Give the West Coast Eagles the flag now
By sophiejaneshaw, 30 May 2012 sophiejaneshaw is a Roar Rookie
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Former AFL superstar and now commentator and television personality Luke Darcy believes that 2012 is the year of the Essendon Bombers.
Darcy, speaking on Access All Areas on AFL.com.au, said that he believes the Bombers have a perfect mix to fly in and grasp the AFL premiership this year.
He has compared Essendon’s current list to that of the ‘Baby Bombers’ – a name referring to Essendon’s young team who surprisingly won the flag back in 1993.
Well, Luke Darcy, you may be a 224-game player and current Channel 7 and Triple M radio commenter, but I, Sophie Shaw – a 21-year-old second year sports journalism student and very passionate Essendon supporter – am telling you that you are wrong.
The West Coast Eagles will win the 2012 premiership.
This is courtesy of the two home finals they will receive and a game style that very much suits the MCG come grand final day when they will run out. The club – a ‘been there and done that’ club – is proud and has ridden out the loss of Chris Judd and a very public and ugly drug controversy that led to an external review of their club operations. Through all of this, the Eagles are currently the best placed team to win the grand final.
Looking at their draw for the remainder of the season, many AFL enthusiasts would highlight the tough run ahead for the Eagles. With games against Collingwood, Hawthorn, Carlton, Adelaide and Fremantle, I agree it does prove to be a fair test, but it can be confidently said that they have their sights set on a top two finish. Who would count them out once they get there?
At present they are playing without Mark Le Cras, Andrew Embley, Mark Nikoski Josh Kennedy, Ashton Hams, and speedy defender Ashley Smith – unquestionably six players of importance. If the WCE are able to stagger the return of these players over the second part of the season it gives the club immeasurable depth.
The only danger that I must point out (John Worsfold pay attention) is playing them all at once and therefore being underdone. Then again, it is a severe possibility that all of them may not actually get back.
Josh Kennedy and Mark Le Cras are obviously critical to the finals campaign, but I have a sneaking suspicion that Worsfold may have already reserved the red vest for Andrew Embley.
All premiership teams are built on defence. Their captain Darren Glass is refreshed and fit again. He forms an excellent 3-tall defence with the vastly improved Eric McKenzie and the dashing Will Schofield. Patrick McGinnity and Adam Selwood provide the lock down players needed, allowing the physical pairing of Shannon Hurn and Beau Waters to play their natural game. We cannot forget Sam Butler – a premiership player – who can slot in on the wing or half back.
Across the centre, the traditional wingers are hard runners in Matt Rosa and Andrew Gaff. They greatly compliment a hard ball winning inside midfield that features Daniel Kerr, Matt Priddis, and Scott Selwood. Traditional rovers Luke Shuey and Chris Masten have both come on enormously, although both having slow starts to their career. Masten was outplayed early by Fremantle’s Rhys Palmer and Shuey had an unfortunate personal family tragedy.
I would add Embley to this group as the sub and pinch hitting wingman. All players can rotate through forward with the exception of Kerr and Priddis who because of their enormous effort will require a rest on the bench. I don’t question West Coast’s reluctance to rotate them at the same time because of their ability to win such hard ball at the stoppages.
And who is it that feeds and controls this dangerously-good midfield? In my opinion, the number one most effective ruck combination in the AFL. Dean Cox and Nic Naitanui; they’re big, tall, mobile and most importantly a threat. These two become a genuine forward threat when moved up the ground. Cox, who soars at 6ft8, can run and accumulate possessions like a lightening midfielder standing at a mere 175cm. One word to describe Naitanui is explosive. He can jump (and boy can he jump) as well as being able to control centre clearances. He follows up as well as any ruckman and attacks the ball hard.
Statistics show that he may only get a dozen or so touches but they are game changing possessions.
Their ruck work is first class and when comparing them to Darcy’s idea of a premiership combination in Essendon’s Bellchambers and Ryder – well let’s just say that although I believe I hold loyalty to my Bomber boys, with that loyalty comes an honest opinion, one of which believes that they don’t even come close to a very special Cox/Naitanui combo.
Up forward, the Eagles bucked convention. Experts said that three talls are too much of a luxury given the way opposition sides run the ball out of defence. The Eagles have gone for four. The impressive Jack Darling, Quentin Lynch and the key man Josh Kennedy combined with Naitanui make an imposing quartet. This is an intimidating forward line, one of which is capable of kicking many goals in big finals.
Finally, the system of play. They produce great run and rebound from defence and continually hit targets. They are physically strong and have great contested ball winners. Their young players in Gaff and Shuey have given them an edge of class and they have hard-nosed taggers if needed in McGinnity and the Selwood boys. Their ‘forward press’ is as good as, or not better, than anyone else’s in the competition and they maintain hard tackles right across the ground.
It’s about balance; depth, defence and attack. Eagles should get two home finals. They will win them both. I do believe that Essendon and West Coast have similar strengths, but it’s the home ground advantage during the finals series that the Eagles will have, combined with their previous success in September action that sways me towards the team from the west.
It puts them in the grand final where they can win it. Sorry, Luke Darcy.
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May 30th 2012 @ 1:58am
Lroy said | May 30th 2012 @ 1:58am | Report comment
Wow, what an excellent article.. as an avid West Coast fan, I lapped it all up.
Interesting, Bombers Pies and Eagles all look the goods at the moment, will be interesting to see how everyone is going after the next 4 weeks.. you would have to think the top 2 sides after round 12 will likely be the 2 grand finalists right?
What an exciting season… and keep the articles coming, this one was awesome
May 30th 2012 @ 3:13am
Jack said | May 30th 2012 @ 3:13am | Report comment
I rate the Eagles, Pies or Bombers but think it will be a Eagles v Pies GF.
LeCras is out for the season, the Big 3 will begin becoming available between rounds 15-18 in a 23 game season. Can Kennedy, Embley & Nicoski get finals fit in 5-6 weeks? Smith & Hams get back sooner.
Embley is a certain Top 5-10 starter in this team, especially on GF Day. He is the Norm Smith Medallist in the 2006 flag, he’s played in 2 GF’s, he’s battle hardened, he’s inspirational and he can turn a game, if he’s fit and in touch Woosha will play him.
Good article, I hope you’re right! Go Eagles!
May 30th 2012 @ 5:08am
Redb said | May 30th 2012 @ 5:08am | Report comment
The Essendon Football Club and it’s supported would like to distance themselves from Luke Darcy’s premature ramblings about our club.
But I’m afraid we must also remind young Sophie that the Bombers smashed the Eagles like guitars a few weeks ago in the big smoke. Essendon has better speed & outside run than head ducking cheats from across the Nullabor.
Yes the Eagles will benefit from home finals however the big dance is in Melbourne and two giants of the competition in Collingwood & Essendon stand in their way.
Good luck Weagles your gunna need it.
May 30th 2012 @ 9:52am
Nathan of Perth said | May 30th 2012 @ 9:52am | Report comment
I imagine most people with multiple synapses like to distance themselves from Luke Darcy.
Big dance may be in Melbourne but the neutral crowd makes that relatively meaningless. After all, in four hit outs at the ‘G we have won three, including both that were against Victorian opposition (and wouldn’t the Cats like to repay those).
May 30th 2012 @ 4:04pm
Redb said | May 30th 2012 @ 4:04pm | Report comment
West Coast have been in the 1991, 1992, 1994, 2005 and 2006 GF’s. Thats six (one at Waverley).
You’ve won 3 out of 6.
May 30th 2012 @ 4:16pm
Nathan of Perth said | May 30th 2012 @ 4:16pm | Report comment
Christ, Redb you can’t even count.
And Waverley isn’t the ‘G so I didn’t include it – the Big Dance is not at Waverley anymore!
May 30th 2012 @ 4:39pm
Redb said | May 30th 2012 @ 4:39pm | Report comment
Lucky one of us can
May 30th 2012 @ 6:35pm
andrew said | May 30th 2012 @ 6:35pm | Report comment
No that is five…. we have won 3/5 which isn’t a bad record.
July 27th 2012 @ 10:14am
Cj said | July 27th 2012 @ 10:14am | Report comment
Eagles will not win the grand final the hawks will
They will vs Sydney and win by12 points although eagles can still win the flag if they pull their act together but hawks will definitely be in the gf go eagles
September 29th 2012 @ 10:05pm
Sarah said | September 29th 2012 @ 10:05pm | Report comment
Cj, nice prediction of the two teams in the GF long before the finals series. Close with the margin, just around the wrong way!
May 30th 2012 @ 5:01pm
Aaron said | May 30th 2012 @ 5:01pm | Report comment
I’m afraid i must remind you that Essendon beat a very depleted West Coast outfit. No Naitanui, Embley, Priddis, Kennedy, Nicoski, Schofield, LeCras. Would like to see how the bombers would go without Ryder, Watson, Crameri, Stanton, Davey, Zaharakis…..they would struggle!! To be sitting on top with all our injuries is a very good effort. We have the most depth in the competition and come september will be a much more powerful side and the years to follow.
May 31st 2012 @ 12:00am
Lats said | May 31st 2012 @ 12:00am | Report comment
Mate.. let the worshipers of all that is black and red have their day in the sun.. we know who was in and who wasn’t.. doesn’t matter if they don’t
May 30th 2012 @ 6:42pm
andrew said | May 30th 2012 @ 6:42pm | Report comment
I’m sorry but wasn’t a bomber’s player found guilty of staging?
June 3rd 2012 @ 3:01am
Jack said | June 3rd 2012 @ 3:01am | Report comment
Hey redb, if I follow the logic you used in your post above the Dees are now a better team than the Eagles & Bombers. I just heard a massive THUD as you and the Bummers fell back to earth. Eagles best is better than the Bummers best on any ground, that’s a fact!
May 30th 2012 @ 8:33am
GrantS said | May 30th 2012 @ 8:33am | Report comment
Good article!
I agree with a lot of what you have to say but you seem to have “glossed over” a couple of points.
First, as pointed out by Redb, the Bombers didn’t just beat the West Coast Ducks they thrashed them to the tune of ten goals.
Second. The Duckers have had a lot of injuries and they will get SOME of these back by the finals, but the season is no where near over and they might sustain more injuries, which would almost certainly end their premiership hopes.
Third. As shown by Collingwood last year it is very difficult for a team that has been soundly beaten through the course of the season to turn it around in the finals.
Although I would like to think that Essendon are the likely flag winners it is still far too early and there are far too many contenders to say this. And yes, West Coast are one of those contender, but not to the extent of your article.
Are we required to put our second and third given names in now or is that just a personal thing because we don’t have hyphenated surnames?
May 30th 2012 @ 5:17pm
Mattman said | May 30th 2012 @ 5:17pm | Report comment
Ok has any official afl person said the eagles are duckers. When I played footy the first thing you really learn is keep your eye on the ball. Head over the ball. So enough with the duckers stuff. Have some imagination and don’t just be a parrot. And with the gf talk. We have not even got to the half way point in the season. Another couple of injuries to any of the better teams can and will change the finals outcomes.
May 30th 2012 @ 9:55am
Nathan of Perth said | May 30th 2012 @ 9:55am | Report comment
Honestly though, you’d think a team with such a knack for “accidentally” injuring key opposition players early in games (Carrazzo, Priddis) would tone down on the cheating claims, but I suppose “Big Lie” and all that.
May 30th 2012 @ 10:07am
Dan said | May 30th 2012 @ 10:07am | Report comment
A very good article. I am a die hard WCE supporter but not as confidant as you are . To the 2 Bummers supporters Redb & GrantS yes the Bummers spanked the Eagles but I doubt the club is very concerned. They lost to the form team of the comp, who were playing their best football. The Eagles haven’t come close to playing their best football, they were missing 8-9 of their best 22 and the Eagles were only smashed in 1 quarter of fantastic footy by Essendon.
As it stands now the Biggest threats for the flag are Collingwood, West Coast, Adelaide-Essendon in that order. Sure other teams might move into the mix but these 4 teams have been better than the rest in 2012.
May 30th 2012 @ 4:09pm
Redb said | May 30th 2012 @ 4:09pm | Report comment
Dan,
We played you without Hurley, Hille, Winderlich,etc In that 3rd qtr we blew the Eagles off Etihad. I don’t think the Eagles hold much fear for Essendon in Melbourne.
Also note my distancing from Darcy’s comments about Essendon.
Collingwood the biggest threat to all, been saying it for weeks.
May 30th 2012 @ 11:33pm
DanMan said | May 30th 2012 @ 11:33pm | Report comment
Granted, Hurley is a big out – but seriously, Hille and Winderlich? are they even in the best 22 any more? WCE had way more stars out than Bombers. Having said that the Bombers were extremely good in that game. Speed is their greatest asset.
May 30th 2012 @ 11:20am
Jack said | May 30th 2012 @ 11:20am | Report comment
redb, you’re supposed to be a guru, what’s with the ducker comments, you obviously haven’t watched the eagles games or listened to expert analysis like Paul Roos and 95% of the other experts who say they arent ducking, get with the times son, you must follow Dwayne Russell and the 5% of journos that wont let it go.
Round 6 with 9 players out of the starting 18 injured on a small little ground like Eithad without Nic Nat, Selwood, Schofield, Priddis and the other 5 players mentioned in the article is nothing like Sept at the MCG mate, hilarious to even compare but hang on to that for a few months won’t you.
Eagles & Pies have a lot more upside in them, Bombers can’t play much better, the other two teams can. Line up these 3 teams on the MCG on GF day and the Eagles & Pies would both beat the Bombers I’m sure. Maybe next year for you guys but not this year (barring any more major injuries to these 2 teams of course).
May 30th 2012 @ 4:01pm
Redb said | May 30th 2012 @ 4:01pm | Report comment
Jack,
I attended the Essendon v West Coast game and the ducking was less becuase it was under scrutiny, although there were loud boos evry time a certain Eagles players swished his head like a synchronised swimmer.
I have not stated Essendon are number one, far from it I disputed Luke Darcy’s assertion.
The articles suggests West Coast are a shoe in – that is simply not based in fact.
Signed
Guru
May 30th 2012 @ 4:20pm
Nathan of Perth said | May 30th 2012 @ 4:20pm | Report comment
Dear Guru,
How does one become a Guru when when one cannot count to five successfully?
Regards,
Skeptical of Perth
May 30th 2012 @ 11:24am
Dave said | May 30th 2012 @ 11:24am | Report comment
Great article but as has been pointed out, West Coast will be without Le Cras for the season. The remaining missing forwards are what’s hurting us the most at the moment. Embley should be back in around 5 weeks with Nicoski and Kennedy shortly after that.
There’s no doubt that they will only come back when 100%; but they are tough, experienced players – Kennedy missed pretty much the whole pre-season and kicked 7 in round 1.
If anything though the host of injuries and suspensions that we have had have enabled the young and new blokes to go out and put their hand up – Hill has almost cemented his spot even when Nicoski and Kennedy return, Sheppard is playing like a bloke with 3 seasons under his belt; Gaff is turning into a superstar etc etc
As to the loss we had against Bombers, to be honest the boys had a fade out; we had a multitude of injuries but that’s no excuse. We were outplayed on the day and that’s what it comes down to. If I was a Bombers fan I would be hoping like hell that you don’t end up playing a final against West Coast at Patersons – what’s your record there again?
May 30th 2012 @ 11:27am
Cameron Rose said | May 30th 2012 @ 11:27am | Report comment
From what we have seen this season, only one thing is perfectly clear – there is no way to accurately and confidently predict the premiership winner this far out, although Sophie has put forward a compelling case here.
It will come down to the team that has the healthiest squad in the best form come September.
Collingwood had a host of players returning from injury/suspension at the wrong time last year, and it ultimately cost them dearly. As Sophie points out, the returning Eagles will need to be carefully managed so they’re not all returning at the same time.
As it stands, all we can acknowledge is teams that have the potential to be a major player in the finals if things go their way. West Coast are at the top of this list, followed in my opinion by Essendon and Collingwood, although I do think the Pies depth will get found out in the heat of September, because all teams will continue to suffer injuries, and their list of able replacements is getting shorter.
Given the right circumstances, and finding the right form, Carlton and Hawthorn can be a genuine threat, Geelong are but a shadow of themselves but can’t be entirely discounted if (and it’s a big if) they make the finals. If Adelaide are the best team in September they can also pinch it, but would need to finish top four to do so, while most other teams can do it from 5th-8th this year if need be.
May 30th 2012 @ 12:20pm
Nathan of Perth said | May 30th 2012 @ 12:20pm | Report comment
The comforting thing is that Woosha has proven to be a very talented and adept man-manager and their medical team is both well-funded and strong.
May 30th 2012 @ 4:15pm
Redb said | May 30th 2012 @ 4:15pm | Report comment
Hmmm yes the Eagles medical team are very good with syringes I beleive.
May 30th 2012 @ 4:18pm
Nathan of Perth said | May 30th 2012 @ 4:18pm | Report comment
I’ll bow to your knowledge of delivery methods.
May 30th 2012 @ 4:46pm
Redb said | May 30th 2012 @ 4:46pm | Report comment
Typical ducker, bowing your head.
May 30th 2012 @ 11:56am
Geoff said | May 30th 2012 @ 11:56am | Report comment
Some flaws in this article – don’t get me wrong, a few of your points are valid and I do personally believe that WCE will challenge heavily for a premiership in 2012 but to support your statement with such invalid opinions makes this article hit miss.
Give the West Coast Eagles the flag now? You have to be joking. Just like give Collingwood the flag after round 6 last year as well yes? The amount that can change between now and september is endless.
To ridicule Luke Darcy who as you quoted about WCE has “been there, done that”, and tell him that his opinion is wrong is staggering. Because you assume your opinion is the only right one?
“At present they are playing without Mark Le Cras, Andrew Embley, Mark Nikoski Josh Kennedy, Ashton Hams” – “If the WCE are able to stagger the return of these players over the second part of the season it gives the club immeasurable depth”.
Couple of issues, one beginning with Mark Le Cras not returning in 2012. Embley, Nicoski** (not Nikoski) and Kennedy all have month long injuries. It is proven that all three issues that these players have (shoulder, hamstring and ankle respectively) will take considerable time to recover let alone hit the ground running prior to September. Particularly Kennedy with his size will take quite some time to gain match fitness and hit the levels he was previously.
“Traditional rovers Luke Shuey and Chris Masten” – In what world is Chris Masten a traditional rover? Please define your idea of a traditional rover. I’d really back Masten to go in fringe first on those cold days in September. Dane Swan and Chris Judd are traditional rovers, not Chris Masten.