All Blacks side: Dan Carter out, Cruden in
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Dan Carter’s hamstring injury isn’t serious but it’s enough to keep him out of the All Blacks for Saturday’s third Test against Ireland.
Carter kicked the matchwinning dropped goal in last weekend’s 22-19 win over Ireland but tweaked his hamstring in training on Tuesday, allowing Aaron Cruden a chance to start the Test in Hamilton.
“Hamstrings are annoying things to anyone who’s fast enough to have one. They tend to hang around for a bit,” head coach Steve Hansen said.
“It should be a couple of weeks, three weeks, we’re not really sure.”
Cruden’s inclusion is one of six changes to the starting 15 which went close to surrendering the All Blacks’ unbeaten record against Ireland.
Kieran Read’s concussion has forced him out, with captain Richie McCaw moving to No.8 and Sam Cane taking his position at openside flanker.
Hansen also made four changes which he labelled “strategic”, preferring not use what he called “that other word” – rest.
Luke Romano comes in at lock for Brodie Retallick, Liam Messam will play blindside flanker instead of Adam Thomson, and wings Hosea Gear and Ben Smith come in for Julian Savea and Zac Guildford.
“Right from the word go we felt that if this series was wrapped up by Christchurch, then we would look to make some strategic changes. We’ve done that with the four changes we’ve made,” he said.
On the bench, hooker Keven Mealamu returning from injury as cover for Andrew Hore, Tamati Ellison will cover the outside backs, and Hurricanes fly-half Beauden Barrett could make his Test debut after being selected as cover for Cruden.
Hansen said he wasn’t tempted to play inside centre Ma’a Nonu, who hasn’t been on the bench during the Irish series, saying the All Blacks were using the three-week Irish series “to give him this opportunity to get a pre-season”.
All Blacks team to play Ireland: Israel Dagg, Ben Smith, Conrad Smith, Sonny Bill Williams, Hosea Gear, Aaron Cruden, Aaron Smith, Richie McCaw, Sam Cane, Liam Messam, Sam Whitelock, Luke Romano, Owen Franks, Andrew Hore, Tony Woodcock. Res: Keven Mealamu, Ben Franks, Brodie Retallick, Adam Thomson, Piri Weepu, Beauden Barrett, Tamati Ellison.
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June 21st 2012 @ 11:53am
Uncle Argyle said | June 21st 2012 @ 11:53am | Report comment
Really happy for Liam Messam to be given another opportunity. Great player, great skipper.
June 21st 2012 @ 12:14pm
Tumble Hill said | June 21st 2012 @ 12:14pm | Report comment
Hopefully he brings some good physicality to the team UA. I would love to see him have a blinder.
Looking forward to seeing Barrett get on – if he gets a chance.
June 21st 2012 @ 12:28pm
Uncle Argyle said | June 21st 2012 @ 12:28pm | Report comment
Yep he looks the goods as well. I am going for the Irish but am also a big fan of Messam.
June 21st 2012 @ 3:29pm
Pierce said | June 21st 2012 @ 3:29pm | Report comment
Hope Messam goes well, great Super 15 player but been found wanting at this level before. Backrow looks unbalanced to me.
June 21st 2012 @ 12:11pm
kieran said | June 21st 2012 @ 12:11pm | Report comment
let’s see whether the cruden-sbw axis can bring their super rugby understanding to the test arena.
i think 1 of 2 things is going to happen:
1) the all blacks come into this game fired-up with aggression seeking to make amends for last weeks close call. the result is restoring a respectable winning margin- though nowhere near as much as their 1st test.
2) the irish come into this game even more fired-up with aggression than last week seeking to make amends for last weeks historic near win. the result is the irish just win the game by either a converted penalty or try.
June 21st 2012 @ 12:44pm
justsaying said | June 21st 2012 @ 12:44pm | Report comment
I think these changes have increased the likelihood of option (2) kieran. I was expecting the ABs to come back hard in this game, but the inclusion of a number of players who saw little or no time in last week’s game might take a bit of the sting out. On the other hand, the Irish may well take heart from the absence of the talismanic Carter and Read, and fire up for one more big tilt at their Everest…
June 21st 2012 @ 12:29pm
Cantab said | June 21st 2012 @ 12:29pm | Report comment
Wonder how lOng the ‘saders will be without DC and read.
June 21st 2012 @ 12:45pm
justsaying said | June 21st 2012 @ 12:45pm | Report comment
They can probably beat the ‘Canes without them but they’ll want them back for the Chiefs game!
June 21st 2012 @ 1:03pm
Jutsie said | June 21st 2012 @ 1:03pm | Report comment
Its being reported up to 3 weeks out.
June 21st 2012 @ 9:47pm
Demon Dez said | June 21st 2012 @ 9:47pm | Report comment
Carter’s hamstring injury is only mild, but enough to keep him out of this test. Read’s concussion worries are only precautionary measures. They will both be back for the the all-important Chiefs’ game.
June 21st 2012 @ 12:31pm
atlas said | June 21st 2012 @ 12:31pm | Report comment
my trivia contribution – Beauden Barrett and Conrad Smith both old boys and 1st XV players for Francis Douglas College in New Plymouth. Barrett’s father Kevin played 167 matches for Taranaki and for 15 Hurricanes.
apart from that, I wouldn’t be gambling on result of this game, Ireland have a real chance in my opinion.
If Mealamu comes up lame again it’ll surely be the end of him in Black?
Just hope it’s good game.
June 21st 2012 @ 12:44pm
Mike said | June 21st 2012 @ 12:44pm | Report comment
I know Cruden has strong supporters, but I really feel the ABs are less dangerous without Carter. Maybe its just because of all the times he has done us over before.
June 21st 2012 @ 12:53pm
moaman said | June 21st 2012 @ 12:53pm | Report comment
Irish team named;
Rob Kearney, Fergus McFadden, Brian O’Driscoll (c), Paddy Wallace, Keith Earls, Jonathan Sexton, Conor Murray. Peter O’Mahony, Sean O’Brien, Kevin McLaughlin, Donnacha Ryan, Dan Tuohy, Mike Ross, Rory Best, Cian Healy. Reserves: Sean Cronin, Declan Fitzpatrick, Donncha O’Callaghan, Chris Henry, Eion Reddan, Ronan O’Gara, Andrew Trimble.
Bit surprised by Wallace being rushed straight back in.Would love to hear an Irish take on that.
June 21st 2012 @ 12:57pm
Jutsie said | June 21st 2012 @ 12:57pm | Report comment
Heaslip injured?
June 21st 2012 @ 1:01pm
ohtani's jacket said | June 21st 2012 @ 1:01pm | Report comment
Yeah, broken finger.
June 21st 2012 @ 1:00pm
Tumble Hill said | June 21st 2012 @ 1:00pm | Report comment
There is combinations all over the park for the AB’s which is going to be a huge help for them. Messam + Cane, Whitelock + Romano, A Smith + Cruden, Cruden + SBW, C Smith + Gear and Gear + B Smith. All these guys play with and know each other well. Yes there is not alot of test experience there but with the likes of Richie, Conrad, Dagg and the front row this is a well balanced team. AB’s for the win.
June 21st 2012 @ 1:02pm
Kuruki said | June 21st 2012 @ 1:02pm | Report comment
Well done Steve Hansen. I’m absolutely rapt at how he has managed and handled his team from the day he took over the job. I had serious question marks over him and his coaching staff but they have absolutely delivered when it comes to selections and rewarding form and also keeping one eye on the future.
I am stoked for Cruden to get a start, he will be confident and i think he will trouble the Irish with his running game as they focus more on SBW.
IMO even with the loss of Carter i don’t think the backline has taken a step backward at all. Gear and B Smith are more then able replacements for Guildford and Savea and imo they are the better combination of the two. Cruden has been the form 10 in Nz this season.
Hopefully Messam can bring his super form into the test arena, surely he knows this could be his last chance to impress.
All in all im still very confident this team can get the job done, and there will be no lack of effort as some of these boys will be eager to impress.
All Blacks by 12.
June 21st 2012 @ 1:02pm
Winston said | June 21st 2012 @ 1:02pm | Report comment
I really hope messam and gear take this opportunity. They have huge potential. Glad to see zac g dropped. The guy does nothing in test arena, unless it’s Canada. It’ll be good yo see how cruden has improved.
June 21st 2012 @ 1:26pm
Who Needs Melon said | June 21st 2012 @ 1:26pm | Report comment
Messam and Gear have both been playing top level rugby for 8-10 years I think. In fact I think Messam is a little bit the NZ equivalent of Phil Waugh. Not comparing ability or style – just that he’s been caught behind really good players like McCaw.
A youngster like Sam Cane probably suits the term “huge potential” better than Messam or Gear.
June 21st 2012 @ 1:22pm
Pogo said | June 21st 2012 @ 1:22pm | Report comment
I think Gear and B Smith are definitely stronger than Guildford and Savea.
Make or break time for Messam. Other players have struggled early on but come good later (e.g. Kaino) but sooner later you have to pull some finger.
Ireland could come out firing, but they might have missed the golden opportunity. You would expect that the All Blacks will be ready for them this week, having possibly been a bit complacent last weekend.
My biggest worry is McCaw at 8, although he has a high work rate he’s not the damaging runner that Read is and they’ll miss that. Read is also a pretty useful lineout option which neither McCaw nor Messam quite replace. On the other hand he and Cane might give them hell at the breakdown.
Dropping Retallick would seem a bit mysterious, but I think Romano will front up just as well and if he doesn’t they’ll throw Retallick in anyway.
June 21st 2012 @ 1:44pm
Kuruki said | June 21st 2012 @ 1:44pm | Report comment
I don’t think they have dropped Retallick for any reason other then to give Romano some game time and give Rettalick a rest. The kid has had a massive workload this season and i won’t be surprised if he does not even make it onto the paddock. The Chiefs have a few big games coming up and i’m sure Hansen is well aware of that. The last thing he wants is to burn the kid out in his first season.
June 21st 2012 @ 1:58pm
nick said | June 21st 2012 @ 1:58pm | Report comment
Absolutely Kuruki. Id hate to see Rettalick go the way of Issac Ross.
His fall from grace was spectacular.
June 21st 2012 @ 2:26pm
Uncle Argyle said | June 21st 2012 @ 2:26pm | Report comment
Where is Isaac Ross and what did happen to him?
June 21st 2012 @ 2:56pm
justsaying said | June 21st 2012 @ 2:56pm | Report comment
He got dropped like a bad habit and according to Wikipedia now plays in South Korea.
June 21st 2012 @ 3:35pm
Uncle Argyle said | June 21st 2012 @ 3:35pm | Report comment
Bet you he is getting paid a squllion though
June 21st 2012 @ 3:20pm
Pogo said | June 21st 2012 @ 3:20pm | Report comment
Still in Japan, Korea would have been an even bigger fall from grace.
http://www.ashburtonguardian.co.nz/news/sports-news/6867-isaac-extending-his-japanese-sojourn.html
June 21st 2012 @ 9:51pm
Demon Dez said | June 21st 2012 @ 9:51pm | Report comment
Uncle, yep, he is making big dollars in Japan
June 21st 2012 @ 1:55pm
justsaying said | June 21st 2012 @ 1:55pm | Report comment
Yeah McCaw hasn’t convinced me at 8 for the ABs or the Crusaders. I’d prefer to see him at 6, but unfortunately with Read and Vito out he’s the best 8 we have…
June 21st 2012 @ 3:17pm
Pogo said | June 21st 2012 @ 3:17pm | Report comment
I think one of the columnists in the paper suggested McCaw at 6 and Messam at 8, Given that Messam has played at 6 all season it’s probably better to have one player out of position than two.
June 21st 2012 @ 4:11pm
Kuruki said | June 21st 2012 @ 4:11pm | Report comment
Messam has been playing on the blind for the Chiefs and that is his best position. McCaw played at 8 when Read went off and will have had longer to work the combinations and moves with Smith during the past few weeks. Messam only just got into camp.
June 21st 2012 @ 8:15pm
Pogo said | June 21st 2012 @ 8:15pm | Report comment
Yes, hence my statement it is better to have one player out of position (McCaw at 8) than two (McCaw at 6 and Messam at 8).