Ross Lyon, the wrong man for Fremantle
By johnhunt92, 31 May 2012 johnhunt92 is a Roar Guru
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New Fremantle coach Ross Lyon (Slattery Images)
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When Fremantle ushered in Ross Lyon as their new coach, it seemed that finally, the AFL’s least decorated club had found its ruthlessness to be successful. Nine rounds into the 2012 AFL season and that dream is turning into a nightmare.
Once again, it seems club Docker has erred towards making another rash decision in appointing Lyon.
2012 has seen a massive transformation at the Fremantle Football Club under Lyon. While comparatively, there are no major differences in stats between 2011 and 2012, the spirit and endeavour of the Fremantle side seems to have been lost in pre-season training.
Once a noble, spirited side, the current team are a pale shadow of their former selves, playing robotic stifling football that has no direction and no ‘B’ plan which was evident on Sunday in the derby.
The score of 5.6 (36) is just one stat that reflects the abysmal monotone nature of the Fremantle Football Club.
Against the Eagles on Sunday, the Dockers had 109 less disposals (294-403), 34 less inside 50s (34-60), a disposal efficiency of 67% (Eagles were 74%) and a staggering 68 less marks against the Eagles (68-136).
Fremantle are still 5-4 and still have time to fix it but with matches against resurgent teams in Adelaide and Richmond, the Dockers’ chances of finals are slimming by the day.
With this in mind, the question must be asked; were Fremantle right in sacking Mark Harvey for Lyon?
My answer is the same as it was when the deal was announced. No.
For all his faults, Harvey was unlucky last year not to make the finals with such a talented team. The players are attack-minded and when playing well, were a force in 2011.
When Lyon came to the club, I thought he could do Blighty at the Crows or a Rodney Eade at the Bulldogs and change his gameplan to suit the talent.
But he has resorted to a neo-conservative defensive gameplan in an effort to stifle oppositions.
It is a gameplan that worked at St Kilda (Lyon’s era was the most successful since the mid-60s) but is failing at Fremantle.
Mark Robinson of Fox Footy’s AFL 360 made an accurate point about why Fremantle are struggling under the new gameplan; Fremantle do not have the cattle for his gameplan.
Where St Kilda had the hardened footballers of Dal Santo, Riewolt, Milne, Hayes etc, Fremantle have a different complexion.
Players such as Stephen Hill, Nate Fyfe (until injured), Hayden Ballentine while good, lack that battle-hardened ethos Lyon’s game style demands.
Lyon however, continues to implement a plan where he does not have the cattle and he is fighting teams with a gameplan that is quickly becoming outdated.
Lyon was brought in to improve the Fremantle side but after nine rounds, the Dockers have not improved in season 2012 and seem to be heading backwards.
Players, who were outstanding in 2011, look lost in 2012, struggling in the new claustrophobic conditions imposed by Lyon.
Fremantle made a mistake in appointing Ross Lyon, who is a good coach in the wrong settings.
The club needed someone who could use the talents at his disposal, not a coach who is trying to build something with the wrong tools.
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May 31st 2012 @ 7:52am
Brewski said | May 31st 2012 @ 7:52am | Report comment
WA footballers are bought up on big fast open grounds, and generally their open style reflects it.
Lyon has a defensive, rugby style, mauliing, scragging, pack game that requires everyone to be a inside midfielder, Hill, Fyfe etc are not these type of players, they will be injured far more.
Watters was available …….. Freo boy !! hello
May 31st 2012 @ 8:04am
Redb said | May 31st 2012 @ 8:04am | Report comment
Ross Lyon is football death by suffocation. Nuff said.
May 31st 2012 @ 8:50am
TomC said | May 31st 2012 @ 8:50am | Report comment
‘Once again, it seems club Docker has erred towards making another rash decision in appointing Lyon.’
A rash decision would be making your mind up about a coach when he has been in charge for nine games. Particularly when he’s won more than half of them.
I’m not a fan of Lyon, but its ridiculous to make the kinds of sweeping statements that this article does.
May 31st 2012 @ 9:17am
langou said | May 31st 2012 @ 9:17am | Report comment
The criticism of Lyon has been really silly. After 7 rounds we were 5 and 2 with our two loses being against Carlton in which we kicked 7.15 to 10.5, and a full strength Sydney at the SCG losing by 13 points. We have lost the last two in terrible fashion but it is only round 9, and as much as it hurts to say this, the Eagles are a genuine premiership contender, who will beat allot of teams in the same way they did us. As for Ross not having a plan B, only time will tell.
May 31st 2012 @ 9:30am
chromis said | May 31st 2012 @ 9:30am | Report comment
“For all his faults, Harvey was unlucky last year not to make the finals with such a talented team. The players are attack-minded and when playing well, were a force in 2011″
Did you even do any research? Dockers a force in 2011? In 2011 they had massive issues with injuries. Perhaps you mean the previous year 2010?
Another media hack jumps on-board to put the boot in and get a bit of publicity for themselves.
May 31st 2012 @ 10:37am
dockersfan said | May 31st 2012 @ 10:37am | Report comment
Who even thinks up these articles? hahah ridiculous and based on fancy not fact.
Journalists are going to start realising that the tide is turning against them with these utterly stupid articles.
May 31st 2012 @ 10:42am
Nathan of Perth said | May 31st 2012 @ 10:42am | Report comment
I’d love to see the Dockers get up but … on the plus side, from what I’ve heard, there has been a surge in professionalism at the club in terms of training and administration brought on by Ross Lyon, so even if he can’t get the goods onfield, he might be able to position them well off-field.
On another note, 74% DE against a team and strategy like Ross Lyon brought in is pretty good.
May 31st 2012 @ 5:28pm
amazonfan said | May 31st 2012 @ 5:28pm | Report comment
DE?
June 1st 2012 @ 11:33am
Nathan of Perth said | June 1st 2012 @ 11:33am | Report comment
Disposal Efficiency.
June 1st 2012 @ 7:49pm
amazonfan said | June 1st 2012 @ 7:49pm | Report comment
Thanks.
May 31st 2012 @ 11:15am
Tom said | May 31st 2012 @ 11:15am | Report comment
Poor journalism. Seems like people have gotten bored of tearing Mark Neeld and the Demons apart so they move to Lyon and Freo. They lost to the Hawks in Tassie and a rampaging Eagles unit. While their performances were uninspiring, they were 5-2 at one point, 6 months into a coaches 5 year tenure, after a complete overhaul of a game plan no less. There has been a shocking decline in the professionalism and quality of these so-called “experts” that jump from one thing to the next and make uneducated and “rash” observations.
May 31st 2012 @ 11:51am
NK said | May 31st 2012 @ 11:51am | Report comment
18 Months ago the Football world wanted Woosha’s head to roll and now he is the getting accolades thrown left, right & centre. Freo have lost to teams above them but not currently below. I think it is way to early to judge Lyon or the team at present. West Coast have been thrashing nearly everyone they have played so far this season so the last 2 weeks aren’t a true sign of where Freo stands. They might not be a top 8 team but there are other sides in allot worse position on & off the field then freo.
June 1st 2012 @ 8:40am
GrantS said | June 1st 2012 @ 8:40am | Report comment
“Freo have lost to teams above them but not currently below.”
As there are more teams above them than below this means they will lose a lot more games which will mean that there will be even more teams above them so they will…………..etc.
May 31st 2012 @ 12:29pm
Redb said | May 31st 2012 @ 12:29pm | Report comment
Is Sandilands injured? If not its up to the coach to get the best out of him and adjsut the game plan to suit.
Freo has talent but it appears to be wasted on the overtly defensive game plan of Ross Lyon. Only Paul Roos defends him , he blames the Freo players.
Most sides have worked out how to counter the flood, frontal pressure,etc. They win contested ball and then use outside running speed and quick kicks to break it down. Lyon’s game plan is redundant.
May 31st 2012 @ 12:39pm
Nathan of Perth said | May 31st 2012 @ 12:39pm | Report comment
He has picked up some injury woes – I think being rushed back last year took some time of his career in the long run.
I don’t really know why he’s trying to apply that game plan to that playing group. I really don’t. That playing group was not built for that style of play and unless he can pull off the busiest and most successful trading week in the history of the AFL this off-season I do not see where he will get this list from.
May 31st 2012 @ 6:01pm
Redb said | May 31st 2012 @ 6:01pm | Report comment
Changing the list won’t fix the game plan.
May 31st 2012 @ 6:09pm
Nathan of Perth said | May 31st 2012 @ 6:09pm | Report comment
But it might at least get him a team suited to his game plan since he doesn’t seem to be clever enough to create a game plan for his team!
June 1st 2012 @ 3:24pm
Redb said | June 1st 2012 @ 3:24pm | Report comment
Won’t help mate. St Kilda built their list off priority picks with some of the best players in the comp and they couldnt be set free to kill sides. Freo cant rebuild unless they bottom out for a few years.
St Kilda in its dominant 2009 year was killed by speed – Essendon in Round 20. The game plan exposed – now all sides are beating it.
June 1st 2012 @ 12:41pm
GrantS said | June 1st 2012 @ 12:41pm | Report comment
Why wouldn’t Roos defend him? He taught his team to play the same boring football.