Deans will leave a legacy of unprofessionalism at the Wallabies
By Garth Hamilton, 14 Jun 2012 Garth Hamilton is a Roar Expert
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Robbie Deans showed he can win with the Wallabies win over Wales, but the Australian team has capitulated against the All Blacks (AAP Image/Dave Hunt)
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It is easy to deride a sportsman’s post match interview for the cliché and aphorism laden spiel that is so often spurted forth like some flailing hosepipe of rote-learned monkey gibberish.
It is very difficult, however, to write a sports article that does not utilise or rely upon the assumed wisdom of the same.
Clichés and aphorisms share much with sport: destined for continued repetition and of uncertain and flickering meaning.
A rather sly old English teacher taught me the seditious delight of overturning clichés in bad literature and exposing their indefensible shortcomings and it is a habit I have no intention of dropping. Take for example the statement that rugby is a game for all shapes and sizes.
Apply a mere dab of scrutiny and we find that a few additions to that statement are needed to describe the reality. Firstly, we should stipulate that all these shapes and sizes be of the sporting variety for no frail constitution can withstand a collision sport.
If we want the statement to hold for those who are successful at the sport then we also need to add that those shapes and sizes hold about 10 kilos more muscle mass than the average bloke on the street.
Finally we should add that there are conditions to those sizes and shapes. A small, lithe man like Shane Williams certainly could play rugby at the highest level but would he have been successful if was possessing only average speed and agility. Could a giant like Andries Bekker play if he didn’t have the co-ordination and athleticism that many men of similar height struggle to attain?
So rugby is a game for sporting types of enhanced shapes and sizes that meet certain conditions specific to each shape and size.
This victory of logic over bollocks will not, I fear, rank among the great achievements of the Aristotelian tradition but it serves as a useful introduction to the deconstruction of a sporting aphorism that has great implications for Robbie Deans and the perception of his legacy.
You are only as good as your last game.
Google registers 437,000 individual matches of that exact phrase which is used to both deride those who rest on their laurels but also to bolster those who have only recently overturned a period of failure.
Consider this phrase in terms of Scotland’s recent defeat of the Wallabies. Are Scotland an equal to the southern hemisphere teams now? I’ll let you mull over that for a while and then tell you the answer.
It’s no.
Are Scotland improving? Possibly; they played very well in their loss to England in the first round of the most recent Six Nations but didn’t really build on it. If we accept that their win over Australia was the result of progress under Andy Robinson how useful is a the result of that single game in establishing the nature of that progress?
We can yet keep the cliché alive by slightly altering it to ‘your last game is an indicator of your progress’. That statement is rather begging for a qualifier so, if we feel that a better indicator of progress can be attained from a deeper view, say the last 5 games, then this would leave the cliché again changed to ‘your last game is a poor indicator of your progress’.
The point, which enduring readers are now no doubt now clamouring for, is that any attempt to vindicate Robbie Deans on the back of Australia’s defeat of Wales is illogical.
Under Robbie Deans, Australia has demonstrated a clear inability to achieve consistency which has resulted in them experiencing rather embarrassing defeats by teams that Australia had distinct advantages over.
Scotland, Samoa, Ireland at the World Cup and Scotland again.
Robbie Deans’ legacy as coach of the Australian team will be one of responsibility for unprofessional levels of inconsistency by a young team that is still malleable in its sense of self and what it considers to be an acceptable performance.
The win against Wales contained some wonderful rugby but until we stop losing games we clearly shouldn’t we are simply not as good as our last win.
We are somewhere between the win against Wales and the loss to Scotland.
Enjoy the win, but we are still a team that bumbles and trips up, that accepts inexcusable defeats, that lapses and wanes, that occasionally doesn’t appear to know what it is doing and that tosses up weak excuses when it does so.
There is not a realm of human endeavour where that sort of behaviour would be considered acceptable while it is being paid for.
In short, the Wallabies are not professional and whether he deserves it or not, that is going to be Deans legacy.
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June 14th 2012 @ 1:59am
Johnno said | June 14th 2012 @ 1:59am | Report comment
-A very good article.
-And you can throw in the world cup semi final too, the way we capitulated to the All Blacks in NZ at eden park in the semi final was terrible.
-And we are supposed to be officially the no 2 team rugby nation according too the IRB.
-Well to play the way we did in that semi final by a so called no 2 rugby nation on planet earth in the world was a disgrace.
-France a week later while losing still only lost by 1 point vs the same All Black team.
-Deans is the worst match day coach of the big tier 1 teams I have ever seen. Terrible.
-Funny Jake White has been helping the wallaby team during this super rugby break , going to wallaby training helping in an informal capacity, i wonder how much credit Jake White really deserves for the wales win.
-Rassy Erasmus the head stormers coach last year went to the world cup in a technical capacity as a technical director and helped peter de villeins out massively, i wonder how much Jake white really has contributed to wallaby training and tactics during the wales win.
- I can’t believe Deans would allow Jake white or Link fro that matter to help out training but he has let world cup winning coach jake white, who has done amazing things with this brumes team this year, imagine what he could do with a full strength wallaby squad.
-So still for me sack deans i really wanted Alan jones to get the job back in 2007 and he still only just lost to Deans when JON and the ARU picked Deans.
-Andrew Blades has come into the wallaby coaching team and i think jim williams and Noriega have left the wallaby squad.
And the wallaby scrum with Blades there has improved a lot Blades was with Ben Darwin our last 2 goo scrummaging props.
-We may of finally found a real prop this year who can scrum in Dan Palmer too.
-But Deans with Lions series 2013 or and world cup I don;t want him in charge i want Jake White, or Nick Mallett, John Mitchell or John kirwan, or kieren crowley, or sir clive woodward in charge.
-And don’t laugh about clive woodward he did play test rugby for england, still loves rugby, and when he finishes his england 2012 london olympics commitments may get back into rugby coaching it has been speculated as he he is still quite young younger than sir graham Henry who would be great but he is helping Argentina now.
-And Clive Woodward has an aussie background he played club rugby for warring in the 1980′s too in the england off season.
June 14th 2012 @ 5:29am
Richie McCaw said | June 14th 2012 @ 5:29am | Report comment
Fickle.
I think the whole of Australia rejoiced when Deans faced the All Blacks for the first time and thrashed them. Australia under Deans secured its largest win over the All Blacks in nine years. Australia’s win in South Africa was its first win there in eight years. Deans also became the first Wallabies coach to win on the South African highveldt in 47 years after the team won 41–39 in Bloemfontein in 2010. After the win in Bloemfontein they backed it up with a win in Durban which gave the Wallabies back-to-back wins in South Africa for the first time in 48 years. He has won 6 of the last 7 encounters with the Springboks and the last 5 against France with the most recent meeting in Paris at the end of 2010 seeing the then Six Nations champions humiliated by a record 59-16 scoreline where as the All Blacks have won 4 out of 5 in the same period against France. His winning percentage is 58.62% which is higher than the historical average of 52.37% and higher than Eddie Jones’s percentage.
He has had hiccups…but C’MON!!! Sure he lost to Samoa but remember Australia in the past has lost to Fiji and Tonga and he didn’t do that…Sure he lost to Scotland twice but Australia has lost 6 other times to Scotland without him. Don’t forget that it’s not the predominant sport there (as if I have to remind you) so cut him some slack. I’m not saying there aren’t better coaches out there but give the guy some credit.
June 14th 2012 @ 6:59am
TackleBerry said | June 14th 2012 @ 6:59am | Report comment
Richie… stop cheating at breakdown
June 14th 2012 @ 7:06am
Riccardo said | June 14th 2012 @ 7:06am | Report comment
Was wondering how long it would take
Richie, stop it.
Your sound reasoning and factual analysis will get in the way of the lynch mob who aren’t even prepared to wait until the Rugby Championship before having their night of the long knives.
June 14th 2012 @ 10:35am
Richie McCaw said | June 14th 2012 @ 10:35am | Report comment
Cheating/playing/owning/dominating/commanding/being effective – all interchangeable IMO. 8)
June 14th 2012 @ 12:10pm
Sage said | June 14th 2012 @ 12:10pm | Report comment
Pretty fair analysis RMcCaw. It’s good to see you saying positive things about the WB’s even if it is only to defend Dingo.
Glad to see you list the 6 from 7 SA wins and our superior record against the French than the AB’s too without even a mention of the “we weren’t really trying” line that usually accompanies those discussions. In fact trotting out those statistics without any mention of the usual disclaimers is refreshing for a change. Less than a week ago we Aussies were being accused of both accepting mediocrity on the Wales win as well as being reminded not to take anything from the Tri win. So yes, your comments are interesting Mr McCaw.
Garth seems to focus on his lexicon rather than readability at times but I agree with most of the points. History is the key for rating any coach (assuming there is one) and Robbies is there for all to see. The Wales win was good but I agree Garth, “to vindicate Robbie Deans on the back of Australia’s defeat of Wales is illogical”. I think his legacy will be a bit better than you suggest but not a lot. Professionalism in my opinion isn’t defined by consistency in this instance. To say he hasn’t achieved consistency yes, to say that therefore he is unprofessional, not so much.
June 14th 2012 @ 4:32pm
Richie McCaw said | June 14th 2012 @ 4:32pm | Report comment
Yeah, I just feel that since he still has a contract still in place people should be a wee bit more supportive even if they don’t agree with the direction he’s going in. He still might turn things around, you never know. I’m surprised he has done as well as he has with all of the personnel issues he’s had to deal with over his tenure.
June 14th 2012 @ 5:31pm
Sage said | June 14th 2012 @ 5:31pm | Report comment
Agreed Mr McCaw and while I have your attention,” hands off black 7″.
June 14th 2012 @ 7:10pm
Richie McCaw said | June 14th 2012 @ 7:10pm | Report comment
June 15th 2012 @ 5:35pm
IronAwe said | June 15th 2012 @ 5:35pm | Report comment
I also was hoping Alan Jones would get it, (If Deans didn’t) I wonder if he’ll put his hand up again at the end of Deans’ tenure…
June 14th 2012 @ 3:11am
Mick said | June 14th 2012 @ 3:11am | Report comment
I think all clichés need to be taken with a grain of salt (or a caveat), for instance “rugby is a game for all shapes and sizes” is assuming that the person starts at a young age (with any shape or size), then they can usually become a successful player.
e.g. If a young boy is:
short and skinny = 9, 10
short and average/stocky = 2, 6, 12
short and heavy = 1, 2, 3
tall and heavy = 3, 4, 5, 8
tall and skinny = 4, 5, 13+
“average build” = 6, 7, 10+
(no offence intended for any short, skinny, average, heavy and/or tall people! And sorry to not ‘pigeon-hole’ 11, 13, 14 and 15!)
So the “all shapes and sizes” statement makes fairly good sense IF a person starts at an early age. I think this saying also works when rugby is compared to other sports. Short / heavy people often aren’t suited to most sports, and if they are, then tall or skinny people aren’t suited. e.g. a marathon runner can’t be a sumo wrestler, or vice-versa. But with a rugby upbringing, a marathon runner could have become a winger, or a sumo wrestler a prop.
“You are only as good as your last game” – most terrible cliché there is, have always hated that one.
Remember, many hands spoil the broth!
June 14th 2012 @ 7:03am
Albo said | June 14th 2012 @ 7:03am | Report comment
Exactly.
Rugby IS a game for all sizes. Professional rugby (which makes up probably 0.1% of total players) is not.
June 14th 2012 @ 3:50am
kingplaymaker said | June 14th 2012 @ 3:50am | Report comment
This is a very nice article to read although I dissent from its thesis. Logically scheduling a game three days after Super rugby means many players will be unusually tired, logically scheduling the same game four days before another international means the first team won’t be available, logically scheduling it on a tuesday means there will be a maximum of one day’s training session.
The loss should not be much mitigated by the freak condititions and mass of injuries to key backs because those are factors that should be included, but scheduling that completely undermines the selection, readiness and and preparation of a team is a mitigating factor that would appear quite logical.
Nor can such losses and the test of depth fail to take account of Australia’s awful player pool, something this article doesn’t mention, and which logically means that Australia doesn’t have the depth to field two teams in a week, something which has nothing to do with Deans.
An article such as this claims Deans cannot be vindicated for the loss without even mentioning the two factors which would do so: the scheduling and weak player pool. Hence it does not convince logically.
June 14th 2012 @ 5:37am
The Werewolf said | June 14th 2012 @ 5:37am | Report comment
100% agree!
June 14th 2012 @ 3:56am
Vijay Singh said | June 14th 2012 @ 3:56am | Report comment
You guys just don’t get it. Until you start producing decent tight forwards in Australia you are going nowhere. When was the last time that Australia produced a pack that put the fear of God in to anyone? You had an advantage in the past during amateurism as you were fitter, more creative, and some players were definitely being paid. Until some of the thugs start choosing Union over League it’s going to be more of the same.
I doubt Graham Henry, Wayne Smith, or even Joe Schmidt would get any more out of the Wallabies than Deans is now.
June 14th 2012 @ 8:52pm
Original Ben S said | June 14th 2012 @ 8:52pm | Report comment
But you don’t have to put the fear of God into people, you just have to gain something approaching parity and make sure things like re-starts etc are tight. The 1999 pack was hardly a fearsome unit, but it was technically accurate.
June 15th 2012 @ 5:38pm
IronAwe said | June 15th 2012 @ 5:38pm | Report comment
I often wonder about that. Had a conversation with a mate recently and I said I think the reasons we under perform so much is because the kind of guys we need in the forwards end up playing league instead.
June 14th 2012 @ 3:58am
The Werewolf said | June 14th 2012 @ 3:58am | Report comment
Look at the end of the day it was a game of two halves and we all know forwards win matches and the backs just decide by how much.
There is no ‘i’ in team so it was a team effort and we got over the line off the back of giving one hundred and ten per cent.
You can only play whats in front of you and score more points than the opposition.
But full credit to our boys it was a tough match and they are always hard to beat.
Thanks so much to the crowd for coming out.
June 14th 2012 @ 7:49am
Red Kev said | June 14th 2012 @ 7:49am | Report comment
You sir, have just won this thread.
June 14th 2012 @ 7:55am
M.O.C. said | June 14th 2012 @ 7:55am | Report comment
He is leading from the front
June 14th 2012 @ 8:25am
Kane said | June 14th 2012 @ 8:25am | Report comment
At the end of the day the team with more points on the board has a better chance of winning
June 15th 2012 @ 7:02am
wannabprop said | June 15th 2012 @ 7:02am | Report comment
We were talking about that during the week…
June 14th 2012 @ 8:25am
kingplaymaker said | June 14th 2012 @ 8:25am | Report comment
Indeed, keep fronting up and don’t throw in the towel until the fat lady sings.
June 14th 2012 @ 12:13pm
Michael said | June 14th 2012 @ 12:13pm | Report comment
They got the rub-of-the-green tonight, but, look, at the end of the day, the sun comes up in the morning. It takes more than one brick to build a house, and we’ll be better for this next saturday.
June 14th 2012 @ 5:50pm
AussieKiwi said | June 14th 2012 @ 5:50pm | Report comment
He left nothing on the paddock!
June 14th 2012 @ 9:47pm
p.Tah said | June 14th 2012 @ 9:47pm | Report comment
There is a website devoted to it!
http://www.sportscliche.com
June 14th 2012 @ 11:05am
Justin2 said | June 14th 2012 @ 11:05am | Report comment
If only Deans could speak that clearly
June 14th 2012 @ 12:14pm
Sage said | June 14th 2012 @ 12:14pm | Report comment
Well said sir
June 14th 2012 @ 3:41pm
Kuruki said | June 14th 2012 @ 3:41pm | Report comment
Full credit to the Werewolf
June 14th 2012 @ 5:37pm
MR said | June 14th 2012 @ 5:37pm | Report comment
Magic. End of story
June 14th 2012 @ 9:35pm
murph73 said | June 14th 2012 @ 9:35pm | Report comment
At the end of the day…the sun goes down
June 14th 2012 @ 9:44pm
DC of nz said | June 14th 2012 @ 9:44pm | Report comment
We are only thinking about our next game
The boys dug deep tonight and I am proud of them
Yeah thanks canno we talked about that during the week and we were very happy with our defence tonight
There is still a lot of room for improvement and we can’t afford to be complacent
Winner is Robbie Deans: evidently we didn’t match up to that challenge tonight …zz
June 14th 2012 @ 10:45pm
ohtani's jacket said | June 14th 2012 @ 10:45pm | Report comment
Win if you can, lose if you must, but always cheat at the breakdown.
June 14th 2012 @ 10:58pm
Frank O'Keeffe said | June 14th 2012 @ 10:58pm | Report comment
Thanks Bobby the Brain!
June 14th 2012 @ 4:46am
Armchair Sportsfan said | June 14th 2012 @ 4:46am | Report comment
love it….
oh…and they’re only taking it one game at a time, coz every week is a grand final
June 14th 2012 @ 5:26am
El Gamba said | June 14th 2012 @ 5:26am | Report comment
It is a game of two halves though right? Or can we blame Deans for doing something to that as well?
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June 14th 2012 @ 7:16am
RedSkippy said | June 14th 2012 @ 7:16am | Report comment
What about consistency this weekend….if we produce three wins we may be a step closer to the consistency many yearn for and speak of….and frankly anything less than three wins will not vindicate the loss to Scotland.
June 14th 2012 @ 7:43am
Shungmao said | June 14th 2012 @ 7:43am | Report comment
Deans bashing is getting boring, and White loving is even worse. White wouldn’t take the role even if it was offered because its a poison challice (plus Link is sitting a lot higher on the pecking order.) Wallabies performance has to sit just as much on the Super Rugby coaches as it does Deans. Deans has a week to prepare for 3 weeks of tests verse the most improving team in the world but yet what is rocking up to his wallaby squad is questionable. Robinson looks like he’s swallowed a dwarf this year, Moore and TPM throwing has got worse, we have up and coming line out jumpers who are technically floored, we have guys playing 6,8 at super level but switching the following week and we seem surprised by some on garbage higgingbotham dished out at scrum time against Scotland and let’s not start on the backs. Our lack of depth constantly forces us to scramble people into positions they are not best suited. A.Faingaa is case in point, I will never bag the man because even he admits he’s not a 13 but he puts in week in week out and competes, Links options to play him at 12…..zero , the same issue every super club has with having no centers.
Let’s stop looking for scape goats and look at wholistically at the issues of Aussie rugby and we might just get to number 1 again.
June 14th 2012 @ 8:59am
ohtani's jacket said | June 14th 2012 @ 8:59am | Report comment
You just listed a bunch of scape goats.
June 14th 2012 @ 8:14am
kingplaymaker said | June 14th 2012 @ 8:14am | Report comment
Shungmao for what it’s worth I don’t think White would want the job before 2015 so he could have a full four year run before the RWC and also to have time to put together a better CV than Mckenzie before applying. There’s no way someone would go to offer advice to the national coach if he wanted his job the next year. It’s in fact very much in White’s interests for Deans to succeed, so the job doesn’t come up next year before he’s had a chance to eclipse Mckenzie as a Super rugby coach. The entire reason White is in Australia is for the Wallabies job as he can’t get any of the other four major nations’ positions (NZ,SA, England, France).
June 14th 2012 @ 1:49pm
stillmissit said | June 14th 2012 @ 1:49pm | Report comment
KPM: Normally agree but what the hell is this? “have time to put together a better CV than Mckenzie ” McKenzie has a good brain and has been at it for a fair while but prior to taking over the Reds his CV was looking very basic. Compare that to White’s and there is daylight, IF he put his hand up McKenzie would run second – guaranteed…..
June 14th 2012 @ 2:12pm
kingplaymaker said | June 14th 2012 @ 2:12pm | Report comment
stillmissit you’re right of course but Mckenzie is Australian which is a huge advantage (in the eyes of many) and has just won SR, so if the coaching position was allotted next year they would doubtless give it to him given the current obsession with getting a non-Australian coach. If the job doesn’t come up until 2015 then White will have the chance to win SR once or even twice thereby negating Mckenzie’s recent advantage and meaning White has won it with an AUSTRALIAN team, improving his Australian credentials. So what I meant even if I didn’t express it correctly is that the extra two years give White the opportunity to make his CV look better than Mckenzie’s IN THEY EYES OF THOSE MAKING THE APPOINTMENT, not anyone objective that is, but those who would love to have an Australian.
June 14th 2012 @ 4:24pm
stillmissit said | June 14th 2012 @ 4:24pm | Report comment
KPM: Now I understand – I should read these smart posts better than I do………………………………