Barnes is bringing back the drop goal
By The Crowd, 14 Jun 2012 The Crowd is a Roar Guru
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During a phase of play last week, the Wallabies were again pressuring towards the Welsh line. As the momentum ceased, Barnes took charge, pivoted to the right and slotted a drop goal to keep the score ticking over.
Barnes has many flaws but one of his strengths is his reliability in slotting drop goals. In fact, he is now approaching a Wallaby record.
With seven of them from 39 tests (28 starts), Barnes is now three in front of his closest rival Matt Giteau, who disappointingly only kicked four drop goals in 92 tests (79 starts). He is tantalisingly close to the all time wallaby record of nine drop goals set by both Phil Hawthorne (21 tests) and equalled by Michael Lynagh (71 tests).
Barnes is also one behind the attacking genius that was Mark Ella who slotted eight drop goals from his 25 tests.
What surprises me by all this is just how few drop goals our no 10′s have kicked since Phil Hawthorne and Mark Ella so openly advocated the drop goal as a means to success. I suppose Lynagh and Giteau could argue that they played a lot of rugby at 12 but then again so did Jonny Wilkinson.
Interestingly, Wilkinson has the almost unattainable, ‘Bradman-esque’ record of 36 drop goals from his 91 tests (70 starts), which is a fair reflection of a player that reportedly practises his kicking even on Christmas Day.
Nevertheless, I’d like to see Barnes keep dropping goals this series and break the Wallaby record.
The benefit for the rest of us would be that this would help win the next two Test matches as it did the last one. Drop goals are worth three points, which last time I checked is almost as much as a try, so, as long as you have put the hours of practice in, I say go for it. If you can do it consistently well, it is like fishing with dynamite.
In terms of the benefit for Barnes, who knows, one day at the selection table Deans may tip the decision into Barnes’ favour as a result.
I sincerely doubt that so Barnes really has to get his skates on if indeed he is to take advantage of being on the cusp of Wallaby greatness. The best way to do this? By kicking drop goals.
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June 14th 2012 @ 5:21am
marky mark said | June 14th 2012 @ 5:21am | Report comment
That is almost unbelievable. The record is … 9?
What was Giteau doing all those years? No wonder we kept losing with him. He must have had more chances to slot a few 3 pointers from in front!
June 14th 2012 @ 7:17am
The Werewolf said | June 14th 2012 @ 7:17am | Report comment
Yes hard to believe.
I left out Aussie Dan Parks who kicked 17 from 67 tests. Let’s claim him and pretend he didn’t kick them for Scotland.
June 14th 2012 @ 3:47pm
Dasher said | June 14th 2012 @ 3:47pm | Report comment
I distinctly remember a Bledisloe game in 2009 (scoreline 19-18 to NZ), where the Wallabies spent the last five or so minutes in the All Blacks’ 22, bashing themselves against a black wall to no avail. We were all screaming at the telly for Giteau to kick a drop goal but he didn’t even look like contemplating it.
June 14th 2012 @ 5:28pm
The Werewolf said | June 14th 2012 @ 5:28pm | Report comment
I remember that too and there have been so many instances like this over the years.
I too was frustrated by a lot of Giteau’s game management when he was at the helm. He needed to be much braver and give the call to build for the drop a lot more, but he was not alone. It is also up to the coach/captain to create a positive culture at knowing how and when to go for them. It’d be great if the majority of fans started letting the guys know that we appreciate that aspect of play as well so long as it is positive.
Who knows, if we had a bit more of a drop goal propensity, we might have been able to boss a few more matches these past 10 years.
June 14th 2012 @ 5:22am
the breakdown said | June 14th 2012 @ 5:22am | Report comment
‘Like fishing with dynamite’
Love it.
June 14th 2012 @ 5:36am
Monty said | June 14th 2012 @ 5:36am | Report comment
WEREWOLF – Bob Dwyer used to feel that a snap was an iffy proposition unless a successful one meant putting the game out of reach. He’s not alone. If you have a platform from a won scrum thirty metres out, go for the tryline. I’m sure we’ll see both the Steynes hit long range drops in the next two games against England at altitude. Barnes’ drop is better than his punt. So go for it Berrick if that’s the best we can do.
June 14th 2012 @ 7:29am
The Werewolf said | June 14th 2012 @ 7:29am | Report comment
It’s not an iffy proposition if you put in the hard yards at training.
I once had the chance to talk to Dallaglio about JW’s drop goal in the 2003 RWC final. He said the amount of time they’d practice that particular sequence of the build up for that drop goal in the event that they’d need it to win that game was immeasurable.
I agree about the 30m out scenario you’ve given. The scenario that Barnes kicked those points on Saturday was the perfect time to slot one and full credit to him. So long as the Wallabies are practising as a team as to how to either create such an opportunity or to know when the time is right to slot one, Barnes hardly ever misses, so I say more of the same please.
June 14th 2012 @ 7:45am
Red Kev said | June 14th 2012 @ 7:45am | Report comment
What was impressive about Barnes’ drop goal was that it came on the next phase after the Wallaby attack had stalled. It was the best option. Going for the try should always be encouraged, but if your attack is breaking down or ineffective then take the shot. You get the ball back if you miss (assuming you strike it well enough). I would think it is a higher percentage play than an attacking grubber or cross-field bomb (league style).
I have to disagree with Dwyer there, take the best option, if that is the drop goal then kick that sum’bitch.
June 14th 2012 @ 9:04am
The Werewolf said | June 14th 2012 @ 9:04am | Report comment
Cheers for your well thought out comment RK.
If Barnes had missed, which he rarely does, we’d have got the ball back as you said and at that particular time there was nothing on, their defense had had a chance to reset because we’d allowed the ball to spill out and had lost the go forward.
What impressed me was the quick decision of Genia and Barnes to realise this and to execute first the pass and then the actual drop goal accurately. Great skill under pressure.
June 14th 2012 @ 7:45am
M.O.C. said | June 14th 2012 @ 7:45am | Report comment
For me, drop goals are the ultimate in trying to win ugly, and I tend to struggle to watch and appreciate any team happy enough to constantly kick drop goals instead of playing positive attacking rugby. Winning a game by drop goals seems a bit like kissing your sister.
June 14th 2012 @ 7:54am
the breakdown said | June 14th 2012 @ 7:54am | Report comment
I don’t think anyone’s asking fro a drop goal-a-thon just to keep the score board ticking over.
barnes drop last week put us from 11 to 14 points ahead. That’s smart rugby.
June 14th 2012 @ 7:51am
sixo_clock said | June 14th 2012 @ 7:51am | Report comment
I must admit that I get deflated with drop goals, as if something was taken away. There is a large amount of skill and teamwork but its a bit like going out with the family, no excitement, no tension. Still, they have their place and purpose as Monty mentioned.
Enjoying your writing skill and research, good stuff.
June 14th 2012 @ 8:47am
The Werewolf said | June 14th 2012 @ 8:47am | Report comment
Many thanks for your comment Sixo Clock
June 14th 2012 @ 7:58am
M.O.C. said | June 14th 2012 @ 7:58am | Report comment
When I watch teams clinging to drop goals as a preferred method of scoring I start to lose the will to live. This is the ultimate in “winning ugly” and while it has it’s place, I think as a general tactic it is negative, boring and simply telecasts to the opposition that you can’t crack their defense in any other way. The Wallabies are hard enough to watch at the moment without resorting to this tactic.
June 14th 2012 @ 8:25am
M.O.C. said | June 14th 2012 @ 8:25am | Report comment
ps. sorry for the double-post (the site was slow to update and needed to get this one off my chest!
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June 14th 2012 @ 8:46am
The Werewolf said | June 14th 2012 @ 8:46am | Report comment
Cheers for your comments M.O.C. Clearly you do feel passionately against the drop goal and I know many do.
I’m not one of them because I enjoy that aspect of the game as much as any other so long as it is indeed proportional, purposeful and accurate. That’s the key to keeping the fans happy both from an entertainment and a pragmatic point of view.
June 14th 2012 @ 8:38am
formeropenside said | June 14th 2012 @ 8:38am | Report comment
I like winning. I’ll take winning ugly with pleasure. I used to love watching Qld in the 90′s win with forward power and then unleash the backline.
Drop goals can be vital, but its part of doing the small things well across the board, not just to get three points.
June 14th 2012 @ 5:34pm
The Werewolf said | June 14th 2012 @ 5:34pm | Report comment
Cheers Mr F.O.
I don’t think there’d be a former openside in the world that wouldn’t appreciate the glory boys actually converting all their hard work into points.
Many thanks for your comment.
June 14th 2012 @ 10:40am
Hoy said | June 14th 2012 @ 10:40am | Report comment
Jannie De Beer beat our 5/8s in the one game in ’99World Cup didn’t he? He slotted 9 in one game if I remember correctly.
June 14th 2012 @ 12:43pm
Comrade Bear said | June 14th 2012 @ 12:43pm | Report comment
Against England – and all the commentators said – “We need to be doing that!” …a and along came JW…
Good game also.
June 14th 2012 @ 12:59pm
Jutsie said | June 14th 2012 @ 12:59pm | Report comment
A week later Bernie kicked the only drop goal of his career and his was worth more than any of the 9 jannie kicked.
June 14th 2012 @ 1:06pm
Justin2 said | June 14th 2012 @ 1:06pm | Report comment
Ha, what a game, what a kick!
June 14th 2012 @ 5:53pm
The Werewolf said | June 14th 2012 @ 5:53pm | Report comment
lol i think De beer hit 5 but it’s funny those two events are intertwined somewhat and in many ways they were career defining moments despite that particularly Larkham had a distinguished career.
I know Larkham had only started practising after De Beer’s record (from memory i think he said all of a sudden all the wallabies were practising that week). Larkham only ever kicked 1 more. I’m not sure when and where.
June 14th 2012 @ 6:06pm
marky mark said | June 14th 2012 @ 6:06pm | Report comment
Does anyone recall a young Francois Steyn kicking two drops in the last 5 minutes of a test, one of them being arguably the best ever in tests, a thunderbolt from 40m out but from the sideline.
He took them from 3 points behind to a 3 point win just through sheer talent.
June 14th 2012 @ 6:38pm
wallaby fan said | June 14th 2012 @ 6:38pm | Report comment
check out this one from a year or so ago
57-58m and the ball sailed into the crowd. AMAZING!
June 14th 2012 @ 9:37pm
wallaby fan said | June 14th 2012 @ 9:37pm | Report comment
It was definitely 5.
June 14th 2012 @ 2:05pm
JottingsOnRugby.com said | June 14th 2012 @ 2:05pm | Report comment
I would hate to see the drop goal become a lost & forgotten part of the game.
Many talk of what is the true element of the rugby game – some will point to the scrum, others running & passing the ball. But the drop goal is just as much an honoured part of rugby & of why many preferred it to other codes – the goal only counted as it was a valued challenge not easily achieved.
No rugby forward of the late 19th century would be rated at all if he didn’t possess good drop kicking skills.
A drop goal & its 3 points is as much a reward, recognition and outcome from hard won field position as the 3 points from a penalty goal are – and kicking the penalty goal is a damn side easier with a tee, a hushed crowd and no one running at you.
Since the game’s beginnings a goal has not counted if it was simply punted, and I’m convinced it is partly why the crossbar exists at all, and why rugby doesn’t have a round predictable bounce ball – it is the challenge of it all in combination.
To drop an ovoid-shaped ball to the ground on its pointed end & kick it on the rise through posts and over a crossbar is not easy for many of us in a quite moment in the local park. Try it in a rugby international against a rabid opposition forward pack.
Why try to rob the game of its unique varieties? I will always stand & support the drop goal. It reminds us that rugby is a game of many different traits, and not easily defeated team and personal challenges.
June 14th 2012 @ 5:15pm
The Werewolf said | June 14th 2012 @ 5:15pm | Report comment
Hear Hear JOR.
June 14th 2012 @ 2:25pm
stillmissit said | June 14th 2012 @ 2:25pm | Report comment
Thanks be to all the God’s for Berrick’s drop goal last Saturday, it has temporarily stopped my partner from screaming at the TV:
“Go for the drop! why don’t they go for the drop? They have tried everything else and failed, I don’t understand how they can be so stupid”. Berrick’s picture is now beside the bed and she kisses it every night before going to sleep.
Never does that for me! If anyone mentions her living with a drop kick, it will result in a severe warning from the powers of The Roar.
June 15th 2012 @ 6:29am
The Werewolf said | June 15th 2012 @ 6:29am | Report comment
Cheers for your comment.
Never mind that she kisses Barnes your wife sounds like she knows the game more than most of us. You’re a lucky man.
Mine will only ever watch the beginning of a Wales or Ireland match because she likes their ‘songs’ and then she leaves the room.