Senior players to decide who’ll be Maroons fullback
By ScottWoodward.me, 15 Jun 2012 ScottWoodward.me is a Roar Guru
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- Ben Barba, Billy Slater, Greg Inglis, Mal Meninga, NRL, Queensland Maroons, Rugby League
Player power may decide who plays the crucial fullback position in the third and deciding Origin game at Brisbane’s Suncorp Stadium on July 4.
If Billy Slater, as expected, is not available due to a grade three tear to his posterior cruciate ligament, then coach Mal Meninga and the selectors will consult the senior players for their input.
They did this last year when Greg Inglis was unavailable.
Darren Lockyer, Cam Smith, Cooper Cronk and Billy Slater chose the Storm’s Dane Nielsen, who could be in contention again should Inglis be asked to wear the number one jersey.
This is far from being a clear cut decision and while Slater is considered the world’s best fullback, the Maroons are fortunate that they have so many top class contenders, who, aside from Inglis, include Ben Barba, Darius Boyd and Matt Bowen.
Many experts consider Inglis every bit as good as Slater, but the Maroons would weaken the left centre position if he was moved. If it was not a series defining game that would give Queensland a record seven straight series wins, the dynamic Ben Barba would be an automatic selection, but the selectors are noted for being very conservative and may not want to risk Barba on debut in such a big game.
In his favour, he has trained with the team as a shadow.
Barba was the equal leading try scorer in the NRL last year and has already scored nine this season (Inglis five).
As good as Inglis is, Barba also leads him easily in try assists, line breaks, line break assists and his speciality, tackle breaks. He leads Inglis by a staggering 69 to 50 in this important area for a fullback, and he was number one in the NRL in 2012.
The senior players all know and trust Inglis and they will be comfortable knowing what to expect from him. With Barba, his team mates will be like his opposition: not knowing what to expect. They don’t know because Barba doesn’t know. He plays on instinct.
The player’s biggest concern with Barba will be stage fright and facing the high bomb under pressure. All the great stats in the world count for nothing if you cannot handle the big occasion. Just ask Todd Carney.
Everything we have seen from this years Origin has indicated we could be seeing a “changing of the guard” with the Blues forwards dominating Queensland.
The Blues forwards have always been competitive against the Maroons, but over the last six years they have not been able to find the answers to their brilliant backs like Billy Slater, Jonathan Thurston, Cam Smith, Darren Lockyer and Cooper Cronk, who have always been able to come up with the right backline moves to clinch the series.
With the prospect of the Maroons running out for Origin III without the great Slater, and a new dominant Blues forward pack ready to go again, we are looking at another cracker of a game.
Mal Meninga will welcome back Sam Thaiday and overall his tattered team should be fitter. The Maroons suffered in game two with injuries to Tate, Hodges, Scott, Harrison, Parker on top of a clearly off the pace Thurston. They have three weeks to get everything right and come up with a series saving formula.
They will run onto Suncorp with some optimism knowing that they suffered heavy injuries during the game, lost Cronk for ten minutes to the sin bin and that they only lost by four points.
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June 15th 2012 @ 1:17am
Johnno said | June 15th 2012 @ 1:17am | Report comment
-Darius Boyd for mine he played so well for australia last year at fullback in slaters absence and is a big game player always lifts on the big stage. A bit like dale shearer seems to have no time for club footy just loves grand finals, origin, and playing for australia the big matches.
-Barba an unknown but fantastic stats, and everyone loves matt bowen
And if Hodges is out put Greg Inglis/brent tate centre combination. The brilliant Tate will get his hand on the ball more or bring in willie tonga
-And the great Lote tiquri has to be brought in on the wing too god a player to leave out, look at his record he has been, a superstar for Australia and QLD.
June 15th 2012 @ 9:03am
ScottWoodward.me said | June 15th 2012 @ 9:03am | Report comment
Johnno
u have said some silly things but thanks anyway.
I dont think Bowen is a millions because Thurston will want him and he is experienced, not to mention he is in career best form.
There is no doubt Boyd lifts on the big stage but really his ratings at 1 for the Knights is terrible which must be a yardstick.
Hodges will be fine.
June 15th 2012 @ 8:58am
jamesb said | June 15th 2012 @ 8:58am | Report comment
I’d put Bowen at fullback and leave Inglis in the centres.
More dangerous combo, than Neilson in the centres, and Inglis at fullback.
Is Barba ready to make an origin debut in the decider?
I’m sure NSW would be hammering away with bombs all night at barba’s direction.
June 15th 2012 @ 9:05am
ScottWoodward.me said | June 15th 2012 @ 9:05am | Report comment
jamesb
They are so lucky they have so many good options.
Inglis and Barba are the super stars in hot form, but Barba is unknown and they will bomb all night to him.
June 15th 2012 @ 9:15am
Fivehole said | June 15th 2012 @ 9:15am | Report comment
If its Mitchell Pearce kicking the bombs, Barba will have no problems.
June 15th 2012 @ 10:47am
ScottWoodward.me said | June 15th 2012 @ 10:47am | Report comment
Fivehole,
Funny….Mitchell is a very good club player and he is lucky that he has always had good forward packs both at club abd rep level.
I thought he tried his heart out last wed., but I have not seen any improvement in his game now for 3 years which is no rap for his coaches and club captain.
To be honest, NSW dont have anyone any better at this point.
June 15th 2012 @ 12:12pm
Fivehole said | June 15th 2012 @ 12:12pm | Report comment
Agreed Scott. Defensively he is great. He just lacks that ability to create something from nothing. Needs to run the ball more i think.
June 15th 2012 @ 3:02pm
ScottWoodward.me said | June 15th 2012 @ 3:02pm | Report comment
Fivehole
He needs to run the team
June 15th 2012 @ 9:29am
spek said | June 15th 2012 @ 9:29am | Report comment
Wrong Wrong Wrong: GI slots into full back. The spine is more important than the centre. Qld a better side with GI for Slater rather than Barba or Boyd imho. The big advantage here is that it keeps GI involved in the game in a way he was not last SOO. also he is most damaging when given 5 – 10m open space to motor. would be awesome returner of punts and has already shown great catching skills under pressure defusing those predictable bombs of Pearce. As good as Slater is NSw face a different beast with GI charging on the return kick.
Who marks up against that large unit Morris? : Tate the obvious choice has played centre before and is in geat form, great attacking skills and v. solid defense.
Grahman on the wing (leading point scorer in NRL and on the way to break most tries at cowboys currently held by Matt Bowen). He time is here. v. experienced and he badly wants a Maroon Jersey.
I would include Barba on the bench if so some reason GI had to m ove back to the cenres because of injury. But he is a bit of a specialist full back right now. Not sure how he would mark up,against either Hayne or Uate.
spek.
June 15th 2012 @ 10:52am
ScottWoodward.me said | June 15th 2012 @ 10:52am | Report comment
spek,
I am Prez of the Barba fan club and wrote a story months back that Barba should be on the bench, but if you held a gun at my head, I would wont Inglis in such a crunch game.
I am saying that knowing that Barba believe it or not is better at making line breaks, line break assists and tackle breaks.
If it is GI, Nielsen will be centre.
June 15th 2012 @ 11:33am
spek said | June 15th 2012 @ 11:33am | Report comment
I cannot really comment on Barba but debut him in the biggest and hottest game of rugby league in the world this year (winner takes all) at full back with Pearce addicted to bombing? That is the biggest and boldest state of origin selection since….i am not sure when.
that said i am afraid Mal will be ultra cautous and move boyd to full back and then hopefully bring Graham on to the wing.
all up this is a really massive decsion for Qld selectors and maybe the problem is too many options and too many opportunities to make a mistake.
ps that is a titanic amount of pressure to put on any player. look at Carney’s debut for what can happen to a super talented player.
June 15th 2012 @ 3:08pm
ScottWoodward.me said | June 15th 2012 @ 3:08pm | Report comment
spek
Boyd has shown nothing in attack at fullback since last year. I would change my ratings in NSW favour if they gave the job to him.
In 5 years time we may be laughing about why they did not pick Barba. We just dont know how good he is, but he is much more advanced than Thurston was at the same time at the Bulldogs.
I cannot bag his selection, but it would be gutzy.
As for Graham, he is terrible in defence. I dont have him as an Origin player.
June 15th 2012 @ 9:29am
Pete said | June 15th 2012 @ 9:29am | Report comment
As a NSW supporter I hope like hell that they dont put Inglis back there!
That man is too dominant at the moment and would destroy us
June 15th 2012 @ 3:09pm
ScottWoodward.me said | June 15th 2012 @ 3:09pm | Report comment
Pete,
He certainly would be fav for Man of the Match, providing the selectors got it right this time.
June 15th 2012 @ 12:55pm
Meesta Cool said | June 15th 2012 @ 12:55pm | Report comment
GI has been great at fullback, Graham is a proven try scorer and is used to playing with Thurston,, to my mind the solution is simple.
June 15th 2012 @ 3:10pm
ScottWoodward.me said | June 15th 2012 @ 3:10pm | Report comment
Meesta
They wont move Tate, fullstop.
June 15th 2012 @ 12:56pm
Meesta Cool said | June 15th 2012 @ 12:56pm | Report comment
Although folks are wanting changes to the Blues, they played a great TEAM game on Wednesday, why disrupt a winning TEAM..
June 15th 2012 @ 3:11pm
ScottWoodward.me said | June 15th 2012 @ 3:11pm | Report comment
Meesta
The only possible change would be Tony Williams in for Creagh, but I doubt it.
June 17th 2012 @ 10:13pm
Droppa said | June 17th 2012 @ 10:13pm | Report comment
TEAM,TEAM,TEAM oooh what a caps on hero.Dumb comment as usual.
June 15th 2012 @ 1:11pm
The Barry said | June 15th 2012 @ 1:11pm | Report comment
I’m a massive Barba fan but don’t think it’s fair to blood him in this game. He will play plenty of games for the Maroons over the years don’t worry about that.
I can’t recall Inglis (or any of the other centres on either team for that matter) receiving the ball on the end of a free-flowing backline movement. If anything Inglis is wasted in the centres. His form at fullback for the bunnies has been red hot.
It also allows the Maroons to slot Nielsen – who was there last year straight into centre – so minimises disruption.
Boyd is struggling at club level and other than catching the ball and falling over the line twice hasn’t set the world on fire.
Bowen is a legend but I’d imagine it’s been about 5 or 6 years since he’s played Origin.
June 15th 2012 @ 3:16pm
ScottWoodward.me said | June 15th 2012 @ 3:16pm | Report comment
Baz
There is a good argument for all of them, and that is why I think the senior players will have a big say.
I think Cronk and Smith will want Inglis at fullback and Niesen in at centre, and Thurston will plump for Bowen. That leaves Barba to be wanted by Mal and selectors, maybe.
Barba can still play on the bench and Cronk can go to lock late in the game. He would have been handy in Sydney.
June 15th 2012 @ 3:21pm
steve b said | June 15th 2012 @ 3:21pm | Report comment
Greg Inglis will play fullback,,no doubt at all..
June 15th 2012 @ 6:58pm
ScottWoodward.me said | June 15th 2012 @ 6:58pm | Report comment
Thanks Mal
June 15th 2012 @ 7:35pm
steve b said | June 15th 2012 @ 7:35pm | Report comment
Dont be swearing Scott !!!
June 17th 2012 @ 10:57pm
Dan Metcalfe said | June 17th 2012 @ 10:57pm | Report comment
Has to be Bowen. He and JT are red hot for the Cowboys, he has done it before and Qld success has been brought about by Qlds left edge of JT, Inglis and Boyd. Why mess with that. Bowen also has great defence saves a lot of tries and can also fill a heap of spots if we have injuries. he is one of the unique players a bit like preston campbell that can play 1, 6, 7&9. At fullback he provides confidence and beleif and if Smith is targeted and is cartered off he can fill in there and then have a re juggle if required. I am concerned about Cronk touted as not missing much without Lockie there anymore he is the under performer. Mal would be wise to return to prince who combined with JT to win game 2 in 08 and set up the first scoring opp in game 3 prior to coming off with an injured arm.Prince is in blistering form now and is running at the line with the Titans and I think he is a better option than Cronk who I think has been a litte dissapointing.