Swans and Cats will only provide nuisance value in September
By Cameron Rose, 25 Jun 2012 Cameron Rose is a Roar Expert
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Sydney Swans and Geelong compete at the SCG (Slattery Images)
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We entered round 13 with premiership chances being given to many teams and the oft-quoted ‘most even season in recent memory’. After watching the Sydney-Geelong game at the SCG on Friday night, we can confidently cross both teams off that list.
The Swans burst out of the blocks with a scintillating seven goal opening quarter against a Geelong outfit containing more purring kittens than ferocious Cats. But as has been their way this year, they once more fell asleep at the wheel, being comfortably outplayed for the last three quarters, and were lucky to escape with a six point victory.
Sydney’s best is as good as any team when on song. When in full flight, Josh Kennedy, Jude Bolton and Keiran Jack dominate in tight, winning multiple clearances in a row, Lewis Jetta sizzles on the outside, and they hit the scoreboard quickly with a spread of goalkickers the envy of most, a league-high eight players having topped double figures so far this year.
But when the Swans aren’t getting the game played on their terms they are staggering vulnerable, and very quickly revert back to the stodgy Sydney of old. As Tom Hawkins showed on Friday night, Heath Grundy, Alex Johnson and Ted Richards can be ill-equipped to handle power forwards getting quick supply.
And what Lewis Roberts-Thompson is doing in the side as a forward is a question for Solomon, especially when he is not acting as the second ruck. There has to be more to getting a game than simply being a good bloke and great club man.
In fact, despite sitting second on the ladder and being something of media darling who love ‘rating’ an ‘underrated’ team, Sydney have won all four quarters in a match only twice this year, with those being against the lowly GWS and Melbourne.
And despite being the most miserly defensive team in 2012, on ten occasions they’ve let through five goals or more in a quarter. Richmond and St Kilda, in particular, made them look extremely ordinary for long periods in dominant victories, and neither of these sides will be finishing in the upper echelons of the ladder.
What the win over Geelong did for Sydney was lock in a home final of some description. But, unfortunately for their supporters, they’ve proven they can’t play consistent football for an entire game. This will be costly in September, and they’ll come unstuck at the pointy end.
Football fans have been waiting for the Geelong empire to crumble, many for long enough to start penning a sequel to Samuel Beckett’s Waiting for Godot.
While I’m not convinced that the empire is crumbling, Geelong won’t be making the top four, and from what we’ve seen this year, couldn’t possibly win the four finals in a row against quality opposition that they’ll need to in order to hold aloft the premiership cup once more.
The Cats are now at least two wins and over twenty percent behind all sides currently holding the top-four positions, with fixtures still to come against Collingwood, Essendon, Adelaide, Hawthorn, West Coast, and Sydney again in their remaining ten games – the top six teams on the ladder.
Geelong are clearly struggling, and in truth have done so all year, with most of their matches following the same formula. They have been outplayed early by an opposition that is harder around the contest, but have gathered themselves and clawed their way back. Ultimately, they’ve either won through courage, class and experience, or just failed to get there against an opposition eager to claim the scalp of the reigning premier.
Consider the Cats record in eight matches against teams currently ranked 12th or higher on the ladder – only twice this year have they been up at quarter time, only once at half time, and only once again at three quarter time. Take out the round four win over Richmond, where they led at every change, and these statistics paint an even bleaker picture.
Their overall record against these teams is 3-5, yet more evidence of a team that won’t be figuring at the business end of the year.
Plenty wrote off Geelong at the start of 2011, only to end up with egg on their face when the Cats claimed the flag.
Because of this, no one wants to make the same mistake halfway through this year. Fear not, because the Cats, just like they were against the Swans, have been too poor early, and have found themselves too far back with too much to do.
Sydney and Geelong fought an engrossing contest on Friday night at the SCG, and each displayed enough reasons to show why they are rated as dangerous contenders.
But for mine, the negatives of both were starkly apparent too, and while both teams might win a final, or perhaps even two, they’ll have no business on the same stage as the likes of Collingwood and West Coast on the last Saturday in September.
Cameron Rose is a born and bred Melbournian, raised on a regime of AFL, cricket and horse racing. He likes people who agree with him but loves those that don't, for in his mind there is nothing better than a roaring debate. He tweets from @camtherose.
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June 25th 2012 @ 7:13am
Christo the Daddyo said | June 25th 2012 @ 7:13am | Report comment
I’m not sure I would “comfortably” cross the Swans off the premiership possibilities. At this stage of the game it looks like Collingwood and West Coast, but the Swans aren’t far off. All it will take is for the team to put together four quarters of good football and they will beat anyone – and you’ve effectively admitted that.
June 26th 2012 @ 9:51am
me, I like football said | June 26th 2012 @ 9:51am | Report comment
If the swans are not far off it neither are Geelong who only lost by a goal at the SCG.
June 25th 2012 @ 7:56am
D.Large said | June 25th 2012 @ 7:56am | Report comment
Can understand the logic against Sydney, for mine they are with Adelaide & Essendon as 4th, 5th & 6th team behind Coll, WC and the Hawks. As Cam pointed out, the Swans best is as good as anyone’s, but this only occurs when the game is on their terms. When they are 5 or 10% off, the scoreboard can get ugly quickly. I think Cam’s gone a little soft with his Cats opinion, the empire HAS crumbled and anyone who knows their football can tell their out of premiership contention for a couple of years. However it will probably only be a couple of years.
June 25th 2012 @ 8:35am
Cameron Rose said | June 25th 2012 @ 8:35am | Report comment
D – When I think of an empire ‘crumbling’, I guess I think of a fall from grace into the lower reaches of the ladder, followed by a few years in the wilderness, which I don’t think the Cats are on the precipice of. ie – Sydney hasn’t really ‘crumbled’ since their win in 2005 and are threatening once more.
June 25th 2012 @ 8:39am
Swampy said | June 25th 2012 @ 8:39am | Report comment
Don’t count out the Swans. They play finals style footy all season long. There is a reason they always seem to run it close in the finals. This year their cattle is better.
What is apparent with the Swans is that with Adam Goodes playing they can beat anyone. Without him (as in the 4th qtr) they are more a 6th to 8th team.
Firm up Collingwood and West Coast as your Grand Finalists at your peril. This is an open a season as any. Even Carlton, languishing away in the bottom half, could turn it around.
Could you imagine the Tiger’s momentum if they won 3 or 4 in a row at the end to make it into the finals in 7th or 8th and then won their first game – who would write them off in week 2?
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June 25th 2012 @ 9:08am
Rob said | June 25th 2012 @ 9:08am | Report comment
Quality article, agree on the Swans, just can’t see them matching it with the best in finals with 3 wins to win the flag, still a year short for mine. Although i guess they have had no Mumford and no Goodes for a chunk of the year which is testament to some of their performances.
After watching Syd v Geel, Coll v WC and Freo v Ess, it was like watching a different sport watching GWS and Melbourne yesterday, as the article points out correctly, beating them in all four quarters says absolutely nothing.
June 25th 2012 @ 9:26am
Poohdini said | June 25th 2012 @ 9:26am | Report comment
The race for the flag is not as close as some may think. That will become more apparent in the coming weeks. Geelong, Hawthorn & Carlton are sitting out of the top 4 after 12 rounds for a reason. A team that has long lapses will not win a flag.
Poohdini Out!
June 25th 2012 @ 9:50am
wisey_9 said | June 25th 2012 @ 9:50am | Report comment
The encouraging thing for Swans fans is that we are sitting 2nd on the ladder, and haven’t had a game this year in which both Goodes and Mumford (arguably our two best players) have been fit and firing.
I would agree that we are a step behind WC and Collingwood – and Hawthorn when they turn up. But all the signs are good – the Swans are certainly on an upwards trend!
June 25th 2012 @ 10:48am
Cameron Rose said | June 25th 2012 @ 10:48am | Report comment
Yep, there are definitely reasons to be positive, and the Swans will certainly be a huge threat in 2013 with (hopefully) a full season from Mumford and if that is the season that Sam Reid becomes a superstar (many were hoping/thinking it would be this year, but it seems like it won’t be). Will still have a great season this year, but they just don’t have all the tools yet to dismantle the two best sides.
June 25th 2012 @ 10:06am
Lroy said | June 25th 2012 @ 10:06am | Report comment
Not sure I agree with all of this. They (Swans)kicked a lot of goals against the Bombers and held on too win, have beaten a couple of good sides so far. Geelong are still the reigning premiers, you cant pooh pooh any win over them.
I think the Swans are the dark horse of the comp. Pies have the best midfield by a country mile, but Swans WCE and Bombers are all pretty close IMO.
The Crows are probably the top side with a few question marks now… there seems to be a big gap between their best and worst performances… but who knows, I think they have a pretty easy run home, so they probably will get one of the top 4 spots.
June 25th 2012 @ 10:08am
swannies05 said | June 25th 2012 @ 10:08am | Report comment
“As Tom Hawkins showed on Friday night, Heath Grundy, Alex Johnson and Ted Richards can be ill-equipped to handle power forwards getting quick supply.”
Any defender can be ill-equipped when power forwards get quick supply, it is called good football and is the goal of all teams to do this.
“And despite being the most miserly defensive team in 2012, on ten occasions they’ve let through five goals or more in a quarter.”
Football goes for 4 quarters, not one. The Swans have the second best percentage in the competition. Being a Swans fan I couldn’t care if we conceded 10 in a quarter as long as we win.
With a comparatively easy next 5-6 rounds coming up, the Swans premiership credentials will be given their true test against the Pies in Round 20. I can’t even remember the last time we took down the Black and White Army, so if we can take the big W away from that game I will start thinking we might have a crack at the end of September.
My tip for the GF is still Geelong v West Coast, but hopefully I’m wrong and the Bloods can pull off somethign special. As long as it isn’t those bloody Pies I’ll be a happy man.
June 25th 2012 @ 10:55am
Cameron Rose said | June 25th 2012 @ 10:55am | Report comment
Sydney haven’t faced West Coast or Collingwood yet, both of which are well equipped with power forwards (i’m not counting Dawes in that, but Cloke is worth two anyway), and midfields of enough quality and depth to ensure consistent supply.
We know how difficult a time the Swans have defeating the Pies, and I think the Eagles are perfectly structured to beat Sydney’s strengths and expose their weaknesses.
This is not to deride Sydney’s abilities, let’s face it, they’re better than at least 12-13 other teams, I just reckon they’re not seasoned enough yet to win the flag this year.
You can get $51 with the Tab on a Geel/WC grand final, so make sure you have something on it in case you’re right!
June 25th 2012 @ 10:20am
Matt F said | June 25th 2012 @ 10:20am | Report comment
It’s probably a bit too early to write off the Swans just yet. Certainly Collingwood and West Coast are the benchmarks so far this season, but the Swans have’t played either of them yet. Those matches will show exactly where the Swans are. Of the 4 teams chasing those two (Swans, Bombers, Crows and Hawks) you could make a strong argument that the Swans are currently the “best of the rest.”
Geelong are probably too far away now to launch a serious crack at the flag. Their premiership window does appear to have closed after a very succesful period. We know how difficult it is to win the competition from outside the Top 4, which they won’t reach, and with the number of non-victorian teams in and around the Top 4 Geelong will probably need to win at least one final outside of Victoria.
June 25th 2012 @ 10:42am
Cameron Rose said | June 25th 2012 @ 10:42am | Report comment
Matt,
While everyone is saying that this is the most even year in memory, and on face value it appears that it might be, I reckon every week that passes actually widens the gap between Collingwood, West Coast and the rest.
Certainly whichever team is the fittest and in the best form in September will have a chance to go all the way, but they’ll need a bad day or two from the Pies or Eagles to do so.