Socceroos handle the heat, with more to come from Japan
Related coverage
Given the difficulty posed by the heat of Oman and the pressure not to stumble in the first outing, coming away from Muscat with a scoreless draw and a point at least gives the Socceroos a foot into the latest phase of qualifying.
Needing to finish in the top two to earn automatic qualification for Brazil, and with Japan already on their way thanks to two comfortable and impressive home wins over Oman and Jordan, the Roos had to ensure they didn’t stumble here.
In that sense, a point on the road, in the energy-sapping heat, will at least give the team some confidence they can continue to get the job done and take Australia to a third successive World Cup.
It might not have quite been as “super-human” as Osieck described it after the match, but it was still very professional, and the entire Roos camp deserve plaudits for that.
It was far from comfortable, especially with the hosts coming at the Roos in the second period, but Osieck will at least have been happy to come away unscathed.
The German came into it with an obvious plan to utilise mobility in the front third, leaving both Josh Kennedy and Tim Cahill on the bench and pushing Matt McKay into his midfield.
No doubt this was motivated in part by the absence of his most productive midfielder in recent years, Brett Holman.
Without the Aston Villa bound attacker, Osieck no doubt reasoned that he had to balance the need for more defensive steel with the need to add attacking legs in the front third.
With Archie Thompson, who started on the left side of his midfield against Denmark, offering very little defensive support in midfield in that match, the Roos looked very loose.
Patently, Osieck felt like he needed to add more support to Mark Bresciano and his holding midfielder, this time Carl Valeri.
McKay would not only be expected to provide the defensive support, but burst forward occasionally and support both Harry Kewell and Alex Brosque.
While the theory may have been there, in practice both McKay and his left sided partner, David Carney, spent large periods dealing with Oman’s handy right side, which featured the impressive young attacker Raeed Ibrahim.
Apart from the 25 minute period leading up to half time, and the final 10 minutes, the Socceroos struggled to control proceedings, with Al-Ahmar (The Red) striker Emad Al Hosni proving particularly effervescent.
On one occasion, early in the second half, he forced a brilliant reaction save from Mark Schwarzer, sharp down to his left.
On such moments World Cup qualification can be decided, and the manager was indebted to his custodian here, just as Pim Verbeek was last time around.
It was another reminder of how reliant Osieck is on his old guard, especially when the going gets tough.
Here he featured an 11 with experience in defence and just enough mobility in attack.
It was team picked to do a job, and while the German may have expected a little more fluency in forward transition, he will have been pleased with the defensive side of things.
Going for the experienced options in Ognenovski, Carney and Jade North in all the contentious defensive spots told of Osieck’s thinking.
North and Carney have often been criticised, but here they produced solid displays.
North, in particularly, has invariably done the job when asked.
Many forget how critical he was in the first phase of qualifiers on the way to South Africa, when Verbeek used him regularly, often in a back three.
While many, including this correspondent, have clamoured for sea-change, the reality is that the youngsters that have hitherto been given their chances haven’t taken them.
Very few, if any, are begging, through their performances at club level, to be selected regularly.
Others, like Matt Spiranovic, Michael Zullo, James Troisi and Rhys Williams, have been given their chances, but continue to be inconsistent.
For now, it seems Osieck has little choice but to go with the tried and trusted.
How the aging squad recover and travel back from Oman to Brisbane, for Tuesday’s blockbuster against the Samurai Blue, will be telling.
Very few do the logistics as well as the Socceroos, and the medical staff will give the squad every chance of recovering in time.
They will need to be fresh.
What awaits is as formidable a test as the Roos are likely to face, a Japanese side on the up, and flowing with confidence after the wins against Oman an Jordan.
Both games were notable for the rapid pace in which Alberto Zaccheroni’s men moved both body and ball.
The midfield is as dynamic and technical as any in world football, and features such talent as Keisuke Honda, Shinji Kagawa and Ryoichi Maeda, with Yasuhito Endo and Makoto Hasebe controlling things from deeper.
Zaccheroni has them all on the same page, seamlessly integrating the fullbacks, Yuto Nagatomo and Atsuto Uchida, as well as striker Shinji Okazaki, into his flowing template.
It is candy to the football eye.
Osieck and his men will have to be at their organised best to get anything out of the home clash, ensuring they don’t sit too deep.
Putting pressure high on the deeper lying playmakers, Endo and Hasebe, will be critical, and to that end Brosque’s role is likely to change.
It is shaping up as a beauty, and while the momentum and circumstances appear to be with Japan, the Socceroos will be much better in familiar surrounds.
One can barely wait.
Follow Tony on Twitter @TonyTannousTRBA
Sport, all day long. Does this sound too good to be true? We're searching for a Group Sales Manager to lead our team in Sydney. If you're a sales star who doesn't mind a hit, kick, throw, or cycle, we want to hear from you. Apply now.

June 9th 2012 @ 11:09am
Brick Tamlin of the Pants Party said | June 9th 2012 @ 11:09am | Report comment
I was quite impressed with the first half performance we controlled the game,Bresciano was looking good again spraying passes around at will.Obviously the heat took its toll in a big way we looked knackered by around the hour mark so it really was a good effort to hang on for a point and should’ve nicked it through Thompson(of course when you’re looking to score why not bring on a guy who hasn’t scored Internationally for 6 years).I really hope Holger doesn’t play both Cahill and Kennedy i thought playing those two up front together was a disaster against Thailand we became very predictable,maybe start with Kennedy alongside Brosque or Kewell and bring on Cahill on the hr mark,i can see the Japan players thinking “oh no not him again”.Huge game Tuesday defenatley going to need one of those brave and gritty Socceroos performances to get a result.
June 9th 2012 @ 12:26pm
Midfielder said | June 9th 2012 @ 12:26pm | Report comment
Tony I was disappointed with the match we lost so much ball and so often it was a long ball and hope … apart from passing across the back four most other things broke down…
We will get put to the sword by Japan if we play line that in Brisbane..
June 11th 2012 @ 2:06pm
Nathan of Perth said | June 11th 2012 @ 2:06pm | Report comment
I think the odds of us enacting that same game plan against Japan in Brisbane are absolutely nil.
June 9th 2012 @ 12:28pm
Qantas supports Australian Football said | June 9th 2012 @ 12:28pm | Report comment
It’s time to give Michael Thwaite a spot somewhere in the back four. Mr dependable not only can go for 120 mins flat out, but has height, good in the air, speed, extremely comfortable on the ball and great vision going forward.
June 9th 2012 @ 1:34pm
Bondy said | June 9th 2012 @ 1:34pm | Report comment
The youngest player on the pitch last night was 29 Brosque , with most forms of the attack aerially and generally evading the midfield, too be lumped somewhere near the 18 yrd box , Bresciano is asked to do to much work both offensively and defensively , most of the players start walking around after 10 minutes , Holman is greatly missed and I think we need two young technically gifted players in the middle of the park “we spend very little time in our opponents half and when we do we dont feel confident being able to control play ” I’d like to see young kids who can run with the football and make firm decisions Amini and Rogic do just that they run dribble and shoot something most of those blokes cant do .
It’s fairly obvious that our intent as a nation is to get to the world cup no matter what, unfortunately that was excactly what Pim did , and thats the fine line ,I’m going to be subjected to watching old though experinced players for the next two years I have to accept that this is the policy of the F.F.A. and Osieck . I would prefer to see generational change though .
It was nothing short of clinical by Zaccheroni’s men .
June 9th 2012 @ 2:56pm
Fussball ist unser leben said | June 9th 2012 @ 2:56pm | Report comment
Thanks Tony for a calm & rational assessment of what transpired last night. A welcome contrast to some of the populist hysteria that I’m reading in many other forums.
I see no difference between last night’s game and the last campaign when we played away to QAT & BHR. Both those games we struggled & were lucky to grab a 0-1 win in BHR when Bresciano scored in the dying minutes after BHR dominated the game; and, in Doha we got a dour 0-0 draw, which was the point that took us to South Africa with a game to spare.
Only 1 game down, but the campaign is going exactly to plan.
June 9th 2012 @ 3:03pm
Realfootball said | June 9th 2012 @ 3:03pm | Report comment
You call that performance last night “going exactly to plan”? What was your day job? Captaining the Titanic?
June 9th 2012 @ 3:16pm
Fussball ist unser leben said | June 9th 2012 @ 3:16pm | Report comment
Take a deep breath & relax, Realfootball.
You seem to be a very angry & unhappy chap – do you ever smile & enjoy an AUS NT result?
Did you feel any joy or pride when we scored 3 goals in 3 minutes at AAMI Park in February?
In the past 2 years, I don’t think I’ve read a single post, where you’ve said you actually gained enjoyment from watching the AUS NT – you’re missing out, mate.
June 9th 2012 @ 3:29pm
Realfootball said | June 9th 2012 @ 3:29pm | Report comment
I take pleasure in good football, Fussball. But I realise you don’t understand that.
June 9th 2012 @ 6:40pm
Kasey said | June 9th 2012 @ 6:40pm | Report comment
Problem I have is I’ve long since moved past being happy to get an invite to the big show and I want to see my country go deep into the tournament. I’m not completely pessimistic, I can see this team qualifying. Then what? 3 games in Brazil and catch the plane home as in 2010? That’s not exactly going to inspire me or the nation is it? We need to be striving for improvement and sadly I just don’t see that in the Socceroos. By contrast, Japan have been showing steady signs of improvement since the 19990′s and look to be peaking to go deep into Brazil 2014 and perhaps keep that team going to win the Asian Cup here in Oz in 2015.
June 10th 2012 @ 5:12pm
Andy said | June 10th 2012 @ 5:12pm | Report comment
I tend to agree with Real Football and Kasey here, maybe without the sting though. The youngest player on our team was 29. That’s horrendous. We may get through to the World Cup but what can we realistically expect from this team if they get there? They will be too old to make any sort of mark at the tournament. The only player that seemed capable of playing football in that side was Bresciano. The rest ran about but the quality just wasn’t there. We really should be beating the Omanis, even in that sort of weather.
We’ll get torn apart by Japan if we play like that. Can someone also enlighten me to why Australia seems to be still playing a rigid 4-4-2 whilst the rest of the world is going the other way. Sometimes it feels as though I’m watching football through a time machine.
Also, why is the A-league run under the influence of the Dutch school of coaching when the national team plays in the German school style (and not the current one dominating the world but the old one). Where’s the continuity? One or the other please.
June 11th 2012 @ 10:00am
Kasey said | June 11th 2012 @ 10:00am | Report comment
I’m not sure how what I said had any sting. I’m just saying that as a football fan, I have decided that I want more than just qualifying for the WC. Am I being selfish? I don’t know. Sadly I’ve watched lots of tournaments sans Aussies. I just want the best for football in this country and I think that would more likely happen with the Showpiece team in that sport having a fairytale run deep into a World Cup. Does that mean we are in trouble if the Socceroos play 3 and come home? Not necessarily, but I doubt it will help.
June 10th 2012 @ 5:12pm
Andy said | June 10th 2012 @ 5:12pm | Report comment
I tend to agree with Real Football and Kasey here, maybe without the sting though. The youngest player on our team was 29. That’s horrendous. We may get through to the World Cup but what can we realistically expect from this team if they get there? They will be too old to make any sort of mark at the tournament. The only player that seemed capable of playing football in that side was Bresciano. The rest ran about but the quality just wasn’t there. We really should be beating the Omanis, even in that sort of weather.
We’ll get torn apart by Japan if we play like that. Can someone also enlighten me to why Australia seems to be still playing a rigid 4-4-2 whilst the rest of the world is going the other way. Sometimes it feels as though I’m watching football through a time machine.
Also, why is the A-league run under the influence of the Dutch school of coaching when the national team plays in the German school style (and not the current one dominating the world but the old one). Where’s the continuity? One or the other please.
June 9th 2012 @ 2:59pm
Realfootball said | June 9th 2012 @ 2:59pm | Report comment
I was flat out furious watching that dire game to its conclusion last night. I don’t buy the excuses, and they came thick and fast. The Omanis played in the same air. They are mostly semi pro players from a tiny nation of 2.7 million people.
Osieck was lucky to get this job. His resume illustrates the lacklustre career of a man who, at 63, has not coached a club of any significance, nor whom has experienced any success in terms of titles. Frankly, my belief – at the time – was that he was a poliical appointment – a friend of Beckenbauer, at a time when the Kaiser was pushing Australia’s World Cup bid. His career profile is alarmingly similar to that of Verbeek, with the considerable disadvantage of being almost 10 years older.
Ostensibly, he was appointed because of his alleged background in youth football, the idea being that he would foster young talent and regenerate the squad. In this he has been an abject failure. Instead, like Verbeek, he selects players and teams from a starting position of fear. Fear of losing. He has no vision, no courage, and little apparent tactical acumen.
What he is giving us is a squad of utter mediocrities (North, Carney, Valeri and possibly Brosque), one former great almost a decade past his best ( Kewell),ordinary journeymen at least half a decade past their best (Neill, Og, Thompson) and new blood in Matt McKay, who is, God help us, 29. Wilkshire is 30 and clearly losing his athele edge. Besciano is our best, always and still a class act, but at 32 he is going to struggle to see out a high tempo game.
The football and the team last night were simply awful. Kewell, Neill and Thompson really should show some dignity and retire gracefully. Osieck needs to show some cojones and ease them towards the door. But dignity never has been part of the Kewell or Neill lexicon and they will hang onto their place in the rapidly sinking sun like drowning men to flotsam.
If one player crystallises what is wrong with Osieck, it’s Thompson. Thompson couldn’t get on the park for the Roos when he was at his peak in 2006. He has had an awful domestic season. He has not scored for Australia for 6 years. He is 33. On the bench last night we had Rukavytsia and Kennedy. And yet Thompson was brought on. This simply defies rational belief.
I could talk about Jade North alongside Thompson, but what’s the point, given that it is so obvious that he shouldn’t be in the squad, let alone starting.
Osieck never had the CV for this job. Now we know he hasn’t the balls for it either. And alongside him, who do we have but Aurelio Vidmar, the man who took Adelaide to the wooden spoon and, more signficantly, “guided” the Olyroos out of the Olympics without a single goal to their credit. As with Osieck, Vidmar’s team and squad selections were marked by startlingly odd and poor selections. In no other country in the world would he still be in his job, let alone alongside Osieck.
The coaching staff of our national team is a ship of fools. Osieck is adrift without a clue and – I note – is sounding and looking increasingly desperate, showing worrying idications of living in a parallel universe where a shocking performance becomes an awesome performance. I have tickets for Tuesday night. To say I am not overcome with optimism would be a serious understatement.
But, as with Verbeek, we’re stuck with Osieck, Vidmar and whatever bewildering selections they throw at us. My only hope this time, if we qualify (and that is a very real if), is that FFA cuts Osieck and Vidmar loose at teh end of qualifying, as many suggested they do with Verbeek in 2010. If they don’t, and we enter that tournament with team that looks anything like last night’s 11, then we will be humiliated.
June 9th 2012 @ 3:12pm
The Cattery said | June 9th 2012 @ 3:12pm | Report comment
1. Yeh – probably was a political appointment.
2. The notion that he could develop youth has turned out to be completely false, has done nothing of a sort.
3. One gets the impression that the oldies are virtually selecting themselves and maybe Osieck lacks the cojones to confront this impending problem – old players putting their name forward for 2014. Sorry guys, it’s not your call – it’s not about you.
Having said all that – conditions were woeful last night – you can’t judge the socceroos on the strength of that. The selections of average players make some sense if it was all about preserving a stronger starting line-up for Japan.
Let’s see how they stand up to Japan – the biggest test we’ve faced since meeting Germany in the opening game of the 2010 WC.
June 9th 2012 @ 3:20pm
Fussball ist unser leben said | June 9th 2012 @ 3:20pm | Report comment
“Let’s see how they stand up to Japan”
Fair enough. What result would make you & other AUS NT/Osieck critics stop whinging?
What exactly does the AUS NT team need to do – on Tuesday night, against JPN – to stop people like you, Realfootball, etc. whinging?
Or don’t you have the cojones to tell us what you consider “successful” BEFORE the event; you’d rather be a “post-match” expert?
June 9th 2012 @ 3:26pm
Realfootball said | June 9th 2012 @ 3:26pm | Report comment
As a matter of interest, Fussball, have you ever played the game at a decent level, or coached?
Or are you just one of those sad desperates who lives through his computer – which is certainly my impression.
June 9th 2012 @ 3:33pm
Fussball ist unser leben said | June 9th 2012 @ 3:33pm | Report comment
I’m still playing & I’m in my 40s. How about you?
As you can imagine, your impression of me is extremely important – I really really hope you like me.
June 9th 2012 @ 3:36pm
Realfootball said | June 9th 2012 @ 3:36pm | Report comment
I apologise, that last comment was personal, rash, inappropriate and undignified.
It is, after all, only football.
June 9th 2012 @ 3:38pm
Ian Whitchurch said | June 9th 2012 @ 3:38pm | Report comment
“What exactly does the AUS NT team need to do – on Tuesday night, against JPN – to stop people like you, Realfootball, etc. whinging?”
Give us some confidence that there are players coming through that will be peaking in ability in 2014.
Right now, Im seeing a side that is aging and not particularly good.
June 9th 2012 @ 3:58pm
Fussball ist unser leben said | June 9th 2012 @ 3:58pm | Report comment
“Give us some confidence that there are players coming through that will be peaking in ability in 2014.”
What does that mean? Give me an example, please.
What if AUS beats JPN 1-0? Isn’t that enough for you? Do we get more points from FIFA if we win with style?
The FIFA WC comes around every 4 years. You miss out & it’s a long long wait before you start again. I know, I’ve waited through 7 failed WC campaigns.
No one cares whether a team passed the ball around with 1-touch flicks, or whether they set up a goal with a back-heel or whether they dominated possession.
In Nov-97, at the MCG against IRN, the AUS NT played, perhaps, the most beautiful brand of football I’ve ever seen in my 35 years following the AUS NT.
But, when the final whistle sounded, all that beautiful football counted for NOUGHT.
I never want to experience that feeling ever again. So, when it comes to World Cup Qualification, only 1 thing matters – THE RESULT.
June 9th 2012 @ 4:35pm
Ian Whitchurch said | June 9th 2012 @ 4:35pm | Report comment
Fussball,
No. Two things matter.
The results, and whether you can keep delivering those results as time goes on.
Im not seeing the next generation being blooded. Ive got no clue who the next Socceroos striker is, unless it’s Archie. I dont know who will be creating changes when Bresciano finally gets too old.
June 9th 2012 @ 4:38pm
Realfootball said | June 9th 2012 @ 4:38pm | Report comment
Actually, Fussball, you are missing the key point in this debate. People do care how the game is played. All over the world, they care.
Obviously you have been forever scared by that night at the MCG, but don’t let it blind you to the fact that sport is and always will be entertainment.
June 10th 2012 @ 5:23pm
Andy said | June 10th 2012 @ 5:23pm | Report comment
I think the two best teams in world football right now – Spain and Germany – might disagree with you on whether how you play matters. What about the great Dutch team or Brazil? People remember them as much for how they played as they do for what the won (or didn’t win in the case of the Dutch). Generally though, good football and results aren’t mutually exclusive. Over time, you can’t continue to grind out results but good football leaves a legacy.
Let’s be honest. Football in Australia is as much about inspiring the next generation to take up the game as it is about results. At the 2006 World Cup we actually played good football under Hiddink, under Pim Verbeek the popularity waned. What we’re currently producing isn’t inspiring anyone to want to play the game.
June 10th 2012 @ 9:06pm
Fussball ist unser leben said | June 10th 2012 @ 9:06pm | Report comment
I watched the GER v POR and NED v DEN matches this morning.
Things I learnt:
1. NED played some mesmerising football in the 1st half. They had Schneider pulling the strings in the midfield & Robben & van Persie combining time and again to create 28 shots on goal – that’s 1 every 3 minutes. NED had Huntelaar, van der Vaart & Kuyt sitting on the bench – they all came on in the 2nd half.
So, NED had the top scorer in the EPL & the top scorer in the Bundesliga.
DEN won 1-0
Ask anyone in the NED if they’d rather win 1-0 or be known as the team that created 28 chances playing beautiful football.
2. GER – the team that seemed to capture the hearts & minds at the 2010 World Cup – played one of the most dour & uninspiring games I’ve seen under Jogi Loew.
GER won 1-0
According to Uli Hesse, at the final whistle, the German TV commentator yelled: “Not played well but won, that is important”. http://espnfc.com/uk/en/news/1093759/uli-hessereturn-germanyefficiency.html
After the 2010 WC, many suggested AUS NT should learn to play like Germany … yup and, hopefully, our fans should learn to appreciate results like German fans appreciate results.
June 9th 2012 @ 3:39pm
The Cattery said | June 9th 2012 @ 3:39pm | Report comment
At this stage, I’d say grabbing a point would be a great result.
I’m not whinging – I’m calling it the way I see it.
It’s hard to disagree with much of what Realf is saying (I’ve said similar things in the recent past).
The raw numbers tell the story.
We have not pushed enough younger players through to NT level. Someone, somewhere along the line, has failed in their duty of looking after the future interests of the Socceroos.
There’s no getting round it, it’s impossible to gloss over, the raw numbers tell the tale.
June 9th 2012 @ 4:36pm
Midfielder said | June 9th 2012 @ 4:36pm | Report comment
Fuss
Real has some decent points and has asked some interesting questions… however being fair he can only work with what he has…
My belief is we are getting close to the regeneration folk are talking about however at what point can a coach fail..
IMO the wrong choice at the Asian Cup and their qualifiers …. this is where risks should have been taken and the younger players given time… trouble is in WCQ’s you can only play your best…
My hope is we learn from our mistakes …
Ruka played as a first squad player in a number of games this year and many as a sub in the Germany’s top division… he played right mid where we also have Emo, Kruse, Timmy [maybe] & Wilkshere …. He should at least be tried there with Wilkshere as the right back well thats my opinion… up from is where we lack class..
Outside JC we don’t have a quality striker we keep trying our midfielders up front in Harry & Timmy… its time to grab a couple of the around 20 year old with speed and try at least … as for Brosque & Archie neither have the composure needed ..
Kruse made a big impact when he came on last which had me questioning why we started with North at RB back instead of Wilkshere with Kruse as the RM…
Scratches head and wonders aloud was it the heat … saving some of our best for Japan…
Time will tell … I hope our passing improves …. as for Osieck the jury is asking for more evidence… on his ability …however to compare him to Pim is a little over the top he has tested a number of players, and has provided some decent games…
Given Holman will start … where do we play Holman and also were does Timmy fit in…
June 9th 2012 @ 3:35pm
Bondy said | June 9th 2012 @ 3:35pm | Report comment
There’s 20 mill in Tv revenue at stake here for getting to the world cup, it’s 17 mill a year to run the Hal , there isnt going to be a young kid “Wunderkid” produced is there ,we are going to go through a campaign excactly the same as last campaign .
June 9th 2012 @ 3:41pm
The Cattery said | June 9th 2012 @ 3:41pm | Report comment
Bondy
at this late stage, that’s probably the way it’s going to pan out – but we should have seen this coming at least two years ago – but we’ve done nothing about it, I mean quite literally, nothing.
You used the word in another thread – regeneration – why hasn’t this been top of the list for the last two years – there’s no excuse.
June 11th 2012 @ 12:04pm
Bondy said | June 11th 2012 @ 12:04pm | Report comment
Cattery, How did the National team rate.
June 9th 2012 @ 4:44pm
c said | June 9th 2012 @ 4:44pm | Report comment
June 9th 2012 @ 5:11pm
Bondy said | June 9th 2012 @ 5:11pm | Report comment
I’ve never found a Non Political appointment to any National Team throughout the world, it’s all political .
June 9th 2012 @ 5:27pm
dasilva said | June 9th 2012 @ 5:27pm | Report comment
The funny thing is that Osieck was the only political machination Australia done regarding the World Cup 2022 bid that actually work as he won us our only vote from the Kaiser
He was certainly more effective in winning votes than the likes of Hartigay
Maybe instead of paying moneys to consultants we should have just hired friends of FIFA Exco members as members of FFA staff and we may have won the World Cup bid
June 9th 2012 @ 5:41pm
dasilva said | June 9th 2012 @ 5:41pm | Report comment
In terms of youth, people usually have the excuse that none of the young players are playing regularly in Europe and that’s why he is not selecting them as it isn’t his job to develop players but the job of clubs and the job of Han Berger (really he needs to be scrutinised over his role. I get the feeling that he is using the oldest trick in politics, set long term goals so that by the time people can evaluate your success, you will be long gone. considering there hasn’t exactly been any intermediate goals to monitor the progress to the long term success)
however the one player kind of destroy the argument with Nikita Rukavytsya. the most disappointing thing was why Ruka hasn’t been selected. He played 55 games for Hertha BSC in two seasons and 24 of that game was in the Bundesliga. Therefore he is the only young player along with Chris Herd who is getting regular game time at a top division side in Europe.
his non-selection really says it all about the regeneration process of Osieck.
June 9th 2012 @ 6:37pm
Midfielder said | June 9th 2012 @ 6:37pm | Report comment
Das
Spot on re Ruka … same for Troisi until recently a regular in a European side…
June 9th 2012 @ 5:46pm
Stevo said | June 9th 2012 @ 5:46pm | Report comment
“If one player crystallises what is wrong with Osieck, it’s Thompson”. 100% with you on this one. When we could have had a J-league player with good feet and aerial work on for Harry we bring on Archie. Aside from that, Holger’s job, and Pim’s only instructions were to get the Socceroos to the WC – nothing else matters. in this respect Pim and Holger will go for safety rather than experimentation. Expect more of the same except if we qualify early.
June 9th 2012 @ 5:01pm
Bondy said | June 9th 2012 @ 5:01pm | Report comment
I remember watching the asian cup last time out and the South Koreans simply came out and said we dont really expect much from this tournament we’re rebuilding after last years world cup with youth ,now to some thats a completely logical philosophy to have but to others its completely an utterly irrational “to each their own” .
The unfortunate thing for some is the people who care posting at websites such as these want a gung ho approach to the National Team , but the gaffa’s saying No, No, No.
June 10th 2012 @ 5:16pm
heart of sydney said | June 10th 2012 @ 5:16pm | Report comment
The thing is there was an expectation from the meeja that Australia had to get to the AC final – which they did – anything less would have been seen as a failure as it was in the previous go round in 2007. Hence, I would think, PvB’s conservative selection policies.
Again the whole thing is political – the FFA had to protect the code from the haters – the likes of Rebecca W, Eddie Everywhere etc. If young players had been blooded in the AC as they should have been and Australia had not got out of the group or just to quarters, the code would have been marked as a “fail”.
June 9th 2012 @ 5:13pm
Fussball ist unser leben said | June 9th 2012 @ 5:13pm | Report comment
Some interesting observations about “age & football talent” from the Euro2010, which started last night.
I watched both matches LIVE on Setanta & all 4 teams played extremely good football.
For me, the standout team after Match Day 1 was RUS, who beat CZE 4-1.
RUS:
* average age of 13 players, who played last night = 29 years
* 11 players 28 yrs or older, including 6 players over 30
* 2 goals scored by players 30 years old
Greece was also very impressive – up against the home nation, in the opening match in front of a vocal partisan crowd. Down a goal after 17 mins, totally outlplayed & playing with 1 less man for 25 minutes, GRE bounced back to dominate the 2nd half.
GRE:
* average age of 14 players, who played last night = 27 years
* 5 players were older than 30
* only goal scored by player 30 years old
June 9th 2012 @ 6:42pm
Realfootball said | June 9th 2012 @ 6:42pm | Report comment
This is a copy of your post on another thread.
A more pertinant analysis might look at how far over 30 these players were. Agree that 30 isn’t a magic number, but the years past 30 are telling in terms of physical performance.
Kewel 34
Bresc 32 (going on 33)
Og 33
Neill 34
Thompson 33
+ Emerton 34
A player at 30 is one thing; a player at 33-34 is quite another.
Are you seriously suggesting that the age of this Australian team isn’t a problem?
June 9th 2012 @ 9:55pm
Ian Whitchurch said | June 9th 2012 @ 9:55pm | Report comment
Its not the age of the Australian team that worries me.
Its the age they’ll be at the World Cup.
June 10th 2012 @ 4:45pm
Fussball ist unser leben said | June 10th 2012 @ 4:45pm | Report comment
What do you suggest, Ian?
Maybe, we adopt the philosophy of successful sports – like AFL – which place a high value on youth? Seems to be working wonders for Suns & Giants?
If young players are talented; they get picked. Only extremely foolish – and unsuccessful – coaches will pick players based on their birth certificate.
June 9th 2012 @ 6:15pm
pete4 said | June 9th 2012 @ 6:15pm | Report comment
Keisuke Honda for mine is the heart-beat of Japan. Not sure how we’ll do it but we have to shut down his runs from deep if we are to have any chance on Tuesday night to get the 3 points.
Japan is on fire with 9 goals in 2 games so it’ll be very interesting to see what formation Holger puts out…
June 9th 2012 @ 9:05pm
nordster said | June 9th 2012 @ 9:05pm | Report comment
pretty in love with endo right now myself
(so much so his 7 japan kit is on its way to my place after last night)
will be getting a fair bit of satisfaction if those two carve us up on tuesday, it’ll be nice watching at least
June 10th 2012 @ 11:12am
Brick Tamlin of the Pants Party said | June 10th 2012 @ 11:12am | Report comment
I think Endo’s the one we really should be shutting down if we can nullify his influence on the game i think you’ll find Honda won’t have as much impact either he gets on the end of Endo’s radar like passes.Williams must play at right back on Tuesday its horrifying to think what Kagawa could do to North.
June 9th 2012 @ 6:46pm
Midfielder said | June 9th 2012 @ 6:46pm | Report comment
This is Archie Thompson’s record for the Australia national team:
No goals since 2006. Australia’s best striker? Shudder. {sorry for the list not being straight]
Year …… Apps ….. Goals
2001 …… 7 …….. 16
2002 …….0 ……….. 0
2003…….0 ……….. 0
2004 …….1 ………… 1
2005 …….8 ………. 3
2006 …… 7 ………. 1
2007 …… 5 ………. 0
2008 …… 2 ……… 0
2009 …… 2 ……… 0
2010 …… 1 …….. 0
2011 …… 0 ……… 0
2012 …… 1 …….. 0
Total ……34 ……… 21
June 9th 2012 @ 7:52pm
Roger said | June 9th 2012 @ 7:52pm | Report comment
Yea, nice Midfielder. But what about the assists and the tempo he created for the Saudi Arabia game?