Afternoon rugby Tests a must
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The message was loud and clear to ARU boss John O’Neill last Saturday – bring back afternoon Test matches, and give night Tests the permanent punt.
Rugby fans voted with their feet. Allianz Stadium was virtually chockers for the third and final Test against Wales, setting a rugby record 42,889 in the heartland of the 15-man code.
The previous record was 41,917 against the All Blacks in 1994. The all-time record – 43,967 for the FIFA World Cup qualifier between the Socceroos and Argentina in 1993.
Last Saturday was an emphatic reminder to the ARU the fans know what they want, and it’s not Homebush, nor the night.
Many fans want to take their kids to watch the Wallabies, and enjoy the outing as a family unit. Not having to bed them down at midnight by the time they get home irritable and worn out, taking all the enjoyment out of the exercise.
And for the adults who go it alone, or with a team of mates, to kick off with drinks or lunch at the Captain Cook, the Lord Dudley, Dolphin, or Paddington Green just to name a few, is rugby heaven.
Those same fans can’t do that at ANZ Stadium, it’s a venue without soul.
Those facts have firmly placed the ARU between a rock and a hard place. And it’s all about cold hard cash.
The potential gate from 80,000 at ANZ Stadium for a Test against the All Blacks or Boks, with the vast majority wanting to see the Test in the flesh, but not wanting to be at Homebush, and begrudging the fact they have been forced to – and at night.
Or the 43,000 at Allianz enjoying every minute from the time they leave home until their return for an afternoon Test, and be home for dinner.
Which translates to the chase for the almighty dollar in sport at the expense of those providing it – the fans.
And the chase extends to naming rights for stadiums.
Stadium Australia hosted the 2000 Olympic Games. In 2002 it became Telstra Stadium, in 2007 ANZ Stadium when it should have been named Sydney Olympic Park from the beginning and left alone.
Lansdowne Road, the home of Irish rugby and the oldest rugby ground in the world, built in 1872, is now Aviva Stadium.
Ellis Park, the famous home of South African rugby, is now Coca Cola Park.
In 2006 English Premier League side Arsenal went from their traditional home ground Highbury to the Emirates Stadium.
And the Sydney Football Stadium since 1988 is now Allianz Stadium.
There are countless examples all round the world where famous sporting venues now carry the sponsor’s name. A tragedy of the times and meaningless to the sportslover.
Can you imagine Lords, Wimbledon, St Andrews, the MCG, or the SCG losing their iconic identity to the almighty dollar?
Not bloody likely.
The sands of time bring change, no argument with that, but when the fans demand it, some things should never be altered.
Afternoon rugby, including Super Rugby, is high on that list.
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June 25th 2012 @ 5:55am
Damo said | June 25th 2012 @ 5:55am | Report comment
SFS ‘the heartland of the 15 man code’, David?
Hardly, it’s bordered by AFL ground and shared with NRL games.
SFS is good for some tests but not for Tah rugby.
Agree that Homebush lacks ‘soul’. There are no villages or even any people living there. It seems like a ghost town even when there’s a 100k there for a game.
June 25th 2012 @ 6:20am
David Lord said | June 25th 2012 @ 6:20am | Report comment
Damo, the SFS is indeed the heartland, as there are no grounds big enough on the north side, and the west is sure not rugby. As for the SFS not good for the Tahs, they would kill to have 40,000-plus watching them instead of the pitiful 13,000-plus of late.
June 25th 2012 @ 1:37pm
jeznez said | June 25th 2012 @ 1:37pm | Report comment
Lordy if they didn’t play so pitifully they wouldn’t have such pitiful crowds. It wasn’t that many years ago where the Tahs would crack 40,000+ crowds a few times a season.
June 26th 2012 @ 12:29pm
Frank The Tank said | June 26th 2012 @ 12:29pm | Report comment
Poor arguement Damo, seriously. You had to be at the SFS on Saturday to see it is so much what the fans want. If that game was a dead rubber like it was, they wouldn’t have got more than 40,000 at Homebush. The pubs at Paddo were chockers before and after and people walked and were in a great mood doing so.
Whats bordered by an AFL ground mean exactly? So what a stadium can’t be used for multiple sports or can’t have other grounds too close them? Poor arguement Damo
June 27th 2012 @ 9:54pm
John said | June 27th 2012 @ 9:54pm | Report comment
A combined audience of only 354,000 (142,000 on FoxSports, 212,000 on Channel Nine) tuned in to the afternoon test match. Don’t think we will see another afternoon game for a while. Meanwhile NRL games are attracting Friday night audiences of 1,243,000 and Sunday afternoon games attract 817,000.
June 25th 2012 @ 6:40am
Crashy said | June 25th 2012 @ 6:40am | Report comment
Damo. Bordered by an afl ground??? Where? Surely you don’t mean the Sydney cricket ground do you? Davidbis right. The sfsbsits where the support for the 15 man game is strongest, therefore it’s heartland. What are you possibly trying to argue that?
June 25th 2012 @ 7:07am
Christo the Daddyo said | June 25th 2012 @ 7:07am | Report comment
Meanwhile, back in the real world…
There is no way a game against NZ, SA or England (or the Lions for that matter) will be played at Allianz or in the day. The ARU would be committing financial suicide.
Against the other teams however, it makes sense.
And let’s not get carried away with the crowd figure. It might have been a sellout and a record for a rugby game at the venue, but it wasn’t a capacity crowd.
June 25th 2012 @ 7:14am
David Lord said | June 25th 2012 @ 7:14am | Report comment
Christo, doesn’t virtually chockers suggest it wasn’t capacity? As for Tests against the ABs, Boks, England, and the Lions, remaining at Homebush for financial reasons, there’s no reason why they can’t be played in the afternoon. That solves half the problem.
June 25th 2012 @ 10:39am
Christo the Daddyo said | June 25th 2012 @ 10:39am | Report comment
David, my point about it not being at capacity was that if the demand for afternoon tests at Allianz was as great as some rugby pundits claim, there shouldn’t have been a spare seat in the house. As the SCGT claims the capacity of Allianz is 45,500, this means the ground was about 6% under full attendance.
And as the ARU gets a decent chunk of money from TV rights, I think it’s entirely appropriate for the big tests to remain in the time slots that will get the best ratings.
And I do take you (and a few others) to task about the statement that ANZ has no ‘soul’. It’s such a meaningless thing to say. If there are 60,000 or more people in there and they’re in full voice, that venue is fantastic. Equally, Allianz with 13,000 subdued fans could be described as very ‘soul-less’. Stadium atmosphere generally comes from two things – being reasonably full, and how engaged the crowd is.
June 25th 2012 @ 11:50am
p.Tah said | June 25th 2012 @ 11:50am | Report comment
Christo, seriously? “there shouldn’t have been a spare seat in the house. As the SCGT claims the capacity of Allianz is 45,500, this means the ground was about 6% under full attendance.”
Keeping in mind that this was a game where series had already been decided, I think the attendance was a ringing endorsement for the venue and the time the game was played at.
I think you’re a tough marker.
June 25th 2012 @ 1:02pm
Chop said | June 25th 2012 @ 1:02pm | Report comment
You also need to take into account that corporate boxes have a deemed capacity and if they are not filled can not be onsold seats.
I can’t see how anyone would be looking to be negative about the crowd on Saturday
I completely agree with the Afternoon test preference, unfortunately afternoons aren’t prime time and will take a hit in the ratings and reduce the appeal of the TV rights.
June 25th 2012 @ 8:43am
Gavin Norman said | June 25th 2012 @ 8:43am | Report comment
The last test against England was only 44k at ANZ. Perfect for the SFS.
I believe a similar tactic should be adopted in Melbourne.
Boks, NZ, England at Etihad (cringe). Everyone else at AAMI Park.
June 25th 2012 @ 10:16am
Justin2 said | June 25th 2012 @ 10:16am | Report comment
NZ at the G, Boks at EH and maybe England. The rest at AP, what a great little ground it is.
June 25th 2012 @ 10:43am
Brett McKay said | June 25th 2012 @ 10:43am | Report comment
Christo, capacity is 45500, so Saturday was only 2600 plus or minus shy of that. It was an excellent crowd, one that should celebrated.
That said, before we consider the case for afternoon rugby closed, an afternoon Test will HAVE to be played at Homebush before an conclusions can be drawn. Yes people love afternoon rugby, there’s plenty of evidence of that. But if an afternoon Test at Homebush drew 60 or 70K people next June, you certainly couldn’t just dismiss it…
June 25th 2012 @ 7:32am
Darwin Stubbie said | June 25th 2012 @ 7:32am | Report comment
The problem is the man in the stand doesn’t matter anymore … It’s about $ and TV revenue plays the tune to which footballing codes dance …. AFL to their credit hold on to a day time GF – but rugby can’t command that sort of respect … I’ll be surprised if the ABs play at Ellis Park too much longer …. Given you can get 90,000+ at soccer city
June 25th 2012 @ 7:33am
Rough Conduct said | June 25th 2012 @ 7:33am | Report comment
Could not agree more Lordy, great article, afternoon scheduling facillitates a great rugby experience for fans and is an absolute must for at least some test matches each season. Not sure about Saturdays though, could not help but think of all the amateur rugby players and volunteers that may not have been able to go, or was club rugby put on hold for the weekend? Sunday afternoon would seem the best fit, all the benefits of Saturdays game but with club rugby people being able to attend or view on TV, surely the TV ratings would be better for a Sunday afternoon also?
June 25th 2012 @ 9:46am
TimB said | June 25th 2012 @ 9:46am | Report comment
The Shute Shield schedule was changed to ensure that all players could either get to the game or at least watch it.
June 25th 2012 @ 7:53am
RFFU said | June 25th 2012 @ 7:53am | Report comment
A big crowd, the brightness of daylight and a dry track also makes for better watching on TV Lordy.
June 25th 2012 @ 10:40am
Christo the Daddyo said | June 25th 2012 @ 10:40am | Report comment
Allianz is not good afternoon TV viewing due to roof design. At least, not a sunny day.
June 25th 2012 @ 1:42pm
jeznez said | June 25th 2012 @ 1:42pm | Report comment
agree with CtD on the telecast quality – at least for the first half the TV struggled with the bright and shaded sections of the pitch. Am definitely a supporter of more day time rugby though.
June 25th 2012 @ 8:45am
Gavin Norman said | June 25th 2012 @ 8:45am | Report comment
On the back of this game, I think the test against France in 2014, here in Melbourne, should be played as a Sunday afternoon game at AAMI Park.
June 25th 2012 @ 8:59am
Dasher said | June 25th 2012 @ 8:59am | Report comment
It’s the same sentiment up here for Reds games at Suncor … err I mean Lang Park. There is such a better atmosphere in the afternoon.
June 25th 2012 @ 9:07am
Johnno said | June 25th 2012 @ 9:07am | Report comment
Great energy , now lets go the full monty and renovate Ballymore. bring back rugby tests to Ballymore.
I want an All black-wallaby rugby championship test at Ballymore.
June 25th 2012 @ 9:43am
Gavin Norman said | June 25th 2012 @ 9:43am | Report comment
Unfortunately that will never happen.
30k members at a 20k stadium, which isn’t an all-seater. Mind you I love a terrace, it’s how I enjoy most sports (football & rugby in particular). If they introduced concrete & some structure to the hill, it would be a hit. Look at the Shed at Perth Oval.
June 25th 2012 @ 5:57pm
Football United said | June 25th 2012 @ 5:57pm | Report comment
ballymore truly is the dogs balls. will never host a national team again but would be rocking if the reds ever went back there.
June 25th 2012 @ 9:08am
Tigranes said | June 25th 2012 @ 9:08am | Report comment
Yes please
as someone who just became a parent, I would be less likely to take my son to a night time game at ANZ than Allianz.