Fremantle Dockers now losing ugly
By Marked, 28 May 2012 Marked is a Roar Rookie
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It was a fairly bright start to the season for the Fremantle Dockers, winning a spirited game against last year’s premiers in front of a packed Subiaco crowd.
While there was still some disquiet about the method by which Mark Harvey had been deposed and Ross Lyon brought in, there a cautious belief that if Lyon bought success to the club he would at least find acceptance.
What has been obvious to the Fremantle fan is the transformation in playing style that Lyon has quickly implemented. Most commentators declaring it St Kilda-like. However, the past few weeks, and in particular the past weekend, have highlighted a grace deficiency in Lyons coaching understanding.
While St Kilda has players developed and available with the skill to implement a closed in, defensive playbook, Fremantles players are not of the same skill set and Lyon has shown little understanding of his own team.
In fact, he admitted as much when he made it clear that in his years at St Kilda he spend little time examining the Dockers players as opposition coach.
Furthermore, the wide open plains at Patterson Stadium are in stark contract to the confinement of Etihad. Is it surprising then that the Dockers most satisfying win of this season came against the Saints, in Melbourne, at the only AFL stadium with a roof.
Despite our dominant ruckman in Sandilands helping us to be ranked first in hitouts per game, Sunday’s derby saw Fremantle post their lowest score ever at Pattersons Stadium.
Against a fired up West Coast, Fremantle were unable to sustain the pressure which saw them head into half-time with scores level at 20 points each, despite West Coast having double the scoring shots at that time.
John Worsfold understands his players, and has implemented a game plane which suits their style, as clearly demonstrated on Sunday.
Earlier in the year the Fremantle’s CEO Steve Rosich said, “Ross can deliver a consistent and successful playing style.”
As with many of the other changes Rosich has implemented at the club, Lyons’ appointment, but more particularly Harveys sacking, has not been greeted by the club faithful with any enthusiasm.
Lyon’s ugly brand of football is clearly restrictive to the opposition, but with Fremantle now losing their past two games by significant margins, it is clear that Lyon has not grasped or understood the playing stock at his disposal.
Alex Silvangi is one stark example. Fremantle members have been calling for his recall, and at Sunday’s derby when he finally got his chance, he was one of a few Dockers players who could hold his head high.
The experiment with Ballyntyne in the midfield has also been perplexing. The livewire goalsneak proved his worth in the opening game against Geelong, where he basically was the difference in the two sides.
Lyon’s desire to keep him in the midfield is perplexing in a side which looks to have no functioning forward line.
It is obvious to me that unless Lyon understands, and quickly, what sort of players he has available, and is able to adapt his playing style to it, the Dockers are in for another short and disappointing season.
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May 28th 2012 @ 3:02pm
The Cattery said | May 28th 2012 @ 3:02pm | Report comment
I can imagine Freo fans might partly excuse Lyons’ clogged up game plan if it delivered wins, but if you’re going to play that style of game and get hammered at home, then it’s definitely lose lose.
As a neutral, I can only hope that Lyons is the last of his breed.
May 28th 2012 @ 3:32pm
Matt F said | May 28th 2012 @ 3:32pm | Report comment
Ugly football is fine as long as it brings results. However when it doesn’t the pressure rises much quicker than it normally would. Given that they have a very tough month coming up (Adelaide in Perth, Tigers at the MCG, Bombers in Perth and Collingwood at the MCG) Lyon, and the Freo board who hired him, could be under some serious pressure very soon, if they’re not already.
May 28th 2012 @ 5:15pm
Brewski said | May 28th 2012 @ 5:15pm | Report comment
Die hard club fans will put up with ugly football iof it wins, but many people go to the football to be entertained, i know i do, i would rather a close loss, if it was exciting , than a boring win, i know i dont speak for everyone that i like ti be entertained.
Many Dockers fans i know told anyone who would listen that Lyon was a one trick pony, and on the big Subi ground this game plan was not going to work.
And it appears that his game plan is unravelling, let players play is my message.
May 28th 2012 @ 5:27pm
The Cattery said | May 28th 2012 @ 5:27pm | Report comment
Of course a succession of close losses can test your sanity as well!
May 29th 2012 @ 2:10pm
Nathan of Perth said | May 29th 2012 @ 2:10pm | Report comment
/Richmond, though they are finally snapping that streak. (Hawthorn are gone this year, fuggeddaboutem)
May 28th 2012 @ 5:44pm
Swampy said | May 28th 2012 @ 5:44pm | Report comment
Freo is like the LA Clippers of the AFL.
That is all.
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May 28th 2012 @ 7:02pm
dockersfan said | May 28th 2012 @ 7:02pm | Report comment
It is much too early to be judging a game plan when there has been such significant change.
Interesting to note the saints were doing far worse in their first 6 months under Ross Lyon than Freo are now. But lets not get bogged down in the facts, that’s not good journalism.
May 28th 2012 @ 7:21pm
Brewski said | May 28th 2012 @ 7:21pm | Report comment
Look at the Saints now that they are actually allowed to play football, who would you prefer to watch play ?, and whats more Scott Watters is a Freo boy through and through.
The irony of it all.
May 29th 2012 @ 1:42pm
dockersfan said | May 29th 2012 @ 1:42pm | Report comment
So you really don’t rate playing in consecutive grand finals?
Besides, during 2009 the Saints averaged 100 points a game, were second in the league for most points and first in the league for points against. Yes their success was built around defence, but when they got it right (which they did for 19 games in a row) they swarmed in attack and demolished the entire competition.
May 29th 2012 @ 1:54pm
Brewski said | May 29th 2012 @ 1:54pm | Report comment
Well i have heard that this is all part of a long term plan by Lyon, get defence right first before concentrating on attack, but the sceptic in me says, how many long term plans do you hear about from coaches.
The Dockers could have got watters for half the price.
May 28th 2012 @ 7:37pm
The Cattery said | May 28th 2012 @ 7:37pm | Report comment
Sorry dockersfan – you need to start clamouring for Ross Lyon to be disbarred from coaching any AFL club – ever, starting with your own.
May 28th 2012 @ 7:58pm
langou said | May 28th 2012 @ 7:58pm | Report comment
I am also a Freo fan and happy with Ross Lyon. We have lost the past two games, however before that we were playing well. Five wins, two loses(both winnable games). Last year we lost by 90 points to Melbourne and 100 points to North Melbourne. In 2009 we kicked 1.7.13 vs Adelaide, yet none of those results have seen anywhere near the level of outrage that has been expressed this week. The football we played against Geelong, Carlton, Sydney, Port and St.kilda this year has been good to watch. We have had a couple of shockers but lets not overreact.
May 29th 2012 @ 2:09pm
Nathan of Perth said | May 29th 2012 @ 2:09pm | Report comment
You have to admit, langou, everything wearing purple in that game was very difficult to watch.
Btw, was it the Freo away bay doing the Ole Ole’s?
May 30th 2012 @ 7:46pm
GrantS said | May 30th 2012 @ 7:46pm | Report comment
Dockersfan I am not trying to be disrespectful to your club but the team Lyons had at St Kilda was far superior to the team he now has at Freo. He couldn’t WIN a Grand Final with his tactics with that team and I sincerely doubt he will do it with this one.
I personally thought that the Dockers were improving every week under Harvey. I also thought they played an exciting brand of football compared with the crap we saw last week.
May 28th 2012 @ 7:45pm
Bsc said | May 28th 2012 @ 7:45pm | Report comment
Karma , Ross
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May 28th 2012 @ 9:01pm
Minz said | May 28th 2012 @ 9:01pm | Report comment
As a long-term Dockers supporter, I just want to see them show some fight! Getting slaughtered by the Eagles… isn’t it.
Bring back Neesham!
Yes, I’m joking, what else is a Dockers supporter to do?
May 28th 2012 @ 9:11pm
The Cattery said | May 28th 2012 @ 9:11pm | Report comment
Actually, Neesham was an absolute breath of fresh air compared to Lyon – he was truly innovative.
May 28th 2012 @ 11:22pm
Baldrick44 said | May 28th 2012 @ 11:22pm | Report comment
I think the main point is whether Ross Lyon’s strategy is still the be all and end all that it was 2-3 years ago. Football has taken another step forward offensively once again, and I’m not sure that Lyon’s style gives his side the creative freedom it needs.
Having said that, his record is exemplary and no doubt more will be made of this as the season goes on.
May 29th 2012 @ 12:58am
Johnno said | May 29th 2012 @ 12:58am | Report comment
Mark, love your work
But
You mention the wide expanses of subiaco, it is actually one of the narrowest afl venues, hence no cricket.
It is the longest afl venue.
The ground dimensions are conducive to the forward press (narrow)
For some reason freo allowed themself to all fold back into defense and subsequently allow west coast to set up their vaunted press, combine that with shabby second half clearance work, result a second half inside 50 count of 34 to 7.
That is the problem, what is the solution ?
May 29th 2012 @ 1:11am
Johnno said | May 29th 2012 @ 1:11am | Report comment
Need to build an elite home stadium for fremantle. A 30,000 seater right in Fremantle lets stop all this playing at subiaco at perth rubbish.