium. The dogs have invested in 3 father-son selections who are likely to become good players.
The Demons have dug their own grave by first punting on an untried coach, and then giving the captaincy to two very young players.
North should be better advanced than all five, and it is a worry if they come back to the field somewhat.
May 21st 2012 @ 10:58am
brendan said | May 21st 2012 @ 10:58am | Report comment
Melbourne and North should merge and become the doos(demons and roos) instead of the donts.
May 21st 2012 @ 11:12am
Australian Rules said | May 21st 2012 @ 11:12am | Report comment
I’m not sure why Brad Scott cops such a big whack in this article.
He has been impressive from the moment he entered this struggling club.
The players, and only the players, should wear the criticism from their woeful form.
May 21st 2012 @ 12:07pm
Matt F said | May 21st 2012 @ 12:07pm | Report comment
Harsh but fair. If North were a genuine finals team, like they’ve claimed, then they should have easily accounted for both the Bulldogs and Port, neither of which are going to make the Top 8. That would have put them at 5-3 and they’d be very well placed. However, they’ve fallen over badly and it’s almost impossible to see them making the finals now, even with the quite soft draw that they’ve been given this season.
Their win against Geelong is meaningless now and their season all but over.
May 21st 2012 @ 12:28pm
Cameron Rose said | May 21st 2012 @ 12:28pm | Report comment
Matt, it’s the simple truth isn’t it. For mine their season was over when the lost to the Dogs, simply because 14 wins are going to be needed, and any team that will be making it can’t afford to lose to the likes of the Dogs.
May 21st 2012 @ 12:28pm
Justin said | May 21st 2012 @ 12:28pm | Report comment
They’ve been underachievers for a very long time North Melbourne, poor recruiting was hurt them.
What are your thoughts on playing both McIntosh and Goldstein in the one team Cam? I don’t think they can do it, robs them off the run they’re already lacking. I think they should trade one of them for a key defender/classy midfielder. One other quick one, Lachie Hansen (a former no.3 pick) has stagnated… what to do with him?
May 21st 2012 @ 12:33pm
Cameron Rose said | May 21st 2012 @ 12:33pm | Report comment
Since the advent of the sub rule, I think it’s crazy to play two genuine ruckmen. Cox and Naitanui can do it because they are both freaks, but it’s only a minority of teams that could afford the luxury.
It is clear that even despite Goldstein’s dominant form last year, McIntosh is seen as the number one ruck, which is why they didn’t trade him last year when a club like Richmond would have been all over him.
Perhaps Goldstein can be offloaded to team like Collingwood for a first round draft pick, especially if Jolly retires at the end of this year.
Poor old Lachie Hansen, perhaps nothing can be done. Sometimes a high draft pick doesn’t work out, even if he was widely seen by all as the right choice at the time.
May 21st 2012 @ 12:42pm
The Cattery said | May 21st 2012 @ 12:42pm | Report comment
That’s right – one specialist ruckman and 2nd ruckman/forward is pretty much the go now. Two specialist ruckmen rotating through a 3 man bench does not compute.
In fact, both Cox and NicNat can rest up forward and be very damaging.
How about Giles at GWS, he must just about be their biggest goal kicker to date!
With Ayce Cordy starting to develop well, the dogs can start thinking about using him as their 2nd ruckan/forward, meaning that before long the dogs might have to choose between Big Will and Roughead, although both can be handy resting forward as well. They might have a case for playing all three because they lack so much height up forward – although they appear to have addressed that the last few weeks with Tory Dickson finding some form.
May 21st 2012 @ 1:03pm
Pope Paul VII said | May 21st 2012 @ 1:03pm | Report comment
Ah well they gave that one away. Sometimes that happens but not generally so disasterously I admit. No way was this debacle as bad as the overall stuff up against WB. Not so long ago they nearly knocked over Essendon. I’ll back them to beat Carlton who’ve turned in some rubbish despite being higher on the ladder. 14 games to go so statistically they’re not out of it though only a complete optimist would think they are any chance of the eight. Some harsh trading to go through for next year. Maybe Brad Scott can stake his claim as a rehabilitator and get the best out of someone like Jesse White ( don’t know his contract status ) who is wasting his time at Sydney.