23 talking points from State of Origin 1
By woodhouse1086, 30 May 2012 woodhouse1086 is a Roar Rookie
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Origin I was certainly not the prettiest game of rugby league I’ve ever seen. Nevertheless, it still had all the components of any recent Origin match.
There was a horrible and embarrassing pre-game performance by Delta Goodrem (surely the NRL can get someone better than Delta for one of Australian’s most popular sporting events?), the Australian anthem sung by some red haired girl who they thought was cute, a fight, some big hits, tries, guys on debut choking under pressure (Carney), and of course Queensland winning.
With almost a week to digest the result, here are my 23 thoughts on Origin 1, 2012:
1. First and foremost, the last and controversial try Greg Inglis scored in the 71st min was 100 percent a try. Recently the rules were changed and now players can make a play at the ball over the try-line. If the ball comes loose it is not deemed a knock on, therefore it’s play on. Which means as Robbie Farah played at the ball knocking it out, it bounced off the forearm of Inglis (not played at), and then Greg grounded it.
The only argument the Blues have, is that Farah didn’t play at the ball. Funnily enough only after Ricky Stuart put a media ban on his players Robbie Farah came out and said he didn’t play at the ball. He said this not during the game, not after the game, not even two or three days after the game. NSW great Andrew Johns says there is no way he didn’t play at it, explaining that it’s just instinct to make a play at the ball to prevent a try.
In Robbie Farah’s defence, he did everything he could, what more could he have done? If he really didn’t play at the ball he should be embarrassed that he didn’t contest the try. It’s time for NSW to move on.
2. The first 20 minutes of the game had every Queenslander just a little worried. The speed at which the Cockroaches played the ball, the way the Blues were destroying Queensland up the middle of the ruck, the slow play of the ball from Queensland had all the momentum favouring the Blues. However, the 18-10 score line shouldn’t over shadow the large amount of poor decisions made by Ricky Stuart and the Blues that costs them the match.
3. NSW complain too much, especially Ricky Stuart. If he shut his mouth and stopped whining and was more concerned about his teams’ preparation rather than talking to the media, NSW will have a much better chance in game two. I have no doubt in my mind Ricky’s game plan was to go out and be a bunch of pests and try to intimidate Queensland. This was NSW’s undoing. Greg Bird slapped Cam Smith in the fifth min, Hayne jabs Thurston in the ninth min, and in the 20th min Pearce gives Queensland a penalty for being offside.
Here Greg Bird pushes Matt Scott over as he gets up, Scott reacts by throwing the ball at the back of Bird’s head which makes him square up to 6 or 7 Queensland players. During the push and shove Michael Jennings has a brain explosion and runs 15-20 metres, leaves his feet and throws a right hook which connects with the back of Brent Tate’s head.
This is where Ricky’s plan to be overly aggressive backfired.
4. On the fight, it is interesting to note that not one Queensland player threw a punch in game one, even after Pearce swung at Shillington and then connected with Thaiday’s mouth.
5. When Gorden Tallis was sent off in the 2000 State of Origin series for calling referee Bill Harrigan a ‘cheat’, David Peachey went over in the corner and Queensland lost the game 20-16. Queensland lost the series 3-0. Yet the aftermath was nothing like what we are hearing from NSW about the Jennings send off.
When (not if), Queensland go on to win the series, I guarantee NSW will bring up the Jennings send off. The bottom line is Jennings act was dirty and malicious and that’s why he received a ban
6. The backlash from this was Jennings being sin binned for 10 minutes. I do believe throwing Jennings in the bin was the wrong move by the referee. There are only three games of Origin a year and being down one man for 10 minutes out of those three games is a lot of time. Origin is the pinnacle of rugby league and should be treated differently to a typical NRL match.
All situations like this in Origin should be left for the judiciary to deal with after the game. In no way am I condoning what Jennings did, his act was cowardly, weak and proved he wasn’t mentally prepared for game one, which falls on the shoulders of Ricky Stuart.
7. Besides the sin bin, Jennings and Hayne were fantastic for the Blues. Looking incredibly dangerous every time either of them touched the ball, the two of them combined for a gain of 319 meters, 25 tackles (18 for Jennings), 3 line-breaks and 1 try.
They were by far the most threatening players for NSW. Look for them to be utilised in Origin II.
8. Robbie Farah more than justified his selection. His dummy half running was explosive, his decision-making was fantastic, and his creative play is something the Blues have lacked in recent years. A great tackle by Matt Scott held Farah up in the 16 minute, and even with 10 minutes on the bench Robbie managed to rack up 38 tackles for a gain of 76 meters on 9 runs. The only notable mistake Farah made was in the 75th minute when he went for a 40/20 and kicked the ball out on the full.
The idea was right, he had the winger and full back beaten, but the execution just wasn’t there. In the 59th minute Ricky Stuart pulled Farah off and put on Jamie Buhrer. I’ve never agreed with substituting your hooker in any NRL game. When selecting a team you choose a hooker who can play 80 minutes. There is no point taking your hooker off, especially not 59 minutes in, when they have been playing extremely well and have a complete feel for the game.
When you bring on a replacement number 9 they often look one step behind the play and cannot get into any rhythm. This is what happened to Jamie Buhrer last Wednesday night. Jamie had one good run from dummy half, however, threw a horrible pass on the fifth tackle and had no impact on the game. Subsequently he was replaced after 10 minutes. Ricky Stuart and NSW wasted two interchanges. This was another poor decision from Ricky.
9. While NSW were busy interchanging their hookers, Queensland’s Captain Cameron Smith was leading from the front. Besides topping the tackle count with 47, Smith had 3 kicks with a gain of 170 metres on the night. To put his kicks in perspective Thurston had 7 kicks for 170 meters, Cronk had 12 kicks for 367 meters, Carney 4 kicks for 109 meters, Pearce 11 kicks for 312 meters, and Farah 5 kicks for 89 metres.
All three of Smith’s kicks came from dummy half and hit grass. Two kicks in particular stood out to me. In the 12th minute Queensland were under the pump and down 4-0 on the scoreboard, NSW were making twice as many meters as Queensland on their sets by darting up the middle of the ruck. On the fourth tackle, 34 meters out from the Queensland line, Cam shot into dummy half and pulled the trigger. He managed to hit grass 13 meters out from the Blues line and the ball rolled to the try line.
The second kick came in the 56th minute, same situation, Queensland were on the back foot and had been struggling to get out of their own half. On the fourth, Smith steps into dummy half and kicks down field rolling the ball into the corner where a good chase left NSW playing from their own try line. Both of these kicks were timely and released the pressure NSW had been building.
10. Without a doubt, Nate Myles and Brent Tate were Queensland’s best performers on the night. Though honourable mentions must go to Greg Inglis and Ben Hannant. Nate Myles was man-of-the-match, which surprised a few people at first including me. Darren Lockyer said he was blown away with Myles’ performance on Wednesday night stating, “I loved playing with Nate”.
After re-watching the game a few times, it became pretty evident just how much work Myles put in. In 55 minutes Nate had 11 runs for 76 meters and 36 tackles, however it was his work around the ruck that sparked Darren’s comments. As I said above, the first 20 minutes of the game Queensland were being destroyed up the middle, the Blues play of the ball was incredibly fast which fuelled their fantastic dummy half running and left Queensland’s big men exposed.
Myles was the one who stopped this; he was unbelievably strong in defence. Myles would come out of the line and make the first initial hit in which he would go high and wrap up the ball. The key here was that Myles would very rarely get bumped off, thus heavily stopping the Blues offensive flow which shifted the momentum Queensland’s way. Normally Myles gets knocked out every Origin, to be honest I was worried when this didn’t happen, however he still seemed to kick butt.
11. Brent Tate was spectacular. While Queensland gave up two tries due to mistakes under the high ball, Brent Tate was plucking them out of the sky. Tate defused four or five critical high balls, made an important tackle on a run away Jennings that forced the ball loose, cleaned up a mistake from Billy under a bomb, ran 20 metres to take down Carney in space 10 metres out, had a great 25 metre run in the first half, was denied a try from a fantastic tackle by Hayne.
When Queensland was under the pump in the 69th minute, he made a darting run from dummy half down the side line to put Queensland on the attack. Two minutes later Inglis scored to seal the game. Tate led Queensland in metres, with 154 in 15 runs.
12. If Brett Stewart straightens up when the Blues run their second man play it will be way more effective. For some reason NSW ran the play mainly down the side where Inglis defended. The first and second time Stewart took three or four steps to the right when he got the ball and then off-loaded, leaving the guys outside him with no space to work and a hungry Inglis to deal with. Needless to say, Inglis won every battle.
13. Queensland second man play exposed Uate’s weakness in defence. Uate’s lack of judgment allowed Thurston to have a field day. The first time Queensland ran the play Uate rushed out of the line, JT sold a dummy to Uate and then through a pass behind him to a rampaging Inglis down the line. The next time Uate stayed back when he should have come up, and from then on his confidence was low and he couldn’t put a foot right.
14. Victoria should not under any circumstances get the rights to an Origin match every year. It is called ‘State of Origin’ for a reason and none of the tradition or culture created from Origin came from Victoria.
15. State of Origin games should be held on stand-alone weekends. We did it for the Australia v New Zealand test this year, why not for Origin? Some teams such as the Cowboys have players who are forced to play three games in eight days. Rugby league is too physical and players cannot be expected play this many games in such a short period, especially at the back end of their careers. It’s these heavy schedules and old age that forces teams like the Broncos to sit stars Thaiday, Petero and Hodges out, which resulted in Brisbane being dominated by the Storm 34-10.
Finally, some facts:
16. Fact: Greg Bird’s tackle on Cooper Cronk was not a penalty.
17. Fact: NSW only scored points because of two Queensland mistakes.
18. Fact: I love having Johnathan Thurston as Queensland’s goal kicker!!
19. Fact: Cooper Cronk was well below par.
20. Fact: I love and miss Darren Lockyer
21. Fact: Paul Gallen had 22 runs for 230 meters along with 33 tackles. The Blues’ skipper was awesome.
22. Fact: If Anthony Watmough isn’t injured he will play Origin II. Not picking Watmough was another poor decision.
23. Fact: Gallen needs to stop his endless bickering with the referees. Gallen’s constant squabbling throughout game one was a sign of frustration and defeat. Imagine being a NSW player and all game you see your captain arguing with the referees, wouldn’t you think “Gallen is disputing everything, he doesn’t look confident, he doesn’t look in control, he looks frazzled, he’s worried, I should be worried”.
On top of this, the decision to kick for goal when given a penalty 40 metres out was not the right call. Even if Carney managed to get the two points, Queensland were massively on the back foot and the 10 minutes prior to this heavily favoured NSW. Tate had to defuse two high balls, Jennings scored a try, and Queensland hadn’t really been out of their own half.
With Origin I complete we sit back and wait for Origin II. With the second game in New South Wales and the Blues now realising just out how damaging they can be up the middle of the ruck, the Maroons have their work cut out for them.
However, as a Queenslander, I would be more afraid if my team didn’t consist of names such as Billy Slater, Johnathan Thurston, Nate Myles, Cameron Smith, Matthew Scott, Justin Hodges, and a rampaging Greg Inglis who at the young age of 25 now holds the record for most tries in Origin at 13. That he is only 25 is a great sign for Queensland.
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May 30th 2012 @ 6:54am
Raugeee said | May 30th 2012 @ 6:54am | Report comment
I only disagree with two things.1) Bird’s tackle was a penalty, Cronk landed on the tip of his shoulder. A penalty, nothing more nothing less and that’s what it got. 2) I watched Delta with the sound off and thought she looked pretty good!
I’m also a Maroons nut but I too railed at the decision to sin-bin Jennings. It was the ‘correct’ decision but really? Compare it with the egregious spear tackle O’Donnell did on Boyd Game II 2010. Sterlo and Gus both stated “That’s it – you can’t be sent of in Origin anymore!” Apparently you can….for a handbag slap. Great point you raised about the niggle, I hadn’t thought about it being orchestrated before you mentioned it. I hadn’t thought about it because I couldn’t imagine it would be a genuine tactic to beat Queensland! What a giggle! It’s like a fully armoured warrior being threatened by a child with a toy sword or a Brahman bull being stung by a bee. Come on Ricky! Your job is on the line, get real, tell your Captain to stop whinging.
In the aftermath of the game and the endless calls of poor reffing i decided to revisit 2 games of the past. Firstly I rewatched Game 1 2000. The better team lost that night. Why? Poor captaining that’s why. Hollywood was the only person in the world who didn’t see the 2 knock-ons leading up to the try that leveled it 16 – 16. What did the raging bull do? Called Harrigan an ‘effing cheat”. Notwithstanding the enormous humour in that action what Gordie should’ve done as captain was rally his troops to get down the other end and win the game…….fast forward. Game 3 2006 2nd half – Price is denied a perfectly legitimate try and a few minutes later a blatant Hodgson knock on and the video ref awards a NSW try. What did Lockyer do as captain? Score the winning try in the 77th minute that’s what. Until NSW realise that keeping your head and winning through adversity is what it’s all about they’ll remain runners up for many a year.
May 30th 2012 @ 12:00pm
Gareth said | May 30th 2012 @ 12:00pm | Report comment
I’ll echo your first point. It *was* going to be a textbook tackle from Bird until Farah got involved and upset the balance of the whole thing, tipping Cronk’s upper body downward and dropping him on his shoulder blades. Penalty any day of the week, even Origin.
May 30th 2012 @ 1:27pm
dishes said | May 30th 2012 @ 1:27pm | Report comment
“If he really didn’t play at the ball he should be embarrassed that he didn’t contest the try.”
Using this same logic obviously Inglis played at the ball, because it would be embarrassing if he wasn’t, as he was in the process of trying to score a try. You can’t say “he didn’t have time to play at the ball”, he was constantly in the process of playing at the ball. It’s just common sense. Seriously would anyone be complaining if it was disallowed? I agree, however, that NSW should move on.
May 30th 2012 @ 3:07pm
Ceebow said | May 30th 2012 @ 3:07pm | Report comment
I read a few points and realised ur prolly another QLD trying to justify the win.
May 30th 2012 @ 3:48pm
eagleJack said | May 30th 2012 @ 3:48pm | Report comment
Agreed Ceebow. Stopped after 3 points.
Sorry Woodhouse it’s just I find it hard to read an article that states NSW went out to be pests and intimidate when both teams bring this to the table. You try to intimidate by getting the upper hand early. I’d hardly call Pearce being called offside a planned move to be a “pest”. It would be to get up and in the face of your oppostion to stop them from crossing the ad line. Happens in every game, every w/end. And QLD were just as guilty of the niggle as NSW. Hayne’s jab on Thurston was a reaction to Thurston dropping his elbow on Hayne’s throat and digging in further when he tried to get up. Hodges lashed out with the boot kicking Farah in the head. Slater tried to break Hayne’s leg “Isaac Luke style. And there was plenty more. Nobody who takes the field in an Origin battle is a saint.
June 1st 2012 @ 9:35am
woodhouse1086 said | June 1st 2012 @ 9:35am | Report comment
EagleJack, think you interpreted it wrong, wasn’t saying Pearce coming up and getting pinned for offside a pest move, was talking about the whole NSW attitude in the game.
If Farah was really kicked in the head on purpose, do you think the league would let that slide? I’m saying the notable strikes come from NSW.I agree no one who takes the field in Origin is a saint, but are you saying every player on the ground who gets a hand in his face or on their neck has the right to jab that tackler like Hayne did?
June 1st 2012 @ 10:10am
Lost Earthling said | June 1st 2012 @ 10:10am | Report comment
Slater wasn’t trying to break Hayne’s leg, he was trying to pull his shoe off to slow the game down since NSW were on a roll and attacking the QLD line. It worked because Hayne lay there wondering if he should stay down and let the video ref decide if he should get a penalty.
I know it’s hard for Blues fans but maybe, just maybe, they need to watch the game again after things have calmed down a bit in their head and see the errors in their thinking and realise the mistakes the NSW coaching staff and team made, many of which are mentioned above, that cost them the game.
May 30th 2012 @ 6:41pm
Roy said | May 30th 2012 @ 6:41pm | Report comment
Ceebow, the thing about winning is you don’t need to justify a thing.
Ricky and a lot cockroaches seem to be the ones desperately looking for justification.
May 30th 2012 @ 3:44pm
JJ said | May 30th 2012 @ 3:44pm | Report comment
I have the sneaking suspicion that the author might just be on one M. Meninga’s payroll – or at least a died in the wool QLD redneck – how biased is this article?! By the way, when you say “NSW only scored points because of two Queensland mistakes” – who cares – the mistakes were forced. We could well say that 2 QLD tries can be atributed to diabolical refereeing – and that Brett Stewart scored because Sam Thaiday didn’t ground the ball in goal as his fingers were under it.
Please, at your next attempt, try for a balanced approach.
May 30th 2012 @ 10:45pm
Queensland's Game Is Rugby League said | May 30th 2012 @ 10:45pm | Report comment
There’s nothing balanced about your response. You make up crap and pretend it’s fact.
Have a good hard think before you go accusing Queenslanders of being rednecks. The sooky cockroaches who are whinging like spoilt brats can be called rednecks.
May 31st 2012 @ 8:54pm
JJ said | May 31st 2012 @ 8:54pm | Report comment
My tongue was firmly planted in my cheek – it was an opposite example of a similar approach taken by the author to outline the one-sideness of the article.. Your comment is also Meninga-esque.
June 1st 2012 @ 10:40am
Artie said | June 1st 2012 @ 10:40am | Report comment
JJ i have to disagree with your point. Even Gus Gould stated after the game that NSW never looked like breaking through QLD’s defensive line. I agree that points on the board is all that matters in the end – but i would worried if I was NSW and relying on similar sorts of tries in games 2 and 3. Billy Slater was off on the night but he is arguably the best fullback of all time and great players don’t let that happen twice.
May 30th 2012 @ 3:53pm
LM said | May 30th 2012 @ 3:53pm | Report comment
Ceebow, i thought the exact same thing. This column has maroon dripping off it.
I still don’t understand how Farah is playing at the ball, yet Inglis isn’t.
May 30th 2012 @ 10:20pm
Ceebow said | May 30th 2012 @ 10:20pm | Report comment
Hahahahaha with a win like game 1 def needs justification, the constant comments from qlders giving us there expert opinions on why the GI try was correct and how nsw errors lost us the game but conveniently ignoring that all the tries came off the back of dodgy calls seems like QLDers justifying there win. Why is it online we find really pig headed QLDers but in public and at the local we find the complete opposite? most of my Qld mates admit it was pure luck that got QLD over the line, but “online” QLDers are opposite.
May 30th 2012 @ 10:49pm
Queensland's Game Is Rugby League said | May 30th 2012 @ 10:49pm | Report comment
Nothing dodgy about Queensland’s first two tries. The third one was unusual, but it was a fair try.If you think Farah’s foot knocked the ball out of Inglis’ hand by accident then you might need to see a shrink. The penalties were justifiable.
The imaginary Brett Stewart try is exactly that, imaginary.
Why can’t NSW fans like you just accept that your team doesn’t have the strike power to win?
Obviuosly you know it is so, otherwise you wouldn’t be so hung up by an unusual try that was, as Harrigan pointed out, validated by the rule book. Some of the excuses you guys are coming up with are crazy. You want to rules to be rewritten just because you lost.
May 31st 2012 @ 6:57pm
Ceebow said | May 31st 2012 @ 6:57pm | Report comment
I am hung up about the GI try because its obvious its not a try, even Harrigan told the refs to keep quite about it because all the refs believed its not a try, im sure most NSW fans are pissed because we were robbed of an oppurtunity to strike back in the last 10min just like QLD had the chance to do so in game 1 last year after we took the lead after 70th min, plus seeing that the QLD forwards were buggered and fatigued there was a percentage that we could of struck back.
How can you say we cant win? Last year with dodgy selections we took the lead after 70 mins in game 1, won game 2 by 10 points, then lost at QLD by the same margin we beat you by in NSW with terrible selections. Ill be the first to say QLD are better than NSW but QLDers like yourself are to pig headed to see that the two teams are not separated as much as you “online QLDers” make out, even Cameron Smith said NSW 6 losses have over shadowed what they can do.
May 31st 2012 @ 8:13pm
Queensland's Game Is Rugby League said | May 31st 2012 @ 8:13pm | Report comment
Oh how selective you are. You go on about NSW losing game 3 by 10 points, but you refuse to point out that Queensland scored the first 24 points. Those 24 points were scored within 33 minutes! That shows what Queensland can do when their forwards are dominant. NSW got it back to 24-10 with a couple of late tries in the first half, and controlled possession for the first 25 minutes of the second half, but failed to score during the period. Queensland scored the next two to make it 34-10. NSW scored a few consolation tries after the contest was well and truly over. Not the same as scoring them when the game is on the line.
Let’s move forward to game 1 2012, where NSW’s forwards were dominant. The team only managed to score 10 points in the entire game, with both tries coming from the boot. NSW’s halves didn’t have anything that could get their centres and wingers over the land.
May 31st 2012 @ 9:05pm
Ceebow said | May 31st 2012 @ 9:05pm | Report comment
HAhahahaha i question your knowledge of league mate, you say the forwards dominated in game 3 for the first 30mins which is absolute rubbish. Your halves dominated the first 30mins by creating repeat sets and therefore draining the mobillity out of our pack, this game plan was executed cause QLD knew there forwards would be swept off there feet like in game 2 and dominated, they stole the NSW weapon off them which was mobillity and left them soft and fatigued.
Dont give this rubbish QLD took there foot off the throttle in later stages of the game, they were kick chasing, hitting it up, and defending with the same intensity in the later stages to get Locky over the line. My goodness you QLDers have got your heads so far up your arses you cant see things as they are but see the things through your own arrogance and cocky attitude.
June 1st 2012 @ 3:27pm
Queensland's Game Is Rugby League said | June 1st 2012 @ 3:27pm | Report comment
“HAhahahaha i question your knowledge of league mate, you say the forwards dominated in game 3 for the first 30mins which is absolute rubbish. Your halves dominated the first 30mins by creating repeat sets and therefore draining the mobillity out of our pack, this game plan was executed cause QLD knew there forwards would be swept off there feet like in game 2 and dominated, they stole the NSW weapon off them which was mobillity and left them soft and fatigued.”
I’ll be honest and admit that I cannot recall every set of game 3. You must have watched the game over and over again to remember what Queensland did every set. I pay more attention to the Cowboys matches and Queensland Cup matches that I watch each week. The origin games are a novelty that I sit back and enjoy, not analyse too much.
Of course Queensland took their foot of the pedal in the latter stages of the game. Just because they were chasing their kicks doesn’t mean they were making a second, third and forth effort stop tackle busts, scramble when second-phase play was generated by the opposition, communicate and scramble with their fellow defenders to diffuse decoy runners or have their fullback, halves and dummy half back up the ball carriers every play so they could capitalise on any offload. If they really wanted to score points then they would have been doing a bit more than just getting their fowards to make hit up after hit up and kicking the ball long to the corner for NSW’s winger to work it out of their 10 x 10.
You obviously don’t know your league too well if you’re unaware that using the hit up x 5 then kick long and chase game plan towards the end of a game when leading by an unattainable lead is a smart, energy saving safety strategy used by teams when they’re well in front and don’t need to score any more points. Its role is to force the opposition to try their hand from their red zone because they need to score points and need them quickly. Queensland may not have been making five hit ups in a row, but from what I remember — my memory isn’t the best and I haven’t watched the game since that night — I can’t recall Queensland’s ballplayers and ball runners attempting to work with one another too often at the backend of the game. They probably came together reluctantly or nonchalantly every now and then, but if it wasn’t executed too well then that shows they didn’t really have their heart in it. I’m confident in saying that because if want to do something and put their mind to it, they get it right more often than not.
“My goodness you QLDers have got your heads so far up your arses you cant see things as they are but see the things through your own arrogance and cocky attitude.”
You’re the one who thinks there’s some grand conspiracy by NSW refs to rob NSW of origin glory. The referees boss and Stuart told everyone the same thing I said, yet you still go on about this grand conspiracy to award Inglis the try.
May 31st 2012 @ 7:12pm
Ceebow said | May 31st 2012 @ 7:12pm | Report comment
Do you expect Farrah to make his foot disappear? he wasnt even looking at the ball, so if that was playing at the ball he must of grew some eyes on his leg because i cant see any other explanation how he managed to kick the ball from GI within in a split second without looking at the ball. Anyway im over this argument cause all the refs, Wally Lewis, Fatty Vaughton, aswell a plethora of experts saying its not a try and even the person who awarded the try has been stood down, and Harrigan getting grilled for justifying the try with laws that dont even apply to the try tells me its NOT a try, so no matter what facts are in front of “Internet QLD keyboard warriors” like yourself, the pig headed nature will never allow correction. You can keep justifying the try all you like but im done.
May 31st 2012 @ 8:17pm
Queensland's Game Is Rugby League said | May 31st 2012 @ 8:17pm | Report comment
Ceebow,
Give it a rest,will ya?
What are the odds of Farah’s foot accidentally making contact with the football?
Sean Hampstead awarded the try because the rule book says it was a try. The only reason he was stood down is because Stuart and 7,000,000 other cockroaches are throwing a tanty.
May 31st 2012 @ 10:48pm
Ceebow said | May 31st 2012 @ 10:48pm | Report comment
Hey your the one who brought the subject back up, if you wanted me to give it a rest you could of kept your mouth shut, you online QLDers are such hypocrites.
June 1st 2012 @ 10:59am
Artie said | June 1st 2012 @ 10:59am | Report comment
Ceebow – GI’s try was a try. That’s why the ref rewarded it and that’s why Bill Harrigan confirmed it. It’s the rule that you disagree with and others disagree with and that’s fair. However any argument that the ref was wrong is incorrect.
NSW’s should be focusing less on the refs and more on why they lost and how they can improve.
May 30th 2012 @ 6:15pm
scott said | May 30th 2012 @ 6:15pm | Report comment
more maroon vomit. Do you live under a bridge aswell?
Troll.
May 30th 2012 @ 10:03pm
Ceebow said | May 30th 2012 @ 10:03pm | Report comment
Woodhouse – Im sorry but that tittle “Rookie” should stay under your avatar as long as you keep writing blantant biased blogs like this.
June 1st 2012 @ 10:21am
woodhouse1086 said | June 1st 2012 @ 10:21am | Report comment
Ceebow… “Why is it online we find really pig headed QLDers but in public and at the local we find the complete opposite?”, and you keep talking about these “online QLDers”.You are online, not in public and at the local, being pig headed starting fights with people you don’t even know. Pretty sure you called QLDers hypocrites, little bit of the pot calling the kettle black don’t you think? Good work man.
New South Wales have won 5 out of the last 19 State of Origin games. I’m from QLD and supporting my State is what Origin is all about, QLD are and have been dominating Origin for the last 6-7 years, so of course the article is bias towards QLD. If NSW had dominated game 1(and the last 6 series), I would have written that, but the fact is they didn’t and haven’t (except for the first 20 minutes of game 1). NSW poor decision making and lack of composure is what screwed them, why don’t you talk about that? Why don’t you discuss the stupid decision to take 2 points 40 meters out, or the stupid decision to take Farah off, or the stupid decision to continually put high balls up to Tate who was defusing everything? Instead you choose to attack the referees decisions which funnily enough your NSW players can’t be held accountable for.
Kind of hard to write an article on how “great” NSW are in Origin at the moment don’t you think? Consider out of the last 19 Origin games QLD have outscored NSW 386-277.
Your hatred on the article actually makes writing it all worth while, so cheers.
June 1st 2012 @ 10:47am
Ceebow said | June 1st 2012 @ 10:47am | Report comment
Hahahaha you should be happy im on here arguimg because it seems noone could careless about your stupid blogs mate. Who said i am not in public and at the local discussing my thoughts on Origin aswell as online? I speak to many QLDers in public and they seem to have a very different view to those online. I call you “Online QLDers” hypocrites because since game 1 all i have heard from QLDers like yourself is “NSW are whingers and sooks” when there are so many cases of QLD players and coaches being whingers and sooks themselves.
“If NSW dominated game 1, i would of written about it” You have contradicted yourself because NSW did dominate that game and lost on the score board which we both know there are many reasons behind that but im over it and im not gonna go over it again. So why dont you write about how NSW forwards kept catching QLD forwards on the back foot, or how a NSW team that only had 2 weeks to prep combos,setplays ect managed to dominate a team that had 6 years of origin and Kangaroo matches to prepare? why dont you talk about the fact QLD forwards had hands on hips and heads throughout the game and were lucky in the last ten minute GI try gave them a long breather to help them recover?
June 1st 2012 @ 11:13am
Artie said | June 1st 2012 @ 11:13am | Report comment
I don’t understand why everyone is concerned about the ‘bias’ of the author. Woodhouse1086 is not a journalist – he’s written an article based on his opinion which is what the roar is all about right? Of course it is going to be coming from a QLD perspective if he is a QLDER. If you wanted to read safe/unbiased/orthodox views you can just read foxsports articles or the Australian.
Personally, I love reading this sort of stuff and people’s replies. No one is going to agree and that’s the beauty of sports and Origin!
Woodhouse1086- would love to read an article about your predictions for game 2 and how your think NSW can exploit any weakenesses in QLD’s game/team
June 1st 2012 @ 12:25pm
perko2000 said | June 1st 2012 @ 12:25pm | Report comment
I agree Artie I much prefer opinion based articles than the quote based dribble from other news outlets. Ceebow you might want to calm down on the vitriol, you’re going to give yourself an ulcer. You are 100% correct NSW did dominate up the middle – however they failed to convert any of their extra metres into anything meaningful. They played to their kicks. Which did give them some reward but I would hardly call that ‘dominating’ the game. As the article so rightly points out it was a lack of tactical nous that sunk NSW. Do you think it was a good idea to continue with the bombing raid on Tate? If they made the right decisions at the right time they could have won the game. They could have taken the ref out of the equation but they did not. Where does this leave QLD; very nervous because these issues can be fixed. Although will Sticky focus on his team or the refs? This remains to be seen.
June 1st 2012 @ 11:09am
Jono8787 said | June 1st 2012 @ 11:09am | Report comment
Ceebow – ridiculous response to a well written article many valid points for NSW to reflect on. Your attacking of Queenslanders in general and the mythical queensland keyboard warriors is both laughable and hypocritical. .
You question other peoples knowledge of the game but I fail to see any real insight or analysis in your comments, instead you talk about Queensland ‘steaing’ NSW’s weapon (i don’t even understand what this means) and ‘if so and so had happened then NSW would have had a chance to strike back’ What about the preceding 70 minutes where the sum of NSW’s attacking efforts (excluding the errors by Slater) was one held up call and one repeat set?
Take your Bush league comments back to the Daily Telegraph forums. Clown.
June 1st 2012 @ 11:06am
woodhouse1086 said | June 1st 2012 @ 11:06am | Report comment
Point 2 “The first 20 minutes of the game had every Queenslander just a little worried. The speed at which the Cockroaches played the ball, the way the Blues were destroying Queensland up the middle of the ruck, the slow play of the ball from Queensland had all the momentum favouring the Blues”. Pretty sure i wrote about how NSW kept catching QLD forwards..
Yeah NSW only had 2 weeks to prep, this is why you lost and why NSW haven’t won a series in the last 6 years. QLD has better players in the halves, at fullback and at hooker. So you admit NSW are the weaker side? So the stronger team won, glad we agree on that, but you a sting whinging like Ricky Stuart and Paul Gallen, you must be from NSW.
When a team wins people talk about how they won and what they did to win (because that is the whole point in playing). When a team fails (like NSW in game 1), people discuss what they did wrong and how to fix it.
“Who said i am not in public and at the local discussing my thoughts on Origin aswell as online?” What’s to say every Queenslander you have accused of being an “Online QLD pighead” isn’t in public and at the local discussing their thoughts on game 1? Is this seriously what you are arguing about now? Come on, even you are better than that.
June 1st 2012 @ 12:23pm
Ceebow said | June 1st 2012 @ 12:23pm | Report comment
Where have i ever said NSW is the better team? NSW were the better team in game1 no matter what you say, just because QLD have won the last 6 series doent mean they cant be beaten which the Kiwis proved in 2010 4nations.
See your a hypocrite cause you call Ricky Stuart and Gallen a HYpocrite when Mal Maninga-ga is the biggest, he whinged about a mere 3 year domination and said origin is dead only after 3YEARS hahahahaha so imagine his form if it was 6years, then you have that disgusting “Rats and filth” comments which is just plain laughable. QLD terrible losers, Worst losers.
Ppl drive around QLD with “the smart state” written on there num plates but yet qld school students continue to be at the bottom of the aus table with examinations and it shows with clowns like Mal Maninga coming out with such childish conspiracy theories thinking he is still in the fkn 80′s hahahaha.
Such hate from QLD toward NSW makes me wonder if QLD r willing to decline on the $2million given to QLD from NSW. Such hatred even after nsw public handed out more money from there pockets for donations towards the floods than anyother state in australia. such a small man syndrome attitude.
June 1st 2012 @ 1:02pm
woodhouse1086 said | June 1st 2012 @ 1:02pm | Report comment
WHAT? Did you just try to win this debate by dropping facts on how much NSW donated to QLD after the floods? On top of that try to link my passion against NSW during Origin to me being ungrateful for the donation QLD received from NSW? That is the definition of immature.
Once again, just as others have stated, you don’t make any sense, at all. Never said they can’t be beaten, my OPINION is they won’t. Shit man, how did you go from Origin to the flood donations? Haha are you really playing the flood donation card? It’s a sports article based on my OPINION, not a person attack on you or the state of NSW. My OPINION might not seem right to you and obviously my OPINION is different to your OPINION, deal with it and stop trying to find some magical and outrageous connection between this article and the QLD flood donations, calling on that is totally desperate and pathetic.
You’re further proving my point about NSW whining too much. Evidently your OPINION is much different to my OPINION, just like the Inglis try, get over it and move with your life.
June 1st 2012 @ 2:52pm
Artie said | June 1st 2012 @ 2:52pm | Report comment
Ceebow you are talking absolute dribble now. You should stop before you embarrass yourself anymore…
June 1st 2012 @ 3:37pm
NBPC said | June 1st 2012 @ 3:37pm | Report comment
I am with Ceebow – clearly Qlders should either start losing State of Origin or give NSW back their $2million of donations for flood victims.
Same goes with the All Blacks…
June 1st 2012 @ 4:11pm
perko2000 said | June 1st 2012 @ 4:11pm | Report comment
+1 That’s awesome NBPC
June 1st 2012 @ 3:41pm
Queensland's Game Is Rugby League said | June 1st 2012 @ 3:41pm | Report comment
“Ppl drive around QLD with “the smart state” written on there num plates but yet qld school students continue to be at the bottom of the aus table with examinations and it shows with clowns like Mal Maninga coming out with such childish conspiracy theories thinking he is still in the fkn 80′s hahahaha.”
I find that quite funny, especially as it came straight after you started your previous paragraph with:
“See your a hypocrite cause”
Did your NSW primary school teachers explain the difference between “your” and “you’re”?
Maybe you were at home with a cold that day?
June 2nd 2012 @ 7:52pm
Ceebow said | June 2nd 2012 @ 7:52pm | Report comment
hahahahahahahahaha i love it.
June 6th 2012 @ 2:29pm
Albinator of old said | June 6th 2012 @ 2:29pm | Report comment
Hey Ceebow when australia lost the 4nations to the kiwis who was the kangaroos coach.
STICKY RICKY, it was him that brought shame to us and who was guiding the kiwis as assistant coach,
the mighty QLDER in wayne Bennett.