Players can have an opinion, but there’s a fine line
By Michael DiFabrizio, 20 Jun 2012 Michael DiFabrizio is a Roar Expert
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Carlton were yesterday fined $7500 for tweets sent by injured players during Thursday’s game with West Coast that were critical of the umpiring.
It seemed as though from the second the players put finger to phone, there was support coming from all angles.
“Let the players speak their mind!” was the cry of the typical fan.
Which is all well and good. Great hypocrisy is exposed when those who call for more characters in the game are the first to go “tsk tsk” when a player does something that has a 0.001% of offending someone.
Except in this instance, the players – Marc Murphy and Jeremy Laidler, as well as Jarrad Waite who became the first AFL player to be found guilty of re-tweeting – deserved to cop a whack.
Those who pre-emptively leapt to their defence can return to their seats (assuming last night’s earthquake didn’t knock them over).
To be clear, it’s got nothing to do with “protecting the brand”. I’ve heard that line a few times this week and it’s fair to say the less it’s repeated in footy circles the better. Ugh.
Yes, in a lot of other work places airing concerns with your employer on social media is going to get you in some trouble. But a lot of other work places don’t generate the same attention as AFL football – if every man and his dog can have a say on “the brand”, we can’t exclude the players.
The real problem with the tweets from Thursday is a little more tangible.
It’s the fact that each and every year, all around the country, footy leagues grapple with a problem called recruiting umpires.
No matter how many times people preach the importance of respecting the umpire and his decisions, the reality is it’s tough to recruit and keep people willing to umpire footy in local leagues.
Abuse and just a general lack of respect can drive young umpires away from the whistle, and even experienced umpires aren’t immune. Some simply get to the point where they’ve had enough.
The message has to come from the top, at the AFL level, that there simply isn’t a game without the umps. And no group of people at AFL level have more power to influence those in lower leagues on this issue than the players.
They need to set an example of how the player-umpire relationship should work.
That’s not to say they should be forever silenced. By all means, if there is an issue, Jeff Gieschen’s door should be open to them. Clubs, too, should have the power to pass on concerns.
But there’s no need to heap public pressure on the umpires.
Players are allowed to speak their mind, and Twitter has ensured we get a great deal more of what’s on their mind than ever before. However, some things have to be off limits.
Given the position of leadership the players are in, umpires simply must be one of them.
Michael DiFabrizio is completing his journalism degree. As an AFL writer, he has been an expert columnist at The Roar since 2009, and appeared in The Age and on ABC television and radio. Follow Michael on twitter @mdifabrizio
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June 20th 2012 @ 9:15am
Macca said | June 20th 2012 @ 9:15am | Report comment
Come on Michael this was hardly “abuse” – Laidler simply queried why the bloke going in for the ball wasn’t getting protected and looking at the decision and the fact it was giving away a certain goal that query is warranted. Murphy went further but was hardly derogatory. Waite’s wifes comment were probably the worst but still “3 Votes number 6 in Green” is hardly going to cuase young kids to decide against being an umpire.
If these tweets constitute punishable abuse then all journalists should be worried, any article that queries an umpires decision will be sanctioned.
The fact is the umpires in question made some really poor decisions and just as when a player makes mistakes they should be held up for scrutiny.
June 20th 2012 @ 11:46am
Michael DiFabrizio said | June 20th 2012 @ 11:46am | Report comment
Never said that the Carlton players were guilty of abuse. But abuse or not, my point is that the players must lead by example and be respectful of the umpire and his decisions. Mouthing off publicly does not set a good example and the comments themselves were not respectful of the umpires that night.
June 20th 2012 @ 11:55am
Macca said | June 20th 2012 @ 11:55am | Report comment
Sorry Michael but when you say “Abuse and just a general lack of respect can drive young umpires away from the whistle, and even experienced umpires aren’t immune.” and “Except in this instance, the players – Marc Murphy and Jeremy Laidler, as well as Jarrad Waite who became the first AFL player to be found guilty of re-tweeting – deserved to cop a whack.” What interpretation should I conclude?
And how was Laidler’s comment disrespectful? I think we are crossing a line here from having to be respectful to having to be reverential. We have to treat them like they are as unfallable as the pope.
June 20th 2012 @ 12:06pm
Michael DiFabrizio said | June 20th 2012 @ 12:06pm | Report comment
Macca, that’s a bit of selective quoting? Those lines are seven paragraphs apart… I was outlining the problems facing young umpires and why it’s an issue at that point in the article. Wasn’t an accusation that the Carlton players had done it themselves.
June 20th 2012 @ 1:15pm
Macca said | June 20th 2012 @ 1:15pm | Report comment
Yes it’s selsctive quoting but you have a problem with what the carlton boys did and the only reason given (even if it is 7 paragraphs down) is that it was abuse or general lack of respect.
I would also say that given these days the TV coverage wants to talk to coaches and players at the end of every quarter, immediately before and after games and even as they get interchanged it strikes me odd that as soon as the players express an opinion contrary to what the AFL want to hear they get penalised. Do we only want to get the same “we just have to work hard at the contest” type drivel that adds nothing?
Adrian Anderson even said Ratten went close to being sacntioned for saying getting the rough end of the pineapple from the umpires in Perth is “the lay of the land” and “to be expected” when everyone knows that the crowd gets them free kicks and the stats back that up.
June 20th 2012 @ 9:48am
andyincanberra said | June 20th 2012 @ 9:48am | Report comment
Firstly I think any player that tweets during a game like Marc Murphy or Gary Abblet is just stupid. Just don’t do it.
On the one hand I think that umpires could do a little more to explain their decisions after the fact. For example, last night on AFL360 Mark Robinson was talking about a conversation he had with Jeff Gieschen. They were talking about the 50m penalty against Judd, which on TV looked very soft. Jeff Gieschen’s explanation was that Judd had been told a number of times to stop remonstrating with Pridis, after the second or third time being told, Judd went oer and gave Priddis the little love tap which lead to the 50m penalty. What choice did the umpire have after warning Judd to settle down? Yes it looked bad on TV, but it was the only saction available to the umpire. I think if this explanation was more widely circulated, then alot of people might just say to themselves, fair call.
On the other hand, asking umpires to explain their decisions publically could lead to alot of unfair scrutiny on the umpires. It could lead to people expecting umpires to explain every decision that they make. Like all people, umpires are fallable. We can forgive a player making an error in a match, but not an umpire.
June 20th 2012 @ 9:54am
Macca said | June 20th 2012 @ 9:54am | Report comment
What choice did the umpire have, how about not over reacting and letting it go, Was it about to errupt into an all in brawl? No. Would it all of settled down as soon as the ball was in play? Yes.
As for forgiving player but not umpires, have a look at the scrutiny players get – Josh Hunt got slammed as being weak for making a mistake. Umpires get virutally no scrutiny in comparison.
June 20th 2012 @ 10:11am
andyincanberra said | June 20th 2012 @ 10:11am | Report comment
The umpire had already let it go a couple of times but that didn’t quell Judd’s temper. All Judd had to do was remove himself from the situation after the first warning and let the player kick for goal. Judd is painted as the victim of a poor umpiring decision, he is not the one facing scrutiny for his poor actions. The umpire has come under tremendous scrutiny for what is perceived as a poor decision, yet given context, it was not an unreasonable decision.
June 20th 2012 @ 10:21am
Macca said | June 20th 2012 @ 10:21am | Report comment
Andy – Yes Judd had received warnings but the action was hardly an escalation and what exactly was the offence he didn’t get himhigh or push him in the back or grab him without the ball. And Priddis was hardly an innocent victim.
June 21st 2012 @ 7:33pm
Bayman said | June 21st 2012 @ 7:33pm | Report comment
Macca,
You’ll just have to trust me when I say I’m no great fan of umpires – or to be more precise, the rulings they are forced to apply these days – but I’ve no problem with the Judd 50 metre penalty for no other reason than a player of Judd’s experience simply ought to know better.
Let’s call it a 50 metre penalty for stupidity. Sure he was a tad agitated, footy is an emotional game etc. but today player’s aren’t allowed to show emotion. It’s the sort of thing umpires love to jump all over – given they lack, to a man, any form of common sense whatsoever.
What they do like, however, is to impose themselves on a situation, any situation, if for no other reason than the idiot Gieschen expects them to behave that way.
Apparently the idea is to to develop a game that some obscure mum somewhere would be happy to let her son play. And Macca, you have to look after the mums! Oh, and the lawyers….and the accountants…. and the odd mouthy dad who thinks his son is the next Bunton….and the …ah, bugger ‘em.. let the rest look after themselves
June 22nd 2012 @ 9:13am
Macca said | June 22nd 2012 @ 9:13am | Report comment
Yeah Bayman, we want the players to bleed for their club and expect nothing more than 100% commitment, but show a little frustration and they’ll get you.
June 20th 2012 @ 10:03am
micka said | June 20th 2012 @ 10:03am | Report comment
In every profession there is scrutiny on the employee. Especially in regards to how external stakeholders view their performance.
Why are umpires exempt from something everyone else has to go through. Surely justifying their decisions is necessary.
If they think their decisions are bad enough to not want to justify them to the public, why are they umpires?
Having said that, the AFL going fans need to shut their mouths and refrain from screaming 50 or baaaawwwwllllllll before their player has taken a mark or made a tackle. The game is going soft and is over umpired because you as a fan implicitly demand it everytime you give the umpire a spray for something extremely minor.
June 20th 2012 @ 11:51am
Michael DiFabrizio said | June 20th 2012 @ 11:51am | Report comment
Micka, no one is saying umpires should be exempt from stakeholders (in this case the players) critiquing their performance. They just can’t mouth off during and after the game in a very public forum. That sets a a horrible example and I’d hate to think people see it and think its acceptable behaviour.
If you have a problem with the umps, go see Jeff Geischen on Monday, report it within your club or discuss it with the AFLPA. There are plenty of sympathetic ears in positions of power without going public.
June 20th 2012 @ 11:59am
Macca said | June 20th 2012 @ 11:59am | Report comment
What happens then, how many terrible decisions has Gieschen defended as correct? And who knows whether the same interpretation will be applied next week anyway?!
June 20th 2012 @ 2:43pm
micka said | June 20th 2012 @ 2:43pm | Report comment
I completely disagree. The players are openly criticised in the public forum daily. I believe the umpires potentially have a greater impact on the result of the game than most individual players and therefore their performances should be under the same scrutiny. I think the transparency of the public forum is ideal for promoting immediate and accountable responses from the umpires, whereas reporting the indiscretion through beurocratic channels will inevitable result in the response to complaints being derailed, diffused, lost, diverted and at best responded to in a narrow manner.
June 20th 2012 @ 2:50pm
Macca said | June 20th 2012 @ 2:50pm | Report comment
Agree there Micka, the blues lost to the Eagles by 10 points and the Eagles got 2 goals from 50m penalties and one from a wrong decision in the goal square, and that is only direct goals and doesn’t include a couple of free’s not paid to the blues in the forward 50.
June 20th 2012 @ 11:32am
Col said | June 20th 2012 @ 11:32am | Report comment
Are AFL umpires on full time salaries with the AFL? Or do they have other jobs and umpire part time?
June 20th 2012 @ 12:07pm
Tim said | June 20th 2012 @ 12:07pm | Report comment
The majority (I think all except one last time I checked) all have full-time jobs in addition to umpiring games on the weekends, training everyday and going through post-match reviews (which are very thorough – everything an umpire does is marked on a running sheet, including if a free kick was correct or unwarranted or whether one was missed, the positioning for each contest, bounces).
Same goes for the boundary and goal umpires (who both get paid less than the field umpires)
The following website has profiles of the umpires, including what they do outside umpiring for their full-time employment.
http://www.aflua.com.au/Field_Umpires_profiles
Also the following video gives you an idea of the post-match reviews and the fact that umpires have other jobs in addition to training and going through reviews.
June 20th 2012 @ 4:15pm
BigAl said | June 20th 2012 @ 4:15pm | Report comment
Looks like Sam Newman’s plastic surgery job is failing on the left side of his face ??
June 20th 2012 @ 11:47am
Lats said | June 20th 2012 @ 11:47am | Report comment
Seriously, back in the 1980′s you said one word to the ump it was a 15 meter penalty, no exceptions. The offending player then usually got dragged.
Has there ever been one time in history where an ump reversed his decision?? Whistle blows, just get on with it.
Why do umpires have to explain their decisions anyway? Do players have to explain why they miss goals, kick it out on the full, make head hight tackles?
June 20th 2012 @ 11:56am
Macca said | June 20th 2012 @ 11:56am | Report comment
Lats – I think you are misremembering the 80′s but even if you are correct 15m is a lot different to 50m.
June 20th 2012 @ 12:02pm
Lats said | June 20th 2012 @ 12:02pm | Report comment
Mate, eighties was 15 metre penalty, 1987 preliminary final Hawthron vs Melbourne, Buckenara kicks the winning goal after siren after Jim Stynes runs across the mark… ump awards a 15 metre penalty, putting Bucks just in range
June 20th 2012 @ 1:17pm
Macca said | June 20th 2012 @ 1:17pm | Report comment
Yep that happnned but nowdays bucks could of been 35m further back and got the same result.
June 20th 2012 @ 12:05pm
Lats said | June 20th 2012 @ 12:05pm | Report comment
50 metre penalty… consider this.. the free kick and 50 metre penalty for an interchange offense… this could decide a grand final…
Interchange offense should be a fine.. $10,000 for the player, and $100,000 for the club.
A game should not be decided because a guys toenail 150m away from the action may or may not have crossed a white line
June 20th 2012 @ 1:17pm
Macca said | June 20th 2012 @ 1:17pm | Report comment
Agree the penalty for an interchange offence is ridiculous but that level of fine is just as bad.
June 20th 2012 @ 2:05pm
Greggy Dee said | June 20th 2012 @ 2:05pm | Report comment
You have mis remembered the 80′s. Back then yes it was only a 15 metre penalty but the players could say almost anything to umpires and not be sanctioned. How many times did we see players take their mouthguards out to give umpires like Glenn James a mouthful? How many times did a player throw their mouthguard away in disgust? These blokes should be thankful they are not getting fined anywhere near the amount JAmes Hird was fined for having a go at Scott McLaren (I think) on the Footy Show.
June 20th 2012 @ 2:20pm
Macca said | June 20th 2012 @ 2:20pm | Report comment
Greggy Dee – That’s my recollection too, I think it is WOW Jones that stars in some very famous footage of him going right off at an umpire while standing on the mark, no penalty then but it would be the length of the field now.
June 20th 2012 @ 11:50am
Lats said | June 20th 2012 @ 11:50am | Report comment
I think this role model thing needs to be taken seriously.
I saw some horrific footage on youtube of Canadian teenagers beating each other up playing high school ice hokey.. it was horrendous.
Kids do copy what the professional athletes do.. no question. If a Brownlow medallist back chats the umpire, what chance a 13 year old kid is going to respect them?
June 20th 2012 @ 11:58am
Macca said | June 20th 2012 @ 11:58am | Report comment
Maybe the parents could do something? Or even the coach of the under 13′s?
June 20th 2012 @ 12:04pm
wisey_9 said | June 20th 2012 @ 12:04pm | Report comment
It’d be great if the AFL initiated some sort of program where once players had retired, a small percentage of them stay on for a few years as umpires.
This would help the post-football depression that is experienced by many, as well open up a new avenue of “staying involved in football” for those not lucky enough to score media or coaching gigs. i’d imagine that players would hold a lot more respect for some ex-pros as well…
June 20th 2012 @ 1:18pm
Macca said | June 20th 2012 @ 1:18pm | Report comment
ALready happnening, jordan Bannister pictures is one example but there are others coming through.
June 20th 2012 @ 1:31pm
andyincanberra said | June 20th 2012 @ 1:31pm | Report comment
Mark Fraser, former Collingwood/Essendon player. Good idea, there should be more of it though.
June 20th 2012 @ 2:40pm
Kuruki said | June 20th 2012 @ 2:40pm | Report comment
Anyone who questions the complete hidden agenda baist toward the Eagles will be punished. How dare you bring to light the brown paper bag dealings of the AFL.
June 20th 2012 @ 4:11pm
brendan said | June 20th 2012 @ 4:11pm | Report comment
Carlton have short memories they received two 50′s in a row against Geelong resulting in goals that were iffy and agreed that Judd’s was soft but overall they even out.You cant have footballers openly bagging umpires .Our game is getting harder and harder to umpire when i was a junior coach if a kid abused an umpire i would schedule a practise match for training and make the kid umpire to see how easy it is to make an honest error.
June 20th 2012 @ 4:20pm
Macca said | June 20th 2012 @ 4:20pm | Report comment
Brendan one of those “iffy” 50m penalties was for a player running through the mark – not sure how “iffy” that is. Can’t remeber what the second one was for to be honest but it does just reifnorce the fact that 50m is a massive penalty for very minor offences.
And the “they even out” theory doesn’t exactly hold, you might get a good run in a game you win by 100 points but get a bad run in a game you lose by a goal, the decision even out but the impact on the season doesn’t.
June 21st 2012 @ 2:06pm
brendan said | June 21st 2012 @ 2:06pm | Report comment
True Macca and the ball was forty metres away being relayed back as the umpire blue time on.Admittedly he did run through the mark but it had no affect on the game as the Carlton player was waiting for the ball.
June 20th 2012 @ 6:54pm
Jacques said | June 20th 2012 @ 6:54pm | Report comment
The problem is every week the rules and interpretation changes,even the umpires don’t know what to do during the game