GWS Giants vs Richmond: AFL live score, blog
Roar Guru By The Cattery, 16 Jun 2012 The Cattery is a Roar Guru
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Jack Riewoldt celebrates another goal - are the Tigers a real chance or is this another false dawn for supporters? (Slattery Images)
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The AFL’s newest club hosts its second game at their new home ground, still chasing an historic first win in Sydney. Join us at 2:10pm AEST for minute-by-minute commentary and live score updates when the Giants host the Tigers at Skoda Stadium.
The true sleeping giant of AFL, the Richmond Football Club and their Yellow and Black Army, has stirred this season with some rousing victories against well-credentialed teams, but their run up the ladder was halted last week by an unexpected home loss to Fremantle.
Thus a follow up game against the Giants comes at the perfect time for the Tigers, who will be keen to atone and coach, Damian Hardwick, will ensure that complacency is not an issue.
The Richmond spearhead, ‘jumping’ Jack Riewoldt, is getting over an ankle injury, having kept it in ice the past week, but it looks like he is a certain starter as he chases after Buddy Franklin in the race for the Coleman Medal.
In the pre-season game at Manuka, Riewoldt led the Giants defence a merry dance, but on this occasion, co-captain, Phil Davis, will be there to stand Riewoldt, and that will be one of the key battles in the game.
At the opposite end, last year’s number one draft pick, Jonathon Patton, will debut as a key forward. After an interrupted pre-season, it’s unlikely he is anywhere near full match fitness, so we can’t expect too much from him, nevertheless, the debut of a number one draft pick always carries its own interest.
Over the last few weeks, we have become accustomed to the Giants staying with their opponents for the first half of footy before being overrun in the second half to the tune of 10 or 11 goals.
A key focus for the Giants’ coaching staff today will be in imploring their young charges to stay with their opponents for an additional quarter, as they continue their development at AFL level.
It’s worth noting that last season Richmond was one of the scalps that the then newest club, the Gold Coast Suns, earned, but we are talking about a different Tiger outfit today, with real potential to figure in the finals.
That being the case, there is no way the Tigers will let this one slip, especially with a midfield division in great form, including ruckman Ivan Maric and prolific onballer, Trent Cotchin.
It’s also worth noting that two of the Giants’ better players in the last few weeks, ruckman Jonathon Giles and midfielder, Stephen Coniglio, are out injured, although Dean Brogan and Rhys Palmer are handy replacements.
With too much to play for, Richmond will win this with or without Jumping Jack. The fighting fury from Tigerland to purr to a comfortable win.
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10:36pm
The Cattery said | 10:36pm | Report comment
The GIANTS will play Melbourne at the MCG next Sunday in their first ever game at the home of Australian football.
10:35pm
The Cattery said | 10:35pm | Report comment
Worthwhile recalling that on top of Jonathon Patton’s exciting debut, two NSW boys also debuted.
Sam Schulz, from Culcairn, started as a sub, while Mark Whiley, from Finley was there from the opening bounce and got some good early touches, he certainly went in hard after the footy.
Finley is not a bad recruitment spot for the AFL, recalling the brownlow medalist and premiership player, Shane Crawford, also hails from there.
5:56pm
The Cattery said | 5:56pm | Report comment
Before I sign off on my live call, some 24 hours after the game finished, let me say that it was a real pleasure calling this young team and seeing Jonathon Patton on debut, backed up by Jeremy Cameron, one of the best on the ground.
Sydney footy fans have two beauties there, you are very lucky – this team will be something special in a few years time.
Thank you to all the League and soccer trolls for giving me a great post count.
Afterall, you too are part of this journey, the Giants exist as much for you as anyone else.
7:15pm
shirtfront said | 7:15pm | Report comment
Enjoyed your call cattery. Thanks.
The Giants will be an exciting addition to the Sydney sporting landscape in a few years. Can’t wait.
7:27pm
The Cattery said | 7:27pm | Report comment
thanks shirtfront – I’m looking forward to more giants games
8:30pm
Raf Nadir said | 8:30pm | Report comment
Anyone who points out reality of GWS to AFL fans is a troll?
I live in west Sydney and can tell you what GWS are really doing.
You should check your sports dictionary, accept the truth and look for ways to broaden your heart.
10:19pm
shirtfront said | 10:19pm | Report comment
Thanks Raf. Onwards and upwards.
10:24pm
The Cattery said | 10:24pm | Report comment
Yeh – you’re the one pretending to be a muslim.
You’re the one that played the race card in the “AFL” article you wrote.
But it turns out you’re just another skip pretending to be passionate about some soccer club overseas.
Spare us.
10:33pm
shirtfront said | 10:33pm | Report comment
Don’t let them get under your skin TC. Just sit back and enjoy a couple of decades of great footy. They’ll figure it out eventually….if not, their kids will. Haha!
10:41pm
The Cattery said | 10:41pm | Report comment
Well, until this weekend, the live calls of all games, in all sports have been sacred and off limits of trolling – so it beggars the question why things changed this weekend?
How far do you reckon you’d go jumping on the soccer and League live calls quizzing them about their pathetic crowds – I mean seriously – we’re talking absolutely pathetic crowds – the lowest of the low.
God – we could jump on every single game – and remind them of how pathetic their crowds are – even with their half decent crowds, we’d still be able to say: meh, not that good, to be perfectly honest – we could do it every weekend for ever and ever – we’d have a ball!!
10:49pm
shirtfront said | 10:49pm | Report comment
Amen. I would feel a bit sad about myself bagging on a live NRL or RU call. Very sad indeed.
My tip: Collingwood v Essendon grand final.
11:04pm
Will Travel said | 11:04pm | Report comment
So instead you go about throwing lables around just because people are refusing to follow AFL in GWS.
Its not to hard to see that it’s getting to you TC. You’re putting down the other estalished sports in the area while exstolling the virtures the AFL with more zeal then a seasoned preacher. You’re also attacking posters for pointing out the less then steller start for the GWS just because it doesn’ fit into the AFL utopia that only exsists in your head.
Sorry the only person who fears somthing is you, and your last dozen or so replys reek of it. So take the advice of your fellow AFL supporters and relax.
11:15pm
shirtfront said | 11:15pm | Report comment
Will. Why are you reading this? Less than steller…what…..what are doing wasting your time commenting on this blog?
5:53pm
The Cattery said | 5:53pm | Report comment
AndrewGigacz: GWS finished on 12.2.74 today. Only other side ever to do so was Hawthorn in 2008. Not sure GWS will go on to win the flag. #aflgiantstigers
5:51pm
The Cattery said | 5:51pm | Report comment
Hardwick on GWS: they’re going to be very, very good, very, very quickly, which is a concern to the rest of us.
5:51pm
The Cattery said | 5:51pm | Report comment
Shaunye33: Another learning curve for the boys! Love being apart of a team with all the young guns and all the experienced legends!! #AFLGiantsTigers
5:49pm
The Cattery said | 5:49pm | Report comment
The thing about the Giants can be summed up by two names: Jonathon Patton and Jeremy Cameron – two exciting key forward prospects, both still teenagers, will get better and better.
As they get better – support for GWS will grow and grow – it’s very exciting.
5:50pm
The Cattery said | 5:50pm | Report comment
@BenCuzzupe: The idea of Jon Patton and Jeremy Cameron; roaming the same forward line is a scary, scary thought.
5:45pm
The Cattery said | 5:45pm | Report comment
Dozens of new teams have been formed over the past decade in different sports – for the most part – no one gives a damn, and the majority are lucky to survive more than 10 years.
The A-League has lost 4 teams alone the past 5 years, while League has had five different attempts at establishing a team on the Gold Coast, supposedly, League heartland.
One thing is for sure – the Suns and Giants will outlast them all.
Is this why the League and soccer trolls are foaming at the mouth?
Smell the fear.
5:33pm
The Cattery said | 5:33pm | Report comment
I noticed that Cronulla had a special celebratory game last night, and 9,000 diehard fans turned up.
I hate to think how many turn up to a Cronulla game when they’re not celebrating something!!
5:42pm
Titus said | 5:42pm | Report comment
I have no idea but I am guessing that most of them are from Cronulla-Sutherland.
5:26pm
The Cattery said | 5:26pm | Report comment
If the ultra racism in Europe at the moment isn’t bad enough (and it is very bad), I’ve just seen this quote from the Azzurri’s Antonio Cassano when asked what he thought about gay footballers in the Azzurri squad:
“If they are faggots, it is their problem”.
5:39pm
Titus said | 5:39pm | Report comment
Sounds like Akermanis!
8:09pm
Brick Tamlin of the Pants Party said | 8:09pm | Report comment
HA i could imagine a talk back show with those two,Mornings with Aka and Casso!
10:39pm
Will Travel said | 10:39pm | Report comment
It looks likes some one broke The Cattery.
5:22pm
The Cattery said | 5:22pm | Report comment
The wonderful thing about the great Australian game is that we can teach the world how to behave at sporting fixtures – and Sydney can be a beneficiary as well, as we extend Australian sporting culture there.
5:17pm
The Cattery said | 5:17pm | Report comment
To the people of Sydney – I say to you – we will not give up on you!! You too deserve access to the great Australian game – and you will have it!!
Welcome to Australia!!
5:26pm
Titus said | 5:26pm | Report comment
Welcome to Western Sydney TC!
5:32pm
The Cattery said | 5:32pm | Report comment
I’ve got no intention of going there!!
5:36pm
Titus said | 5:36pm | Report comment
Neither do most of the GWS team.
3:37pm
The Cattery said | 3:37pm | Report comment
For all the League and soccer trolls – repeat after me:
690,000 members
$1.25 billion in TV rights
4:12pm
Mike said | 4:12pm | Report comment
I’m not sure what you’re on about Cattery, but you sound a bit pathetic to be honest, as my old man used to say, “give it away son, you’re making a fool of yourself”.
4:25pm
Cameron said | 4:25pm | Report comment
Oh, that was a really good rebuttal Mike, you should go and join the school debating team.
5:15pm
The Cattery said | 5:15pm | Report comment
MIke
I could say the same thing to you and all of your trolling mates: give it up!
I can also add:
Smell the fear!!
10:43pm
Will Travel said | 10:43pm | Report comment
These small GWS crowds are really starting to get to you, aren’t they TC?
4:19pm
MV Dave said | 4:19pm | Report comment
You need to read the attached article;
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/the-truth-about-cats-and-dogs-20100514-v4od.html
The TV $rights are decent though…
4:43pm
Brewski said | 4:43pm | Report comment
You probably post it every other week, i have seen stacks of trolls post it, pet memberships are not included in the AFL final tally, neither are BTW the 8,000 people on the WCE waiting list who pay $50 for the priveledge !, Richmond has had a ticketed/non ticketed membership that the AFL counted some but not the other for years.
But you know what, if someone is prepared to buy a membership for their pet, and the club gets the money who cares, except haters of course.
I am happy to talk about a sport i like all day, your not, got any other problems you need sorting out.
Anything else you need to get off your chest ?.
4:49pm
MV Dave said | 4:49pm | Report comment
Yeh…how come we have to wait 4 more weeks before the next GWS home game before we can do all this again?
4:54pm
Brewski said | 4:54pm | Report comment
So you admit your a troll then ?, a good one though, you know your fixtures !!.
8:16pm
Raf Nadir said | 8:16pm | Report comment
The only reason the AFL get “record memberships” every year is because they change the definition of a membership every year.
3 game memberships?
We are down to 1 game memberships now – yes 1 game memberships. So anyone who buys a ticket to a game is a club memeber”.
What’s next – four quarter memberships per game to quadruple the membership numbers?
5:16pm
The Cattery said | 5:16pm | Report comment
690,000 members
that’s money in the bank
in the meantime, the strategic plans of other sports it to encourage their meagre fans to whinge, whinge, whinge!!
7:31pm
Col Quinn said | 7:31pm | Report comment
TC,
The Giants had a good go today. Still doesnt change anything. They should be in the Hills District. Cant wait till St Kilda work them over though.
Oh, yes ,State of Origin (over 45,000 Melbournians having a great time, check the post code distribution) Perth fighting to have a SOO game there next year coursing Melbourne to up its ante
The four nations (and that rotates among several differnt countries)
The World Cup.
The chance to represent your Country.
The RU test in Melbourne last night really showed that there is interest in RL in Mlebourne just like there is interest in AFL in Sydney. The RU test could only get 30,000 and I bet there were 5,000 from north of the Murray and about 5,000 Welshmen. RL scored over 55,000 and only between 5 and 10 thou were from interstate.
CQ
7:37pm
The Cattery said | 7:37pm | Report comment
It’s not important the interest in SOO – when are league people going to understand – it’s 3 games per year – in the grand scheme of things – it amounts to nothing.
And it’s the same two teams – year after year.
It’s a bit like saying horse racing is popular just because everyone has a bet on Melbourne Cup day.
8:01pm
Col Quinn said | 8:01pm | Report comment
Richmond V Hawthorn, year after year isnt there anything more than having to play the same side year after year, when are we going to see AFL play a good international series and not lose to the Irish amateurs. Or even better play a test series against the NZer, in 50years, or in 250 years (if AFL still exists) the Chinese. You know you cant have a viable state series because the majority of the palyer come from Victoria.
Sorry TC but there is no need exagerate I can do it just as well as you can.
You should join the campaign now started in Sydney. It is called “The Giants for the HIlls”. Sydney siders dont object to the Giants just to the location.
7:57pm
Barry said | 7:57pm | Report comment
Stupid comparison. The Rugby union match was against the 6th or 7th placed team in terms of crowd drawing capacity, behind All Blacks, Springboks, Lions, England and Ireland. What would have the League attracted if they were playing against say, oh thats right there isn’t 6 or 7 rep teams to play against.
3:21pm
Mike said | 3:21pm | Report comment
Re the crowd: I was at yesterdays game at Skoda Stadium. I walked around 3/4 of the ground checking out the new stadium and was a bit taken aback when the crowd announcement of over 7000 came out. I thought it was about 1/5 full at best, so about 5000, but I’ll take their word for it.
What I can say is that Sydney’s location of sporting arenas combined with the public transport on offer must greatly effect sporting attendances of all codes. I live on the northern beaches and it took me 4 buses, 4 trains, 5km of walking and about 10 beers to get to and from the ground. In all it was 4 plus hours of travel to see the game, its no wonder Melbourne gets bigger crowds for all their sporting events.
12:45pm
Cameron said | 12:45pm | Report comment
While we are on the topic of expansion 2 article have emerged on the topic today.
http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/afl/afl-news/the-world-game-20120616-20h3g.html
http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/afl/afl-news/afl-plans-to-push-boundaries-20120616-20h4u.html
Don’t know where the AFL is sourcing these Chinese “athletes” from, but I’m assuming they would be from local soccer and basketball teams that have been invited by the AFL to try out, and lured by an all expenses paid trip to Australia for the two most promising athletes to come to the end of year combine.
3:07pm
Raf Nadir said | 3:07pm | Report comment
Not much of a crowd.
Who were they playing – the Auburn Tigers?
3:17pm
Brewski said | 3:17pm | Report comment
From little things, big things grow.
By Paul Kelly famous Aussie muso, great footballer as well … LOL
3:35pm
The Cattery said | 3:35pm | Report comment
Are you the bloke coming on here pretending to be a muslim?
What are you skips doing pretending to be wogs?
10:16am
The Cattery said | 10:16am | Report comment
Let us not forget that with the three rounds of byes, we had an unusual situation yesterday where there were no games played in Melbourne (there are two today), and the only two games yesterday were the two new clubs hosting matches.
The combined attendance was less than 18k which is disappointing by AFL standards, no doubt.
The Suns match drew 10,120, it’s on the low side, maybe even the lowest home attendance the Suns have drawn at Metricon, but then again we’re talking about a team that has never won a game at home.
Once the Suns manage to win even 5 or 6 home games per season, which aint’ asking a lot, I think we can expect their home game attendances to bounce back up to 14k to 15k very, very quickly – so no probs with the suns at all on that front.
The key thing amongst footy pundits at the moment is the overwhelming belief that the giants have done much better than the suns in building up their squads – we’ll know the truth of that next season, when the young Giants experience their own collective second-year blues.
Anyway, both teams got within 12 points yesterday, both were in the game till close to the end, both actually scored more goals than their opponents – so a great day of footy all round for the two expansion clubs.
11:39am
Cameron said | 11:39am | Report comment
Yes I have noticed alst of people mentioning the second year blues lately, almost as though it is some sort of right of passage for the new, young sides to go through. Personally I don;t quite understand why the Suns just could not have gone upwards upon a trajectory of improvement rather than go backwards, which they have seemed to heave done in 2012.
The scorelines for the games yesterday were a little deceptive, as Richmond had alot more of the ball in their forward half, and should really have won by about 10 goals if they had kicked straight. Ditto North. Too much inaccurate kicking from them made the Suns look good.
1:40pm
TW said | 1:40pm | Report comment
The crowd figure given is a little below what the GWS CEO David Matthews predicted – 8000 – He is on the ground so as to speak and should know the lie of the land by now.
The club will be getting feedback from their development guys and everybody else circulating in that area.
9:23am
The Cattery said | 9:23am | Report comment
It’s amazing.
GWS get a modest 7k in driving rain, nothing to write home about it, a pretty low number by AFL standards, but League and soccer trolls come on here insisting the number is a fabrication!
Why should they care one way or the other?
Are they really more worried about their own pathetic crowds?
More worried that the Giants will outlive the Knights, Fury and GCU (guaranteed).
Can they see the writing on the wall?
Deep, deep down inside, they know where this clubs will be in 30 years?
Does it worry them? ON available evidence – you’d have to say it worries them heaps.
There’s an expression I remember hearing once: Smell the Fear.
9:31am
MV Dave said | 9:31am | Report comment
No need to go over the top Cattery. Sokkah fans have had to cop it from AFL fans for years about poor attendances at HAL etc. Nice to be able to give some back from time to time…personally couldn’t care less whether the Giants thrive or die. But it is fun to read AFL cheerleaders desperately trying to put positive spin on these poor turn outs.
9:48am
The Cattery said | 9:48am | Report comment
No one’s trying to do anything – the concern and fear is coming from one direction.
At least we can all sit back and conclude that the Giants managed to survive a bit longer than the Sydney Rovers.
9:52am
Titus said | 9:52am | Report comment
Without the AFL’s backing the GWS would be shutting up shop already and in fact would never have got off the ground.
They will lose substantial amounts of money, perhaps other AFL clubs and regions will start to question why.
9:57am
The Cattery said | 9:57am | Report comment
Titus
As I said, prior to entering the AFL the Giants signed up 12,100 foundation members at $50 a pop, and Sydney Rovers couldn’t manage to sign one up.
And who is funding the first year of operating costs of the new soccer team? the Commonwealth Government to the tune of $4 million.
10:05am
Titus said | 10:05am | Report comment
TC–instead of shooting off membership numbers and TV dollars come up, have a drive around and see for yourself.
10:10am
The Cattery said | 10:10am | Report comment
But we’re talking about a professional football club in a professional league – and it’s the metrics with dollar signs in front of them that matter the most – everything else is fluff.
If the AFL has developed a business model that allows it to place a second team in Sydney and help build it over many decades – then so be it.
I don’t see what the point is in whinging about what is in essence a very successful business model.
10:19am
Titus said | 10:19am | Report comment
I have no doubt that the AFL is a more professional league than the a-league and while I have nothing against GWS I am happy to see the AFL get a dose of reality with its over inflated sense of self importance.
10:24am
The Cattery said | 10:24am | Report comment
Titus
you’re assuming that the AFL would be shocked by the giants getting sub 10k crowds – I suspect they would have expected it a few times this season.
3:40pm
Brewski said | 3:40pm | Report comment
What !!, so now your concerned about what other AFL clubs etc think about the money spent ….. how caring of you !.
The AFL exists to promote and grow Australian football and the AFL competition, the money is the football communitys to spend.
Your care factor should be zero, but for some weirdo reason it’s not …… go away troll.
4:19pm
Titus said | 4:19pm | Report comment
My care factor IS zero but if the FFA put all its resources into a region that had no interest in Football at the expense of regions that did, then I would question them.
4:34pm
Brewski said | 4:34pm | Report comment
As you have shown over many many posts on here, your care factor is not zero, and your fear factor is not either.
It is not out of CONCERN that you question where, when, why, who and how the AFL do anything, like you would question the FFA, therefore there is only one logical motive behind your reasoning.
5:16pm
Titus said | 5:16pm | Report comment
Brewski–if someone tells me the sky is red I am going to question them, it doesn’t particularly mean I care.
The AFL is a well resourced propaganda machine, have a look at the articles above about its global reach for an example, and then consider that the National Football team playing a World Cup qualifier barely rates a mention.
I make no apoligies in questioning all forms of propaganda.
5:28pm
The Cattery said | 5:28pm | Report comment
Those articles aren’t about global reach – they are about finding new sources of playing talent – what’s wrong with that?
It’s Rugby League that makes the big claims about global reach.
8:45pm
Brewski said | 8:45pm | Report comment
Titus said “I make no apoligies in questioning all forms of propaganda”.
Then perhaps you should question yourself !.
I guess it’s the AFL’s fault that not many people are interested in soccer, is that what you are saying ?.
9:48am
Titus said | 9:48am | Report comment
It’s not fear TC it’s reassurance.
9:51am
The Cattery said | 9:51am | Report comment
Titus
I’d wait a good 20 years before feeling completely reassured. But below the surface – it’s a classic case of “smell the fear”.
At the end of the day – it’s still up to the new soccer club to reach 10,000 members – they might do it, then again, they might not.
Last year the newly formed Giants signed up 12,100 foundation members at $50 a pop – that’s no big deal – but let’s be honest, the Sydney rovers weren’t able to sign up a single foundation member.
9:55am
Cameron said | 9:55am | Report comment
Oh come on Cattery tellling jibers that support other codes to “smell the fear” is a little over the top. Even as a mainly AFL supporter, I can appreciate other sports, as I know you do too, without being over the top like you have just posted.
Anyway. I don’t think the fear you are refferring to implies they are fearful of the Giants taking away support of their respective sports, but they are reflecting a cynicism about this new side or sides if we throw the suns into the mix, and express this cynisism by targeting the new clubs’ weak points.
As for your 30 years point, they may or may not have the level of Swans support in Sydney. The Swans for a large part have built their supporter base over the last 15 years not just on consistant on field success, but also a reputation for good character – you rarely hear of any questionable behaviour eminating out of the Swans. I suspect the Giants will need to build a similar reputation to experience that support level. And with that, the Swans certainly havn’t taken over or dominate the Sydney sporting landscape, certainly nothing that would be indicitaive of your smell the fear comment if the Giants were to garner their level of support.
10:02am
The Cattery said | 10:02am | Report comment
Cameron
YOu are being far too kind.
New clubs are formed in all sorts of sports, all the time, soccer, basketball, baseball, whatever – and no one says boo about it – most have minimal support and will be lucky to see the decade out – but no one comes down on them at all – we just don’t care one way or the other.
But GWS? well, we are talking about a very special team there – that’s for sure!!
It’s a classic case of smell the fear.
11:25am
Cameron said | 11:25am | Report comment
Cattery
Point taken. Yes in Australia when do mainly seem to be fixated AFL-NRL “were bigger and better than them” jibes because the two sports are embedded in olden day intercolonial rivalry, which seems to be well and truly alive today. Obsession with the outcomes of upcoming tv rights deals is another example of this.
However I’m sure there will be cynism about the new NRL club in Perth when that eventually happens, and certainly a second NRL club in Melbourne if that ever happens, and AFL supporters will be called “trolls” and be accussed of “smelling the fear” also when making what will be percieved by NRL keyboard warriors as unfair jibes about these new clubs.
And i’m sure many AFL and NRL fans will be on the football tab, banging away at the new West Sydney A-League club. it will recieve just as much cynism from non soccer fans as GWS have from trolls from other codes
3:44pm
Brewski said | 3:44pm | Report comment
I agree, a new cycling club, basketball club, soccer club etc is formed and i could not give a flying fig, or i just think, does not interest me, but good luck to them , but a new AFL club is formed and the haters all foam at the mouth.
Seriously get a life.
3:48pm
MV Dave said | 3:48pm | Report comment
Wow…a touchy lot the AFL cheerleaders when their hubris is challenged.
3:56pm
The_Wookie said | 3:56pm | Report comment
hubris? we’ve known that its a 20 year plan. It was when the AFL announced it, its like a 19 year plan now. We know the history of the Swans in the area, and nobody expected the crowds to blow people away. However you guys go on your little crusade every time a GWS article pops up,,,
4:00pm
Brewski said | 4:00pm | Report comment
Your foam a lot, and if truth be known, it’s your time to waste talking about the AFL, i am happy to spend all day talking about a sport i like.
Anything else ?.
5:13pm
The Cattery said | 5:13pm | Report comment
This is the thing – no new club has ever attracted the discussion that GWS has attracted – none – and the AFL thanks you all!!
9:56am
The_Wookie said | 9:56am | Report comment
Oh look this thread mentions GWS. Queue the trolls.
10:36am
SUPREMO said | 10:36am | Report comment
Stop going on about trolls. You guys have it in for us so take a chill pill and take some medicine.
1:33pm
The_Wookie said | 1:33pm | Report comment
I dont have it in for anyone.
1:54pm
The Cattery said | 1:54pm | Report comment
Paranoid much.
I would think that this represents the first time a live match blog has been trolled – and it had to be a GWS game of course.
10:35am
SUPREMO said | 10:35am | Report comment
Stop going on about our pathetic crowd numbers when your crowd numbers are just as pathetic.
1:48pm
The_Wookie said | 1:48pm | Report comment
Well I didnt but this is comparable to us basing our whole idea of the Aleagues crowds on GCUs poor attendance. We dont do that..well at least I dont.
On the other hand if you really want to push the issue I can point to the fact that its only round 12 in the AFL, and the aggregate attendance is over 3.16 million, at an average of 32,949. Let me offer you a comparison – this is almost as much as the 2012 NRL season to date(1.69 million @ 16.4k ave) and the entire last A-league season (1.53 million @10.9k ave) combined.
GWS 2012 Average – 14,939
Gold Coast 2012 Average – 13,296
Lets no dwell too much then on the following clubs:
(NRL clubs 2012 season to date, HAL 2011-2012 Season)
Canberra Raiders (NRL) – 10,241
Gold Coast Titans (NRL) – 12,467
Penrith Panthers (NRL) – 11,331
Sydney Roosters (NRL) – 11,418
Newcastle Jets (HAL) – 12,117
Sydney FC (HAL) – 11,861
CC Mariners (HAL) – 9,505
Melbourne Heart (HAL) – 9,082
Perth Glory (HAL) – 8,972
Adelaide United (HAL) – 8,829
Wellington (HAL) – 8,780
Gold Coast Untied (HAL) – 3,438
I could have saved some time and wrote every HAL club except Victory and Roar I suppose. So Half the NRL and most of the HAL is doomed I suppose on your own judgements. Bear in mind that every single one of the clubs listed above is older than GWS and Heart aside (IIRC), older than the Gold Coast.
Honourable Mentions to: Cronulla (13,859), Manly (13,826), Melbourne (14,020) who fall between the averages of Gold Coast and GWS.
2:20pm
The Cattery said | 2:20pm | Report comment
I hadn’t realised NRL crowds were so pathetic – and we’re talking about some long lived teams there, they’ve been around.
And yet we have League trolls coming on here worrying about our two newest teams, both with crowds over 13K?
Doesn’t make much sense.
And that’s before we even get to the soccer trolls whose crowds are even worse.
3:36pm
Brick Tamlin of the Pants Party said | 3:36pm | Report comment
Maybe we need to give A-League clubs time cattery,your quite quick to point out GWS needs 20-30 years to grow.A-League crowds are pretty impressive when you think about it.7 year old clubs,minimal media attention and i think we can honest its not the Premier League(the NRL and AFL’s leagues are the pinnacle of their respected sports).I’ll be happy when all A-League clubs are averaging 15-20,000 which is a possibility as the standard improves which it has been season to season.
3:46pm
Cameron said | 3:46pm | Report comment
Yes I agree that’s quite possible when the FFA simply decides to cut it’s start up clubs that get bad crowds off at neck and not stick it out to try and build their supporter base.
If the AFL did the same thing their average crowds would be fantastic!
So it seems as though the FFA go out of it’s way to artifically boost it’s average crowds, which we will no doubt see next year with those embarrassing clubs like GCU and NQF out of the way.
It’s like trying to solve the problem of unemployment. How do you boost employment figures? Easy. Just shoot the unemployed!
4:01pm
The_Wookie said | 4:01pm | Report comment
OF course you give them time.
Its worth noting that the cost of running an NRL team is much less than an AFL club, and the cost of running an Aleague team should in theory be even less, so crowds and memberships dont have to play as big a part in the operations of these clubs.
2:35pm
MV Dave said | 2:35pm | Report comment
At this stage last season (101 games) the AFL had over 3.60m attendees for an ave of over 36,000 per game.
In 2012 the first 100 games have drawn 3.25m attendees for an ave of 32,500.
So in half a season the AFL have lost over 300,000 attendees or nearly 10% and don’t forget last year was 6% down in ave on the year before ( at seasons end).
Is it possible they could lose 600,000 attendees by the end of the season? In fact it is possible they will play 11more games this season and still draw a smaller aggregate than last season should this situation continue.
BTW update on the Giants att ave now down to just over 13,000 and GC down to 12,500.
3:34pm
The Cattery said | 3:34pm | Report comment
Yeh – but still miles ahead of most A-League attendances – miles ahead.
3:39pm
Cameron said | 3:39pm | Report comment
Is it possible the AFL has had record TV ratings this year?
Is possible that all 9 games are live on pay TV and crowds have dropped as a result as they have invested their hard earned on subscriptions to watch these games?
Is it possible that this is reflected in the MASSIVE INCREASE this year in pay TV subscriptions?
3:50pm
The_Wookie said | 3:50pm | Report comment
you mean the 10 million extra foxtel viewers this year? nah. cant be it.
3:55pm
Brewski said | 3:55pm | Report comment
Maybe, SCG construction, Kardinia Park contstruction, GC bad form, GWS new small team combined with bad weather as per the Swans, etc.
THe AFL had pretty well peaked as far as crowd averages go, they have expanded the game in new areas and it will take years to build up back to that average if ever.
Metricon, Skoda, Manuka, and ground in Tassie (?) all hold less than the AFL crowd average.
Give it time and it will build back up.
The reality is though for the crowd average to go back up, the Big Melbourne 4 and WCE and Crows must have good years
3:48pm
The_Wookie said | 3:48pm | Report comment
The first 11 rounds of last season produced 3,084,581. The first 11 rounds of 2012 have prodiced 3,163,135. Crowds are up 59,000 on last seasons aggregate. The average at the end of round 11, 2011 was 34,176. The average at the end of round 11, 2012 is down to 32.7k. These are things we know.
Your figures end in round 14 in 2011, and its disengenous to use number of games played. I know of no other statistifcal reference that doesnt judge this by round or season. If we get to round 14 and the aggregate is down on last year you may have a point. Its not.
3:55pm
MV Dave said | 3:55pm | Report comment
Apologies for using the same number of games for comparison…l thought that was the point when COMPARING!
BTW even using your method aggregate crowds will be down after this current round of AFL, despite more games having been played.
3:59pm
The_Wookie said | 3:59pm | Report comment
see we KNEW and exepcted the game averages to be down – its happened to everyone when a new team is introduced. We knew there would be a certain amount of cannibilising of opposition support in NSW and QLD, and this was budgeted for by the AFL.
Yes the aggregate may well be down at the end of this round – bearing in mind this is the second of three rounds in a row that will feature only 6 games instead of 9 due to the mass byes being staged by 6 teams a round.
2:44pm
aflhype said | 2:44pm | Report comment
GWS last 4 games without the hyped up first “Derby” game (by the way where did those 30,000 fans go from the first game? only took one game for 30,000 of them to move on) and the GWS average is 8,747 placing them just below Wellington. Now lets do it with the all important $$$$ signs you know the amount the TV deal, FTA coverage and marketing budget compared to Wellington Phoniex?
3:33pm
Cameron said | 3:33pm | Report comment
I’ve got a better idea.
Let’s see what GWS averages after they have had as many season’s as Wellington have had in the A League and comapre then
3:33pm
The Cattery said | 3:33pm | Report comment
They all count mate.
1:56pm
The Cattery said | 1:56pm | Report comment
SUPREMO
and on top of Wookie’s excellent analysis, let us not forget the small matter of 690,000 AFL memberships, more than double the total memberships of all other sports combined.
8:45pm
Raf Nadir said | 8:45pm | Report comment
And why can’t you admit Cat that 7K is a disappointing crowd for GWS and for the AFL?
Why can’t anyone in AFL land accept that?
7:26am
Norm said | 7:26am | Report comment
Very impressed with Patton. Loved his 1st goal & the reaction
8:51pm
shirtfront said | 8:51pm | Report comment
7,000. Not a bad crowd for a bunch of kids in a non-afl market, raining, cold etc.
Panthers and Giants are neck and neck crowd wise already. Ha!
8:57pm
The Cattery said | 8:57pm | Report comment
It’s a decent start.
9:11pm
shirtfront said | 9:11pm | Report comment
Give it 20 – 30 years. Reminds me of the swan’s dark early days.
8:55am
The Cattery said | 8:55am | Report comment
Once Patton starts dragging down 10+ contested marks per game, there will be no spare tickets in the house.
7:26am
Cman said | 7:26am | Report comment
I didn’t know there were 7000 Richman fan in Sydney. Great crowd AFL. I guess you can’t brag about the great crowds you pull any more. embarrassment!!!
8:46am
Cameron said | 8:46am | Report comment
What was more embarrassing was the 5000 crowd that showed up for the Panthers v Warriors game last Monday in similar conditions – In Rugby League heartland.
And we can’t brag about how AFL average crowds still DOUBLE NRL average crowds just because of a low turnout for ONE game?
8:53am
The Cattery said | 8:53am | Report comment
Cman
appreciate the comment.
The Giants have 9,517 members in their first year – please feel free to put up all the Sydney NRL club memberships.
It’s only a small part of the AFL’s 690,000 memberships – but it’s a start.
A club for the people of Greater Western Sydney, which is fantastic. Afterall, why shouldn’t the people of Greater Western Sydney enjoy the benefits available to the rest of Australia?
8:14pm
The Cattery said | 8:14pm | Report comment
I appreciate everyone’s input, but the stadium provides the attendance figures.
If there is one sport that doesn’t need to make up attendance figures – believe me – the AFL is it.
9:07am
MV Dave said | 9:07am | Report comment
Said like a true AFL cheerleader. It must be bewildering for you that ‘The Game That Made Australia’ generates so little enthusiasm in WS and GC. Anyway probably fairer to call the match attendance as a gathering more so than a crowd.
From the TV pictures both stated attendances looked grossly inflated.
9:16am
The Cattery said | 9:16am | Report comment
Dave
You’re wrong, the figure looks fine.
There are two competitions that focus on upping their numbers – I’m sure you know who they are – and if there is one league that doesn’t have to exaggerate its numbers – it’s the AFL!!
The giants currently have 9,517 members, not big, but a decent start.
Good luck to the new soccer team out there – if they can generate 10,000 members in their first year, that would be terrific.
6:43pm
chad ravlich said | 6:43pm | Report comment
A CROWD OF SEVEN THOUSAND – ONLY IF THE OFFICIALS MULTIFIED BY TWO
6:34pm
waterboy said | 6:34pm | Report comment
If that stadium was a quarter full I’ll eat my hat
5:37pm
The Cattery said | 5:37pm | Report comment
Just got the Official attendance from the AFL site: 7,358
pretty good for such deplorable conditions today.
6:41pm
The Cattery said | 6:41pm | Report comment
Actually Fox has just put the figure up as 7,538 – so not sure which one is right, would probably go for the AFL figure for the moment.
4:58pm
The Cattery said | 4:58pm | Report comment
An important point for the tiges, they have fallen in with a 12 pt win, having missed out on the % booster their rivals have been scoring against the Giants, usually with 60 to 72 point wins.
4:56pm
The Cattery said | 4:56pm | Report comment
Damian Hardwick a relieved coach, the tigers’ season would have been shot if they had dropped this game
4:55pm
The Cattery said | 4:55pm | Report comment
In very, very wet conditions, the big highlights for the Giants were:
1. a four quarter effort, getting to within 6 pts mid way through the final term
2. very accurate goal kicking
3. the contested marks from the two young key position forwards: Cameron and Patton.
4:53pm
The Cattery said | 4:53pm | Report comment
Goals: Connors kicked three valuable final quarter goals when the Giants had worked their way to within 6 pts.
Cameron scored 3 goals, a couple from some strong contested marks, and Jumping Jack had 3.
Deledio led the disposals with 31
Greene was best for the Giants with 24.
Cornes and Davis had 8 and 7 marks, and they were instrumental in keeping Richmond at bay for long periods.
McDonald and Shiel had 9 tackles.
Maric was the best ruckman on the ground.
4:51pm
The Cattery said | 4:51pm | Report comment
FT
GWS 12.2 (74) Rich 11.20 (86)
Richmond win by 12 points. They led all day and were clearly the better team, leading the clearances, inside 50s and were better with the ball around the ground, but as we can see from the scoreboard, they weren’t crash hot in front of goal.
It has to be said, I can’t remember too many gimmes being missed, it was more a case of the Giants defence limiting marks inside 50m and forcing the tiges to snap quickly out of packs and from distance.
At the other end Cameron and Patton took some terrific contested marks to help set up opportunities close to goal, Shiel was on the end of a couple of running goals, and all round the conversion from the angle and from distance from set shots was spot on for the giants.
The Giants kept themselves in the game with accurate goal kicking, a really good effort in such wet conditions, and with tackling pressure, leading the Tigers in tackles 87 to 69.
4:45pm
The Cattery said | 4:45pm | Report comment
Q4
1 min to go
GWS 12.2 Rich 11.20
great tackle on Cotchin, Ward takes a bounce, long kick, Palmer with the mark, under pressure, he’s close in, but a bit of an angle, and he gets it!
4:43pm
The Cattery said | 4:43pm | Report comment
Q4
2 min to go
GWS 11.2 Rich 11.20
so Richmond have steadied here, they were challenged by the Giants, and have got two quick ones to settle the matter with 2 min left on clock
4:42pm
The Cattery said | 4:42pm | Report comment
Q4
2 min to go
GWS 11.2 Rich 11.20
so back to a 2 goal lead to tiges, and now Nahas has spotted up Connors, only 40m out, 2nd goal in a minute for Connors
4:41pm
The Cattery said | 4:41pm | Report comment
Q4
3 min to go
GWS 11.2 Rich 10.20
Ward breaks free, but kicks to a dangerous spot, tiges greak free, Riewoldt handballs to free man in the goal square, and that might be the sealer
4:39pm
The Cattery said | 4:39pm | Report comment
Q4
4 min to go
GWS 11.2 Rich 9.20
so it’s only a 7 point lead to the tiges, Ward with long kick from centre bounce, and scrounges an important behind
4:38pm
The Cattery said | 4:38pm | Report comment
Q4
5 min to go
GWS 11.1 Rich 9.20
13 pt lead to Richmond, time running out for Giants, but if they can get another one on the board, they are in it
Cameron hit high, so he has the free, puts into 50m,
Schulz with the mark, on 45m, the boy from Culcairn, it would take a pretty good kick, he gets it!!
the Giants have kicked some great goals today!!
4:36pm
The Cattery said | 4:36pm | Report comment
Q4
6 min to go
GWS 10.1 Rich 9.20
good tackle on Nahas from Schulz, but pressue on Giants, tiges camped in their fwd 50 at moment
4:35pm
The Cattery said | 4:35pm | Report comment
Q4
7 min to go
GWS 10.1 Rich 9.20
Edwards and KIng looking injured, Tuck earns free at top of 50m, and just misses
4:34pm
The Cattery said | 4:34pm | Report comment
Q4
8 min to go
GWS 10.1 Rich 9.18
over the top, and Mohr runs it over for another behind
4:34pm
The Cattery said | 4:34pm | Report comment
Q4
8 min to go
GWS 10.1 Rich 9.18
turnover and Martin shoots from 50m and misses
Giants still with big lead with tackles
4:33pm
The Cattery said | 4:33pm | Report comment
Q4
9 min to go
GWS 10.1 Rich 9.17
another strong Cornes mark, but he coughs it up with poor kick
Nahas gets clear, big chance – misses!!
4:32pm
The Cattery said | 4:32pm | Report comment
Q4
10 min to go
GWS 10.1 Rich 9.16
good hands for Giants on HBF to clear, Patton can’t hold it under heavy attention
4:31pm
The Cattery said | 4:31pm | Report comment
Q4
11 min to go
GWS 10.1 Rich 9.16
Conca puts it top top of 50, Greene cops a high one, Patton with fly, can’t hold it this time
4:29pm
The Cattery said | 4:29pm | Report comment
Q4
12 min to go
GWS 10.1 Rich 9.16
Cornes does well on last line of defence, his game has been very important
4:28pm
The Cattery said | 4:28pm | Report comment
Q4
13 min to go
GWS 10.1 Rich 9.16
long bomb from Jackson, puts tiges deep into attack, cotchin caught, over the line for throw in
4:26pm
The Cattery said | 4:26pm | Report comment
Q4
14 min to go
GWS 10.1 Rich 9.16
Exciting stuff here, Giants with a bit of momentum, trailing by 9 pts, Giants fighting hard, they have kicked so accurately to stay in the game
both subs now used up
4:25pm
The Cattery said | 4:25pm | Report comment
Q4
14 min to go
GWS 10.1 Rich 9.16
good pressure forces tigers to kick out on the full, so Giants with free jsut outside of fwd 50, and Cameron with the big grab! tight angle, and he turns it in!!
4:24pm
The Cattery said | 4:24pm | Report comment
Q4
15 min to go
GWS 9.1 Rich 9.16
so Giants have kicked a very accurate 9.1 to stay within 15 pts of Richmond 6 min into final quarter, very good goal kicking under such wet conditions
4:23pm
The Cattery said | 4:23pm | Report comment
Q4
17 min to go
GWS 9.1 Rich 9.16
Cameron witih mark, spots up a team mate, and he goes short, and Greene earns the free when he had his arms chopped, tight angle, beautiful kick! splits the sticks!!
4:21pm
The Cattery said | 4:21pm | Report comment
Q4
17 min to go
GWS 8.1 Rich 9.16
Miller catches Davis and earns the free, outer wing, Deledio, Martin, long kick, Riewoldt can’t hold it, Edwards with snap out of the pack, just rolls across the face
4:19pm
The Cattery said | 4:19pm | Report comment
Q4
18 min to go
GWS 8.1 Rich 9.15
Grigg with the first mark inside 50 for the quarter, but he misses
4:18pm
The Cattery said | 4:18pm | Report comment
Q4
19 min to go
GWS 8.1 Rich 9.14
we’re back for the final term
4:14pm
The Cattery said | 4:14pm | Report comment
3/4 time
GWS 8.1 (49) Rich 9.14 (68)
Ward running through the middle, spots up Cameron over the top, siren goes, so he can take his time here, it’s about 30m out, gets it!
That is such an important goal for the Giants, after the siren, go into the final break with a bit of momentum after Richmond had scored 25 pts unanswered.
So it’s a 19 pt lead to Richmond, with the conditions as they are, that should be enough to guarantee the win, but it’s about the Giants playing 4 quarters against good opposition, and that’s what they will be aiming to do in the final quarter.
4:10pm
The Cattery said | 4:10pm | Report comment
Q3
1 min to go
GWS 7.1 Rich 9.14
last 15 min, Giants have struggled to maintain possession
Jackson with a long snap, just misses
4:09pm
The Cattery said | 4:09pm | Report comment
Q3
1 min to go
GWS 7.1 Rich 9.13
that’s now a four goal lead to the tiges, biggest margin of the game
Cotchin with the clearance, Richmond showing cleaner hands here,
Nahas caught with the footy, relieving free kick
4:08pm
The Cattery said | 4:08pm | Report comment
Q3
2 min to go
GWS 7.1 Rich 9.13
Connors over the top, snaps, gets it!
4:07pm
The Cattery said | 4:07pm | Report comment
Q3
2 min to go
GWS 7.1 Rich 8.13
Edwards with free now, out wide, from just outside 50m, would take a very, very good kick, and its’ not, just sneaks in for a point
4:06pm
The Cattery said | 4:06pm | Report comment
Q3
3 min to go
GWS 7.1 Rich 8.12
still raining here, been raining all day, almost looks like a night game, but the standard has been surprisingly good
4:05pm
The Cattery said | 4:05pm | Report comment
Q3
4 min to go
GWS 7.1 Rich 8.12
so Richmond have settled here, now back to a 17 point lead,
4:04pm
The Cattery said | 4:04pm | Report comment
Q3
5 min to go
GWS 7.1 Rich 8.12
Cornes in that sweeping role, and just goes for distance, and marks it again, out wide to Darling, but he gives it up too easily
Riewoldt with the dribble kcik from the boundary, and gets it!
4:03pm
The Cattery said | 4:03pm | Report comment
Q3
5 min to go
GWS 7.1 Rich 7.12
Martin shoots from outside 50m and just misses
4:02pm
The Cattery said | 4:02pm | Report comment
Q3
6 min to go
GWS 7.1 Rich 7.11
Giants ran the footy through the middle with handball, but in the end, it was a classic case of one too many
4:01pm
The Cattery said | 4:01pm | Report comment
Q3
7 min to go
GWS 7.1 Rich 7.11
Ellis did well to bounce the footy then, probably the first bounce I’ve seen today, it came back to him
4:00pm
The Cattery said | 4:00pm | Report comment
Q3
8 min to go
GWS 7.1 Rich 7.11
Spoil on Patton, Whiley gets to drop of it but Newman corrals him to the boundary and earns the free
now its Cameron with mark outside 50,
3:59pm
The Cattery said | 3:59pm | Report comment
Q3
9 min to go
GWS 7.1 Rich 7.11
pack forms on centre-wing position, neither side has been able to get too far clear from this spot for a couple of minutes, playing kick to kick at the moment
3:58pm
The Cattery said | 3:58pm | Report comment
Q3
9 min to go
GWS 7.1 Rich 7.11
This time it’s Griffiths with mark against Patton, did well
3:57pm
The Cattery said | 3:57pm | Report comment
Q3
10 min to go
GWS 7.1 Rich 7.11
Richmond now back in control, but they are not hurting the Giants on the board
Mohr wins free when Riewoldt slides in feet first
Davis marks just inside the boundary,
Shiel played on, Greene caught with it
3:55pm
The Cattery said | 3:55pm | Report comment
Q3
11 min to go
GWS 7.1 Rich 7.11
Edwards again from the stoppage, quick snap, misses, 10 pt lead to tiges
3:55pm
The Cattery said | 3:55pm | Report comment
Q3
12 min to go
GWS 7.1 Rich 7.10
cornes with strong mark, finds Shiel, but shanks it terribly, lets richmond in, Nahas, can’t find Jack, throw in
3:54pm
The Cattery said | 3:54pm | Report comment
Q3
13 min to go
GWS 7.1 Rich 7.10
so after opening flurry of goals from Giants, Richmonds has settled down, held it in their forward line, and finally broken through for a goal to take the lead,
Conca from 55m, to top of square, Nahas witih snap, Riewoldt flies, misses, Edwards at bottom of pack, quick snap, just misses
3:52pm
The Cattery said | 3:52pm | Report comment
Q3
14 min to go
GWS 7.1 Rich 7.8
Jackson again from the stoppage, long snap, across the face,
and from throw in Cornes collects loose ball, but fends off Riewoldt to the face and Jack will win the free, should be an easy one, it is, 20m dead in front
3:50pm
The Cattery said | 3:50pm | Report comment
Q3
14 min to go
GWS 7.1 Rich 6.8
Deledio puts the ball into the hot spot, throw in, from stoppage, Jackson got the quick shot on goal, and just misses
3:49pm
The Cattery said | 3:49pm | Report comment
Q3
14 min to go
GWS 7.1 Rich 6.7
Friendly fire, Jake King has been collected by Miller
3:48pm
The Cattery said | 3:48pm | Report comment
Q3
15 min to go
GWS 7.1 Rich 6.7
Scores level!!
Giants are well and truly in this – as I said in the write up – Richmond lost to the Suns last year
3:47pm
The Cattery said | 3:47pm | Report comment
Q3
16 min to go
GWS 7.1 Rich 6.7
Cameron turns out of trouble, puts it forward into space, the race is on, Brogan shephers, Shiel collects, drills it!!
3:46pm
The Cattery said | 3:46pm | Report comment
Q3
16 min to go
GWS 6.1 Rich 6.7
Deledio with quick snap from stoppage, hits the behind post
so throw in, deep in tiger fwd line, Davis caught, King to Riewoldt – smothered! Scully clears
3:45pm
The Cattery said | 3:45pm | Report comment
Q3
17 min to go
GWS 6.1 Rich 6.7
Echoes of the start of the previous quarter here with the Giants scoring the first goal early on
and Ward gets the take away, so good signs here for the giants, can they stay with Richmond well into the 3rd quarter?
3:43pm
The Cattery said | 3:43pm | Report comment
Q3
18 min to go
GWS 6.1 Rich 6.7
Cornes clears to Davis, and he finds PHillips, and he earns the 50m!!
puts it through!!
3:42pm
The Cattery said | 3:42pm | Report comment
Q3
19 min to go
GWS 5.1 Rich 6.7
Giants with first take away of the 2nd half, but tiges with numbers
Shiel, Ward finds Patton, goes inside to Greene – he’s the kid that looks like he’s 12 years old
he finds Whiley, out wide, Cameron can’t mark, Scully to Bugg to Whiley, Cotchin clears
3:40pm
The Cattery said | 3:40pm | Report comment
GWS 5.1 Rich 6.7
Getting ready to start 3rd quarter.
Belinda Patton says that Jonathon was keen to go to GWS
3:38pm
The Cattery said | 3:38pm | Report comment
Belinda Patton getting interviewed, that’s the General’s mum, she’s pleased with how he’s going.
3:33pm
The Cattery said | 3:33pm | Report comment
It’s been raining the whole game, but it has remained quite entertaining nevertheless
3:32pm
The Cattery said | 3:32pm | Report comment
Scully has most disposals for the Giants with 14.
3:31pm
The Cattery said | 3:31pm | Report comment
Of course the big story of that first half is Jonathon Patton – the General – number one draft pick on debut – 3 contested marks in atrocious conditions, one goal, one assist, and has shown enough to suggest we were right to be excited.
Him and Cameron doing well as the two talls up forward, both very young.
3:29pm
The Cattery said | 3:29pm | Report comment
Connors with 5 marks
Bugg and Martin have the most tackles, 6 apiece
3:28pm
The Cattery said | 3:28pm | Report comment
Tuck with the most disposals, 9 kicks, 9 handballs,
Deledio with 12 kicks
3:28pm
The Cattery said | 3:28pm | Report comment
Edwards with two goals for the tiges, highest goal kicker so far.
3:27pm
The Cattery said | 3:27pm | Report comment
Fox currently showing a montage of photos from the first half of the season, and there are some absolute rippers there – it’s an emotional game.
3:25pm
The Cattery said | 3:25pm | Report comment
HT
GWS 5.1 (31) Rich 6.7 (43)
Richmond goes into the half time break with a 12pt lead, but the Giants actually outscored Richmond that quarter, helped along with two goals in the opening minute of the 2nd quarter.
Richmond quickly got back on top, with Deledio and Tuck dominating in the middle of the park, they ensured that they stayed camped in their forward 50, but crucially, the Giants defenders were ensuring there were no easy marks inside 50, and the tiges earned themselves only two goals in that period.
GWS responded with one of the best passages of play when Cornes and Ward combined to bring the footy to the top of the 50m, Cameron was there to collect the loose footy, handballed to Shiel running by for a very important running goal to keep them in the game.
Maric is doing well for Richmond in the ruck.
For GWS, Greene and Palmer have made sure their opponents have not had easy kicks, while Cameron and Patton have done well to get themselves 5 contested marks, a fantastic effort under the conditions.
3:19pm
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Q2
1 min to go
GWS 5.1 Rich 6.7
Giants trouble clearing it, throw in Rich fwd 50, Cotchin lurking, Palmer kicks clear
3:18pm
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1 min to go
GWS 5.1 Rich 6.7
Deledio keeps it in, snaps from out wide, sneaks in for a behind
3:17pm
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Q2
1 min to go
GWS 5.1 Rich 6.6
Grigg earns free at stoppage, being held, into fwd 50, Davis can’t hold mark, forced over the line
3:16pm
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Q2
2 min to go
GWS 5.1 Rich 6.6
Really good team goal, when Ward was tackled, Cameron was there to collect the loose footy, eluded the tackle, thought about having a ping himself on his left, but handballed to Shiel on the inside and he ran in from 35m to drill it on his trust left
3:15pm
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Q2
2 min to go
GWS 5.1 Rich 6.6
Davis wins contest against King, centre-wing, looks for Brogan, Ward finds Cameron, to Shiel – goals on run!!
3:14pm
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Q2
3 min to go
GWS 4.1 Rich 6.6
Patton collects loose ball in middle, goes long, Cameron gives away the silly free chasing the footy back with Rance
3:13pm
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Q2
4 min to go
GWS 4.1 Rich 6.6
Richmond re-establish their quarter time lead, have been doing all the atacking last 10 min, and finally get their reward
3:12pm
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Q2
5 min to go
GWS 4.1 Rich 6.6
Giants still lead the tackle count 27 to 22, and this is where the Giants have been able to stay in the game
Cotchin with strong mark now, 20m, straight in front, should give tiges’ 6th goal, gets it
3:11pm
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Q2
5 min to go
GWS 4.1 Rich 5.6
GWS did well to maintain possession, and bring it into fwd 50 for ball up, cleared to wing, Shiel with tackle on Cotchin, another throw in
3:10pm
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Q2
6 min to go
GWS 4.1 Rich 5.6
tiges putting the pressure on here, haven’t made it count on the scoreboard, Newman holds the Giants up on outer wing, back into fwd 50, Davis couldn’t hold the mark, Cornes with defensive mark, good kick to Scully
3:08pm
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Q2
7 min to go
GWS 4.1 Rich 5.6
Deledio wins free from, puts it up to Reiwoldt, ball bobbling along in goal square, Cornes with kick of the ground, comes back, rushed
3:07pm
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Q2
7 min to go
GWS 4.1 Rich 5.5
Tuck breaks clear, fantastic spoil by Mohr on Riewoldt, had to reach across to get there
3:07pm
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Q2
8 min to go
GWS 4.1 Rich 5.5
Connors with mark, very wide, right on 50m arc, nice kick, just goes across the face,
3:06pm
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Q2
9 min to go
GWS 4.1 Rich 5.4
Cameron and Patton with 5 contested marks between them, in these conditions, that’s remarkable
GWS have only had 14 marks so far
3:05pm
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Q2
9 min to go
GWS 4.1 Rich 5.4
Jackson with footy outer side, his arm seems better, strong spoil by Cornes, gets it back from Palmer, sloppy handball, tiges win it back
3:04pm
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Q2
10 min to go
GWS 4.1 Rich 5.4
Cameron earns the free for high contact, did well, and Patton takes another contested mark!!
puts it to top of the square, tiges with numbers when it hits the deck
3:03pm
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Q2
11 min to go
GWS 4.1 Rich 5.4
Giants doing well to maintain the pressure, but when tiges get in the clear, they are using it very well,
Martin with the snap, behind
3:01pm
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Q2
12 min to go
GWS 4.1 Rich 5.3
Ellis clears for tiges, outer wing, looking for Nahas, but Power is sweating on him,
from throw in, Nahas in clear, spots up Jackson, tests out his arm, takes the mark cleanly, he’ll line up from 40m, just across the face for a behind
3:00pm
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Q2
13 min to go
GWS 4.1 Rich 5.2
good foward pressure from Giants, Edwards gets the snap away, behind
2:59pm
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13 min to go
GWS 4.0 Rich 5.2
both sides sharing the clearances 17 apiece
tiges with double the inside 50s, so GWS have done very, very well to stay in touch here
Giants are leading the tackles 30 to 25
2:58pm
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Q2
14 min to go
GWS 4.0 Rich 5.2
Scully with quick hands to Cornes, clear to near wing, Cameron with the fly, can’t hold it, throw up as pack forms
2:57pm
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Q2
15 min to go
GWS 4.0 Rich 5.2
Scully with quick hands from stoppage, but pumped back into tiges fwd 50, Jackson throws Ward over the line, Jackson may have injured his arm in that tackle
2:56pm
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Q2
16 min to go
GWS 4.0 Rich 5.2
Deledio a good long kick, and he rode that one home from around 52m
Giants get take away through Ward, and Cameron with mark, Giants keeping the footy on edge of their 50m now, tiges clear down the wing through Cotchin
2:54pm
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Q2
17 min to go
GWS 4.0 Rich 5.2
Brogan defending, Houli collects on wing, Richmond keeping the ball in their own half as the wake up from that horror start
Giants playing one on one, no plus-one defender at either end
Deledio wins free from stoppage, right on 50m, will need a good kick – it’s a very good kick!!
2:52pm
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Q2
18 min to go
GWS 4.0 Rich 4.2
what a start for the Giants!
2 goals in the opening minute of the 2nd quarter
it was good work by Patton to get the ball out after the marking contest, to little Greene and went one way, got round a player before snapping the Giant’s 4th goal
2:51pm
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Q2
19 min to go
GWS 4.0 Rich 4.2
So what a way to get a goal – before the bounce!
Mcdonald with a brave mark, hands to Scully, Patton with hands to Greene – snaps – goals!!
2:50pm
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Free to Cameron, before the bounce of the ball!!
So Cameron with free, 35m out – gets it – what a start for the Giants!
2:45pm
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GWS 2.0 (12) Rich 4.2 (26)
It was a slow start for both teams, but the tiges were camped in their fwd 50 for the first 10 minutes and eventually forced the goal through.
They followed up very quickly with two more and it was the case of Richmond adapting to the wet conditions and using the footy better.
But something very special happened around the 20min mark when Patton took two contested marks inside 45 seconds, with the second of them leading to the Giants’ second goal, as they evened up the contest in the second half of the quarter.
Given the conditions, a good game of footy, with the Giants having worked their way into it, but tiges deserve the lead.
2:42pm
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Q1
1 min to go
GWS 2.0 Rich 4.2
Cornes has been swung forward to pinch a goal, should have won the free, Newman clears, Connors with a flying shot, on the full
2:40pm
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Q1
2 min to go
GWS 2.0 Rich 4.2
not the prettiest kick you will ever see, but tiges have their 4th on the board, and the score probably reflects the game so far
Cameron now with a strong mark, but it’s Maric marking in front of Patton
2:39pm
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Q1
3 min to go
GWS 2.0 Rich 4.2
just when it looked like the tiges were about to pile on the goals, the Giants have stopped Richmond and got an important goal back
Edwards has earned the free for Richmond inside 50m, just squeezes it in with the ugliest shot at goal you will ever see
2:37pm
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Q1
3 min to go
GWS 2.0 Rich 3.2
well, this is what we all love to see from exciting young players, and already Patton hasn’t let us down
but it’s the tiges with the take awy, and King marks, within range, just misses
2:36pm
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Q1
4 min to go
GWS 2.0 Rich 3.1
and again!
it’s the General, another contested mark inside 45 seconds, on the chest this time, in the pack, lines up for goal – nails it!!
exciting stuff from the number one draft pick!!
2:35pm
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Q1
4 min to go
GWS 1.0 Rich 3.1
and there he is, the General – strong contested mark – clean, clean, clean hands!!!
2:34pm
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Q1
5 min to go
GWS 1.0 Rich 3.1
throw in, Giants fwd pocket, series of hands and Giants are forced backwards, Treloar caught over the ball
2:33pm
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Q1
6 min to go
GWS 1.0 Rich 3.1
Whiley again at the bottom of the pack, GWS coaches would be happy about that effort, it’s another throw in on Giants HFF outer side,
Cameron recovers first to get a long snap at goal, across the face, throw in, Whiley asked to go off with blood rule, he’s doing well on debut
2:32pm
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Q1
7 min to go
GWS 1.0 Rich 3.1
fantastic effort by Adams then to hold the ball up and stop tiges pumping it forward again
Giants now have it on outer HFF
2:31pm
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Q1
8 min to go
GWS 1.0 Rich 3.1
Cornes gives the free away on Conca, Davis and Greene combine to get it out,
Edwards in the middle, Giants have the numbers at HBF, good clearance, Whiley again, first gamer from Finley, Richmond defenders with hands to clear thorugh the middle, into fwd 50, Riewoldt can’t hold the mark
2:29pm
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Q1
9 min to go
GWS 1.0 Rich 3.1
King with clearance from centre bounce, Cornes takes a strong mark at CHB, and he finds Scully on outer wing, finds Palmer, better by Giants, falls to Brogan, Whiley hooks it back in, Smith can’t connect with snap, Treloar puts it back in, but King is able to tidy up
2:28pm
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Q1
10 min to go
GWS 1.0 Rich 3.1
tiges with take away, they lock it in, and it falls to Edwards who snaps along the ground for another to the tiges
2:26pm
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Q1
11 min to go
GWS 1.0 Rich 2.1
already it’s clear that tiges are using the ball better
Giants win the clearance, Palmer witih the Giants’ first mark of the day,
and McDonald wins the free at top of goal square, easy goal for the veteran, bit of luck goes the Giants’ way
2:25pm
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crowd looks about 4k. Seriously looks like it could threaten record books today. There has been a stack of advertisement for this game guys. I am in Parramatta. It is wet, but more drizzly than anything. It is not windy or especially cold. It is not threaqtening to bucket down. I think the AFL will be looking at Tasmania within 18 months.
8:16pm
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To quote Paul Kelly …. from little things, big things grow, ….. thanks for your interest. LOL.
2:24pm
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Q1
11 min to go
GWS 0.0 Rich 2.1
Jumping Jack with the snap – and it’s another one to the tiges
2:24pm
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Q1
12 min to go
GWS 0.0 Rich 1.1
Jackson opens with first goal of game, off the ground
inside 50s 11 to Richmond, none to GWS
2:21pm
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Q1
13 min to go
GWS 0.0 Rich 0.1
strong tackle by Power on Nahas, throws him over the boundary line,
2:20pm
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14 min to go
GWS 0.0 Rich 0.1
basically 90% of the game is being played inside the tiges fwd 50, Giants having a lot of trouble getting it out of there
2:18pm
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Q1
14 min to go
GWS 0.0 Rich 0.1
Cotchin to conca, running shot through 50m arc, just misses, first score of the day
2:18pm
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Q1
15 min to go
GWS 0.0 Rich 0.0
another throw in, two in a row next to tiges behind post, deep fwd pocket, but no one can get clean possession at the moment, tough conditions
2:16pm
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Q1
16 min to go
GWS 0.0 Rich 0.0
still no score, a series of throw ins just outside the tiges’ 50 m arc, ball been stuck here for a while
2:15pm
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Deledio with footy outside 50, puts it in, big pack, Giants spoil, and Bugg wins the free for high contact, put himself in a position to win it, Giants holding firm early on
2:14pm
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Sitll no score after a few minutes, Richmond with most of attacking, 70m round now from tiges goal, throw in
2:13pm
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Cornes with spoil, Power takes it low and cleanly, back to Cornes, Giants clear footy out of def 50
2:12pm
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Shiel, Scully and Adams combine for the clearance
2:12pm
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A series of ball ups – pattern for the day already setting in
2:12pm
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Interesting stat: Giants are yet to reach 100 goals this season after 11 games
2:11pm
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Dan Connors back for the tiges, first game since round 3 last season
2:11pm
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Ump throws it up to start the game, giving us an indication of the muddy conditions, Richmond with the immediate take away
2:10pm
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seconds away from opening bounce
2:06pm
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Dusty Martin returns to Sydney, having lived here a year as a 15 year old, played a season with the Cambelltown U18s.
2:05pm
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The tiges are likely to handle the wet weather better, but as we know, wet weather footy is a great leveller.
2:05pm
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GWS out on the ground now, running through a banner that has already succombed to the wet weather
Lights are on, it’s very grey, small crowd in attendance.
2:04pm
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The others to debut for GWS today: Sam Schulz from Culcairn, and Mark Whiley from Finley, both NSW boys.
2:06pm
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Schulz to make AFL debut
http://www.dailyadvertiser.com.au/news/local/sport/football-australian-rules/schulz-to-make-afl-debut/2592637.aspx
3:36pm
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thanks for the link
I missed who are the subs, but I think Schulz must be wearing the green shirt
the other NSW boy, Whiley, did all right early on with 3 disposals, but most importantly has mixed it in the packs
1:42pm
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Just a reminder that no. draft pick, Jonathon Patton is 19 yo, 197cm and 102 kg – he is a beautiful build for a key postion forward.
1:41pm
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The news this morning is that GWS has managed to sign up a few more of their young guns to add to those already announced: Dylan Shiel, Tom Bugg, Adam Tomlinson, Matt Buntine and Adam Kennedy.
The big names yet to re-sign are the General, Stephen Coniglio and Dom Tyson.
1:37pm
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Richmond hasn’t won a game of footy in Sydney for many, many years.
1:41pm
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drought about to end.
1:36pm
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Skies are grey, lights are on, and the crowd prediction looking quite grim.
1:40pm
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oh well, if it can beat the crowd at penrith last Monday, it will be considered ok I guess
1:41pm
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touch and go!!
1:32pm
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Jonathon Patton’s mum being interviewed on ABC radio right now – some of the Patton clan are in Sydney today for his much anticipated debut – although the wet conditions will not suit the big fella.
1:34pm
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Patton’s mum talking about the effort that goes into supporting the elite level kids through the various junior under age national championships.
1:36pm
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He prefers being called John or Johnny.
Nick name at the club is Jono or General – it was inevitable that he’d be called The General.
If he sticks with GWS, he’s a future captain.
1:31pm
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Very wet conditions in Sydney today, likely to be a very small crows, most probably sub 8,000.