Australian Super Rugby front row review
By jeznez, 28 Jun 2012 jeznez is a Roar Guru
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When Al Baxter and Matt Dunning played for the Wallabies, our scrum was an international laughing stock. It hurts but it is true.
At that time there were few alternatives, the Waratahs had the strongest scrum in Australia by a huge margin and no one else was knocking on the door for selection.
You cannot fault the players who are the best in their position in the country for not matching it with the best from elsewhere. Rather, the underlying structures needed to be reviewed to see why stronger alternatives are not being produced.
Currently we have some very obvious options in Dan Palmer, Sitaleki Timani and Kane Douglas who can improve the Wallaby scrum if they join Benn Robinson, Sekope Kepu, Tatafu Polota-Nau and Stephen Moore.
Beyond this group the likes of James Slipper, Ben Alexander and Rob Simmons are involved in the national side and are showing some of the same issues this year that we have seen in previous years. Right this minute, they look unlikely to significantly strengthen the Wallaby scrum.
Slipper and Simmons in particular are very young for tight forwards and along with the likes of Luke Jones, Caderyn Neville and Hugh Pyle look likely to develop in the coming years.
While there are a large range of second rowers coming through, where are the other props? When I look at Australia’s Super Rugby sides, there are concentrations of props meaning players are played out of position.
Let’s review each Super squad.
The Reds:
The Reds have too many looseheads and no genuine tightheads.
James Slipper is the main tighthead but his best ever scrummaging performance was a 2010 performance at loosehead where he held the Wallaby scrum together against Martin Castrogiovanni.
Slipper would benefit from being in a Super squad where he could play loosehead more often. It was rather unfair to switch him across against Scotland when he hadn’t had recent LHP match time.
Greg Holmes is the only real Wallaby contender for LHP, behind Benn Robinson. He has also been switching over and playing THP for the Reds but in my mind is an out and out LHP. I’m baffled why Deans did not bring him into the current Wallaby squad.
Ben Daley is a LHP but needs to improve his scrummaging significantly if he desires to make the Wallabies again.
The Reds three main props are all looseheads, with one playing out of position. Slipper is a prodigious talent performing at a high level, about eight years earlier than most props hit their peak. I’m concerned that we won’t see the best of him unless he is given an extended period at LHP and that is unlikely to occur with the makeup of the current Reds squad.
The Brumbies:
Here we have the opposite issue at the Brumbies, with an abundance of tightheads cruelling each other’s opportunities.
Dan Palmer is the Wallaby heir apparent at THP and in his second year as a starter he is putting together some impressive performances for the Brumbies and now the Wallabies. He is suffering from having a light second rower behind him but his technique is shining through. He is one of our success stories – he was getting ignored on the bench at the Waratahs and he has moved and now seen higher honours.
Ben Alexander is the current problem child of the Wallabies. He was part of the scrum penalty at the end of the Scotland game at THP. Alexander was on the other side at LHP in the Wales disintegration this weekend. He plays predominantly as a LHP at the Brumbies only moving to THP when Palmer subs off.
Alexander’s best scrummaging performances were at THP on the northern tour of 2009. He hadn’t had a great Tri-Nations despite being stronger than Baxter who he replaced in that series. During the break between the domestic and northern internationals, he adjusted his foot position forward by about six inches and subsequently scrummed the house down.
Since then Alexander has had limited opportunities at THP. Given Palmer has the starting spot at the Brumbies sewn up, perhaps Alexander and Slipper should look at a swap? Or maybe Holmes should swap with Alexander with the understanding that Alexander would go to THP for the Reds?
This would mean Palmer would play more minutes and his fitness would have to improve while allowing Alexander to see if he can find that 2009 scrummaging form again. Whichever players swapped, Slipper would get more time at LHP to see if he can find his scrummaging form.
Ruaidhri Murphy is the other prop at the Brumbies. He is a developing loosehead and coming on nicely off the bench in his first year and looks promising.
The Waratahs:
In Sydney it is different situation. Benn Robinson and Sekope Kepu are two of the first picked props in the Wallabies. Each has a very able understudy who isn’t getting enough game time.
Jeremy Tilse has been in the Waratahs system for five years. I’ve not seen any radical improvement in the last two. He is a good young prop who at 26 is about to enter his prime. Indeed, this season he has gone backwards as he has developed a movement of his left foot on impact which is weakening his hit and leaving his feet too far forward.
Tilse’s best scrummaging performance was two years ago against the Hurricanes where he came off the bench and stopped the damage that Nemia Tialata had been doing to the scrum.
Tilse’s only opportunities come after injury, usually to Robinson, this year to Paddy Ryan. The chance that he overtakes Robinson is currently unlikely and for the good of his rugby he should be looking at another side so he can become a starting player.
Paddy Ryan is younger and was getting some good minutes off the bench as a THP for the Waratahs. Before he got injured his performances looked good enough to earn him a start at another team. Should he continue sitting behind Kepu or should he be looking at moving?
The Waratahs scrum is rightly lauded as the best in Australia and I believe the best in Super Rugby this year. However with a Wallaby hat on, this is partly due to the strength of the bench and may not be in the nation’s best interest.
The Rebels:
The Rebels scrum has been the weakest of the Australian teams this year. Laurie Weekes, Rodney Blake and Nic Henderson have been the main culprits. Jono Owen has joined the side more recently but ultimately I think the solution is the Waratah bench props.
There are a number of young props on their books in Paul Alo-Emile and Eddie Aholelei but I have not seen these young guys play. The mid-season recruitment of Owen suggests that the Rebels coaches don’t feel they are going to be ready soon.
The Waratahs bench props look significantly better than the Rebels starting props. It is hard to gauge the set piece work of the Rebels promising second rowers in Hugh Pyle and Caderyn Neville without seeing them pack down with some other props. Is a real shame there isn’t a Wallabies A team running around to see how this group would perform with different combinations.
The Force:
I think the Force are actually very well balanced in their propping stakes.
Pekahou Cowan has plenty of Wallaby experience and is a very competent prop at Super level. His LHP play is superior to his THP but both are capable.
Salesi Ma’afu has the potential to be a very good THP but ultimately needs to fix his conditioning. Hopefully he spends the off season with Cowan, as Pek (who did the same) turned out for the Force in terrific nick this year.
Kieran Longbottom doesn’t get the plaudits of Slipper and Palmer but is an excellent young prospect and being 26/27 is hitting his prime period. There is a lot of upside to be seen with this young guy as long as he can avoid injuries such as the one he is currently suffering.
Salesi Manu is the Force’s young prop. The injury to Longbottom has seen him have a few runs this year and he certainly looks up to the task.
Sum up:
All in all I think the Reds have too many looseheads and it is ruining Slipper, the Brumbies too many tightheads and Alexander is suffering.
The Waratahs have too much experience on their bench and Tilse and Ryan are being held back because of it, the Rebels have not got strong enough starting props and their entire team is suffering for it.
The Force have the most balanced set of props on their playing roster out of all the squads in the country.
If market forces do not cause these imbalances to square up, then the ARU needs to look at the process. The movement of established stars between franchises has been disruptive recently but even more damaging is players being held back through warehousing or being forced to play out of position.
I think that Australian scrummaging as a whole is suffering as Alexander, Slipper, Tilse and Ryan are not being well served under their current situations.
What do you think Roarers? Shouldn’t the Wallabies be the ultimate priority? Should we have central contracting or a player protection system that prevents warehousing?
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June 28th 2012 @ 9:56am
sixo_clock said | June 28th 2012 @ 9:56am | Report comment
Have you ever considered ending your Singha sex holiday and applying for the job as high performance manager (scrums and drinking imported beer – HPMsdib) for the ARU. A weekly spot on Fox as well would give RodK some help. The makeup department could fix any flaws.
Solid work, great insights. The Brumbies released Jono to help the Rebs so a precedent has been set. However the players are going to have adopt the attitude that their playing future is in their own hands, show some ambition, make a few calls, get the managers talking to each other through the HPMsdib if necessary, who is never at his desk, very strange.
June 28th 2012 @ 10:32am
jeznez said | June 28th 2012 @ 10:32am | Report comment
Sixo, Singha is a Thai beer. Here in Singapore the local drop is Tiger – I usually stick to the Aussie or the Japanese beers though as they come with less of a headache the next morning.
June 28th 2012 @ 10:57am
Tissot Time said | June 28th 2012 @ 10:57am | Report comment
J, are you sure the headache is not a volume dependent issue? Excellent summary
June 28th 2012 @ 11:08am
jeznez said | June 28th 2012 @ 11:08am | Report comment
TT, I’ve done a lot of experimentation in this area – volume has been tested, usually to capacity!
June 28th 2012 @ 9:01pm
SkinnyKid said | June 28th 2012 @ 9:01pm | Report comment
Ok so you dont drink Singha, but he was asking about your sex holiday.
June 28th 2012 @ 9:58am
formeropenside said | June 28th 2012 @ 9:58am | Report comment
No. I cannot stand the thought of a central ARU directing players willy-nilly around Australia. The Reds scrum has held up just fine this season, with Slipper a good THP and Holmes a competent backup THP and excellent LHP. To the extent the Reds need a true THP, Paul Alo-Emile should come home. Hopefully the rumour we are recruiting Tilse is just plain wrong – he’s just another useless New South Welshsham.
Alexander’s problem is largely that he is not much good in terms of technique on either side: he falls over a lot if he does not get a perfect hit (Baxter’s syndrome, although Baxter simultaneously suffered from Zoolander’s disease).
Finally, there is no such thing as “warehousing”. You cant keep a player who does not want to stay. To win a super rugby title, you need depth across your whole squad: ideally you would have all current or previous Wallabies. if the goal is to handicap the Australian teams so they are all equal and finish in spots 6-10 (deemed 3) year in year out, then thats just silly.
June 28th 2012 @ 10:53am
jeznez said | June 28th 2012 @ 10:53am | Report comment
FOS, my goal isn’t to create 5 even teams all finishing mid-table. But I do want the best five players in their positions in the country filling starting spots rather than sitting on the bench.
At LHP in order as scrummagers – I think the best 5 props in the country are:
Benn Robinson
Greg Holmes
James Slipper
Ruaidhri Murphy
Jeremy Tilse.
At THP in order:
Dan Palmer
Sekope Kepu
Paddy Ryan
Kieran Longbottom
Ben Alexander
If all these guys got to start in their positions more regularly I believe they would be better props. Particularly with the extra substitute coming in this year we can worry less about having two sided players and instead pick two specialists in each position in the match day 23.
From my lists only Robinson, Kepu and Palmer are starting every week in their best position. Of the remainder too many players are playing on the wrong side or getting limited game time because the squads are not balanced.
I’m not fully across the NZ model but don’t they have a protection system? I’m interested to hear exactly how the NZ model works as we need to do something the current Pocock situation and the dramas seen this year with Genia and Higginbotham are not good for our game.
June 28th 2012 @ 11:45am
Pogo said | June 28th 2012 @ 11:45am | Report comment
NZ used to have a system where franchises could chose a 24 players from within their area to protect, the remaining players would go into a draft where they could be picked up by any franchise (including their original franchise which didn’t name them in the 24). This worked when all players were contracted centrally to the NZRU and could be shifted between teams.
In practice senior players stayed where they were most of the time and some of the fringe players ended up at a different super team each year.
The NZRU has since moved to franchises contracting individual players on multi year deals, doing away with the protect and draft system.
June 28th 2012 @ 12:26pm
jeznez said | June 28th 2012 @ 12:26pm | Report comment
Thanks Pogo, didn’t realise they’d moved away from it. I guess I have to hope that market forces get the changes to happen. The salary cap in Aus rugby may make this happen.
Ultimately in the Oz system where Link wants to persevere with Slipper at THP and Young wants to persist with Alexander at LHP but the national scrum coaches in Noriega and Blades see them on the other side of the scrum even the salary cap won’t get us onto a single page at national and provincial level.
June 28th 2012 @ 10:09am
Bigbaz said | June 28th 2012 @ 10:09am | Report comment
Great post. You obviously know your prop play but I feel even given your excellent critique much of our prop problems at scrum time come from our locks.
June 28th 2012 @ 11:06am
jeznez said | June 28th 2012 @ 11:06am | Report comment
Baz, I’ve been a big critic of Sharpe’s scrummaging for a long time, Simmons and Mumm have also been part of the problem. Carter at the Brumbies should be at 4 rather than 5.
A similar argument can be made for the second rowers that Horwill, Douglas and Timani are our best three scrummaging locks. The next most likely after them are Lynn and Neville although the jury is still out on them. You’ll note the Brumbies don’t have a name on that list.
There should usually be an aim for balance in the locking department with a scrummager and a lineout man. Sharpe, Simmons, Pyle, Carter and Mumm fill those lineout roles. Two of those will be gone next year so more players are going to have to step up.
June 28th 2012 @ 11:20am
Markus said | June 28th 2012 @ 11:20am | Report comment
Leon Power is probably the best setpiece lock for the Brumbies, but with his workrate being well behind Carter and Fardy at present and Mowen the lineout general, he will only get starting gametime in the absence of one of those three.
June 28th 2012 @ 4:14pm
Brett McKay said | June 28th 2012 @ 4:14pm | Report comment
and given that Fardy is still relatively new to Lock at this level, it probably made more sense to play Carter at 5…
June 28th 2012 @ 9:03pm
SkinnyKid said | June 28th 2012 @ 9:03pm | Report comment
Sharpes work rate around the park seems to kill most other locks…even now at the end of his career.
June 28th 2012 @ 10:19am
kingplaymaker said | June 28th 2012 @ 10:19am | Report comment
Great article.
My contribution is to say that I think in the southern hemisphere where running rugby is king, props are chosen first for their ability in the loose and second as scrummagers, whereas in the north where forward-based kicking rugby rules the reverse is true. This is why the Super teams have good props in the loose who are weak at scrum-time.
June 28th 2012 @ 11:02am
mania said | June 28th 2012 @ 11:02am | Report comment
KPM – i think your comment only applies in aus. NZ. southAfrica and Argentina value their props like gold.
as grizz wylie said when he was AB’s coach “when picking the team you pick the THP first”
June 28th 2012 @ 11:10am
jeznez said | June 28th 2012 @ 11:10am | Report comment
Did he then say that the second player you pick is the reserve THP?
June 28th 2012 @ 12:06pm
mania said | June 28th 2012 @ 12:06pm | Report comment
not sure jeznez. he grunmbled a lot
June 28th 2012 @ 12:16pm
kingplaymaker said | June 28th 2012 @ 12:16pm | Report comment
mania I’m not sure what jeznez thinks of that idea as he has yet to reply to it.
I agree on SA/Argentina. In NZ and Australia though I think it may have some truth.
June 28th 2012 @ 12:19pm
mania said | June 28th 2012 @ 12:19pm | Report comment
KPM – u know i’m a kiwi ?and that i live in NZ? we pride ourselves on having a solid dominant scrum. kiwi’s value running rugby but equally we also understand and value a decent front row, esp the props.
June 28th 2012 @ 12:21pm
kingplaymaker said | June 28th 2012 @ 12:21pm | Report comment
mania sure, but I wonder whether being a good player in the loose or scrummager is the minimum requirement.
June 28th 2012 @ 12:27pm
mania said | June 28th 2012 @ 12:27pm | Report comment
KPM – for a tight5 its more important that they do their roles first than be any good in the lose. any tight5 that doesnt do their core role is dropped regardless of how well they play in the open.
eg isaacRoss was a try scoring lock but would hardly ever put his head in a ruck. isaac made the allBlacks for a season but that just underlined how much tight5 work he didnt do. subsequently he was dropped by the ABs, then the saders, then went to chiefs last year and now he’s in japan, i think.
June 28th 2012 @ 12:30pm
jeznez said | June 28th 2012 @ 12:30pm | Report comment
KP, I think mania is doing an admirable job in response. I think it is actually an Aussie issue and one we need to solve if we are to reach the heights we aspire to.
June 28th 2012 @ 12:34pm
Sam Taulelei said | June 28th 2012 @ 12:34pm | Report comment
KPM
When Graham Henry came in he introduced a new focus on the tight five as well as picking players for their core skills first and their mobility second.
Carl Hayman was his best tighthead prop but he wasn’t the most mobile, agile or skilled ball handler compared to his NZ contemporaries. It didn’t matter.
June 28th 2012 @ 12:36pm
kingplaymaker said | June 28th 2012 @ 12:36pm | Report comment
jeznez possibly in the lineout too, with exceptions. The northern teams always seem somewhere between competent and formidable in these departments, even if they are useless in the loose.
It would probably affect how players progress throughout the age-group stages i.e. a player will move to the next level not on their set-piece work or in spite of it but because of ability in the loose.
Sam looks like the All Blacks have it right then
June 28th 2012 @ 12:37pm
mania said | June 28th 2012 @ 12:37pm | Report comment
i agree jeznez. aus needs to understand the beauty of scummaging
i coach age grade and my front row hate losing a scrum. they’ll do about 30 mins of the scrum machine after a 2 hour training session when most of the other kids have gone home.
props are rare and its not often you come across a kid who 1) loves scrumming and 2) has an innate understanding of it. but when they’re discovered they are gold and always encouraged to stick at it and reach the highest honours, ie the AB’s.
June 28th 2012 @ 2:20pm
jeznez said | June 28th 2012 @ 2:20pm | Report comment
mania, I coach kids as well. Is an academy situation so only get them once a week. During the week some of them are with their own schools and clubs, other kids are coming to the sessions never having played before.
Is a bit tricky as different kids turn up each week so I work on individual technique much more than the neccessary teamwork required for success but am hoping to see the same group there more consistently when our next term starts in August.
One of the kids shows great promise as a prop, nice build and great form on the scrum machine – he also happens to love tackling and is our best number 6/8 (although his lineout is lacking as you can imagine). Really enjoying working with these young blokes (13-15 yrs old).
Is always good hopping on the machine and getting them working as an 8 man unit. Although it is dissapointing that we haven’t had the numbers for any live scrums yet!
June 29th 2012 @ 6:04am
mania said | June 29th 2012 @ 6:04am | Report comment
good on u jeznez. thats where the rugby treasure mine really lies, in the age grades. you’ve hit paydirt if u have found a kid who is destined to be a prop. they are so rare and worth their weight and gold.
June 28th 2012 @ 10:28am
Jutsie said | June 28th 2012 @ 10:28am | Report comment
Jez what do u think of laurie weekes. I thought he was doing ok for the rebs before getting injured. But he has no support from the other props at scrum time. Rodney blake is excellent around the park but he’s technique at scrum time is hopeless.
Also regarding the recruiting of owens, I believe alo-emile is on the long term injury list too which.
June 28th 2012 @ 11:00am
Lats said | June 28th 2012 @ 11:00am | Report comment
Mate, this is a great question…
Laurie Weeks used to be awesome at the Reds, so was Rodzilla…
They seem to have fallen of the face of the earth in regards to Wallaby selection… geez, they are both big blokes with all the physical attributes be world class players… what is going down there at the Rebels, suddenly these guys can’t scrum anymore??
Is it simply that Australian S15 coaches dont really know much about the dark arts of front row play? Can’t fathom why our test front row is so fragile, given Foley and Link are both former test front rowers..
Lets face it, until we fix this tight 5 issue, we are no chance against the Lions next year.
June 28th 2012 @ 11:13am
jeznez said | June 28th 2012 @ 11:13am | Report comment
Weekes was good when he was part of the Tripod – although how the front row of Daley, Faingaa and Weekes troubled anyone remains a mystery to me. I’m at a loss, I don’t rate any of those three as scrummagers but together in that one season they smashed plenty of opposing packs.
Rod has always had flaws, I hoped that going north would see him develop but it just hasn’t happened and sadly now I think it never will.
June 28th 2012 @ 11:16am
Jutsie said | June 28th 2012 @ 11:16am | Report comment
Is his height one of the issues for Rod? it seems like the shorter stocky tight heads easily get him to pop.
June 28th 2012 @ 12:56pm
SkinnyKid said | June 28th 2012 @ 12:56pm | Report comment
Yes it is but then good form can overcome this. Basically its about hip heigh. If a tall bloke can get a hit and prevent the littler bloke getting a tricky position, provided he has his hips as the same height its pretty much a level playing field.
Look at Hayman is his day. Some great clips of him at training on youtube. Tall bloke that got it all right.
Rod packs high and soft, blokes get under him way too easy.
June 28th 2012 @ 9:40pm
Bakkies said | June 28th 2012 @ 9:40pm | Report comment
The thing with Rodzilla is that it’s a different mindset in Australia compared to France in regards to scrummaging. The French use it as a weapon (and the Bayonne matches I saw him play he did reasonably well in) whereas in Australia it’s used to restart the game and to get parity. A huge difference.
June 29th 2012 @ 1:01am
Carnivean said | June 29th 2012 @ 1:01am | Report comment
Rodzilla was summed up for me when, in about his second or third game back, he was told to make sure he had his bind right. He had just bound to air with his arm in the approximate position of a bind, but about 2-3 inches away from the other prop. Ref warned him, he did it again and got free kicked. They reset the scrum, the ref warned him again, and he again bound to nothing, but with his arm in approximately the right position.
Rod is competing with Matt Dunning (who got free kicked for being unable to follow the “touch” part of CTPE correctly) as the dumbest prop in the country. I’d be fairly certain that he is competing with Maafu for laziest as well.
June 28th 2012 @ 11:15am
Markus said | June 28th 2012 @ 11:15am | Report comment
Rodzilla was always a poor scrummager, only getting selected for the Wallabies during the worst period of Aus props since professional rugby started.
He had a good 1-2 seasons with the Reds, but by the time he left Australia he was so bad he couldn’t even crack the matchday 22.
June 28th 2012 @ 10:48am
Garmos said | June 28th 2012 @ 10:48am | Report comment
Good article Jez. I always think that that the front row is neglected in its development by the ARU. Hopefully a few of those ivory tower types at ARU HQ begin to take notice of your observations.
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June 28th 2012 @ 10:55am
Lats said | June 28th 2012 @ 10:55am | Report comment
Maybe at club level as well as bonus points for tries, we have bonus points for the dominant scrum.
You could use the 10 point must system that they use in boxing.. win your feed, you get ten points, other team gets 9… win a tight head against the feed, you get a 10-8 score, same as if you floor your opponent in boxing.
At the end of the game, the team with the wining scrum get the same bonus point you would have got if you scored 4 tries.
June 28th 2012 @ 2:23pm
jeznez said | June 28th 2012 @ 2:23pm | Report comment
love the idea – every match will need three ex-props sitting there watching judging the scrums. There is no way that could go wrong!
June 28th 2012 @ 11:09am
Markus said | June 28th 2012 @ 11:09am | Report comment
Owen was sought after by the Rebels after Alo-Emile joined Weekes on the longterm injury list, leaving only Rod Blake with any THP experience.
With Ruairdhri Murphy and Scott Sio both being signed by the Brumbies, I expect Jerry Yanuyanutawa to be released at the end of the year too.
When Jerry was fully fit he was a very powerful player, but suffered from several longterm injuries in his time. He also played for Fiji during the Pacific Nations this year, which may have impacted his eligibility to be contracted to a Super Rugby team.
Scott Sio should be another to watch in the future. Only 20 years old, but has already destroyed the Rebels scrum and held his own against a strong Welsh A scrum. Can play both sides but will probably settle as a TH in years to come.
June 28th 2012 @ 11:18am
jeznez said | June 28th 2012 @ 11:18am | Report comment
Cheers for that Markus – if Sio is developing as a THP then that further adds to my belief that Alexander needs to move to spend more time at THP. With Palmer and Sio developing on that side he won’t get a look in there. Instead he’ll be stealing minutes off Murphy who is showing great promise at LHP.
June 29th 2012 @ 9:25am
Bakkies said | June 29th 2012 @ 9:25am | Report comment
We will need Sio on the bench next season when we have to select 3 front rowers. White has also rested Palmer during the season. I know he had some ailments but there was going to be some rotation due to the more grinding nature of the comp.
June 28th 2012 @ 12:15pm
rl said | June 28th 2012 @ 12:15pm | Report comment
Great stuff Jez. Yet another terrific insight into the “dark arts”.
As much as I worry about potential problems with centralised pooling or control, you’d have to say that this seems like a very simple way to ensure our scrumming depth gets improved. Tilse really did seem like a bright prospect not long ago and he seems to be withering on the vine.
June 29th 2012 @ 9:26am
Bakkies said | June 29th 2012 @ 9:26am | Report comment
I thought there was talk of Tilse moving to the Reds or the Rebels
June 29th 2012 @ 4:11pm
jeznez said | June 29th 2012 @ 4:11pm | Report comment
I read that the Reds were sniffing, would make a lot more sense for him to move to the Rebels.
June 28th 2012 @ 12:37pm
Sam Taulelei said | June 28th 2012 @ 12:37pm | Report comment
Another great article Jez, I always look forward to reading your articles on scrummaging and props.
While I always knew it was a very technical position, until I read your posts, I didn’t appreciate exactly how technical and distinct a position each of the props are.
Many thanks.
June 28th 2012 @ 12:41pm
mania said | June 28th 2012 @ 12:41pm | Report comment
sam – its the most technical position and takes the most team work. funny that props are seen as the dummy’s of a rugby side, yet they have to be amongst the fittest and most technically savvy
June 29th 2012 @ 1:03am
Carnivean said | June 29th 2012 @ 1:03am | Report comment
Salesi Maafu being the exception to both of those statements.