First Test of year a challenge, says Smith
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Conrad Smith expects the short time to get a new All Blacks team ready will make Saturday’s first Irish Test a difficult one, but he’s looking forward to the challenge.
Ireland head to Eden Park on Saturday seeking their first victory over the All Blacks, and face a new coaching team with several big names now retired from Test rugby after last year’s World Cup triumph.
The All Blacks team is likely to feature some new Test players and Smith says the game will be a different Test from any other this year.
“There’s not just the post-World Cup factor but a different coaching crew, and every time you assemble there’s obviously fresh faces and there’s a few here,” he said.
“The fact that we’ve only got a few days to prepare for it will be a challenge, but in saying that there’s a lot of motivation that comes from that as well,” he said.
Smith said the team had discussed how they wanted to move on strongly from the World Cup, unlike the previous two winners, England and South Africa, which struggled the year after their success.
“There wasn’t World Cups back in the 50s and 60s for those great All Black teams. We talk about that and we just start new and this is our chance to add something to the legacy, and it starts this Saturday.”
Smith says he’s also motivated for his battle with Irish star Brian O’Driscoll, who he says is “as good as they get”.
“It’s always enjoyable, regardless of whether they’re Test matches or franchise games, when you’re playing centres you respect it adds a little bit to the game.
“It never pans out to be a one on one duel, but when you know the guy wearing the same jersey opposite you is as good as Brian O’Driscoll it carries a little bit of weight.”
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June 7th 2012 @ 6:55am
Skills & Techniques said | June 7th 2012 @ 6:55am | Report comment
And you can bet the ABs don’t tank in their first test of the season regardless of the weather or preparation time.
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June 7th 2012 @ 7:44am
moaman said | June 7th 2012 @ 7:44am | Report comment
Team is; Starting XV (tests):
1. Tony Woodcock (83)
2. Andrew Hore (62)
3. Owen Franks (31)
4. Brodie Retallick *
5. Samuel Whitelock (25)
6. Victor Vito (13)
7. Richie McCaw – captain (103)
8. Kieran Read (36)
9. Aaron Smith *
10. Daniel Carter (85)
11. Julian Savea *
12. Sonny Bill Williams (14)
13. Conrad Smith (55)
14. Zac Guildford (8)
15. Israel Dagg (12)
* Debut
Reserves:
16. Hikawera Elliot (2)
17. Ben Franks (15)
18. Ali Williams (73)
19. Adam Thomson (24)
20. Piri Weepu (56)
21. Aaron Cruden (9)
22. Ben Smith (2)
June 7th 2012 @ 7:49am
moaman said | June 7th 2012 @ 7:49am | Report comment
I’m really pleased with this team..considering who is away/ injured (Jane,Kahui,Toeava,Kaino,Mealamu eg) it is an exciting blend of tried and true and potential.That the management opted to insert the newcomers they did,first up,bodes well for the future and placates those of us who feared an ultra-conservative approach. Frankly I can’t wait to see that team in action.
June 7th 2012 @ 8:15am
Riccardo said | June 7th 2012 @ 8:15am | Report comment
Morning Moa,
Jeez, some of those names on your missing list have gravitas.
Nevertheless, I agree with you. This is a good balanced team and the right selections IMO.
Great to see Retallick, Savea and particularly Aaron Smith get their opportunities. Hika deserves his recall too.
Not going unfortunately. Waiting for the Rugby Championship to spend my hard earned but watching it with some friends on a 52 inch TV. Beers already in the chiller. Instructions for favourite picks have been delivered to the Mum-in-law (another AB nut and a caterer). It’s gonna be a hell of a weekend.
BRING IT ON!
June 7th 2012 @ 10:42am
moaman said | June 7th 2012 @ 10:42am | Report comment
I’m a little jealous of your arrangements for the match Riccardo…my setup will be a little more modest,and if there is any catering being done it will likely be me scurrying around
however-I believe I might even be a little bit excited about this series.A fresh side up against a doubty opponent.I hope there will be a contingent of Irish fans to brighten the event too.THe other matches on the weekend will be intriguing too so there’s going to have to be a degree of planning for this weekend.
Love the fact that Smith & Retallick are starting….was on tenterhooks on that score. To think we could have 3 Smiths on the park at once–despite the name’s rep as being garden-variety common,I doubt that has occurred before in black.No doubt old Nesbitt will trot out something droll….almost time for him to join Keith Q I reckon….anyway,roll on Saturday!
June 7th 2012 @ 11:12am
Riccardo said | June 7th 2012 @ 11:12am | Report comment
As long as Marshall’s there to balance the paroachialism.
Love his insight into the game from the commentary box.
June 7th 2012 @ 11:20am
moaman said | June 7th 2012 @ 11:20am | Report comment
Not to mention the odd malapropism or 2.
June 7th 2012 @ 12:22pm
jeznez said | June 7th 2012 @ 12:22pm | Report comment
like doubty instead of doughty?
June 7th 2012 @ 12:27pm
moaman said | June 7th 2012 @ 12:27pm | Report comment
Indeed Jeznez—–My spelling was great as a child but has regressed badly in recent years.Thanks for pulling me up on that though…..I needed a dose of humilty!
June 7th 2012 @ 12:34pm
jeznez said | June 7th 2012 @ 12:34pm | Report comment
I’m actually not sure what a malapropism is but was hoping that was one.
I like the word though – it has prop in it! Mal is like malicious. So Evil-Prop-ism?
June 7th 2012 @ 12:36pm
mania said | June 7th 2012 @ 12:36pm | Report comment
haha jeznez – i had to look it up but you nailed it by providing an example
malapropism: the unintentional misuse of a word by confusion with one that sounds similar.
June 7th 2012 @ 1:03pm
moaman said | June 7th 2012 @ 1:03pm | Report comment
Jeznez-very imaginative! Though I think “Evil-Prop” more oxymoron than malapropism.There are some beautiful examples of the definition in wiki,worth a quick scan ;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malapropism
I particularly liked Archie Bunker’s “Patience is a virgin” and Tony Soprano’s “Prostate with grief”
June 7th 2012 @ 2:44pm
moaman said | June 7th 2012 @ 2:44pm | Report comment
Jeznez—I have to correct myself and substitue ‘tautology’ for “oxymoron” regarding your Evil Prop joke.
June 7th 2012 @ 8:18am
mania said | June 7th 2012 @ 8:18am | Report comment
this is an awesome squad and hansen has impressed me by starting the rookies as opposed to bringing them on after half time. and wow what a bench. glad Savea starts and benSmith gets a chance to put his munster ghosts to rest
June 7th 2012 @ 9:16am
kingplaymaker said | June 7th 2012 @ 9:16am | Report comment
Great All Black team aside from the abominable Guildford: let’s hope there’s no hurricane on saturday so we can see what they can do.
June 7th 2012 @ 9:37am
mania said | June 7th 2012 @ 9:37am | Report comment
dont u mean conrad?
June 7th 2012 @ 9:56am
kingplaymaker said | June 7th 2012 @ 9:56am | Report comment
Conrad Smith vs Brian O’Driscoll: a match of the two most overrated players in the world!!
June 7th 2012 @ 10:02am
mania said | June 7th 2012 @ 10:02am | Report comment
haha KPM – i was waiting for the 1st conrad dig. you’ve been away?
BOD is a great. he’s a shadow of what he used to be but still one fo the best and smartest around.
conrad, well i know its a waste of time convincing u other wise but conrad rocks and will keep the backline together
June 7th 2012 @ 10:06am
kingplaymaker said | June 7th 2012 @ 10:06am | Report comment
mania it’s wonderful that these two sacred cows are coming face to face with each other. One thing’s certain, it will be easy for both of them to make breaks against each other’s defence but probably neither will be capable of doing so anyway!
June 7th 2012 @ 10:15am
mania said | June 7th 2012 @ 10:15am | Report comment
haha KPM- conrads so gonna kick some aussie butt this season
June 7th 2012 @ 10:19am
kingplaymaker said | June 7th 2012 @ 10:19am | Report comment
Unlikely, the All Blacks might and Smith can steal the credit, but it’s deeply improbable he will be doing much to contribute himself, even if he plays every single second.
Who’s his backup in the squad by the way or is SBW meant to move to outside centre if he’s injured?
June 7th 2012 @ 10:30am
mania said | June 7th 2012 @ 10:30am | Report comment
kpm – benSmith is the cover for the backs. if SBW’s injured i imagine savea moving in bSmith moving to wing. if conrad injured bSmith will slot straight into 12
June 7th 2012 @ 10:34am
kingplaymaker said | June 7th 2012 @ 10:34am | Report comment
mania as Kahui’s injured when the proper matches arrive there will doubtless be a SBW/Smith/Nonu in some combination, but if one of those is injured I wonder who is next in line as a specialist 12/13. Obviously both SBW and Nonu can cover 13 but that leaves a spot on the bench free….
June 7th 2012 @ 10:40am
mania said | June 7th 2012 @ 10:40am | Report comment
kpm- tamiti ellison will be the next cab off the rank if kahui is unavailable. he can cover 12/13/15 and the wings
June 7th 2012 @ 10:48am
kingplaymaker said | June 7th 2012 @ 10:48am | Report comment
I see.
Shame mania not to see Gear even on the bench here.
June 7th 2012 @ 10:53am
mania said | June 7th 2012 @ 10:53am | Report comment
yeah gear still has a lot to offer. but savea had to start and it was a toss up between guildford and gear. gear has more speed and power. guildford has a better workrate but can be prone to a lot of errors.
in super though guildfords been playing better
June 7th 2012 @ 10:59am
kingplaymaker said | June 7th 2012 @ 10:59am | Report comment
mania I’m happy with Savea but think Gear should have started ahead of Guildford who shouldn’t be playing ITM rugby.
Especially after Gear’s recommitment to New Zealand.
June 7th 2012 @ 11:11am
mania said | June 7th 2012 @ 11:11am | Report comment
kpm – normally i’d agree but gear has had a real quiet season this year. least we agree on savea
June 7th 2012 @ 11:24am
Riccardo said | June 7th 2012 @ 11:24am | Report comment
KPM,
You didn’t see Conrad score a try for the Canes against the Tahs? Or the chip-kick through for one of Savea’s tries in their routing of the Rebels?
You’re hard on Guilford. He’s earned this opportunity. He’s a classy finisher and combines well with Dagg at the back. Would have thought you’d be stoked with the debut of Savea though. Not only is the kid good but represents the sort of bigger player you prefer.
As for O’Driscoll. Clearly you didn’t watch the Heineken Cup final mate. He was on fire…
June 7th 2012 @ 11:34am
kingplaymaker said | June 7th 2012 @ 11:34am | Report comment
Riccardo Smith, BOD and Guildford are pretty much the most overrated players in world rugby. Guildford is little short of incompetent, regarless of his size. Dagg is an example of an excellent and not that large player. BOD does almost ZERO in attack and is a great myth.
Gear’s worst day is better than Guildford’s best and I don’t even think Gear’s that good.
June 7th 2012 @ 11:47am
mania said | June 7th 2012 @ 11:47am | Report comment
oh well KPM, that didnt lasy long. back to disagreeing with u
June 7th 2012 @ 11:48am
Riccardo said | June 7th 2012 @ 11:48am | Report comment
No KPM,
The most over-rated player in World Rugby would be Quade Cooper.
As you have replied to my post with your unsupported generic opinion again I’m afraid I can’t really talk to the other points as I have already addressed them.
June 7th 2012 @ 11:56am
kingplaymaker said | June 7th 2012 @ 11:56am | Report comment
Riccardo we’ve been through this before.
My only new addition is to observe that after watching never-ending matches with BOD involved it’s miraculous that he was ever described as more than an average player.
June 7th 2012 @ 9:42am
Ben S said | June 7th 2012 @ 9:42am | Report comment
Hurricane?
June 7th 2012 @ 9:50am
Pot Hale said | June 7th 2012 @ 9:50am | Report comment
….but it won’t be over till they clear his name, bahm, bahm, bahm, bahm…..
You know the words, Ben.
June 7th 2012 @ 9:51am
Ben S said | June 7th 2012 @ 9:51am | Report comment
Don’t dare bring Bob Dylan into this, Pot!!
June 7th 2012 @ 10:10am
Rusty said | June 7th 2012 @ 10:10am | Report comment
he could have been the champion of the world
June 7th 2012 @ 9:06am
Rusty said | June 7th 2012 @ 9:06am | Report comment
Woodcock? Really? Is he still the best loose head in NZ? Just take the entire Crusaders front row and reserves. Ali instead of Donnelly? Weepu instead of Ellis? and I know Vito has got big wraps but perhaps keep Richie on the blind and add one of the up and comer opens like his Canes team mate Jack Lam? or Todd?
That aside this is still a pretty damn good side but could be better
June 7th 2012 @ 9:37am
mania said | June 7th 2012 @ 9:37am | Report comment
Woodcock’s still the best in the world
June 7th 2012 @ 10:09am
Rusty said | June 7th 2012 @ 10:09am | Report comment
one of the best perhaps but I think given injury and form hardly the best. Franks would be ahead of him for sure
June 7th 2012 @ 10:14am
mania said | June 7th 2012 @ 10:14am | Report comment
ben franks isnt even close. rusty who do think would be better than woodcock?
woodcocks been playing for the blues and still dominating in the scrums. when woodcocks been injured the blues scrums have been demolished as soon as he’s vack they’re dominating again
June 7th 2012 @ 10:30am
Dc of nz said | June 7th 2012 @ 10:30am | Report comment
Woodcock will also play vs Australia because he is a natural try scorer against them !
June 7th 2012 @ 10:32am
Rusty said | June 7th 2012 @ 10:32am | Report comment
So the Blues are crap without him. Not really an indictment of him being back at his best. So better than Woodcock at this point?
Franks, Crockett, Taumalolo, Oosthuizen
All the above bring more to the game than the odd scrummage
June 7th 2012 @ 10:33am
Rusty said | June 7th 2012 @ 10:33am | Report comment
@Dc of nz – In that you are 100% correct
June 7th 2012 @ 10:38am
mania said | June 7th 2012 @ 10:38am | Report comment
rusty – crockett has only made it due to injuries to those above him. his technique is suspect and he struggles vs the big boys.
taumalolo is awesome better round the park than woodcock but not at scrum time and woodcocks scored more test tries
owenFranks is a THP, bFranks can play both but scrummaging wise is way below woodcock.
name some others
June 7th 2012 @ 11:03am
Sam Taulelei said | June 7th 2012 @ 11:03am | Report comment
Rusty
Taumalolo doesn’t qualify for NZ as he played for Tonga at the world cup last year.
June 7th 2012 @ 11:04am
Rusty said | June 7th 2012 @ 11:04am | Report comment
I think you misread what I am saying. Woodcock is great but I dont think his form at this point in his career is as good as it normally is or should be. I wouldnt be starting him as I think there are others who could start ahead of him e.g. Franks, Sona. But Hansen probably has made the right call as he will try get Tony up to speed from the start and then as he runs out of gas will bring Franks in to run amok. He will probably do this throughout the series to build up to the 4N.
Its a personaly preference but it was 4N time I would probably be starting Franks and maybe bring Taumalolo rampaging off the bench when the game gets looser
June 7th 2012 @ 11:30am
Rusty said | June 7th 2012 @ 11:30am | Report comment
No way Sam – Tonga’s gain then as he has developed into a very fine player. Is he playing in the Pacific Cup I wonder or sticking with the Chiefs?
June 7th 2012 @ 11:46am
Sam Taulelei said | June 7th 2012 @ 11:46am | Report comment
Rusty he’s sticking with the Chiefs and not playing in the PI Cup. This will be his last season with the Chiefs, he’s signed a 3 year deal with Perpignan from next year so they can enjoy watching that beaming smile after he’s scored yet another try.
June 7th 2012 @ 11:27am
Sam Taulelei said | June 7th 2012 @ 11:27am | Report comment
Rusty
I actually believed that Woodcock’s form when he returned to the Blues from his extended break was better than last year. He was more aggressive at the engagement and was putting his opposing tighthead props under enormous pressure. While he was on the park that was one aspect of the game the Blues actually looked good at.
June 7th 2012 @ 11:45am
Rusty said | June 7th 2012 @ 11:45am | Report comment
I know the scrum is a weapon but there is a bit more to it nowadays, defense, carries, breakdowns, turnovers, link play – that in mind would you say he is still the best LH in NZ?
June 7th 2012 @ 11:51am
Sam Taulelei said | June 7th 2012 @ 11:51am | Report comment
I still think his overall game offers a little more than Crockett.
The other alternative is Ben Franks but only because he can cover both sides and is not a specialist LH.
Ben May has been mentioned in some quarters but again he’s a specialist TH who can play both sides.
June 7th 2012 @ 12:12pm
Rusty said | June 7th 2012 @ 12:12pm | Report comment
Will swap you a LH for a TH option then!
June 7th 2012 @ 12:45pm
mania said | June 7th 2012 @ 12:45pm | Report comment
rusty – agree there is a lot more to rugby than just scrummaging…but, if its your primary role then you’d better be good at it. just like a hooker has to be able to throw in, half backs able to pass, 1st5 s able to kick, centres able to tackle. any prop worth his weight better be able to scrummage.
woodcocks the best in the world at what he does why wouldnt you pick him? he’s dominated every oppn he’s faced this season.
props get better with age. woodcocks in his prime at the mo
June 7th 2012 @ 2:29pm
Kuruki said | June 7th 2012 @ 2:29pm | Report comment
Woodcock like McCaw has suffered from injury. when he is fit which he is now he is the best LH in NZ.
June 7th 2012 @ 11:00am
Brett McKay said | June 7th 2012 @ 11:00am | Report comment
Moa, that’s a pretty handy side for the first Test of the year. Really happy to see Retallick, both Smiths, Savea getting their just rewards. Vito-McCaw-Read, sheesh, what do you say?
Guildford is somewhat surprising, but then without Cory Jane or Kahui, all the options are much of a muchness.
Mealamu being rested, I presume? Hika Elliot’s being going well for the Chiefs though, and Hore is always solid.
June 7th 2012 @ 11:19am
moaman said | June 7th 2012 @ 11:19am | Report comment
Mealamu’s calf-strain saw him left out,Brett.Only 2 question-marks for me were Ali’s inclusion in the squad and the selection of Guildford ahead of the more destructive Gear.I reckon that ZG got the nod on work-rate alone.He does read the game well and has the happy knack of popping up at the right time.All you can ask of a ‘finisher’ but I have long preferred a wing that can manufacture his own tries.When Anthony Boric is back on board I wouldn’t expect to see Williams again-unless he can pull something out of the fire here.As I commented earlier Brett-what I like most is that the young blokes are actually starting rather than being introduced for meaningless minutes at the death.Great sign from the new regime.
June 7th 2012 @ 11:47am
Brett McKay said | June 7th 2012 @ 11:47am | Report comment
yeah, that’s a good point Moa, about teh young punks starting rather than just getting four minutes at the end. And Aaron Smith and Savea especially deserve their spots, too.
Fair points on Guildford and Ali-W, and I’d probably forgotten about Gear, who has been in good form too. Nice problems to have, mate. I’ll swap you…
June 7th 2012 @ 11:48am
Team Taniwha said | June 7th 2012 @ 11:48am | Report comment
Will you see Boric again? Sounds like his back injury might be career ending.
June 7th 2012 @ 12:31pm
moaman said | June 7th 2012 @ 12:31pm | Report comment
I didn’t know that TT—that’s a real pity-I thought he was a really good player.Lock seems to be one area where stocks aren’t overflowing with talent saying “pick me!”.
June 7th 2012 @ 10:01pm
Chris said | June 7th 2012 @ 10:01pm | Report comment
don’t know why Jason Eaton is out of the picture as backup, had a very good ITM Cup for Taranaki as captain last year and has continued good form with Hurricanes; have read some say he’s not big enough but site lists him at 115kg, very mobile and doubles as a 6 sometimes.
June 7th 2012 @ 2:31pm
Kuruki said | June 7th 2012 @ 2:31pm | Report comment
Guildford got the nod ahead of Gear on current form and his combinations with DC and Dagg.
June 7th 2012 @ 2:42pm
moaman said | June 7th 2012 @ 2:42pm | Report comment
Kuruki; Wingers are often deemed ‘in-form’ if they dot down a few times;I would say that the majority of tries scored by Tikoirotuma/Guildford and Savea on the weekend were examples of finishing and very good finishing only. Rene Ranger’s tries were more created and those are the kind of tries I would hope are AB wings were capable of scoring every now and then.
June 7th 2012 @ 4:16pm
Kuruki said | June 7th 2012 @ 4:16pm | Report comment
It’s no coincidence that Guildford’s current form and try scoring has come at the same time Dan Carter has hit form. They are the Crusaders most effective combination on attack. He scores allot of tries off Carter not thru luck of being in the right place but through the knowledge of where he should be running, that’s why he got the nod…combination. He also forms a great combination with Dagg from back in the Hawkes Bay. Savea can create his own tries, he has a very good chip chase. Guildford can finish with his blistering speed, and when you have SBW and Carter inside you, finishing is all you need to worry about.
June 7th 2012 @ 10:19pm
Sylvester said | June 7th 2012 @ 10:19pm | Report comment
Agree that Guildford puts himself in the right position to score. Try 1 against Highlanders = right side, try 2 = left side.
It’s good to have a “busy” winger against teams that defend well.
Plus, his error rate has been very low, which is usually one of the criticisms of him.
June 7th 2012 @ 8:05am
Ben S said | June 7th 2012 @ 8:05am | Report comment
Pretty impressive team on paper IMO. Over the long-term Hansen needs to find an develop a lot of players, I think, but all things being equal this is a good and well integrated selection. I do think the next two seasons after this coming 4N (refuse to call it the Championship) might be difficult seasons, but in the interim period a winning start is what’s required. Looking forward to seeing how the newbies go.
June 7th 2012 @ 2:56pm
Jarmen said | June 7th 2012 @ 2:56pm | Report comment
Why do you refuse to call it the Championship Ben?
June 7th 2012 @ 8:46pm
Ben S said | June 7th 2012 @ 8:46pm | Report comment
Just think it’s a little childish, a little generic and bland. I liked the sound of the 3N, so I’m going with the 4N.
June 7th 2012 @ 9:51am
Pot Hale said | June 7th 2012 @ 9:51am | Report comment
15 Kearney, 14 McFadden, 13 O’Driscoll ©, 12 Earls, 11 Zebo, 10 Sexton, 9 Murray; 1 Healy, 2 Best, 3 Fitzpatrick/Ross, 4 Ryan, 5 Tuohy, 6 O’Brien, 7 O’Mahony, 8 Heaslip.
Is the team I’m hearing to be announced in an hour and a bit….
June 7th 2012 @ 9:53am
Ben S said | June 7th 2012 @ 9:53am | Report comment
Oh wow. Sonny Bill is going to have fun running at Keith Earls for 80 minutes.
June 7th 2012 @ 11:22am
moaman said | June 7th 2012 @ 11:22am | Report comment
” Sonny Bill is going to have fun running at Keith Earls for 80 minutes. ” Why is that Ben? Refresh my memory about Earls.
June 7th 2012 @ 5:07pm
katzilla said | June 7th 2012 @ 5:07pm | Report comment
5’11
90kgs
6’4
108kgs
June 7th 2012 @ 8:51pm
Ben S said | June 7th 2012 @ 8:51pm | Report comment
He’s not really an inside centre either, having spent most of his career flitting between the back three and 13.
June 7th 2012 @ 11:02am
Brett McKay said | June 7th 2012 @ 11:02am | Report comment
Pots, what’s Stephen Ferris’ situation?
June 7th 2012 @ 4:29pm
katzilla said | June 7th 2012 @ 4:29pm | Report comment
What’s this O’Mahoney like?
Seems quite tall for an openside? Mind you only slightly taller then McCaw.
June 7th 2012 @ 11:02am
Gary Russell-Sharam said | June 7th 2012 @ 11:02am | Report comment
Looks to be a good well balanced side a blend of youth and old nuts. They look fairly formidable. I would suggest an easy win by at least 15 – 20 for the ABs
June 7th 2012 @ 11:05am
Sam Taulelei said | June 7th 2012 @ 11:05am | Report comment
I think it will be closer, first test of the season, Ireland in recent times have been extremely competitive and came close to recording their first win on their last tour to NZ in 2009.
June 7th 2012 @ 11:28am
Chris said | June 7th 2012 @ 11:28am | Report comment
2009? No tour that year.
They last toured 2010, and lost 28-66 (New Plymouth, NZ) and same year 18-38 (Dublin). Before that, 2008 lost 3-22 (Dublin) and 11-21 (Wellington).
I went to the 11-21 game, that was the hypothermia match, bloody freezing – I think it was near freezing.
June 7th 2012 @ 11:55am
Sam Taulelei said | June 7th 2012 @ 11:55am | Report comment
Thanks Chris, you’re quite right
Man my memory is starting to fail me at times, I was actually thinking of the 2006 series when it took a late Troy Flavell try to secure the win.
Yeah my brother was at the Wellington match, ugly conditions.
June 7th 2012 @ 3:04pm
Jerry said | June 7th 2012 @ 3:04pm | Report comment
They should have played that match during the day – was sunny and clear. The wind and rain started at exactly 7pm, just after I got out of my car to walk to the stadium.
June 7th 2012 @ 9:58pm
Chris said | June 7th 2012 @ 9:58pm | Report comment
I’ll add here I was living/working in Wellington at that time, and had i not paid $99 weeks in advance I’d have stayed in a pub; as it was had a fantastic time in the company of a group of Ireland supporters, several of the men (but not women) were minus shirts and, ahem, rather critical of us moaning about the cold. “Call this cold . . .?”
June 7th 2012 @ 11:08am
flying hori said | June 7th 2012 @ 11:08am | Report comment
ABs by 6
June 7th 2012 @ 11:37am
nickoldschool said | June 7th 2012 @ 11:37am | Report comment
Nice side. Is SBW still a chance to stay with NZRU next season, any news since the Japan/NRL rumours? Like Hansen’s boldness to build a long term locks partnership.
June 7th 2012 @ 2:36pm
Kuruki said | June 7th 2012 @ 2:36pm | Report comment
I would bet my house on SBW staying put for another season. if he can secure a regular starting spot in the All Blacks he wont be going anywhere. He said he is happy at the Chiefs and rates his coaches as the best he has ever had. His boxing dreams will come to a grinding halt because now that he is NZ champ he has to step into the ring with the big boys. he said himself he has put boxing on the back burner this year as he knows he cannot do both and give them 100%. I think he will stay put for another year or so.
June 7th 2012 @ 4:25pm
nickoldschool said | June 7th 2012 @ 4:25pm | Report comment
thanks mate! hope you’re right (as a rugby and boxing fan!)
June 7th 2012 @ 12:09pm
DC of nz said | June 7th 2012 @ 12:09pm | Report comment
All eyes will be on Vito….we need him to be the new Kaino…
Zac is a bit lucky .. We prefer our wings to be able to beat the defence 1 on 1 but he is a good finisher and speedster … He should link well with the combos but I would prefer Savea Jane Dagg at the back with Gear and Ben Smith in the mix as well…
And good on Hansen … Picking Aaron Smith Sonny Bill and Savea shows he is committed to our tradition of lethal attacking rugby ….
June 7th 2012 @ 12:30pm
Sam Taulelei said | June 7th 2012 @ 12:30pm | Report comment
“All eyes will be on Vito….we need him to be the new Kaino…”
No we just need him to play well and fufil what’s required of the role. Vito is a different player to Kaino, just as Kaino is a different player to Jerry Collins. They all share similar attributes but the last two brought their own individual qualities to the position.
June 7th 2012 @ 12:34pm
mania said | June 7th 2012 @ 12:34pm | Report comment
agree sam – vito isnt into the putting in the big hits. since being sent away from the AB’s last year he’s come back a better player, simplified his role and upped his workload.
kaino couldnt do what vito does, he wouldnt have the puff for it. vito couldnt do what kaino does because his focus is different. what they have in common though is dogged determination.
jus like retalick will never be a bradThorne but he doesnt have to. all retalick has to do is contribute as much as posible to the team effort and let history define your style
June 7th 2012 @ 12:50pm
Rusty said | June 7th 2012 @ 12:50pm | Report comment
I am a Vito fan but for the sake of balance and argument
would it not be better to move McCaw to blind where he done pretty well this season and bring in someone like Lam/Todd?
June 7th 2012 @ 12:53pm
mania said | June 7th 2012 @ 12:53pm | Report comment
thats probably a good idea rusty. mccaws losing speed so could be a better 6. but it is mccaw and no matter where he is he’ll make a huge positive difference
June 7th 2012 @ 3:18pm
Sam Taulelei said | June 7th 2012 @ 3:18pm | Report comment
Well one would accuse me of family bias in supporting your call Rusty to promote Jack Lam to the All Blacks.
June 7th 2012 @ 5:12pm
Rusty said | June 7th 2012 @ 5:12pm | Report comment
No one would accuse you of that Sam
but the kid has talent
June 7th 2012 @ 2:40pm
Kuruki said | June 7th 2012 @ 2:40pm | Report comment
I read an article where Vito said he is going to rise up to the challenge of filling Kaino’s boots and his first mission will be to go out and hurt somebody. That is music to my ears.
June 7th 2012 @ 4:42pm
DC of nz said | June 7th 2012 @ 4:42pm | Report comment
Kuruki
I read that piece too and that’s why he needs to be the next Kaino and crunch players in the contact area and play tight..
Yep and no offence taken I do realise that Kaino and Jerry were their own players ….
Opposition flankers were actually scared of Jerry Collins !
June 7th 2012 @ 1:02pm
nickoldschool said | June 7th 2012 @ 1:02pm | Report comment
Ireland named:
15 Rob Kearney, 14 Fergus McFadden, 13 Brian O’Driscoll (cap), 12 Keith Earls, 11 Simon Zebo, 10 Jonathan Sexton, 9 Conor Murray, 8 Jamie Heaslip, 7 Sean O’Brien, 6 Peter Mahony, 5 Donnacha Ryan, 4 Dan Touhy, 3 Declan Fitzpatrick, 2 Rory Best, 1 Cian Healy. Bench: 16 Sean Cronin, 17 Ronan Loughney, 18 Donncha O’Callaghan, 19 Kevin McLaughlin, 20 Eoin Reddan, 21 Ronan O’Gara, 22 Darren Cave.
June 7th 2012 @ 10:08pm
Wpc said | June 7th 2012 @ 10:08pm | Report comment
KPM have you watched a single hurricanes game this year? Your comments about Conrad Smith are completely unfounded. He has been the form centre in the competition and your comment about Guildford not being good enough for the ITM cup – how can you really consider yourself a rugby fan?
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