Australian Super Rugby front row review
By jeznez, 28 Jun 2012 jeznez is a Roar Guru
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When Al Baxter and Matt Dunning played for the Wallabies, our scrum was an international laughing stock. It hurts but it is true.
At that time there were few alternatives, the Waratahs had the strongest scrum in Australia by a huge margin and no one else was knocking on the door for selection.
You cannot fault the players who are the best in their position in the country for not matching it with the best from elsewhere. Rather, the underlying structures needed to be reviewed to see why stronger alternatives are not being produced.
Currently we have some very obvious options in Dan Palmer, Sitaleki Timani and Kane Douglas who can improve the Wallaby scrum if they join Benn Robinson, Sekope Kepu, Tatafu Polota-Nau and Stephen Moore.
Beyond this group the likes of James Slipper, Ben Alexander and Rob Simmons are involved in the national side and are showing some of the same issues this year that we have seen in previous years. Right this minute, they look unlikely to significantly strengthen the Wallaby scrum.
Slipper and Simmons in particular are very young for tight forwards and along with the likes of Luke Jones, Caderyn Neville and Hugh Pyle look likely to develop in the coming years.
While there are a large range of second rowers coming through, where are the other props? When I look at Australia’s Super Rugby sides, there are concentrations of props meaning players are played out of position.
Let’s review each Super squad.
The Reds:
The Reds have too many looseheads and no genuine tightheads.
James Slipper is the main tighthead but his best ever scrummaging performance was a 2010 performance at loosehead where he held the Wallaby scrum together against Martin Castrogiovanni.
Slipper would benefit from being in a Super squad where he could play loosehead more often. It was rather unfair to switch him across against Scotland when he hadn’t had recent LHP match time.
Greg Holmes is the only real Wallaby contender for LHP, behind Benn Robinson. He has also been switching over and playing THP for the Reds but in my mind is an out and out LHP. I’m baffled why Deans did not bring him into the current Wallaby squad.
Ben Daley is a LHP but needs to improve his scrummaging significantly if he desires to make the Wallabies again.
The Reds three main props are all looseheads, with one playing out of position. Slipper is a prodigious talent performing at a high level, about eight years earlier than most props hit their peak. I’m concerned that we won’t see the best of him unless he is given an extended period at LHP and that is unlikely to occur with the makeup of the current Reds squad.
The Brumbies:
Here we have the opposite issue at the Brumbies, with an abundance of tightheads cruelling each other’s opportunities.
Dan Palmer is the Wallaby heir apparent at THP and in his second year as a starter he is putting together some impressive performances for the Brumbies and now the Wallabies. He is suffering from having a light second rower behind him but his technique is shining through. He is one of our success stories – he was getting ignored on the bench at the Waratahs and he has moved and now seen higher honours.
Ben Alexander is the current problem child of the Wallabies. He was part of the scrum penalty at the end of the Scotland game at THP. Alexander was on the other side at LHP in the Wales disintegration this weekend. He plays predominantly as a LHP at the Brumbies only moving to THP when Palmer subs off.
Alexander’s best scrummaging performances were at THP on the northern tour of 2009. He hadn’t had a great Tri-Nations despite being stronger than Baxter who he replaced in that series. During the break between the domestic and northern internationals, he adjusted his foot position forward by about six inches and subsequently scrummed the house down.
Since then Alexander has had limited opportunities at THP. Given Palmer has the starting spot at the Brumbies sewn up, perhaps Alexander and Slipper should look at a swap? Or maybe Holmes should swap with Alexander with the understanding that Alexander would go to THP for the Reds?
This would mean Palmer would play more minutes and his fitness would have to improve while allowing Alexander to see if he can find that 2009 scrummaging form again. Whichever players swapped, Slipper would get more time at LHP to see if he can find his scrummaging form.
Ruaidhri Murphy is the other prop at the Brumbies. He is a developing loosehead and coming on nicely off the bench in his first year and looks promising.
The Waratahs:
In Sydney it is different situation. Benn Robinson and Sekope Kepu are two of the first picked props in the Wallabies. Each has a very able understudy who isn’t getting enough game time.
Jeremy Tilse has been in the Waratahs system for five years. I’ve not seen any radical improvement in the last two. He is a good young prop who at 26 is about to enter his prime. Indeed, this season he has gone backwards as he has developed a movement of his left foot on impact which is weakening his hit and leaving his feet too far forward.
Tilse’s best scrummaging performance was two years ago against the Hurricanes where he came off the bench and stopped the damage that Nemia Tialata had been doing to the scrum.
Tilse’s only opportunities come after injury, usually to Robinson, this year to Paddy Ryan. The chance that he overtakes Robinson is currently unlikely and for the good of his rugby he should be looking at another side so he can become a starting player.
Paddy Ryan is younger and was getting some good minutes off the bench as a THP for the Waratahs. Before he got injured his performances looked good enough to earn him a start at another team. Should he continue sitting behind Kepu or should he be looking at moving?
The Waratahs scrum is rightly lauded as the best in Australia and I believe the best in Super Rugby this year. However with a Wallaby hat on, this is partly due to the strength of the bench and may not be in the nation’s best interest.
The Rebels:
The Rebels scrum has been the weakest of the Australian teams this year. Laurie Weekes, Rodney Blake and Nic Henderson have been the main culprits. Jono Owen has joined the side more recently but ultimately I think the solution is the Waratah bench props.
There are a number of young props on their books in Paul Alo-Emile and Eddie Aholelei but I have not seen these young guys play. The mid-season recruitment of Owen suggests that the Rebels coaches don’t feel they are going to be ready soon.
The Waratahs bench props look significantly better than the Rebels starting props. It is hard to gauge the set piece work of the Rebels promising second rowers in Hugh Pyle and Caderyn Neville without seeing them pack down with some other props. Is a real shame there isn’t a Wallabies A team running around to see how this group would perform with different combinations.
The Force:
I think the Force are actually very well balanced in their propping stakes.
Pekahou Cowan has plenty of Wallaby experience and is a very competent prop at Super level. His LHP play is superior to his THP but both are capable.
Salesi Ma’afu has the potential to be a very good THP but ultimately needs to fix his conditioning. Hopefully he spends the off season with Cowan, as Pek (who did the same) turned out for the Force in terrific nick this year.
Kieran Longbottom doesn’t get the plaudits of Slipper and Palmer but is an excellent young prospect and being 26/27 is hitting his prime period. There is a lot of upside to be seen with this young guy as long as he can avoid injuries such as the one he is currently suffering.
Salesi Manu is the Force’s young prop. The injury to Longbottom has seen him have a few runs this year and he certainly looks up to the task.
Sum up:
All in all I think the Reds have too many looseheads and it is ruining Slipper, the Brumbies too many tightheads and Alexander is suffering.
The Waratahs have too much experience on their bench and Tilse and Ryan are being held back because of it, the Rebels have not got strong enough starting props and their entire team is suffering for it.
The Force have the most balanced set of props on their playing roster out of all the squads in the country.
If market forces do not cause these imbalances to square up, then the ARU needs to look at the process. The movement of established stars between franchises has been disruptive recently but even more damaging is players being held back through warehousing or being forced to play out of position.
I think that Australian scrummaging as a whole is suffering as Alexander, Slipper, Tilse and Ryan are not being well served under their current situations.
What do you think Roarers? Shouldn’t the Wallabies be the ultimate priority? Should we have central contracting or a player protection system that prevents warehousing?
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June 28th 2012 @ 1:05pm
Jeff said | June 28th 2012 @ 1:05pm | Report comment
One of the problems that the Wallabies have suffered from is that the pack as a whole haven’t scrummaged.Franks has said that he just concentrated on keeping his back as straight as possible so that Brad Thorn could push.You need very strong locks [who know how to scrum] plus your three loose forwards must also contibute strongly.
If you look at the Wallabies scrum you see all three loosies just hanging on.It is one reason I laugh when I hear talk of Higginbotham being world class.He has no idea of how to scrum.You only have to look at how quickly Isaac Ross was dropped from first of all the ABs and then from NZ Super Rugby sides to see how importantly it is regarded across the ditch.Basically the guy couldn’t scrum and didn’t want to learn.There is also a lot of comment in NZ at the moment about Ali Williams not contributing at scrum time.And it was noticeable how the ABs scrum succumbed to Ireland in the 2nd test when he came on.
We also need a dedicated scrum coach like the ABs have had for years. I don’t think Cron did any other coaching apart from scrummaging.
And it is a specialised job.
June 28th 2012 @ 2:21pm
Jutsie said | June 28th 2012 @ 2:21pm | Report comment
At almost every scrum under pressure u can see higginbottom with barely a hand attached to his lock.
June 28th 2012 @ 2:31pm
jeznez said | June 28th 2012 @ 2:31pm | Report comment
Yep, good point Jeff – the one penalty we earnt in the 3rd test against Wales was when Dennis put a great shunt on Alexander and they turned James sideways. The role of the back five in the scrum gets massively underrated.
Jutsie, you are right Higgers abandons ship way too easily when the scrum is under pressure.
The comment from Franks above is a good one, particularly at tighthead if you have the weight coming through you just get low, keep your back straight and transfer it straight on – is a fantastic feeling sending that power onto your opponent. Sometimes when you get it just right he gives a little squeal – always a happy moment.
June 29th 2012 @ 6:37am
wannabprop said | June 29th 2012 @ 6:37am | Report comment
“… gives a little squeal…” Gold Jez. That was me in my brief foray into the front row – hence the enormous respect. Has anyone noticed how poorly conditioned our front rowers are compared to virtually every other international pack? Look at the Irish props for example – they look like athletes. Robinson and Alexander (but maybe not Kepu and Palmer) look extremely unfit, like looking at props from 30 years ago. I have to think Australia appears so far behind – in attitude, conditioning, coaching etc etc. Used to be trend setters, now sadly lagging in most departments…
June 29th 2012 @ 4:13pm
jeznez said | June 29th 2012 @ 4:13pm | Report comment
Robinson next to Jones looked hopelessly out of shape. I’ve always loved Fat Cat’s rollypolyness but his gut looks to be interfering with his crouch at the moment.
June 30th 2012 @ 12:57am
wannabprop said | June 30th 2012 @ 12:57am | Report comment
Interfering with his crouch!? That says it all really (unless you were joking)!
June 28th 2012 @ 6:19pm
AndyS said | June 28th 2012 @ 6:19pm | Report comment
Amen to that! When the Wallabies put on a proper eight man shove, they generally stand up pretty well against anyone. It happens with passing frequency however and we usually have six men tops.
June 29th 2012 @ 5:59am
mania said | June 29th 2012 @ 5:59am | Report comment
tots agree jeff. isaacRoss was dropped for his scrummaging and his reluctance to hit the rucks and mauls. tried telling KPM that for a tight5 their core roles are so much more valued than how well they play in the lose/open.
aus need a dedicated scrum coach but they also need to find those kids who enjoy scrumming and nurture them. not enough are coming thru the ranks. in aus it looks like all the non-atheletic kids are the ones that become props, those kids that couldnt make it in any other position. in NZ prop is consider as one of the main roles.
i always hear other coaches btching that they wish they had a decent THP
June 28th 2012 @ 2:23pm
Uncle Argyle said | June 28th 2012 @ 2:23pm | Report comment
Mate is Ruaidhri Murphy eligible to play for Australia? I thought he would have to qualify be staying here at least another two seasons?
It would take about that long before I would even consider him a Wallaby prospect. You know I love Jeremy Tilse and think him a wasted commodity down in Tahville.
However my Singapore based Colleague who do we have coming up the ranks at Hooker to compliment these props. I see these as the rankings today;
1. Totafu Polata-Nau (NSW)
2. Stephen Moore (ACT)
3. James Hanson (QLD)
4. Saia Fainga’a (QLD)
5. Nathan Charles (WA)
6. Jed Robinson (Melb – New Zealander but can he qualify for us?)
7. John Ulinga (NSW)
8. Adam Frier (Melb)
9. Damien Fitzpatrick (NSW)
10. Adrian Morris (Tweed Heads, Gold Coast Breakers, Whoolhara Colleagues, BOB’S and now the Moranbah Miners)
….I think the number 10 might be a threat.
June 28th 2012 @ 3:01pm
jeznez said | June 28th 2012 @ 3:01pm | Report comment
Murphy has declared his desire to play for Oz but still needs to qualify based on residency. There was an appeal going on between Brumbies and ARU over eligibility/marquee status. I think he has at least one more year (maybe two) before he meets IRB requirements.
Of the Hookers:
I’d have Charles ahead of Faingaa and maybe even Robinson ahead as well. I do not believe that Ged is eligibile for the Wallabies yet but if he stays in Melbourne he’d qualify on residency grounds.
Ulugia has played some good footy this year in his general play, scrums well and has even been credible at THP when called to substitute there – unfortunately his throwing is diabolical, even worse than TPN and Moore’s.
The Force still have Ben Whitaker on their books who I quite like but can only assume is injured as I haven’t seen him recently. They also have Elvis Taione, while the Waratahs next man in line is Josh Mann-Rea.
Fitzpatrick is a mystery, he has had a couple of ok games, some poor ones and bad injury. I initially thought he looked promising but that was back when he debuted for the Tahs back in 2009.
Faingaa is great as an extra loose forward but I see him part of a dysfunctional scrum too often.
At number 10. Spanner does bring a great brand of Evil to any side he plays in – I’d be concerned that any higher honours would interfere with his Bondi 10s activities though.
It would leave me high and dry if he wasn’t around, he is the other member of our two man hotel hallway bobsled team – I’d have to switch to luge or skeleton and it wouldn’t be as good.
June 28th 2012 @ 3:11pm
Jeff said | June 28th 2012 @ 3:11pm | Report comment
The other interesting thing about Matt Dunning was as well as being a pretty substandard international prop he was a great sledger.
He used to try and wind the ABs up by telling them what they were in for etc.
It is one thing to do this if you are a quality player and can justify your words but with Matt it only made him a bigger laughing stock than he already was.Unfortunately this was when the Wallabies were losing to the ABs on a regular basis.It pays to be able to back your words up with deeds.
June 28th 2012 @ 4:07pm
flying hori said | June 28th 2012 @ 4:07pm | Report comment
They learn’t their trade from Bill Young! remember him he was the WORST prop aussie had.
June 28th 2012 @ 4:16pm
Jutsie said | June 28th 2012 @ 4:16pm | Report comment
Not sure he was worst, dunning probably takes that award.
Youngs was pretty smart he got away with alot of boring in etc during his time. Drove the english wild in the world cup final where he inexplicably milked numerous penalties at scrum time.
June 28th 2012 @ 4:25pm
PeterK said | June 28th 2012 @ 4:25pm | Report comment
Nick Stiles was even worse.
June 28th 2012 @ 5:04pm
Jutsie said | June 28th 2012 @ 5:04pm | Report comment
Isn’t stiles the scrum coach at the force now. They actually arent that bad a unit. Shame about their backs though
June 28th 2012 @ 6:56pm
jeznez said | June 28th 2012 @ 6:56pm | Report comment
yeah Stiles at Force, Young at Brumbies. Link who presided over Dunning, Freier and Baxter is now at the Reds – not sure if he gets Alec Evans in to help out or if he runs scrum training himself.
June 28th 2012 @ 9:41pm
Bakkies said | June 28th 2012 @ 9:41pm | Report comment
Young was dumped from the Brumbies
June 28th 2012 @ 5:14pm
KiwiDave said | June 28th 2012 @ 5:14pm | Report comment
“When Al Baxter and Matt Dunning played for the Wallabies, our scrum was an international laughing stock.”
Whats changed? LOL
June 28th 2012 @ 6:45pm
jeznez said | June 28th 2012 @ 6:45pm | Report comment
Curse you KD, that is cold bro. I have no witty comeback to that.
If Robbie picks a pack for the RC of:
1. Robinson
2. TPN
3. Palmer
4. Sharpe
5. Timani
6. Higginbotham
7. Pocock
8. Palu
16. Moore
17. Kepu
18. Douglas
19. Dennis
And there is a dedicated focus at training so that the back row provide more consistent and effective support.
Then I would hope the Wallabies could do their talking on the pitch – unfortunately considering Deans ignored Palmer this entire Wales series despite a solid debut against Scotland. I’ll just sit and hope….
June 29th 2012 @ 10:17am
KiwiDave said | June 29th 2012 @ 10:17am | Report comment
LOL Jez. You have improved a little but still a bit to go to rank with the top scrums
June 29th 2012 @ 4:17pm
jeznez said | June 29th 2012 @ 4:17pm | Report comment
I know KD – I think this Welsh series has been a good wake up call – hopefully Palmer and Holmes are the two into the squad when the extra prop reserve comes in.
Alexander needs to go away and have a long hard look in the mirror. Then while staring at his reflection he has to think to himself – ‘”There is something wrong with this picture. I know what it is – its Me.”
June 29th 2012 @ 10:20am
sheek said | June 29th 2012 @ 10:20am | Report comment
Obviously I seem to be on the outer here with my thinking, but I would have Moore starting, & TPN off the bench.
Moore is a much better allround hooker, required for setting the scrum, straight lineout throwing, hard runs up the centre.
TPN can then come in the last 20-30 mins or so & weave his destructive magic. Makes better sense to me…..
June 28th 2012 @ 8:41pm
Aussie Fan Club said | June 28th 2012 @ 8:41pm | Report comment
kepu is too soft and not enough mongrel in him especially when he plays the kiwis, as we tend to do pyle has been overhyped and is now starting to believe it, his progress will stagnate for a few years until he realises he’s not in wallaby selections and gets desperate, he’s another dean mumm softy
June 28th 2012 @ 8:49pm
Bakkies said | June 28th 2012 @ 8:49pm | Report comment
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The Reds:
The Reds have too many looseheads and no genuine tightheads.”
Guy Shepherdson
As for Alexander he is suffering also from the Wallabies negative scrum tactics. The Wallabies are relying on milking penalties by trying to drop the opposition’s bind off a low hit. This leads to a lot of resets and penalties (quiet often for the opposition). The Wallabies need to start scrummaging aggressively by pushing their opponents back and off the ball. The French tactic (which the Saffies used in the Under 20s Final when they dumped the Kiwis on their backsides) of driving up to force the opposition to release their bind should be looked it. It gets an instant penalty.
June 28th 2012 @ 9:10pm
SkinnyKid said | June 28th 2012 @ 9:10pm | Report comment
One thing is for sure. There is a plague in aussie rugby right now to play props on both sides tat rarely happens anywhere else in the world. This needs to stop.
Pick a side of the scrum and stick to it.
Kepu, Alexander and Slipper have chopped and change a bit too much over the last few years. It can only hamper their development.
June 28th 2012 @ 9:42pm
Bakkies said | June 28th 2012 @ 9:42pm | Report comment
Mate it will change now that Super Rugby and test rugby will have two props on the bench. A specialist tight head and a specialist loose head. They will stop the swapping and changing. The ARU should let the Super Rugby teams recruit an extra prop to cover this.
I would like to see
1. Robinson
2. Moore
3. Palmer
On the bench
16. TPN
17. Alexander
18. James Slipper/Kepu
Two ball carriers off the bench as impact subs. Much better for the Wallabies.
June 29th 2012 @ 11:47am
SkinnyKid said | June 29th 2012 @ 11:47am | Report comment
100% agree with your selections —-100%
Mind you, you might reverse them against a weaker pack on a dry track.
June 29th 2012 @ 6:55am
wannabprop said | June 29th 2012 @ 6:55am | Report comment
SK. Noriega said last year “you have to be able to play both sides…” Is he still part of the set up, or is Blades scrum coach as well as forwards coach? Actually, wasn’t Blades an (unsuccessful) scrum coach previously with the WBs?
June 29th 2012 @ 9:30am
Bakkies said | June 29th 2012 @ 9:30am | Report comment
That was last year. The 8 man bench is being introduced at test level from November so it’s better to have players scrummaging on their preferred side.
June 29th 2012 @ 10:15am
Red Kev said | June 29th 2012 @ 10:15am | Report comment
I look at the Australian set up and I would have been having a full front row on the bench anyway. What is the Wallabies biggest weakness, the scrum, therefore I should use the bench to shore up that area of the game. Not rocket science.
You don’t need two loose forward replacements, have three front-rowers in a 5-2 bench especially when you can sit AAC on the pine to cover 11-12-13-14-15 and you have Beale and Barnes (and probably O’Connor during the Rugby Championship) on the field.
June 29th 2012 @ 5:29pm
Bakkies said | June 29th 2012 @ 5:29pm | Report comment
I am not a fan of 5 forwards on the bench to it’s me over excessive. How often do you see 4 forwards replaced due to rotation. You need injury cover for the backs. That’s where most of the Wallabies injuries have been.
June 29th 2012 @ 1:51pm
wannabprop said | June 29th 2012 @ 1:51pm | Report comment
Agreed. But until then, WBs lost a test to Scotland, could easily have lost a series to Wales, and enter the RC with this (apparently) same philosophy – specifically, Alexander to play both sides (even if he’s crap on both).
June 29th 2012 @ 12:26am
Skills & Techniques said | June 29th 2012 @ 12:26am | Report comment
Fantastic article jeznez. You have obviously spent plenty of time in those dank, gloomy, pungent hell-holes. Really appreciate your break down!
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June 29th 2012 @ 3:05am
fernando Marzano said | June 29th 2012 @ 3:05am | Report comment
Hello people, greetings from Argentina
I understand that from Patricio Noriega took over training the front line of the Wallabies scrum, not only has improved greatly, now also has equaled and surpassed the best teams in the world (ABs, Boks, French, Irish, Wales, etc) . Before that the WBS have had too many problems, even in the period in which Pat representing your country, and in the time of Jeremy Paul, an oustanding hooker to me, much better than Michel Fowley was.
Before the June test, I thought the first line of the Warrathas should play together in the WBS, because they know to each other, they work all weeks together, plus they have a very good technique to form, and highly mobile .
I do really love this 3 players, and the other options to me, Should Be:
As LHP Sekope KEPU, after Robinson’s injury he did played very well, facing THP as Owen F, Du Plessis, etc.. The other one that I believe is a very good LHP is Ben Dailey, do not know why he was not called. Slipper is a great player in the loos game, but is not solid scrumagging, and very often has had been penalized.
As the first alternative at THP is Ben Alexander (as far has done cery well), as the second options should be Salesi Ma Afu (‘solid scrum but less mobility).
As Hookers, you have no problems since Moore, Faingaá do it very well.
I can not comment on players like Palmer and others mentioned, as I have seen very little play.
Regarding the Pumas, although the scrum was always a high point, today we have difficulty replacing players like Scelzo, Reggiardo, Hassan, Fede Mendez, Mario Ledesma and Patricio Grau. Furthermore, our Scrum coach (Reggiardo), could not form a solid front line here, although tested at least 10 players in those positions.
It will be interesting to see them now in the Rugby Championship, for now I have tickets to see South Africa and Australia, with New Zealand tickets were sold out 4 months before, as is inclusion of Argentina into the 4 nation format, has awakened a passion equal to that of ‘Soccer.
So long.
June 29th 2012 @ 8:48am
Lats said | June 29th 2012 @ 8:48am | Report comment
Mate, great post, very insightful comments also. Looking forward to seeing your boys perform in the new competition. Good luck
June 29th 2012 @ 4:23pm
jeznez said | June 29th 2012 @ 4:23pm | Report comment
Fernando – thanks for the post. I visited your fair country in April and I have to say the hospitality was amazing. The best rugby tour I have ever been on. Great rugby played, fantastic BBQ eaten, delicious Malbec drunk and beautiful women admired!
On the Aussie players I have to respectfully disagree regarding Ben Daley – he is a mobile prop and great in the loose but his scrummaging is not strong enough. He cannot keep his left should up against the best THP’s. The Englishman Cole absolutely destroyed him when we tried him for the Wallabies, I’ve not seen much improvement in him since then. Greg Holmes the other Reds LHP is excellent and should be getting a better look at the Wallabies.