Five Kiwis who are built for Origin
By John Davidson, 3 Jul 2012 John Davidson is a Roar Guru
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Forget Tamou, Kasiano and Te’o. If Origin wants what New Zealand can offer, lets add some real steel and pick the very best there is.
Notwithstanding they may have played for other countries already, but what does that really mean in the fluid world of rugby league where rules are changed on a yearly basis and eligibility is stepped on more times than if it was under Adam MacDougall at a play-the-ball?
If Sticky and Big Mal want to get serious about their selections from the Shakey Isles, and really kill off international footy, then they have to get creative. Here’s five players they should have picked for Origin, who have the talent and ability to dominate the state-vs-state cauldron, not just play bit-roles.
Sure, some of them wouldn’t do it because they are actually proud Kiwis, but let’s send round Tommy Raudonikis and Trevor Gillmeister to their houses with a brown paper bag and a large megaphone, and see them fold.
1 Benji Marshall
He may be a very proud Kiwi from Whakatane. But he moved to the Gold Coast at 16 and excelled at Keebra Park Secondary High School. From there he played for the Australian Schoolboys and made his way to the Wests Tigers, and the rest is history.
Sure his links to the sunshine state might be somewhat tenuous, but when did that stop someone being picked in a maroon jersey? (Greg and Israel, I’m talking to you). The fleet-footed and fancy-free Benji would be a revelation in Origin with his trademark step and eye-catching ball skills.
2 Sonny Bill Williams
Sure he plays union now, and before that played for the Kiwis. All is forgiven. The king of the shoulder charge knows deep down his true home is in rugby league and that Origin is Mecca for leaguies. SBW moved to Sydney as a teenager and spent six years with the Dogs – surely that makes him a Blue.
He’s been drunk at the Clovelly and featured in the Daily Terror, both of which are rites of passage for any wannabe New South Welshman. With his his ability to bust tackles, smash blokes and offload with both hands tied behind his back, Williams is tailor-made to wear a NSW jersey.
3 Kieran Foran
This kid has already won a comp and played Test footy. Forget that he moved to Sydney’s North Shore as a child, he played for the Australian Schoolboys and his junior footy with the North Sydney Bears. The Bears! Anyone who has worn the famous red, black and white these days is as Sydney as Bob Carr, and should be allowed to play Origin.
He may be only 1.8 metres tall and 87 kg but he plays like he is twice the size. Foran loves to put a hit on and also to be smashed himself as he takes the ball to the line, definitely a prerequisite for Origin. A pure competitor, this 21-year-old can play three positions and Foran would just eat Origin up with a spoon.
4 Issac Luke
Tough? Check. Loves the rough stuff? Yes. Loves putting his head in places most people wouldn’t dream of? Yes. Grub? Yes. This Taranki tyro would be up there with Benny Elias and Steve Walters as a classic Origin hooker.
Like Foran he is pretty small, but plays like he is invincible, running through walls and throwing himself at much bigger objects. He’s lived in Sydney for the past six years or more as a Rabbitoh, surely that qualifies him for Origin. Also he has the cannonball repertoire to put his opposite number, Cameron Smith, off his game. A double blessing.
5 Manu Vatuvei
The big man is perfect for Origin – he scores tries, drops bombs and one moment is brilliant and the next moment horrific. Awesome! Who needs Fijians like Uate when we have Manu to excite and dismay us.
No player is as hot and cold as Vatuvei (not through lack of trying, Krisnan Inu) and that’s what Origin needs, the agony and the ecstacy. Manu has been picked for the All Star team on the Gold Coast a few times, so let’s make him a honorary canetoad. Trust me, if the choice was between Manu, Yow Yee and Boyd, you’d pick the Tongan tornado every time.
That’s it so, let the selections (and the death of Test footy) begin.
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July 3rd 2012 @ 11:41am
turbodewd said | July 3rd 2012 @ 11:41am | Report comment
Feleti Mateo and FuiFui MoiMoi, these guys can be pretty handy too.
Frankly, I have no issues with kiwis featuring in Origin as long as theyre recognised as Honorary Blues or Mercenary Maroons. Perhaps a limit of 3 or 4 per team. I mean these guys have been in Origin for years as Qlders…why not just make it official and recognise them properly. If SofO is the pinnacle of league then youve gotta let everyone have a chance at playing.
PS Im from the ACT, why on earth we are automatically Blues Ill never know.
July 3rd 2012 @ 12:06pm
eagleJack said | July 3rd 2012 @ 12:06pm | Report comment
How is Feleti Mateo considered a Kiwi turbodewd??
Born in Sydney. Raised in Sydney. Junior footy in Sydney. First senior footy in Sydney. Australian Schoolboys. NSW u19s. Junior Kangaroos. City Origin in 2008, 2012.
The only affiliation he has with New Zealand is that he plays for the Warriors. He is of Tongan heritage and thus has represented them. But he is eligible for the Blues as he is Australian.
July 3rd 2012 @ 2:58pm
turbodewd said | July 3rd 2012 @ 2:58pm | Report comment
I was drinking Ignorance Juice, those facts above I didnt knoweth…
July 3rd 2012 @ 4:18pm
adam said | July 3rd 2012 @ 4:18pm | Report comment
his name screams Kiwi
July 4th 2012 @ 1:28am
Jason said | July 4th 2012 @ 1:28am | Report comment
Feleti Mateo is a tongan name…
July 3rd 2012 @ 11:48am
B.A Sports said | July 3rd 2012 @ 11:48am | Report comment
Alex Glenn was made for Origin. The guy has developed into an 80minute loaded gun.
July 3rd 2012 @ 11:48am
John Davidson said | July 3rd 2012 @ 11:48am | Report comment
Good point turbodewd, I was thinking of that the other day. Why is ACT included as part of NSW in Origin? I don’t actually know.
July 4th 2012 @ 12:33pm
DAYER said | July 4th 2012 @ 12:33pm | Report comment
get you ask the NRL that Q? I or we would all like to know … strange how ACT became NSW when back then NSW had more players to choose from than QLD. very interesting indeed, so if ACT players were taken out fron NSW, would the games won by NSW become VOID because they used RING INS. WOW, that means QLD is the greatest State ever because we had no ring ins.
Awiting your reply and all others
July 3rd 2012 @ 12:00pm
sledgeross said | July 3rd 2012 @ 12:00pm | Report comment
Mateo is actually an AUssie who is eligible to play for 4 countries. For mine, he should have been on the bench rather than the one dimensional, limited Beau Scott.
July 3rd 2012 @ 12:00pm
Chris Chard said | July 3rd 2012 @ 12:00pm | Report comment
Nice work John, I also believe Jeremy Smith would make Origin if he was that way inclined -he is a beast!
Also the RLIF came out recently and reminded everybody that as Origin does not have test status, technically there is no International rule against playing origin and then representing a country other than Australia. It is only the ARL that says you must make yourself available for Australian rep selection.
(Quotes from article)
If you play origin the controversy over State of Origin eligibility rules is “an Australian issue”, says the Kiwi who heads the Rugby League International Federation.
But in response, Carter has defended the federation’s eligibility rules as “sound and clear” and said any issues around Origin were a by-product of Australia’s requirement that Origin players must declare their allegiance to the Kangaroos.
“It’s been interesting to follow some of the comments from across the Tasman where the inference has been that it’s the international body which needs to look at its eligibility rules,” Carter said.
“But, as many people well know, the RLIF has already looked at its rules and they are sound and quite clear.
Carter said the controversy across the Tasman stemmed from the Australian requirement that Origin players had to make themselves available for Australia.
This was an Australian interpretation. Many players did not realise there was nothing in the federation rules to prevent them playing Origin as well as tests for a different country.
The emphasis in the search for a solution was on Australia, “because it is an Australian issue”.
For example, Warriors star Feleti Mateo could represent Tonga at next year’s world cup even if he achieves his ambition of playing for New South Wales. It’s only once he plays for the Kangaroos that he would then be ineligible.
“The reality is that Feleti has played for Tonga and he remains, at this stage, a Tongan international as long as he doesn’t play an international for any other country that he qualifies for,” Carter said.
July 3rd 2012 @ 12:40pm
oikee said | July 3rd 2012 @ 12:40pm | Report comment
I think you will find that Sonny Bill Willaims is a Queenslander, i seen him at Suncorp a while ago. If he walked on our turf, he is a Queenslander.
Also Kasiano is replacing Petro for next year. Mal gave him and Barba a extra year to be ready. We need some grunt to counteract that Mongrel Willimas and Tamou.
We will sort them this year, but next year we will sort them with Sheer Monster power Kasiano and Dave Taylor, along with Sonny Bill. and Teo the hitman. .
We will make sure they both run back to NZ with their tails between their legs. Pair of nevels.
Not worried about Benji, i think Shaun Johnson wants to play for Queensland.
NSW opened a can of whoop-ass. Queensland are just following suit, we already have Paul Kent like a little girl crying about elegibility rules.
Too late Kenty, you picked a Kiwi mate for NSW a pure 100% kiwi. , game on.
July 3rd 2012 @ 1:13pm
RebelRanger said | July 3rd 2012 @ 1:13pm | Report comment
Sonny Bill played age group NSW (under 16s I think). But of course that means nothing to QLDers.
July 3rd 2012 @ 1:41pm
Michael Steer said | July 3rd 2012 @ 1:41pm | Report comment
Check out where Sterlo and O’Connor were born and played years of footy before suggesting Qld started using roaches!
July 3rd 2012 @ 2:07pm
eagleJack said | July 3rd 2012 @ 2:07pm | Report comment
Sorry are you talking about Michael O’Connor? Cause last time I checked Nowra was in NSW.
And in any case you must know by now it is not where a player is born but where they played their first game of senior football.
But just for a bit of fun this Wednesday night 19 NSW born players will take the field (16 playing for NSW and 3 playing for QLD).
July 3rd 2012 @ 8:18pm
kevin mac said | July 3rd 2012 @ 8:18pm | Report comment
SBW + T-Rex wreaking all kinds of unimagineable havoc against those arrogant Queenslanders….oooohhhhh!!!!
One can only imagine…one can only imagine.
July 4th 2012 @ 2:07am
boby said | July 4th 2012 @ 2:07am | Report comment
I’m sorry but I think you forgot to mention the kiwi queenslanders like tony Carroll, karmichael hunt and Nathan fien come to mind
July 3rd 2012 @ 12:51pm
Go warriors said | July 3rd 2012 @ 12:51pm | Report comment
I think there are plenty of Kiwis that could make an impact in state of origin.
What about Fuifui Moimoi, Frank Pritchard, Ben Matulino, Jarred Whareagraves, Jeremy Smith, Shaun Johnson. These guys would surely have to be certainties. Actualy I dont think any of the players from the current Kiwi team would look out of place in origin.
July 3rd 2012 @ 12:55pm
Dane25 said | July 3rd 2012 @ 12:55pm | Report comment
There is one Kiwi that I would’ve loved to see run amok in the Origin arena, and that’s the destructive and downright frightening Ruben Wiki.
I acknowledge that he left the game a while ago, but I’m betting that even now if he were to be pitchforked in to state battle that he would leave a few opposition forwards looking for a change of undies.
July 3rd 2012 @ 1:10pm
tonysalerno said | July 3rd 2012 @ 1:10pm | Report comment
Those five players would make a very big impact if they were selected in the final origin decider. Jeremy Smith could have also made the list even his outstanding tenacity for the Cronulla Sharks and the rich vain of former he finds himself in.
July 3rd 2012 @ 1:12pm
RebelRanger said | July 3rd 2012 @ 1:12pm | Report comment
THAT’S IT. NSW GETS CHUCK NORRIS !!
July 3rd 2012 @ 4:24pm
adam said | July 3rd 2012 @ 4:24pm | Report comment
as long as Qld get the Hoff