Should Izzy go home to the NRL?
By Andrew Sutherland, 1 Jul 2012 Andrew Sutherland is a Roar Expert
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GWS Giants forward Israel Folau (Slattery Images)
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Is it time for Israel Folau to go home? Should he leave behind the skinny red ball he has never looked comfortable holding, pick up the chunky white one he grew up with, and return to rugby league?
On his NRL debut at Melbourne’s Olympic Park in 2007 Folau scored the match winning try; a magnificent feat for a 17-year-old.
Just as amazing, considering his present struggles, was the way he scored it. With the MCG – where Folau had began to watch and grow fond of AFL – as a backdrop he soared high above his squat ground-based opponents taking a spectacular “mark” and executing the putdown that would seal the game.
If anyone had asked themselves at that instant: “Could this kid play AFL?”, the answer would most likely have been in the affirmative.
Five years later, however, it has become apparent that if any player could have been plucked from that Melbourne Storm side and made into an AFL superstar his name would have been Billy Slater, or perhaps Greg Inglis, but not – unfortunately – Israel Folau.
“I’ll do whatever it takes to be a successful AFL player”, said the quiet barnstorming centre on announcing his move to Aussie Rules.
Firstly, that has meant transforming a body that was built for short bursts of brute strength, into the lithe construction of the modern AFL footballer. To his credit he has probably succeeded as far as nature will allow. Craig Bellamy ran into his slimmer former charge recently and said he hardly recognised him.
With a league ball in hand Folau was an intimidating mixture of power and athleticism. Those T-rex thighs enabled him to plough through multiple tackles and to leap above defenders near the tryline.
His weakness was a lack of sideways movement and elusive skills hence he was a relatively poor defender and, unlike his fellow champion teammates Slater and Inglis, rarely scythed his way through opposition defences.
Even more significant though is his poor aerobic capacity which was a problem at the Storm, according to Bellamy. It’s a huge liability in the AFL.
It’s interesting to note that Folau’s coach Kevin Sheedy while at Essendon was poised to release Jobe Watson in 2007 due to his bulk and lack of aerobic fitness. As we now know Watson transformed himself into a star using a tortuous fitness regimen.
Folau could draw inspiration from Watson’s example but Watson has played AFL his entire life.
Adapting mentally to the game has caused Folau huge problems; having to re programme his mind that is attuned to the grid-like game he has played since childhood.
Folau has often looked all at sea in the middle of the frenetic and unrelenting activity of AFL – looking to lay single powerful tackles when he can. He will improve as time goes on but it’s unlikely he’ll ever be a significant force in the game.
He came to AFL for a number of reasons. Six million dollars over four years being the main one – not because he’s a mercenary but to support his family.
He wanted a challenge because success came too easily for him in league, and the grass probably seemed greener on the field of another code.
But when a superstar of league leaves to play AFL curtain raisers at Skoda Stadium, neither sport benefits.
For the sake of both codes perhaps it’s time for Izzy to go back to the NRL, where he belongs.
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July 1st 2012 @ 7:30am
Lidcombe Magpie said | July 1st 2012 @ 7:30am | Report comment
Of course he should, they all run bag home to get a hug from mum. Meanwhile I have to put up with all the crap from mates who hate rugby league. It’s an embarrassment for the sport. Come back brother, come on Lote, your 32 and we’ll time you with a sun dial, but come and feel the love in the National Retirement League and we’ll even throw in a green and gold jersey. What a joke!
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July 1st 2012 @ 8:25am
jdubya said | July 1st 2012 @ 8:25am | Report comment
The AFL thought that Folau would bring other Polynesian kids to the game, what it has really done is prove that they in fact cannot play the game. If Folau can’t make it what chance does it give the other Islanders who are more suited to league?
Come back Izzy, we all knew you had to take the money but it’s time to come home
July 1st 2012 @ 8:35pm
dan said | July 1st 2012 @ 8:35pm | Report comment
so Aaron Edwards can’t play?
July 1st 2012 @ 8:53pm
Brewski said | July 1st 2012 @ 8:53pm | Report comment
Alipate Carlile, Nic Nat, David Rodan etc etc , even Collingwood debut player this year Marley Williams has a polynesian background, but it is safe to say that RL has many many more polynesian players.
And it would be safe to say that many polynesian players are more suited to rugby, and don’t have the required athletic ability to play AF at the highest level.
July 3rd 2012 @ 5:38am
dan said | July 3rd 2012 @ 5:38am | Report comment
don’t get aerobic capacity and athletic ability mixed up.
July 4th 2012 @ 3:25am
oogles said | July 4th 2012 @ 3:25am | Report comment
Nic Nat is of Fijian descent. He’s Melanesian, not Polynesian.
July 1st 2012 @ 8:31am
chris said | July 1st 2012 @ 8:31am | Report comment
The AFL is too Australia what the NBA is too America no room for small or bulk type player’s.
July 1st 2012 @ 10:36pm
cos789 said | July 1st 2012 @ 10:36pm | Report comment
and the NRL is to Australia what NFL is to America – strong short burst athletes (although they have to be more endurance and less strength in the NRL than NFL, a more stop start sport)
July 2nd 2012 @ 9:08am
jdubya said | July 2nd 2012 @ 9:08am | Report comment
There is more body type variation in the NRL than in the AFL. There will always be room for the little man like Scott Prince or Matt Bowen.
July 2nd 2012 @ 2:05pm
me, I like football said | July 2nd 2012 @ 2:05pm | Report comment
What about Eddie Betts?
http://www.carltonfc.com.au/players/playerprofile/eddiebetts/tabid/7854/playerid/14031/category/senior/season/2012/selected/bio/default.aspx
Or Brent Harvey?
http://www.kangaroos.com.au/players/playerprofile/brentharvey/tabid/8141/playerid/14302/category/senior/season/2012/selected/bio/default.aspx
July 2nd 2012 @ 2:35pm
Australian Rules said | July 2nd 2012 @ 2:35pm | Report comment
jdubya is that a serious statement?
Ryan Neats (WCE) is 169cm and 69kg.
Aaron Sandilands (Freo) is 2011cm and 119kg.
July 2nd 2012 @ 4:15pm
micka said | July 2nd 2012 @ 4:15pm | Report comment
That is one of the most bizarre things I have ever read on theroar.
There wouldn’t be many in the NRL further outlying than the likes of Jeffy Garlett and Sandilands.
July 1st 2012 @ 8:31am
oikee said | July 1st 2012 @ 8:31am | Report comment
A line from the Mad Max movie, “that thing , that ain’t the goose”.
This is how Issy looks, it is not normal for a Polynesian to lose so much weight. These boys are fed on pig and wholesome foods their mummers made, not slim meals.
If you seen what T-Rex eats each week you would have a heart attack. His food bill is 1000 dollars alone.
I look at Isreal and all i see is a wasted career. No fans to love him, no tribal love, no Origin, he was always first picked, no playing for his country and a wasted opportunity of playing a world cup next year.
Queenslanders loved this guy, now he is a nothing, a nobody, a wasted soul.
They should start a campaign, “Bring Issy Home”. It’s heart breaking to see what he has become. I cry myself to sleep every night.
He was a superstar playing the biggest of blockbusters, could you just imagine him at Suncorp this Wednesday, lining up with Inglis, Thurston and being part of Petro’s last game of Origin in his brilliant career.
With a state lovingly behind him no matter what mistakes he made, look at him now.
July 2nd 2012 @ 4:19pm
micka said | July 2nd 2012 @ 4:19pm | Report comment
Oikee, can you imagine the side step and shimmy on him now though? I’d be interested to see how the AFL style training affected his NRL game. I know its a very experimental way to treat a mans career but the ineterstingness of it is there.
As an AFL fan I still want him to get up. Despite his deficiencies a lot can be made up for with 2nd and 3rd efforts. To me, Izzy isnt putting these in often enough.
Lloyd’s a moron.
July 1st 2012 @ 8:41am
Ticker said | July 1st 2012 @ 8:41am | Report comment
The bloke looks like he’s been ravaged by the plague. He would obviously have to put the weight back on to come back – is that sort of roller coaster good for the body?
July 1st 2012 @ 8:51am
oikee said | July 1st 2012 @ 8:51am | Report comment
Not sure, but i know it will be good for his soul to have a damm good feed. He is Polynesian not kiwi, Poly boys are big boned monsters. If you dont feed them, they fade away to nothing.
July 1st 2012 @ 8:45am
Johnno said | July 1st 2012 @ 8:45am | Report comment
To be honest why not have Izyy have crack at rugby union. He has achieved everything in rugby league. Grand final wins, state of origin wins, played for Australia. Why not see Izzy Folau in wallaby jersey at the world cup, or in a Tonga jersey at the world cup, now that former wallaby but born in Tonga Totaui Kefu is the head coach. And by the way like Greg Inglis , Izzy folau is a born and bread new south welshman.
July 1st 2012 @ 8:56am
oikee said | July 1st 2012 @ 8:56am | Report comment
Yeah, just like Tamou, born and bread, give it up Johhno.
The last time i looked he was leaping and winning games for Queensland, not nsw.
These boys walk ovwer hot coals and glass to play for queensland, to be queenslanders. You will never change that, and worry about your own players, Sterlo came from here with me, in Toowoomba mate.
I have a picture of him here, with me playing juniors.
July 1st 2012 @ 9:09am
Johnno said | July 1st 2012 @ 9:09am | Report comment
oikee such a bisaed and passionate 1 eyed QLDer. i would love oikee if you stated right here right now 2 things.
You like rugby league more than rugby , and you are a very patriotic queenslander. And ethically NSW is guilty yes but i want you to acknowledge QLD is guilty of the same offences oikee so man up and admit QLD play within the rules but don’t display the highest of ethics when selecting players.
However i will applaud Mal on one selection, he morally took the high ground and didn’t pick big sam casino, i wish he did the same thing with Ben T’eo
July 1st 2012 @ 9:33am
Dan said | July 1st 2012 @ 9:33am | Report comment
Johnno, if you’re going to be pedantic and technical, you should make sure you’re correct. Falou has never won a premiership. He does however have the asterisk.
July 1st 2012 @ 10:46am
Gleeso said | July 1st 2012 @ 10:46am | Report comment
thats it. He has never won a premiership. He has that to achieve in league. He has made a lot of money. He should come back.
July 1st 2012 @ 6:38pm
Katipo said | July 1st 2012 @ 6:38pm | Report comment
Move to rugby union Izzy. The ‘Tahs and Wallabies actually need you.
July 1st 2012 @ 8:47am
The Greatest Game Of All said | July 1st 2012 @ 8:47am | Report comment
Israel was never an Inglis, never a Slater, not even a Hunt. Israel rarely had to run the ball more than 10 meters to score his tries, and he created very little, opportunities were created for him. Sadly Izzy believed in his own press, thought he was bigger than the game and left it for the money he thought he deserved.
July 1st 2012 @ 8:53am
sean maguire said | July 1st 2012 @ 8:53am | Report comment
He ain’t no T Rex!!!
July 1st 2012 @ 11:47am
Gaz said | July 1st 2012 @ 11:47am | Report comment
TGGOA,
“thought he was bigger than the game and left it for the money he thought he deserved”.
Maybe a tad hard on the young fella here, I’m more inclined to believe it was guru Demetriou that was keenest to have him change
and offer the big bucks. How could he ever feel he “deserved” it when he had never played the game.
All in all it’s been an absolute stuff up all around. GWS has relocated from the western suburbs, losing millions a year like the Suns, Dimetriou had to take a pay cut, It will be a long long time before the AFL goes down any of these tracks again if at all.
It remains to be seen if and when he returns he can take up where he left off, one thing is certain he may not have been as rich but much much happier if he didn’t take the call from Demitriou and perhaps Demetriou thinks the same.
July 1st 2012 @ 12:08pm
The Greatest Game Of All said | July 1st 2012 @ 12:08pm | Report comment
Izzy must have known what was at stake when you accept that type of money, every little mistake was going to be magnified, did he know? Surely? He let his ego get in the way, must be a very humbling experience for the young man.
July 1st 2012 @ 8:49am
sean maguire said | July 1st 2012 @ 8:49am | Report comment
I noticed he’d been rubbed out of the Swans vs GWS promotional material, seemed a bit strange for their ‘star’ player to dissapear like that. All they had were three kids I couldn’t recognise.
I think he’d need to bulk up again but I have said before and I’ll say it again he’ll never be a good AFL player. I’m sure he could organise a nice release from his GWS contract with a ‘no slagging off the AFL’ clause. He might even be more suited to wing with his body shape at the moment but he is the kind of player who I can see endind up in the secong row.
July 1st 2012 @ 6:45pm
Australian Rules said | July 1st 2012 @ 6:45pm | Report comment
He didn’t feature in the Swans game because he’d been out for 4 weeks with a hamstring injury. Like most players, he returned to playing via the reserves. Nothing “strange” about that at all Sean.
July 3rd 2012 @ 11:09pm
81paling said | July 3rd 2012 @ 11:09pm | Report comment
I think that there is, if you have paid $6m for someone over 4 years be he injured or not if he is the most recognized player in the team and if he is still in the team with any chance at all of playing you would put him on the cover. The fact that he was it may show a shift in the agenda i.e amongst the most prevalent of topics surrounding GWS at the moment is the possibility that Israel Falou could be getting bumped by some extremely strong young talent, the obvious next question is who are they?
Based on this would it not be a good move to put the rising stars on the cover?
July 4th 2012 @ 8:19am
Australian Rules said | July 4th 2012 @ 8:19am | Report comment
Would you have Billy Slater on the front cover advertising for Origin III?
(if your answer’s yes, you don’t work in advertising)
July 4th 2012 @ 9:05am
micka said | July 4th 2012 @ 9:05am | Report comment
Risking further (possibly increased) injury to a $6M player by rushing them back into the big game straight from injury is probably the last thing id do 81. There is a reason no one is rushed back into a side in the AFL.
July 1st 2012 @ 9:09am
James said | July 1st 2012 @ 9:09am | Report comment
would have to be a huge pay cut. I wouldn’t want him at the tigers for any more than 300k. He would be more of a project player if signed as it would take a year or more to get him back to the way he was.
July 1st 2012 @ 9:52am
waterboy said | July 1st 2012 @ 9:52am | Report comment
If I was managing him my advice to him would be stay where you are for the time being.
Stay at the AFL, pick up the lazy $3m for the last two years of his contract, and then come back to the NRL, as a 25 year old, and be in the new post new TV deal era of bigger NRL contracts.
Also another two years ( 4 yrs all up) in the relatively non violent contact of AFL reserves or bit part 1st grade play may extend his career in the NRL till he is 33-34.
Then off to Japanese Rugby till he is 40yrs and he can buy a small Tongan village or island….hell maybe the whole of Tonga to retire on.
July 1st 2012 @ 12:58pm
Timmuh said | July 1st 2012 @ 12:58pm | Report comment
How long would ittake for him to get his body back to the requirements of Rugby League? He might need to play a different role than in the past, at least in the first couple of years after going back. Could that make him an almost unknown entity, raising the question of what his market value would be in RL? (I’m not a League fan, so I really do not have a clue to the answers but do see them as things that would need to be considered before any cross back.)
July 1st 2012 @ 1:27pm
Patrick Angel said | July 1st 2012 @ 1:27pm | Report comment
Significantly less as a winger which is what his size drop would call for.