Is the Gold Coast a fickle sporting market?
By matchu, 25 Jun 2012 matchu is a Roar Rookie
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With the Titans’ well publicised troubles, Gold Coast United folding under crowd pressures, and the Suns’ inability to draw a crowd (and/or win a game), the question must be asked “is the Gold Coast a fickle sporting market?”
To answer the question you must look into the history of professional sport on the Gold Coast.
In 1986 the Victorian Football League began expansion of their league by adding Brisbane and Perth based teams. The Brisbane football club, known as the Brisbane Bears, were not able to find a ground suitable for their needs in Brisbane.
The result would be a new oval-shaped ground based on the Gold Coast, known as Carrara Stadium which would become the Bears first home ground.
On 19 April, 1987 the first ever professional sporting event on the Gold Coast occurred at Carrara Stadium. The game attracted a sell-out crowd of 17,795 fans to the new stadium and was deemed a success. The crowd figure still holds the tenth highest attendance record at Carrara Stadium. Although the Brisbane Bears only achieved a 6-16 win-loss record in the 1987 VFL season the Victorian Football League were pleased with their Queensland expansion teams progress.
The success of a team based on the Gold Coast would flow through to other sports when just one year later the New South Wales Rugby League started their own football club named the Gold Coast-Tweed Giants. The Giants chose to play their home games at Seagulls Stadium based in Tweed Heads, New South Wales.
Although not officially playing home games on the Gold Coast, Seagulls Stadium is located five minutes from the Queensland-New South Wales border and considered by many to be a part of the Gold Coast, which was reflected with the hyphenated name of the franchise.
The Giants’ debut NSWRL home game was a stark contrast to the Bears’ first home game just a year before. The game attracted an audience of just 5,280 against the Canterbury Bulldogs, one of the most popular Sydney-based teams in Queensland. Although home attendances during the 1988 NSWRL were poor, on 8th May, 1988, Seagulls Stadium would pull a sell-out crowd of 13,423 in a game which saw the Giants triumph over cross city rivals the Brisbane Broncos in the first time a Gold Coast team had played a Brisbane team in a professional league.
In 1989 the Australian Baseball League announced the start of a Baseball franchise based out of Carrara Stadium named the Gold Coast Clippers. The Clippers would finish their debut season in 1989-90 before changing their name to the Daikyo Dolphins due to sponsorship and moving home games to Palm Meadows, another baseball field also based on the Gold Coast. In 1990 the National Basketball League decided to also start a team on the Gold Coast who were named the Gold Coast Cougars and were based out of the Carrara Indoor Stadium, located next to Carrara Stadium.
The continuation of poor attendance figures in the 1989 NSWRL season would result in the Tweed Seagulls Leagues Club purchase of the Giants franchise. The club’s name would change to the Gold Coast Seagulls and jersey colours were changed accordingly. For the first time in Australian sporting history a franchise would train and play home games outside of the city they were named after.
After finishing second last it was announced at the end of the 1990 season that Queensland great Wally Lewis would be joining the Seagulls. Excitement surrounding the decision quickly vanished as the Seagulls picked up the wooden spoon in the 1991 NSWRL season.
Following a wooden spoon season for the Seagulls and a second consecutive wooden spoon for the Bears, the Daikyo Dolphins proved the Gold Coast wasn’t a joke when it came to sports as they picked up the Gold Coast’s first ever national competition championship in any sport during the 1991-92 ABL season.
At the conclusion of the 1992 NSWRL season, the Seagulls would walk away with their second consecutive wooden spoon while the Bears’ second last placing prompted a permanent move north to Brisbane. The Bears’ leaving the Gold Coast was the first time a sporting team either relocated from the Gold Coast or folded. Changes continued to sporting teams on the Gold Coast as the Cougars were re-branded to the Gold Coast Rollers at the beginning of the 1992 NBL season.
Now with three national competitions sporting teams based on the Gold Coast (Seagulls, Dolphins and Rollers) the 1993 season saw the Seagulls pick up their third consecutive wooden spoon while the Dolphins rebranded to the Gold Coast Cougars and moved back to Carrara Stadium. Following two years of no success for any sport teams based on the Gold Coast, the Seagulls officially folded at the end of the 1995 season.
Following the folding of the Seagulls franchise the ARL announced a third rugby league team would be created on the Gold Coast, to be named the Gold Coast Chargers and to play out of Carrara Stadium. The newly created Chargers would finish the 1996 ARL season in 18th place out of 20 while the Rollers team folded following the 1996 NBL season.
At the beginning of the 1997 seasons the Gold Coast had just two sporting franchises left in the Chargers and the Cougars. Following the 1998 National rugby league season in which the Chargers finished second last they would follow the lead of other teams before them officially fold in December. Now, with just one professional sporting team based on the Gold Coast, the Cougars would go out with a bang and win the 1998-99 ABL season. This clinched the Gold Coast’s second ever national competition championship.
Although the Gold Coast Cougars won the 1998-99 ABL championship, the Australian Baseball League officially disbanded in 1999 and brought an end to professional sport on the Gold Coast. The beginning of the new millennium had seen the Gold Coast go through nine different sporting brands with nothing but memories to show for it. The teams in order of creation were: Bears, Giants, Clippers, Dolphins, Cougars (Basketball), Seagulls, Rollers, Cougars (Baseball) and Chargers.
After a six year hiatus of professional sport on the Gold Coast it was announced on 27 May, 2005 that a fourth attempt at a Gold Coast-based rugby league team would be admitted into the NRL. The new team would be named the Gold Coast Titans and would play home games out of the new 27,000 seat stadium in Robina. The Titans entered the NRL in 2007 and played their first season home games at Carrara Stadium. The Titans enjoyed high crowd attendances which caught the eye of other sporting bodies.
The National Basketball League announced that in the 2007-08 season a Gold Coast team would enter the competition to be known as the Gold Coast Blaze and be based out of the Gold Coast Convention and Exhibition Centre. At the end of 2007 the Australian Rugby Championship announced the formation of a Gold Coast-based rugby union team to be named the East Coast Aces who would enter the competition in 2008 and be based out of Carrara Stadium.
In 2008 it was also announced the semi-professional Ice Hockey team in the Australian Ice Hockey League, Brisbane Bluetongues, would be moving to the Gold Coast. The relocated team would be known as the Gold Coast Bluetongues and would play home games at Iceland Bundall.
In March, 2008 the Australian Football League announced a Gold Coast-based team named the Gold Coast Suns would entered the competition in 2011 and would play home games out of the redeveloped Carrara Stadium. On June 3, 2008 the A-League announced a Gold Coast team would be joining the A-League in the 2009-10 season. They would be named Gold Coast United and would play home games out of Robina Stadium. Following their first season in the Australian Rugby Championship the East Coast Aces folded.
In March 2012 it was revealed that the Gold Coast Titans were in $25 million debt. A month later the A-League announced Gold Coast United would not be continuing in the A-League beyond the 2011-12 season. In May 2012 it was announced the Gold Coast Blaze had entered voluntary administration and were $12 million in debt.
If you have managed to make it this far in the article it’s not hard to see the trend that has occurred on the Gold Coast in regards to sport. Once a sporting code starts a team in the city everyone else jumps in like vultures without fully understanding the landscape of the market.
The truth of the matter is that the Gold Coast public’s occasional interest in sport coupled with the small population does not allow for several professional teams to be based in the one city.
Of the 19 years the Gold Coast have had at least one professional sporting team based in the city they have picked up two championships. The official count of re-brands, relocations and folds on the Gold Coast is eleven while there is currently three professional teams and one semi-professional team based on the Gold Coast. One would be hard pressed to believe all four of those teams will survive long term, based on the history of this brutal sporting market.
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June 25th 2012 @ 7:29am
Rodney McDonell said | June 25th 2012 @ 7:29am | Report comment
Yup, you’d have to say some of them wont be around. It’s also tempting to say one to go will be either the Suns or the Titans – but neither the AFL or NRL will let that happen.
June 25th 2012 @ 7:40am
Football United said | June 25th 2012 @ 7:40am | Report comment
Gold Coast is where sports go to die. They’ve also managed to ruin the sevens and i was livid when i saw the Rugby Championship fixture against Argentina is set to be placed in Robina ahead of much more deserving cities.
June 25th 2012 @ 8:39am
Bondy said | June 25th 2012 @ 8:39am | Report comment
Newcastle or Gosford with the sevens.
June 25th 2012 @ 8:12am
cliffclavin said | June 25th 2012 @ 8:12am | Report comment
Football not really given a chance with Clive. Perhaps start again in 7-8 years time. After working there for the past month, it still feels it is a town where people have moved to rather than a long history of connection to a place – like Newcastle (similar size city).
AFL seems to be well supported in the media – more than the Titans, so money and committment may win out there.
Given another 20 years and I think it could support all 3 codes well enough.
June 25th 2012 @ 9:54am
mushi said | June 25th 2012 @ 9:54am | Report comment
to be fair the titan’s are dying because of their chairman’s misrepresentation of the business
June 25th 2012 @ 10:02am
aflhype said | June 25th 2012 @ 10:02am | Report comment
All it does it take fans from brisbane to gold coast, especially if you are not the number 1 code. It happened to the brisbane roar and is happening to Brisbane Lions (2012 – Lions crowds are 20,491 and GCS – 12,775 avg (19,775 in 2011), in 2010 Brisbane averaged 29,933). It will be interesting to see any affect on the Brisbance Roar crowds now GCU is gone this season. Also Gold Coast is not thriving as it once was and this has a impact. Plus competing for sponsors and media space.
Plus all the expanision for more TV dollars is just creating more average teams and average games – the AFL total aggregate after 13 rounds and 108 games in 2012 is 3,486,815 and in 2011 after 13 rounds and 101 gmes was 3,640,889. Average crowds are down 8% this year with GWS following the GCS entry last year when they dropped 5.8%. Can all these teams be sustained and is the talent available? You can pump all you want into these clubs but when 2 games in Melbourne yesterday barely drew 20k each you have to wonder if all the focus on these expansion teams is worth it. History shows it is a long and costly exercise to sustain all expansion clubs into non heartland territories.
June 25th 2012 @ 11:25am
Australian Rules said | June 25th 2012 @ 11:25am | Report comment
I’m a little surprised at the headline…I think the entire country knows that the Gold Coast is a fickle sporting market.
The Suns’ poor on-field form will surely test the already-fickle locals – but one advantage they have is that they are a well-run club and will commit wholeheartedly to the region for 20+ years. The Suns are not going anywhere.
In terms of your suggestion that new teams are diluting the AFL competition, I think everybody understands that is a natural, short-term consequence of the longer plan. The same was said of the 4th and 5th Super rugby team – but I don’t think anyone would argue that the TriNations is not better for having teams in Perth and Melbourne.
Pointing to AFL crowds in Melbourne is a bit off.
Yesterday the bottom team played the second-bottom team in 12 degree weather…and got over 20,000.
On Saturday, the Bulldogs (one of the smallest drawing clubs) played an average interstate team and still got over 20,000.
The Saturday night game drew 62,000.
I think any other code would kill for these numbers in the same circumstances.
June 25th 2012 @ 10:21am
KiwiDave said | June 25th 2012 @ 10:21am | Report comment
Gold Coast doesnt have the population base to maintain a number of national teams. Its a very small market to try and split between AFL, NRL, Soccer and whatever other sport. Take a look at Townsville. Basically same population base but the North Queensland Cowboys are doing well up there. Why? Because they are the only show in town. If they had to scrap with the soccer and AFL for crowds it could be different. Personally the AFL should have put the Gold Coast team in Tasmania. Its a huge gamble shoving it up on the Gold Coast and competing with the other two large sport franchises, when in Tasmania they would have a monopoly. The Gold Coast is just a pissing contest between the NRL and the AFL and both will be to stubborn to accept failure.
June 25th 2012 @ 10:56am
GCS said | June 25th 2012 @ 10:56am | Report comment
Gold Coast has about 3 times Townsville’s population, so not sure about that comparison. Let’s judge the Gold Coast Suns after about 5 years. Having average attendances of just under 13,000 for a team that hasn’t won a game this year isn’t that bad.
The plus side about the Suns starting up here is the growth in junior numbers. The club I’m involved with now have multiple teams in most age groups and have had to turn kids away.
June 25th 2012 @ 11:57am
KiwiDave said | June 25th 2012 @ 11:57am | Report comment
The immediate area does but Townsville absorbs all the other local towns as well like Mackay and Cairns to boost its numbers to around that of the Gold Coast in population base to work off. Its far easier to grow when you are the only show in town.
If the AFL gave Tasmania the franchise over the Gold Coast they would be looking at an island of 500,000 people who would get behind their team 100% and be the one strong dominant sport. Instead they gambled with the Suns in a fickle NRL dominated market where a bunch of sport are competing for a small market share.
June 25th 2012 @ 12:21pm
GCS said | June 25th 2012 @ 12:21pm | Report comment
It’s a fair old hike from Cairns to Townsville, so not sure how much of the Cowboys attendance comes from there, but I guess they would support them in other ways.
Tassie are unlucky at the moment, but I still think they have made the right move in putting a team on the Gold Coast. They need to grow the game in SE QLD and this was the best way to do it.
June 25th 2012 @ 12:41pm
clipper said | June 25th 2012 @ 12:41pm | Report comment
KiwiDave – as other Aussie Rules posters have noted, the trouble with Tasmania is that there is a huge North / South divide and until that problem is solved (if it ever is) then you’re only looking at half of the 500k population. The other aspect is Tasmania is a very strong Aussie Rules state, so you’re not going to have much growth by putting a team there – it’s unlikely they will follow another sport, although they do follow soccer.
CCS – a side effect of a new team may be that the existing competition infrastructure is unprepared for a sudden influx of new players and might take some time to adapt – which is a pity when you can’t fully take advantage of the increased interest. Hopefully those kids will have found another team or will try again.
June 25th 2012 @ 1:05pm
KiwiDave said | June 25th 2012 @ 1:05pm | Report comment
The North South thing can easily be fixed by playing half your games in Hobart and half in Launceston.
June 26th 2012 @ 7:43pm
Pecs McGee said | June 26th 2012 @ 7:43pm | Report comment
Unfortunately the Tasmanian government has helped to cement the N/S divide by sponsoring the Hawks to play in Launnie and the Roos playing in Hobart.
June 26th 2012 @ 7:31pm
Ted Skinner said | June 26th 2012 @ 7:31pm | Report comment
GCS
Do you honestly believe the crowd numbers are accurate that the Suns are posting?
How are their TV Rating going?
June 27th 2012 @ 5:54am
Norm said | June 27th 2012 @ 5:54am | Report comment
Ted……you are not the 1st soccer/NRL blogger to make that comment. The fact is that the AFL always attracts larger crowds than NRL & it is no different with the Suns & Giants, even tho they are brand new clubs. There are reasons for this, which I am sure you can guess at!
June 25th 2012 @ 10:37am
craig said | June 25th 2012 @ 10:37am | Report comment
1st and foremost try taking a family to any of these games.Titans prizes are absolutely ridiculous and Suns not much better.Tickets to the Blaze are probably most reasonable but the cost of parking ahs double in a few yrs.I know its a business but offer cheap family deals and families will come.A lot of those that have failed and continue to have tried to grow to be big.Look at the Titans.Start at the grass roots and establish a core supporter base over at least a 5 yr period before you try and grow.Get out to the schools meet the kids they are the fans of the future.Dont try and do what Searle has done entrench yourself first
June 25th 2012 @ 11:37am
Australian Rules said | June 25th 2012 @ 11:37am | Report comment
Ticket prices start at:
Titans
$27 Adult – $79 Family of 4
Suns
$22 Adult – $49 Family of 4
I’m usually critical of people that blame ticket prices at sporting events, but considering you can get a Broncos family ticket for $40, the Titans really need to make it more attractive for families.
June 25th 2012 @ 4:02pm
Jerome said | June 25th 2012 @ 4:02pm | Report comment
Trouble is, rent at Skilled Park is quite high – per attendee it would be higher than Suncorp! It was one of Clive’s bugbears when he had GCU.
June 25th 2012 @ 4:57pm
Australian Rules said | June 25th 2012 @ 4:57pm | Report comment
That’s what can happen when you ask the government to fund every single cent for the stadium…they off-load it to a private company which charges huge amounts to recover the costs of the purchase.
June 25th 2012 @ 11:04am
Geoff said | June 25th 2012 @ 11:04am | Report comment
GC is 400k vs TSV 185k – Cowboys are doing ok because of the majority fan base outside of TSV – over half the crowd is from Cairns and Mackay and towns in between. If Mackay gets an NRL license (unlikely given the small population base but they have big sponsors for coal / LNG) watch the cowboys start sucking up to Cairns.
Dont mention the crocs – classic example of a town sick of being ignored and bad mouthed by the crocs ceo for being losers ? GC has a large transient population with no grass roots connection to sporting clubs – until you have that its all going to fail
June 25th 2012 @ 11:31am
Roarsome said | June 25th 2012 @ 11:31am | Report comment
Don’t forget culture and the arts, politics and business. They’re all pretty fickle on the coast too.
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June 25th 2012 @ 11:35am
swannies05 said | June 25th 2012 @ 11:35am | Report comment
Very informative article matchu. You mske some good points in there as well. Would love to know if any other city in the world had gone through so many franchises in such a short amount of time.
I loved Football United’s comment as well, “Gold Coast is where sports go to die”. Quality chat!!