Wales expects, Ireland hopes, and England thinks wishfully
By Paul Cully, 30 May 2012
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Europe’s finest will pack all manner of feelings, alongside the passports and good behaviour guides, as they depart for a three-pronged assault on the southern hemisphere.
There will be excitement, trepidation and perhaps a touch of less-than-sincere gratitude to their administrators for arranging the a three-Test series at the end of a gruelling schedule that reads World Cup, domestic grind through winter, Six Nations, domestic finals and outbound tour.
Emanating from each camp will be the usual reassurances that they are getting on that plane to win every Test, but I suspect a truer state of affairs can be summed up like this: expectation (Wales), hope (Ireland) and wishful thinking (England).
Predictions about this Wallabies v Wales series are based on shifting sands, which seem to be moving almost daily based on a flurry of medical updates: first Kurtley Beale is on the surgeon’s slab and then suddenly in contention again; Ben Lucas is initially excluded but now has proved his fitness; and Warren Gatland might make it out of his wheelchair for the second Test.
The Wallabies’ news might be enough to send fans with a nervous disposition scurrying towards the drinks cabinet. The unpleasant footage of James Horwill’s injury immediately made you wonder about its severity and those fears appear to be justified. There is no obvious replacement for the big man and Nathan Sharpe’s pace around the park is befitting of a man now in the final stages of a long race.
The reason why Horwill will be missed so much is because – despite a bewildering array of names being proposed this week – the Wallabies are, in reality, fairly settled in terms of selection. There is a core of about a dozen players who, injury permitting, will play most games and the captain is clearly at that top table. Additionally, while there might be up to four options of comparable quality to cover No.6/No.8, the shelf directly below Horwill is emptier.
It is just speculation but his demise adds to the feeling that any potential physical advantage enjoyed by Australia, due to the length of the Welsh players’ season and their long trek from home, might be dwindling.
The Welsh, moreover, have developed a reputation for being one of the most meticulously prepared teams in the world. It does not always tally with a previous reputation of relishing the game’s more social aspects, but sports science has become one of their weapons.
Their whip-cracker is a former AIS man, Adam Beard, and their cryotherapy sessions have entered folklore. Crucially, their players believe they are the fittest in the world. They believe they can go into the last 20 minutes with enough in the tank to close out the tight games. And belief is half the battle for sides heading to the southern hemisphere.
The Irish mood as they head to New Zealand is much less sanguine.
Leinster might have won a third consecutive Heineken Cup but all that has done is cast a light on the contradiction between sustained provincial success and Test mediocrity. Coach Declan Kidney is a man under pressure, with questions being asked about how the Kiwi coaching set-up at Leinster can get the best out of Johnny Sexton and company while they struggle to reproduce that in green shirts.
And despite the strong links between the countries, the Irish don’t give much attention to chatter about the departure of Jerome Kaino and the form of Ali Williams. The presumption is that the 22 men the All Blacks put out will be ready to play come Test time. Besides, the Irish win column remains naked in contests between the two. Expectations are being played down, especially as Stephen Ferris has been lost to injury and Paul O’Connell is a major doubt. But that might not be a bad thing this time around.
England, however, are in a different position.
Perhaps emboldened by an entertaining final (take note, Brumbies and Reds) to wrap up their domestic season and a run in the sun against the Barbarians, commentators such as Will Greenwood have been wondering aloud if England could do something in South Africa.
Green shoots of recovery under new coach Stuart Lancaster have been detected after a comical World Cup campaign.
I am not so sure. The English were coming off a very low base post-New Zealand and although they destroyed Ireland in the final Six Nations game, Andy Farrell’s subsequent rejection of the back-line coaching job has muddied the waters. Wayne Smith also declined the opportunity so Mike Catt is now in charge of attack. From the outside the coaching set-up looks a little green.
They have also lost blindside breakaway Tom Croft, who flourished on the hard South African grounds during the Lions tour of 2009, and are sweating on the availability of Manu Tuilagi, probably their only back who can consistently challenge the gainline.
Conversely, expect the South Africans to have a lot of clarity about their work, even though they are under a new coach. With preparation time limited they will keep it simple. And while Northern Hemisphere journalists still make a sport of taunting Super Rugby about a lack of tackling, the South Africans have enough heavy ball carriers to pummel England into submission and resist any counter punches.
England will do well to avoid a whitewash in the Republic.
Indeed, of the nine Tests played in the three series, it is difficult to find more than a combined total of two, perhaps three, wins for the touring sides.
I think Australia have enough to win their series, but it’s a belief founded on those uncertain and shifting sands mentioned earlier.
Paul Cully is a freelance journalist who was born in New Zealand, raised in Northern Ireland, but spent most of his working life in Australia. He is a former Sun-Herald sports editor, rugby tragic, and current Roar and RugbyHeaven contributor.
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May 30th 2012 @ 7:02am
Untimely said | May 30th 2012 @ 7:02am | Report comment
Good stuff, Paul. The report in Rugby Heaven re Beale is noncomprehensible so we’ll have to wait until his condition is clarified to know if a second and/or third test appearance is on the cards. Horwill’s injury is mysterious, too. He had ice under his thigh when he came off but he said he heard a pop which is more like a plantaris tendon rupture.
Re. the twelve tests – I’ll go out on a limb and predict a Scotland win over Fiji, and a loss to the Wallabies and the Samoans. The ABs 3-0 over Ireland, alas. The Boks 3-0 over England who don’t have enough big guns to win in Durban and little hope after that up on the veldt. True, Ashton is back to be being dangerous – a hat trick last Saturday – but Flood, even with a repaired ankle, is too slight for Saffers coming at him at pace. Farrell will do a better job but will be starved at the breakdowns. England lineout will be pressured without Croft. And Hartley will be facing Bismark – no contest.
I’m picking Wales 2-1 mainly because they’re in shape and the Wallabies aren’t. Quade isn’t ready to play S15 let alone tests, and there’ll be little midfield thrust. A reduced second row to counter Wyn Jones and Charteris, and two good Aussie front rowers do not equal Jones, Jenkins and James. Genia and Digby, Higgers and Pocock can’t do it all.
May 31st 2012 @ 8:59am
Coxinator said | May 31st 2012 @ 8:59am | Report comment
Plantaris tendon? I don’t think he had any calf symptoms or swelling.
Perhaps you mean gracilis or semtendinosis?
May 30th 2012 @ 7:22am
kingplaymaker said | May 30th 2012 @ 7:22am | Report comment
Top article.
The saddest sight I have seen in sport is the shot of Declan Kidney exclaiming in despair in the Wales/Ireland quarter final in the second half as I think Wales scored: the game was just in the balance but this was a near-fatal blow. At this point Kidney just knew his team would lose. It’s rare that you see someone and their reaction at a precise moment when their life’s work goes up in flames.
Wales never quite do as well as they should and their players aren’t quite good enough. If Australia can match them in the forwards, it should be straightforward.
It’s funny how neither Ireland with their successful provincial teams not Wales seem to be improving their playing pool. Scotland of all places have increased their pool by 50% in the past few years by bringing the game into schools but there seems to be no comparable movement in Ireland or Wales.
The Irish still rely on ancient figures such as BOD and Paul O’Connell and there really should be more young guns coming through. I don’t know if Kidney is such a bad coach as made out sometimes: he doesn’t have much to work with. Ireland and Wales should follow Scotland’s lead and dramatically increase participation through schools.
Lancaster looked and selected like an average coach in the Six Nations, not a joke of a coach like Martin Johnson, but average nonetheless. The team he puts out won’t be the best he could nor is it likely that it will be coached that well either. The South African team will be ferociously motivated for any number of reasons too, and much better coach than recently however good or bad Meyer is.
May 30th 2012 @ 7:39am
Moaman said | May 30th 2012 @ 7:39am | Report comment
KPM–I had the dubious pleasure of attending a Convent School run by Irish Nuns and not only was rugby “introduced” to us-we were more or less forced to play! If Ireland is anything like that I’m sure they have plenty of rugby to shake hands with
May 30th 2012 @ 7:42am
kingplaymaker said | May 30th 2012 @ 7:42am | Report comment
It’s probably better to be forced by nuns than anyone else, depending on the nuns
May 30th 2012 @ 7:44am
Moaman said | May 30th 2012 @ 7:44am | Report comment
Not these nuns!!
May 30th 2012 @ 9:05am
Ben S said | May 30th 2012 @ 9:05am | Report comment
Again… Martin Johnson wasn’t a coach. Also, you previously stated you didn’t insult head honchos/coaches/DOR.
Did you watch the Heineken Cup final? Did you see O’Driscoll play? Did you see O’Connell’s form in the 6N? What young guns? David Kearney? McFadden? Gilroy? Murray, Sexton, Trimble, Bowe, Earls and Rob Kearney are hardly old either.
May 30th 2012 @ 10:55am
Riccardo said | May 30th 2012 @ 10:55am | Report comment
O’Driscoll’s blind pass shows he’s still got the goods Ben. Not sure he has the pace but he isn’t too old to tour and remains an able defender.
But mate, how good was Sean O’Brien?
May 30th 2012 @ 11:01am
Ben S said | May 30th 2012 @ 11:01am | Report comment
O’Driscoll is such a clever, clever player, and still so instinctive too. Only a fool would write off players like him and Conrad Smith. They’re just such classy players.
O’Brien is a beast. It’s a huge loss that Stephen Ferris isn’t touring, but O’Brien has been out of sorts on the openside. Hopefully he’ll get a run at 6 and show people what he can do. Such a brutal athlete. Not sure if Kidney will move him to 6 and bring in another player at 7, or keep him at 7.
May 30th 2012 @ 12:59pm
Wales15 said | May 30th 2012 @ 12:59pm | Report comment
Every comment I have seen you write, it is always negative towards Wales. Your are wrong about the players being not quite good enough. We have one of the best opensides, centre, wing and prop (if you go by recent years) in the world. You could even stretch to the 9 as one of the best.
You obviously know nothing about Wales. They’re absolutely mad about rugby, it is played in pretty much every comprehensive (high) school. It’s rugby league which needs to be spread. If anything it’s Scotland who need to follow the Welsh and Irish because they’re struggling for decent players and most people don’t give a monkeys about the game in that area.
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May 31st 2012 @ 1:00am
Kevinmeath said | May 31st 2012 @ 1:00am | Report comment
Rugby is played in most (if not all) schools in Wales, the Welsh team is young– the oldest back is Philips (30) and the youngest is a teenager and the rest are in their early to mid-20′s, the Captain is 22 and is the oldest of the backrow. One of the comments about this season has been that where before Wales really struggled beyond their match day 22 (15 even) now they are developing some strength in depth (although not at tighthead where they have 1!).
I don’t think that can be said for Scotland who have a much smaller pool of players.
Rugby is not played in all Irish schools (private boys schools yes) GAA is but the clubs and some schools (St Pats in Navan is a prime example) are trying to ‘spread the word’. However first came to Ireland in the mid-90′s and you would hardly see a rugby ball or jersey now 2012 you will see Munster and Leinster jerseys everywhere and on greens its not unusual to see lads playing a quick game of rugby. At my school the Nuns even come up to me to discuss ‘the game’ on saturday not soccer or GAA but the Leinster-Ospreys game. Thinks to Munster/Leinster winning I would say rugby in Ireland is in very good health.
Now a question would be with Leinster and Munster dominating the European cup why hasn’t the international side dominated Europe?
May 30th 2012 @ 7:28am
Pot Hale said | May 30th 2012 @ 7:28am | Report comment
“Ireland and Wales should follow Scotland’s lead and dramatically increase participation through schools.”
What does this mean exactly? What increase in participation through schools are you talking about?
May 30th 2012 @ 7:39am
kingplaymaker said | May 30th 2012 @ 7:39am | Report comment
Scotland increased their playing numbers by 50% over the past few years by introducing the game to a mass of new secondary schools. Ireland and Wales could presumably do the same if they wanted. Australia could do the same.
May 30th 2012 @ 12:54pm
jeznez said | May 30th 2012 @ 12:54pm | Report comment
Met a young Scottish bloke here in Singapore a little while ago. He’d been a Scotland Schools player but told me of the ineptitude of the Scottish RU. He had planned to go to university in London and was keen to continue progressing up the ranks in Scottish rugby.
He claimed that the Scottish RU told him that if he didn’t go to university locally and play locally (ie within Scotland) then he would not be considered for any higher rep teams. In the end he gave the Union the finger and isn’t even doing his uni studies in the UK.
Only met the bloke once, we were on the lash so got no knowledge if he was legit – he did seem sincere though. If true it was a pretty damning inditement of the Scottish RU.
May 31st 2012 @ 9:14am
Coxinator said | May 31st 2012 @ 9:14am | Report comment
Having lived and worked with many Scottish sports teams and players, rugby had some real issues in terms of player numbers when I left in 2007.
National league clubs had on average just two senior teams each (including colts!), having had 6-7 sides each in the 90s. The SRU and it’s staff seemed to be entirely made up of the old elite schools brigade. Add to that that that it was £20 to go see a Edinburgh match with less than 5000 in attendance (at a 67000 capacity stadium) and you could easily see how the fall was happening.
I remember at that time a news report showed Scotland cricket had even more juniors than rugby so I hope this new schools plan is a success.
May 30th 2012 @ 7:34am
Moaman said | May 30th 2012 @ 7:34am | Report comment
Strikes me that Australians are more relaxed about the outcome of the upcoming series than their SANZAR brethren.Apart from injuries,the Wallaby camp is settled and if they drop a game(or 2) to Wales then-wtf? “We had injuries/early days “etc etc
On the other hand;NZ & RSA have new regimes installed and heavy expectations,as always,upon them and their players.The ABs have the added pressure of defending a legacy that stretches over a century,specifically an undefeated record against this opposition.Hansen and co certainly won’t want that record to go on their watch and particularly not first up.
I ,for one,will be a little nervous about this series.The Irish are usually tough and worthy opponents and are sure to front up again.Many of us here in NZ want to see some of the fresh,in-form talent introduced to blend with the established crop.Personally,I worry that conservatism will hold back some of them.A solid home win in the first Test is therefore vital
May 30th 2012 @ 9:36am
Riccardo said | May 30th 2012 @ 9:36am | Report comment
Moa,
The occularly challenged one here.
The other factor you may have not considered is our traditionally slow starts.
Just ask the French who revelled in this at Carisbrook in June 2009.
May 30th 2012 @ 11:08am
Moaman said | May 30th 2012 @ 11:08am | Report comment
Riccardo—I have thought about that but don’t give it too much credence really.Every team begins with a clean slate imo and this side will have plenty of reasons to avoid any complacency.Of course some rustiness and lack of combination may be evident but the tourists should be roughly in the same boat in that respect.That French series was abysmal….not the least for the ABs lack of any desire to score more points in the dying stages of the 2nd to retain the trophy.Brassed me off at the time.
May 30th 2012 @ 12:25pm
ohtani's jacket said | May 30th 2012 @ 12:25pm | Report comment
I don’t think the players understood about the aggregate in that French series. I remember Weepu mentioning he didn’t know anything about it otherwise he would’ve gone for the points. As it was, we were lucky to get out of that test match with a win.
The Irish have ran us close in June tests before, but if there are no major injuries in this weekend’s Super Rugby I think we’ll be okay. The biggest risk will be if they go with an experimental side in the third test.
May 30th 2012 @ 7:47am
Shungmao said | May 30th 2012 @ 7:47am | Report comment
There is every chane all 4 nations could go back north with a zero from twelve match stat, this would be an embarrassing result for Northern hemisphere rugby. The only challenge to this statistic will come from Wales v Wallabies tour, I think the Weslh will be at rugby world cup intensity, this reinvigorated rivalry between these teams of teenagers and early twenties gents is going to be the feature of all the down under tours.
May 30th 2012 @ 8:53am
Ben S said | May 30th 2012 @ 8:53am | Report comment
It wouldn’t really be an embarrassing result because Ireland has never beaten NZ and look at the last times SA dropped a Test at home to Wales or England.
May 30th 2012 @ 10:41am
Shungmao said | May 30th 2012 @ 10:41am | Report comment
Ben as a whole if it was 0 from 12 , I think the northern hem press will have a field day.
May 30th 2012 @ 11:03am
Ben S said | May 30th 2012 @ 11:03am | Report comment
And who listens to the NH press? The NH press seems to dislike the NH sides intensely. The standard of rugby journalism in England, for example, is terrible. I’d say a win or two would be seen as huge victories. Being nilled wouldn’t exactly be anything out of the ordinary.
May 30th 2012 @ 12:57pm
jeznez said | May 30th 2012 @ 12:57pm | Report comment
I thought they disliked the SH sides – is there anyone they do like?
May 30th 2012 @ 8:14pm
Ben S said | May 30th 2012 @ 8:14pm | Report comment
They like their pay cheques and themselves. They certainly don’t seem to pay much attention to rugby.
May 30th 2012 @ 1:15pm
steve.h said | May 30th 2012 @ 1:15pm | Report comment
Ben have you seen the final training South African training squad? Your take on it? The names excluded from the squad due to the fact that they are oversea’s based players but will be selected according to Meyer are Fourie Du Preez, Ruan Pienaar and Frans Steyn.
May 30th 2012 @ 8:21pm
Ben S said | May 30th 2012 @ 8:21pm | Report comment
I have seen the training squad, Steve, but I only read about Pienaar being included, and not the others. It’s your typical SA squad tbh: big athletic men, some kickers, some pace. There’s some promising young talent in the back five of the scrum – I’m hoping to see Etzebeh and Coetzee get a run against England, but I think there’s a lack of depth in the midfield and back three, with the SA wingers out and out wingers rather than being able to cover 15 too – apart from Aplon. I’d like to see De Jongh get a start because I think his footwork is outstanding. I am a big fan of Frans Steyn, but I’d start JdV at 12 for his Stormers connection with De Jongh.
The main issue, IMHO, is what tactics Meyer employs. The last time SA met and Flood and Croft went off injured SA could kick for territory and we couldn’t challenge Matfield. I’m not sure Bekker could replicate that dominance in the air, but I think Kruger could, and he has also spent a lot of time playing and training with Dylan Hartley. With Hougaard not being the sort of kicker that Du Preez was I think Morne Steyn will have a lot of responsibility, but equally Hougaard could really create problems around the ruck and get over the gainline, bringing players like Alberts on to the ball. It’s going to be an interesting series. Can’t wait.
May 31st 2012 @ 12:37am
Ivan said | May 31st 2012 @ 12:37am | Report comment
Bekker is injured. Fourie du Preez and frans steyn will start.
May 30th 2012 @ 8:24am
Manoa said | May 30th 2012 @ 8:24am | Report comment
If Ireland lose 3-0 to New Zealand and Tonga have a good PNC, then Tonga will move ahead of Ireland on the world rankings, therefore affecting the world cup draw in a big way.
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May 30th 2012 @ 8:27am
Manoa said | May 30th 2012 @ 8:27am | Report comment
KPM, the game has exploded in Ireland over the last 5 years. I would their growth in participation would be greater than Scotland’s.
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May 30th 2012 @ 8:52am
Brett McKay said | May 30th 2012 @ 8:52am | Report comment
The BaaBaas have beaten an Irish XV 29-28 this morning, for whatever that’s worth..
Great preview Paul, I reckon your summary of expectation, hope and wishful thinking is bang on. I did give England some hope of winning in Durban first up, but that would change if Tuilagi is ruled out. Plus, the Sharks likely ‘Bok contingent (and indeed, their whole team) has bounced back to form over the last fortnight. England could be in some trouble..
May 30th 2012 @ 9:07am
Joshy said | May 30th 2012 @ 9:07am | Report comment
What makes you think the Boks won’t know what to expect from Tuilagi? Super rugby Australian and New Zealand teams are both filled with island players with the same ability if not better. Francois Steyn and de Jongh (de VIlliers hopefully benched) will demolish the English and Samoan.
May 30th 2012 @ 9:15am
Ben S said | May 30th 2012 @ 9:15am | Report comment
The only problem there is the little fact that Frans Steyn won’t actually be playing.
May 30th 2012 @ 9:42am
Red Kev said | May 30th 2012 @ 9:42am | Report comment
Why not? I saw a news report that he had been signed by the Sharks for the rest of the Super Rugby season and was returning to South Africa in time for the series against England.
May 30th 2012 @ 9:47am
Ben S said | May 30th 2012 @ 9:47am | Report comment
I thought it was only those involved in the training squad? I read that Ruan Pienaar has been added to the squad.
May 30th 2012 @ 10:20am
Suzy Poison said | May 30th 2012 @ 10:20am | Report comment
Frans Steyn is at the training camp, next week, and is available for selection. However Meyer might select him on the bench for the first test, as he only has a few days to work with him.
May 30th 2012 @ 11:03am
Ben S said | May 30th 2012 @ 11:03am | Report comment
His name isn’t on the Planet Rugby list, Suzy.
May 30th 2012 @ 1:17pm
steve.h said | May 30th 2012 @ 1:17pm | Report comment
Frans Steyn just signed a 3 year contract with the Sharks and the Sharks stated they expect him in Durban after he has completed his duty with Springboks
May 30th 2012 @ 1:38pm
Suzy Poison said | May 30th 2012 @ 1:38pm | Report comment
From a Saffa site: “Meyer, talking at the conclusion of the Springbok planning camp held in Durban on Sunday and Monday, said that while he has long-term plans for Steyn, he is not sure at this stage whether he will be selected for the first test or that he will be available.” “There are a few things that need to be sorted out but hopefully he will be ready to play,” said Meyer.
May 30th 2012 @ 11:32pm
Ben S said | May 30th 2012 @ 11:32pm | Report comment
Cheers.
May 30th 2012 @ 9:57am
Brett McKay said | May 30th 2012 @ 9:57am | Report comment
knowing what to expect and then countering it are different things, though Joshy. And my thoughts on Durban being the best chance for England are more to do with England being fresh on tour and full of anticipation, and the game being played at sea-level, more than just Tuilagi. Once they go up to altitude, that all works against them..
May 30th 2012 @ 10:15am
Suzy Poison said | May 30th 2012 @ 10:15am | Report comment
Agree Brett. Durban is England’s best chance for a win, in a while.
May 30th 2012 @ 10:12am
Suzy Poison said | May 30th 2012 @ 10:12am | Report comment
That’s sounds a little over confident Joshy. You wouldn’t want to accussed of being an arrogant Saffa would you? Perhaps pay some respect to the opposition, this England team are on the rise. Meyer will be better than De Villiers, but the team has only a week to gel. Not sure if Frans Steyn will be selected first up. He only joins the Sharks in July. England have had a whole Six Nations, as a team with Lancaster. It is quite conceivable that England will win the first game at Sea Level in Durban. However, I expect the Boks to win the next two at altitude and get better as they gel as a team. But to gel as a new team, with a new coach in one week, is a massive ask.
May 30th 2012 @ 9:21am
Riccardo said | May 30th 2012 @ 9:21am | Report comment
England are in trouble Brett, for those injuries mentioned by Paul alone.
I am happy to be corrected but I had assumed for his 1st outing Meyer may stick with what he knows and build a Bulls’ style of game around Steyne?
May 30th 2012 @ 10:05am
kingplaymaker said | May 30th 2012 @ 10:05am | Report comment
I think so Riccardo. Look at this article. He sounds as bad as De Villiers although he can’t be.
http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/international/7013502/Meyer-brings-win-only-attitude-to-Springboks
May 30th 2012 @ 3:14pm
Rusty said | May 30th 2012 @ 3:14pm | Report comment
impossible
May 30th 2012 @ 8:56am
Manoa said | May 30th 2012 @ 8:56am | Report comment
Tuilagi has been cleared.
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May 30th 2012 @ 8:59am
kingplaymaker said | May 30th 2012 @ 8:59am | Report comment
Tuilagi cleared to play now.
May 30th 2012 @ 9:54am
Brett McKay said | May 30th 2012 @ 9:54am | Report comment
I think England are a chance in Durban again…
May 30th 2012 @ 10:02am
kingplaymaker said | May 30th 2012 @ 10:02am | Report comment
A chance of tossing the dwarves record distances?
May 30th 2012 @ 10:06am
Ben S said | May 30th 2012 @ 10:06am | Report comment
‘tossing the dwarves’?
May 30th 2012 @ 2:38pm
Carnivean said | May 30th 2012 @ 2:38pm | Report comment
A reference to the night out in NZ that the English had, where they tossed dwarves amongst other things.
I think the dwarf tossing record won’t go at sea level, but should be broken easily at alitude on the veldt.
May 30th 2012 @ 8:21pm
Ben S said | May 30th 2012 @ 8:21pm | Report comment
Good gag, but it didn’t actually happen. Just saying…
May 30th 2012 @ 8:37pm
allblackfan said | May 30th 2012 @ 8:37pm | Report comment
haskell will be part of the team so expect the record to fall!!