Deans will leave a legacy of unprofessionalism at the Wallabies
By Garth Hamilton, 14 Jun 2012 Garth Hamilton is a Roar Expert
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Robbie Deans showed he can win with the Wallabies win over Wales, but the Australian team has capitulated against the All Blacks (AAP Image/Dave Hunt)
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It is easy to deride a sportsman’s post match interview for the cliché and aphorism laden spiel that is so often spurted forth like some flailing hosepipe of rote-learned monkey gibberish.
It is very difficult, however, to write a sports article that does not utilise or rely upon the assumed wisdom of the same.
Clichés and aphorisms share much with sport: destined for continued repetition and of uncertain and flickering meaning.
A rather sly old English teacher taught me the seditious delight of overturning clichés in bad literature and exposing their indefensible shortcomings and it is a habit I have no intention of dropping. Take for example the statement that rugby is a game for all shapes and sizes.
Apply a mere dab of scrutiny and we find that a few additions to that statement are needed to describe the reality. Firstly, we should stipulate that all these shapes and sizes be of the sporting variety for no frail constitution can withstand a collision sport.
If we want the statement to hold for those who are successful at the sport then we also need to add that those shapes and sizes hold about 10 kilos more muscle mass than the average bloke on the street.
Finally we should add that there are conditions to those sizes and shapes. A small, lithe man like Shane Williams certainly could play rugby at the highest level but would he have been successful if was possessing only average speed and agility. Could a giant like Andries Bekker play if he didn’t have the co-ordination and athleticism that many men of similar height struggle to attain?
So rugby is a game for sporting types of enhanced shapes and sizes that meet certain conditions specific to each shape and size.
This victory of logic over bollocks will not, I fear, rank among the great achievements of the Aristotelian tradition but it serves as a useful introduction to the deconstruction of a sporting aphorism that has great implications for Robbie Deans and the perception of his legacy.
You are only as good as your last game.
Google registers 437,000 individual matches of that exact phrase which is used to both deride those who rest on their laurels but also to bolster those who have only recently overturned a period of failure.
Consider this phrase in terms of Scotland’s recent defeat of the Wallabies. Are Scotland an equal to the southern hemisphere teams now? I’ll let you mull over that for a while and then tell you the answer.
It’s no.
Are Scotland improving? Possibly; they played very well in their loss to England in the first round of the most recent Six Nations but didn’t really build on it. If we accept that their win over Australia was the result of progress under Andy Robinson how useful is a the result of that single game in establishing the nature of that progress?
We can yet keep the cliché alive by slightly altering it to ‘your last game is an indicator of your progress’. That statement is rather begging for a qualifier so, if we feel that a better indicator of progress can be attained from a deeper view, say the last 5 games, then this would leave the cliché again changed to ‘your last game is a poor indicator of your progress’.
The point, which enduring readers are now no doubt now clamouring for, is that any attempt to vindicate Robbie Deans on the back of Australia’s defeat of Wales is illogical.
Under Robbie Deans, Australia has demonstrated a clear inability to achieve consistency which has resulted in them experiencing rather embarrassing defeats by teams that Australia had distinct advantages over.
Scotland, Samoa, Ireland at the World Cup and Scotland again.
Robbie Deans’ legacy as coach of the Australian team will be one of responsibility for unprofessional levels of inconsistency by a young team that is still malleable in its sense of self and what it considers to be an acceptable performance.
The win against Wales contained some wonderful rugby but until we stop losing games we clearly shouldn’t we are simply not as good as our last win.
We are somewhere between the win against Wales and the loss to Scotland.
Enjoy the win, but we are still a team that bumbles and trips up, that accepts inexcusable defeats, that lapses and wanes, that occasionally doesn’t appear to know what it is doing and that tosses up weak excuses when it does so.
There is not a realm of human endeavour where that sort of behaviour would be considered acceptable while it is being paid for.
In short, the Wallabies are not professional and whether he deserves it or not, that is going to be Deans legacy.
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June 14th 2012 @ 8:47am
Parisien said | June 14th 2012 @ 8:47am | Report comment
I go with Garth on this one. I don’t think any coach should stay more than four years anyway unless his name is Guy Noves or Graham Henry (and he’s got the runs on the board, the money in the bank, the result in the bag etc etc).
June 14th 2012 @ 9:58am
Gary Russell-Sharam said | June 14th 2012 @ 9:58am | Report comment
I agree with the nub of the post in that Deans’ tenure has been flawed by the fluctuating performances of the Wallabies. Someone might assist with some stats but I can’t remember other coaches of the Wallabies having such fluctuations that Deans has.
Either they were consistently bad or consistently good not as Deans has shown, going from really bad to really good in the space of a week. That what really annoys me about his coaching tenure.
I know that KPM is always going on about the lack of talent in Australian rugby etc etc and is always making excuses for Deans ie short turn around for the Scotland test, but at the end of the day (another cliche) his team didn’t win against a team that the Wallabies should have beaten and he should be held responsible for that result, not have excuses made for him like that have been trotted out in the past.
To be a successful coach winning is what it is all about and Deans’ winning % is not that good. All you poster will get on and say he has an equitable record to Jones and Knuckles and others and I agree but one thing is important to notice. They got the sack because their performance wasn’t up to what is expected.
So how does Deans hold on to his job???? How after every stunning defeat, Samoa, Scotland, Ireland, etc not to mention most of the time the ABs and quite often SA there is always a plether of excuses, there is always a multitude of posters bleating on about everything else that may have contributed to the defeat but avoiding the (IMO) the most glaring, in that Deans is not suited to coaching this team of Wallabies.
The Wallabies are in my view lurching along like a drunken sailor, tottering along for a short while then falling, a– over apex every now and again when they have an obstacle in their way. I lament this present time in the Wallabies history, we have had coaches before that have not fared well in the Wallabies history but none that I could think of has had more excuses made for him than Deans has. All those before him that have fared in parallel to him have been terminated well before the length of tenure that he has enjoyed.
I look forward to the next year or two gloomy future of bumbling Wallabies under Deans. Do not think that I do not rate him as a coach I do rate him but not at this level and certainly not for the Wallabies. IMO Deans is a good sound coach at Super Rugby Level in his own country of NZ. I say this without discrimination as I mean that he understands the culture of his own country but has struggled to get into the heads of the Wallabies. His taciturn turn of phrase is lost in the interpretation. I sure it has a place in Christchurch and is thought to be very endearing but I’m over the (speaking in tongues) at the post and pre match interviews. I have been in recent times having secret thoughts of wishing (and I hate myself for doing so) that the wallabies would have three or so loses in a row so that the ARU might be forced to terminate Robbie Deans’ coaching contract and get someone else.
June 14th 2012 @ 11:00am
colvin said | June 14th 2012 @ 11:00am | Report comment
In the end it’s a bit sad reading these posts. How does Robbie keep his job? Because he’s the best man out there and luckily the ARU does not follow the views of the anti-crowd on Roar.
Who remembers just a few months ago the call was that Link was no good and no team could win with him as coach? This was because the Reds were going through a slow patch.
It would be a sad day if Jake became Wallabies coach. In the end you need to have an Aussie as head coach. Robbie was appointed because he was the best man available at the time and his appointment was really a result of exceptional circumstances because there was no ready Aussie available. But that’s not the case now and his replacement needs to be an Aussie, but only after Robbie has done his time.
Can you imagine the AB’s head coach coming from another country? The WBs could do it once under exceptional circumstances but that’s generally it.
June 14th 2012 @ 2:14pm
stillmissit said | June 14th 2012 @ 2:14pm | Report comment
Colvin I would agree if I thought there was an Australian coach out there who could do great things with the Wallabies. I don’t think there is, including McKenzie. His problem to my mind is two fold one is his conservatism, which seems to overtake him after a couple of seasons and the other is his soft nature, basically he is a nice guy and his players just take him for a ride. Why would a winning coach, building a good resume after a couple of average gigs, pack it in to a guy he has brought into the group?
Nucifora did a dreadful job with the under 20′s world cup team. They played one dimensional 10 year old tactics with little speed or enthusiasm. Who else is there to consider as Australian coach?
We need to focus on our coaching abilities as I think it is going down the toilet. Who is mentoring these guys? Are they just grown out of well meaning amateurs, who then find themselves in the glaring sunlight of media speculation?
June 14th 2012 @ 5:12pm
colvin said | June 14th 2012 @ 5:12pm | Report comment
stillmissit,
There’s plenty of good people around if the right development programs are put in place to move them up the tree.
In NZ, just under the ABs coaches, there’s a good number of coaches who have coached internationally eg Wayne Smith, Gats, Robbie, Kirwan, John Mitchell etc.; then there are a good number of highly thought of coaches overseas including for example Plumtree, Schmidt, Russell, Penny, Crowley,etc.; then there are the SR coaches, Hammett, Joseph, Rennie, Lam, Blackadder. Then under that there are the SR assistants and then the NPL coaches. I’m sure there’s plenty more. NZ rugby coaching is in good heart.
If you look at Australia, there’s a large number of well qualified coaches out there. The issue is for them to be on a proper development plan so that there is a clear pathway for advancement.
I didn’t look too hard, but I was able to come up with the following list;
McKenzie, Scott Bowen, Graham, Friend, Cheika, Foley, Hickey, Muggelton, McGahan, Gaffney, Nucifora, Pat Howard, Scott Johnson, Brian Smith, Tim Lane, Jim Williams, Matt Williams, Laurie Fisher, Matt O’Connor, Gregan, Burke, Larkham, Kafer, Finagan, Jim MacKay, Matt Taylor, Damain Hill, Nathan Grey, Scrivener.
I’m sure there’s plenty more. I wonder does the ARU maintain a top 20 list and take steps to see that their great hopes for the future get the required experience. From the above list you could make sure there are ample coaches for Australian rugby and you don’t need to rely on bringing in people from overseas. Certainly the development of coaches in Australia is equally as important as the development of players.
June 15th 2012 @ 6:07pm
mikeylives said | June 15th 2012 @ 6:07pm | Report comment
Why do you use Nucifora to prove a point about McKenzie. Gone soft after a couple of seasons? Almost takes an average Tahs team to Super14 title in his second year, then takes Reds to Super15 title in his second season with some of the least conservative play in the comp. Appears to refute your point.
June 14th 2012 @ 10:17am
p.Tah said | June 14th 2012 @ 10:17am | Report comment
“…rank among the great achievements of the Aristotelian tradition but it serves as a useful introduction to the deconstruction of a sporting aphorism that has great implications for Robbie Deans” Hmmmm…I think I should have paid more attention in my English classes at school
June 14th 2012 @ 12:40pm
Bigbaz said | June 14th 2012 @ 12:40pm | Report comment
Yes,this bloke is pretty impressed with himself.
June 14th 2012 @ 10:26am
Comrade Bear said | June 14th 2012 @ 10:26am | Report comment
“It doesn’t matter if you win or loose – it is how you play the game” …
How are we playing – not too well under Deans.
June 14th 2012 @ 10:40am
kingplaymaker said | June 14th 2012 @ 10:40am | Report comment
CB the performance of the Australian pack against a very strong Welsh pack last week was exceptional. Australia had lost most of its big stars (Beale, Cooper, JOC), the Welsh team was near full strength, several Australian players had played three matches in a week or at least two, there had only been one training session, and yet the team beat Wales. That according to you is not playing well.
June 14th 2012 @ 12:03pm
Wallaby Supporter said | June 14th 2012 @ 12:03pm | Report comment
Robbie for PM.
June 14th 2012 @ 1:17pm
Quakezone.... said | June 14th 2012 @ 1:17pm | Report comment
hahahahaha Robbie Deans is the greatest …keep him.
We didn’t have clarity in…blah blah blah
Play whats in front of you … hahahha
He is good at SR level where you can afford a few losses to bottom placed and still win the comp. International Rugby is different and he is not up to it – The talent is there…Australia can definitely field 22 players that can win consistently so why are they not performing? the backline talent when all is available is phenomenal (Bring back Sterlo to fill OC til one can be found) We have the forwards why are we so poor in technique?
THE COACH
June 14th 2012 @ 1:45pm
Wallaby Supporter said | June 14th 2012 @ 1:45pm | Report comment
we should bring back gregan larkham mortlock latham finegan
June 14th 2012 @ 1:46pm
Wallaby Supporter said | June 14th 2012 @ 1:46pm | Report comment
It doesnt matter if you win its how you lose the game that counts!
June 14th 2012 @ 1:47pm
Worlds Biggest said | June 14th 2012 @ 1:47pm | Report comment
Spot on Garth regarding Dingo and the Wallabies. It seems since Dingo took over in 2008 the quote ” young ” team get’s mentioned ad nauseum. This can no longer be used as an excuse. There is enough experience in this team / squad to overcome the ridiculous inconsistencies. Simply put the Number 2 ranked team in the World should not lose at home to Samoa and Scotland.
June 14th 2012 @ 2:01pm
stillmissit said | June 14th 2012 @ 2:01pm | Report comment
I think we get over awed with what our boys can do and what Deans can do with them.
They are not the bloody AB’s and they don’t have a bunch of well credentialed players chasing their spot. They are kids in men’s bodies and unfortunately you have to deal with many of them that way ie Cooper/Beale. You cannot deal with the Wallabies the way you do with the AB’s, Wallaby players don’t grow up dreaming of being a Wallaby, playing state of origin maybe, but not the Wallabies. Therefore you start behind a big hedge of strange ideology, fed by ego and greed.
Deans has never come to grips with why these guys won’t stand up when he treats them like men and listens to them. You must come to the Wallabies with a fixed idea of what you want to do (ie McQueen) and not let any of the whingey boys turn you from your purpose. In the end they buy into your ideas (providing you win) and then they all agree, that they all agreed with you from the start and could see great things coming etc etc
It is sad to say but most probably true from my viewpoint.
June 14th 2012 @ 9:48pm
DC of nz said | June 14th 2012 @ 9:48pm | Report comment
You are totally right on there mate