State of Origin III preview: Who will win it?
By Ryan O'Connell, 3 Jul 2012 Ryan O'Connell is a Roar Expert
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And so it has come down to this. After all the talk, all the press, and all the mind games, we head to Brisbane for the deciding match of the 2012 State of Origin series.
The pinnacle of the rugby league calendar has lived up to expectations yet again. While you could argue that the quality of attacking football hasn’t been the very best we’ve seen at this level, the defence has been exceptional. And the tension, the drama, the intensity and the passion have all been of the highest standard.
The New South Wales team has improved tremendously, and shortened the gap between them and Queensland. But they must win in Brisbane, or everything positive they’ve done in the series, and the ground they’ve made up on Queensland, will be completely forgotten.
Meanwhile, Queensland will be buoyed by playing in front of their home crowd, and motivated to farewell Maroons legend Petero Civoniceva in style. There is also the small point of them chasing a seventh consecutive series win.
So, who’s going to actually win the match, and the series? Let’s analyse the key question for each team:
Do NSW know how to win?
It’s a fairly broad and loaded question. However, it’s quite evident to me that the Blues have forgotten how to win. And while that may be understandable given the last six years of Origin football, it won’t be an excuse should they lose game three.
The Maroons were completely out on their feet in the last quarter of game one, but the Blues couldn’t land the killer punch. They were extremely hesitant in attack, a fact best illustrated by Gallen’s decision to kick for goal forty metres out, despite his kicker, Carney, looking rattled all night.
In game two, the Blues should have won by 20 points, but they allowed a soft try on halftime, and though they weathered the expected late onslaught from the Maroons, they could have easily lost a game that they had dominated.
And in both games, the Blues fifth tackle options have been terrible. There has been a lack of variety in their kicking, with bombs the predominant weapon of choice, though often kicked right down a Maroon throat.
It all indicates that the Blues are a team that has forgotten what it takes to win.
Two key ingredients to winning Origin football are mental toughness and execution. NSW will be tested heavily in Brisbane on both of these qualities.
The Maroons will be fired up to play in front of their home ground, and to send Petero Civoniceva out of the Origin arena as a winner. The crowd will be baying for Blues blood. The refs will favour the home team. The environment will as hostile and intimidating as anything the NSW players have ever faced.
In that cauldron atmosphere, with pressure at its absolute highest, will NSW keep their composure and execute their game plan? In essence, do the Blues know how to win?
Is Queensland’s form thus far an indicator, or an aberration?
The Maroons have not played well in the series. It’s a credit to their talent and their heart that they head to Suncorp Stadium still favoured to win their seventh series in a row.
So, are Queensland due for a big game? Or should we judge them on their form?
Queensland are due for a big game. They possess far too much talent, plus a winning mentality, for them to play three consecutive bad games.
However, you can’t ignore the fact that they haven’t played well yet, and need to factor in what effect the Blues have had on their performances. It’s easy to say a team hasn’t played well, but that rarely gives the opposition the credit they deserve for ensuring the other team hasn’t played to their potential.
For example, Cooper Cronk has had a sub-par series, but the Blues rangy backrowers have done a great job of not allowing him a lot of room with the ball in hand. It’s cut down on the amount of time he has to make a decision and then execute it, and he therefore has rushed some plays.
Is that a case of Cronk not playing well, or the Blues not allowing him to play well?
In any case, despite not playing anywhere near their potential, the Maroons won game one, and could have easily won game two. This suggests that the Maroons will only require minimal improvement to win in Brisbane and extend their dynasty.
But will the Blues let them get better?
Prediction?
The heart says NSW. The head says Queensland.
When you’re making a decision, you should always attempt to make it with rational, rather than emotional, thinking. If that was the case, I’d pick Queensland.
They’re more talented. They’re playing at home. They know how to win. They’ll be motivated to send Petero off as a winner. Above all, they’re a truly great rugby league side.
And yet, I’m picking the Blues.
I could defend that decision from a rational point of view quite easily: the Blues have been the better team across the two opening games. Even the most ardent Maroons fan would admit that.
But I’m predicting the Blues will win from an emotional point of view.
Not because I’m from New South Wales and therefore being bias; though I’m sure Roarers north of the border will understandably jump on me for that.
No, the truth is that I get a feeling about this Blues team. Nothing rational, just pure emotion, based on a notion that this team is different to previous incarnations, and has a sense of destiny about it.
It’s the Blues time. Finally.
New South Wales Blues: 16
Queensland Maroons: 12
Ryan is an ex-representative basketballer who shot too much, and a (very) medium pace bowler. He's been with The Roar as an expert since February 2011, has written for the Seven Network and NBA Down Under, and been a regular on ABC radio. Ryan tweets from @RyanOak.

July 3rd 2012 @ 3:52am
trakl said | July 3rd 2012 @ 3:52am | Report comment
What would be a record TV rating in Sydney for any sports event?
July 3rd 2012 @ 5:30am
Gaz said | July 3rd 2012 @ 5:30am | Report comment
NSW last year went with a small mobile pack and became unstuck but this year changed to the big boppers that have allowed them to get off to great starts in both games. Qld on the other hand have struggled to cope with the initial punishment but have gone on to finish well as those big forwards have tired. There in lies your answer, will the Blues game plan work a third time? Does Qld really have the players to absorbe that initial thrust and hold them scoreless in order to allow a typical Maroon finish? I think no and yes on this occasion if for no other reason then home ground advantage.
My only hope is this, that the game is not determined by a controversial refereeing decision and the better team on the night wins.
Sorry Ryan both my heart and head go with Queensland.
July 3rd 2012 @ 9:58am
Ryan O'Connell said | July 3rd 2012 @ 9:58am | Report comment
No need for apologies, Gaz!
July 3rd 2012 @ 7:03am
Steveo said | July 3rd 2012 @ 7:03am | Report comment
Hmmm, not sure I’d agree that NSW were definately the better team throughout both games 1 and 2. In Game 1 they were better at some things in patches, but didn’t look remotely close to scoring points despite their clear possession and territorial advantage. In contrast Queensland withstood the onslaught and then scored when they had their chances – and to be honest looked like they had more points in them. To me, that makes Qld the better team. Game 2, NSW were dominant for longer periods, and were probably the better team, but without the 2 tries while Cronk’s in the bin, do they lose? I have always and will always tip NSW in Sydney, so for QLD to get as close as they did suggests that you were right in saying only minimum improvement is required. And lets not forget a few things; the slow, wet conditions in both games suited NSW immeasurably, where tomorrow it should be dry and fast; QLD were never going to get the fair end of the refereeing decisions in Sydney, as all 50/50 calls went to NSW from refs who were scared for their careers – that should be different tomorrow; deciders are always more open and attacking – that’ll suit Queensland; in addition this article didn’t even mention how NSW will stop GI at fullback, the difference Te’o will make, added motivation caused by the death of Arthur Beetson, or the fact that if NSW goes 12 points down early, they’ll sulk and lose by 24.
Queensland to win; potentially by 3-4 tries – and I really hope that happens to show everyone that NSW aren’t as close as they think they are. They’ll win one soon, but I don’t think it’ll be this year.
July 3rd 2012 @ 7:26am
WobbliesFan said | July 3rd 2012 @ 7:26am | Report comment
“Queensland to win; potentially by 3-4 tries – and I really hope that happens to show everyone that NSW aren’t as close as they think they are”
Pretty much well said…..NSW are not as close as everyone seems to think
July 3rd 2012 @ 8:58am
steve b said | July 3rd 2012 @ 8:58am | Report comment
3 to 4 tries WF – you should put some money on that mate the odds are much closer,,i think if NSW can play the way they did in the first two,, and the refs arn’t inffluenced by the QLD crowd ,, this could be a NSW series win ..Whatever the outcome i think this could end up being one of the toughest origins weve seen,,bring it on cant wait..GO THE BLUES !!
July 3rd 2012 @ 9:54am
WQ said | July 3rd 2012 @ 9:54am | Report comment
steve b, you are the second NSW fan to mention the Refs on this article including the writer, are you starting to make excuses already?
July 3rd 2012 @ 9:57am
Ryan O'Connell said | July 3rd 2012 @ 9:57am | Report comment
Hey, hey, hey! I wasn’t making excuses at all! I was merely saying that the home team normally gets the odd call in their favour, and the away team needs to keep their composure and not freak out and start thinking that they’re getting dudded.
July 3rd 2012 @ 10:07am
WQ said | July 3rd 2012 @ 10:07am | Report comment
Just stirring the pot Ryan, just stirring the pot!
I do sense a little tension amongst the NSW fans though?
July 3rd 2012 @ 11:29am
Ryan O'Connell said | July 3rd 2012 @ 11:29am | Report comment
It’s been a long 6 years!
July 3rd 2012 @ 1:30pm
Casual Poster said | July 3rd 2012 @ 1:30pm | Report comment
Yep, if QLD win tommorow, the next day for the NSW fans it’ll be all about the first game that NSWs “should” have won, but didn’t because of the refs.
If NSW win it will be “What first Game?”
July 3rd 2012 @ 8:13am
Matt said | July 3rd 2012 @ 8:13am | Report comment
The commentators insistently said “can’t wait for origin, nsw will get up” a dozen times during Broncos vs Sharks match. I don’t know what they know, but they seemed pretty sure… too sure.
I hope QLD win, if NSW do win hopefully it’s because they are the better team on the night and not for any other reason.
July 3rd 2012 @ 8:42am
WQ said | July 3rd 2012 @ 8:42am | Report comment
Matt, thats because they are all ex NSW players, the only thing that I don’t mind about it is they have been saying it for 6 YEARS!
July 3rd 2012 @ 10:30am
Dayer said | July 3rd 2012 @ 10:30am | Report comment
Very good WQ, say make it 7 years.
July 3rd 2012 @ 8:34am
jamesb said | July 3rd 2012 @ 8:34am | Report comment
“The heart says NSW. The head says Queensland.”
that sums up my feeling as well. Such a shame that Glenn Stewart is out. He has kepth Thurston quite in the first two games. Will thurston run riot without Stewart been around? Will Beau Scott do the job?
Had Stewart played, it would’ve been the best line up NSW would’ve hoped for. T-Rex is back, coming off the bench. Would he be a factor to consider in the game?
With Inglis moving to fullback, has that weakened QLD’s strike power in the centres with Dane Neilson there?
Will Petreo go out a winner?
Was dropping Dave Taylor a bad mistake?
How will Farah and Scott play, after losing their respective mothers in the last few weeks?
Will Ben Creagh do something constructive for once?
Will Queenslanders have more maroon wigs in the crowd?
Will this be Channel Nines final broadcast of an origin match for a little while?
Can Mitchell Pearce concentrate on the origin game, rather than been distracted by playboy playmate Ciara Price?
Will Todd Carney paint the town blue if NSW wins?
Will there be a fight?
Will Justin Hodges poke his tongue out when he scores a try?
so many questions, but all will be revealed, tomorrow night!
July 3rd 2012 @ 8:55am
jamesb said | July 3rd 2012 @ 8:55am | Report comment
“Will this be Channel Nines final broadcast of an origin match for a little while?”
I don’t think that answer to this question will be revealed tomorrow night. Got carried away
July 3rd 2012 @ 10:31am
Dayer said | July 3rd 2012 @ 10:31am | Report comment
I hope so, can not stand phil gould. and channel 9
July 3rd 2012 @ 9:01am
I'mastormtrooper2 said | July 3rd 2012 @ 9:01am | Report comment
Very good, Jamesb … My hearts says Queensland, but my head says Blue – It will pure and simply boil down to – THE SLATER FACTOR !!! NSW’s forwards where awesome in Game 2 and if they perform like that tomorrow night, the Queensland team will have to rely on their back line … A back line without the world’s best player … But there will be very little in it and of course the fact is, I’ve been wrong before, so maybe it’s best if I start chanting “I THINK THEY CAN!!!” … GO THE MAROONS … and GO GREG INGLIS ,,, although that doesn’t quite sound anywhere near the same as “Go Billy Slater!” … Cheers and good luck to you or me, perhaps …
July 3rd 2012 @ 8:38am
WQ said | July 3rd 2012 @ 8:38am | Report comment
Good Morning Ryan,
You make good sense with your analysis of the whole who will win Origin III and I certainly agree with the main two points that you make i.e. Do NSW know how to win and are QLD in a temporary slump or has the magic gone?
I believe that the biggest factor in this whole equation surrounds NSW and their ability to actually win an Origin series. This wonderful QLD team that I believe has probably been the best Rugby League Team ever, are in decline and there is no doubt about that! Even the most one-eyed QLD fan, which I suspect I might be, would have to admit that. Whilst they still have the nucleus of that great Team they are now living on their former glory and it will be up to NSW to determine how long that will last!
The key to this as you quite rightly have pointed out, is can NSW actually win?
They will not have to make to many mistakes and this QLD Team will grab some of the momentum from their previous glory days and beat them again!
July 3rd 2012 @ 9:02am
B.A Sports said | July 3rd 2012 @ 9:02am | Report comment
I can’t believe the magic is gone for QLD. Cronk and Thurston have been below par (as was Slater) in Origin I and II, but their club form has been pretty good, so individually they haven’t lost the magic.
I’m suprised more has not been made of the no-Lockyer factor.
I think all of the Dave Taylor/Ben Teo/David Williams analysis will have little impact. “Impact forwards” don’t seem to have the same affect in Origin because the game never slows down, so they are no longer “impact forwards”, they are just forwards.
So i think it comes back to the individual class players, and QLD has too many of them.
July 3rd 2012 @ 9:37am
rl said | July 3rd 2012 @ 9:37am | Report comment
BA, I respectfully disagree re impact players – T-Rex had a huge impact in Game 1, and could do so again in Game 3. Ricky has a real strike weapon there, and the timing of when he introduces him will play a key role. Qld will have to have a plan ready for when he comes on, which is a massive plus for NSW.
QLD have clearly missed impact off the bench, 3 honest toilers are great but ain’t enough to win you the game. Taylor is mentally AWOL, Gillett isn’t quite there yet (but could prove me wrong), so it’s a coin-toss on whether Te’o can bring it. A T-Rex type effort off the bench would potentially create gap that Thursto has been sweating on all series. Still makes me wonder if it wasn’t worth going with a Bowen or Barba off the bench.
July 3rd 2012 @ 9:37am
mushi said | July 3rd 2012 @ 9:37am | Report comment
My optimism as a Maroon is based on:
- Slater’s errors have been as defining a part of the game as anything else for QLD. I have no doubt that if he was healthy he’d do a great job and put those two matches behind him, but that said I’m glad Inglis will be able to have more ball from full back. He has looked like our best one on one option. He also goes kind of okay under the high ball which seems to be plan A through Z for Pearce.
- NSW attack. Game two showed me no increased creativity. Carney burst through a poor tackle and NSW took advantage of the opportunity with the hayne kick. Outside of that it was again 2 meagre line breaks off the back of a lack of creativity with the ball despite feeling like they would have “outplayed” their opponent.
- Game two we played the fwd battle to a draw but NSW took their shots and we gave up some critical errors (plus a little 12 man action). I like our pack more in this game than in the first two as Taylor has been a passenger and we’ve got Thaiday back.
Reasons for concern
- T rex looked a beast in game one. So maybe NSW backs have been shown there is no rule against backing this guy up and hitting a hole.
July 3rd 2012 @ 11:32am
Ryan O'Connell said | July 3rd 2012 @ 11:32am | Report comment
I love GI at fullback, however I do question whether he can cover the ground that Slater can. A large reason why the NSW bombs have been so ineffective is because Slater can get to open space so quickly.
Inglis is no slouch, but his initial acceleration is not as quick as Slater’s.
July 3rd 2012 @ 11:50am
B.A Sports said | July 3rd 2012 @ 11:50am | Report comment
So to counter that, you would expect that the QLD’ers will be told they need to put pressure on the NSW halves and their kicking game. Chances of a ref penalising QLD for being inside the 10 on the last tackle, in a deciding Origin match, in QLD = zero. Expect a skinny 10 on the fifth and last.
July 3rd 2012 @ 12:30pm
Charles said | July 3rd 2012 @ 12:30pm | Report comment
I think the game will be won in the halves on both sides. Thurston & Cronk will create havoc with our defence if allowed to roam! Pearce & Carney will want to get their attack in order, especially with their kicking game and utilising our backline much more then they have been. Putting pressure on these two will enhance QLD chances greatly. If I was Ricky Stuart I would get Hayne to kick the ball dead, keeping it away from Inglis and allow the defence to get their line intact.
July 3rd 2012 @ 1:04pm
The Barry said | July 3rd 2012 @ 1:04pm | Report comment
Let me guess…let’s get Soward in there…
July 3rd 2012 @ 1:24pm
Charles said | July 3rd 2012 @ 1:24pm | Report comment
Now you are being silly The Barry!
July 3rd 2012 @ 2:32pm
mushi said | July 3rd 2012 @ 2:32pm | Report comment
Can’t really see that being an issue. He’s not getting around in a wheelchair right?
I will be stunned if Inglis is flat out not quick enough to get to an attacking bomb that neither of his wingers can get to either. The other 14 fullbacks in the league slower than Slater seem to go alright.
As to the rest Slater was hands down utterly woeful fielding kicks so long as Greg doesn’t have a seizure I’m sure he’ll be at least on par with what billy delivered the past two games. In the first game Billy used his great acceleration to get himself out of position.
July 3rd 2012 @ 2:43pm
Ryan O'Connell said | July 3rd 2012 @ 2:43pm | Report comment
It was actually more of a compliment to Slater than a dig at Inglis, Mushi.
I’m not saying it will be an issue for Queensland, it’s just Slater is so fast that he gets into position to diffuse bombs, AND counter-attack straight away. I don’t think GI will be that fast. But having said that, his strength enables him to counter-attack without a running start, so it’s much a muchness.
July 3rd 2012 @ 3:25pm
mushi said | July 3rd 2012 @ 3:25pm | Report comment
I think speed is more of an asset when fielding deeper kicks (more area to cover fewer people to cover it).
The flip side of the GI Slater comparison on the bomb is their size difference means “in position” is a very different thing. GI doesn’t need to be in quite the same spot as Slater to get to the same ball. Whilst I’m hoping he doesn’t go the one hander all night Wednesday that did show the difference that standing reach brings.
Agree his speed on the counter big gap but Slater hasn’t given any of that yet this series, Billy hasn’t been Billy. Which is odd given his club form. You can credit NSW with a lot of the subduing of the QLD ball players and creating errors there, but Billy’s have been more of his own making getting out of position in Melbourne in particular. The injury didn’t help but he didn’t look that great prior to it either.
July 3rd 2012 @ 3:23pm
I'mastormtrooper2 said | July 3rd 2012 @ 3:23pm | Report comment
mushy – Perhaps you’d be best checking out the video’s of game 1 and 2, because Slater does more on a footy field then just take high balls … When I read the player ratings he scored 7.5 – 8 for game 1 and made two errors in the air … In game 2 he was rated a 5 and a 7 in the player ratings I read, attacked every high balll that came his way, supported play and tackled as well as anyone on the field, on one leg for 3/4 of the game … Billy Slater as an athlete would run circles around any player in the game, if his performance on Rexona’s Greatest Athlete is an indicator … Greg Inglis wouldn’t go within cooee of Slater on that score, because their statures and their approach to playing are so very different … Billy Slater is 29yo, 5′ 10″ and 14 stone and Greg Inglis is 24yo, 6′ 5″ and 16.5 stone … The general concesus is that Slater, the mischief maker, plays like a jack rabbit for 80 minutes – weaving his way through the manouvres, injecting himself into play, as in Game 1 when two of his off loads resulted in tries … Inglis a more flagmatic character, hangs back, reserving his energy, awaiting the set plays to inject himself from the back to run around the defence to score … Due to the heavy defensive duties in Game 2, Greg Inglis was unable to get his attacking game into many plays, he became worn out and weary, but he wasn’t alone … In game 2, the NSW’s big men, hurt the attacking force and structure of Qld, and tomorrow night will be the only proof that Queensland can take out their 7th series in a row, with or without the best fullback in the business sitting in the stands … Or whether Greg Inglis takes the opportunity to steal the game away from the Blue’s, as Slater has done many times … Maybe it just boils down to Slater has the football brain and Inglis has the footballl brawn !!!
July 3rd 2012 @ 3:40pm
mushi said | July 3rd 2012 @ 3:40pm | Report comment
Really Slater does more than just take high balls? Here I was thinking he got all those accolades for diffusing 5 or 6 bombs a match. Well blow me down. Next you’re going to tell me they play with a oval shaped ball in this crazy game!
I was responding to Ryan’s comment of “A large reason why the NSW bombs have been so ineffective is because Slater can get to open space so quickly.” Perhaps you best check the video of the comment before mine?
There was no jack rabbit, player rating or rexona athlete mention in sight.
That said Slater would be the first to say he has been below his best.
In neither game was he the play making jack rabbit rexona endorsing god beast that he can be, part of that was NSW shutting down the outside ball and part of that seemed to be that he was uncharacteristically out of position. his positioning for kicks in particular in game two seemed very very off – not bombs but deep kicks where he should be all over it. Whether it was injury or not it still happened.
Also I did say:
“I have no doubt that if he was healthy he’d do a great job and put those two matches behind him”
In other words I think regardless of if it was Inglis or slater at the back we would get more from the fullback position this game and the bright side is GI gets the ball a bit more often.
July 3rd 2012 @ 4:13pm
I'mastormtrooper2 said | July 3rd 2012 @ 4:13pm | Report comment
Mushy, no need to take your shirt off mate … My opinions are mearly an expression of my interest in rugby league of 50 years, and not that I have ever played the game, I’m only giving a point of view – It doesn’t mean I’m right, or you for that matter … Billy is the current Dally M winner and fullback … In 2012 Slater is currently sitting at #2 in the Dally M’s, has played SOO and is now out injured … His first six games of the season was so outstanding the media touted him as a future immortal … This week he was rated at #29 of the 101 best ever players, ahead of every other player in the game today … My comments was to throw it out there, what I was stating was the obvious differences between the styles of play and athleticism of the two men, because you appear to overlook that perspective … Greg, can’t do what Billy does and visa versa, and there are obvious physical reasons for that … There are still 10 games before the 2012 finals begin and it’s anyone’s guess of who will become de munk, de munk, but I hoping and wishing that the Maroon’s win Game 3 and Melbourne Storm take out the Premiership …
July 3rd 2012 @ 9:42am
eagleJack said | July 3rd 2012 @ 9:42am | Report comment
“But will the Blues let them get better”.
Ryan, I think this is your best point. Nobody on either side of the border can deny that the Maroons have not played to the lofty expectations they have set for themselves. But that has almost entirely been due to the fact that NSW have brought an incredible amount of aggression that has rattled them. I was expecting QLD to step up in Game II after a lacklustre Game I but again NSW didn’t afford them the opportunity. What will happen in Game III is anybody’s guess.
For those (Stevo and WobbliesFan) who think that NSW are not as close as everyone thinks – well I sense this is just you letting that little guy below your belt do the thinking for you again. These teams are close. As seen by the fact that both games have been won and lost when one team had a player in the bin.
My thoughts are that Slater is a huge loss while the addition of Tony Williams is a huge gain. Does that swing the pendulum in the Blues favour? I think so but it really is too close to call. All I know is that this game will be an absolute cracker!!
July 3rd 2012 @ 9:50am
WQ said | July 3rd 2012 @ 9:50am | Report comment
eagleJack, you are accurate re your comments about the games being won whilst a player was in the bin.
Hopefully the Refs will grow some balls and sin bin Gallen if he repeats his performance of Referee abuse in game 3! If so QLD should win.
July 3rd 2012 @ 9:58am
eagleJack said | July 3rd 2012 @ 9:58am | Report comment
It’s a fair point you raise WQ. If Gallen was to speak to the refs the way he has in the previous two games then they would have every right to send him to the bin. But in such a crucial match, would they do it? Im leaning towards no chance.
I want a full game of 13 v 13. No controversy. Just good, hard footy.
July 3rd 2012 @ 10:11am
WQ said | July 3rd 2012 @ 10:11am | Report comment
You are probably right eagleJack, I can’t see them sending anybody off this time around, however I for one can’t believe that he continues to get away with it?
I agree it will be a much better spectacle if there is a full game of 13 v 13
July 3rd 2012 @ 12:29pm
Boydy said | July 3rd 2012 @ 12:29pm | Report comment
How is it that EVERY time a New South Welshman makes a comment about a referee he’s a whinger yet Qldrs can bang on adnausiam about referees and refereeing decisions and it’s all OK.
Did you read Meninga’s column in the Sunday Mail last weekend? What a crock of sh*t! His comments about how Qld “DONT” complain and just accept every referees’ decision were so thinly veiled he certainly wouldn’t be able to give the article to a Muslim woman to wear.
I heard as much complaining from Qldrs after game 2 as I did from New South Welshmen after game one but the difference is when a Blue comments it’s whinging, when it comes from a Cane Toad it’s some kind of “informal critique” . Phwettt!
July 3rd 2012 @ 3:16pm
WQ said | July 3rd 2012 @ 3:16pm | Report comment
Your not on the right track Boydy, we were talking about players abusing Referees on the paddock not anything anybody had said in the media.
What is said after the game is done by reporters or bloggers like ourselves that have very little influence on the result or the behaviour of our kids when they are playing the game.
Unfortunately Gallen’s spray of Referees can influence the result and our kids!
July 3rd 2012 @ 12:47pm
Steveo said | July 3rd 2012 @ 12:47pm | Report comment
Last year a “worse than this year” NSW team beat a “better than this year” Queensland team 18-8 in Sydney in Game 2, before coming to Suncorp all gung-ho and getting belted (as in, this year’s QLD team got closer in Sydney than last year’s team, who won easily in Game III). You are not putting enough emphasis on home ground advantage and the advantage a dry track will bring to Queensland. I also forgot to mention the impact the loss of G Stewart will have. While sometimes I do think with the little guy below the belt, this time I’m basing my theories on precedent. I’m also basing the “NSW aren’t as close as they think” on the fact that few of the NSW team would make the QLD team. This article was based around the fact that QLD are a superior team and a dogged NSW have done a good job to contain them thus far, a fact that few would argue. I just think that up here, it’ll be a lot harder for NSW to do the same containment job (i.e it will be a very different game to the first two)… just like it was last year.
July 3rd 2012 @ 9:50am
rl said | July 3rd 2012 @ 9:50am | Report comment
Ryan – on the form of this series, it pains me to admit my head says NSW. They were desperately unlucky in Game 1, and Qld were lucky to keep it close in Game 2. Yes, Qld’s key players have been relatively quiet this series, but I think that is due to NSW’s fantastic defence patterns and application, not a lack of form. And you’d have to say that NSW main defensive ‘gap’ has been closed with the omission of Uate.
Inglis to fullback creates a new dilemma for NSW, as he clearly hasn’t seen enough of the pill this series. Do NSW try to run him ragged, or kick away from him? Neilsen is a very solid player and in good form, but I don’t think he’s giving any of his opposition nightmares. (That said, he plays with Cronk and Smith every week, so knows what lines to run and the timing. Was it game 2 where Cronk made a big break and no-one was in support? I suspect Neilsen will be sweating on those moments, and it only takes one to turn a game)
My big disclaimer on all of the above – Farah must, MUST turn up again, as do Carney and/or Pearce. The latter two have been a bit hit-and-miss this series, but the form of Farah and the presence of G Stewart has compensated for that. No Stewart this time, and although T-Rex brings the heat off the bench, who is going to step up in his absence to (a) shadow Thurston and (b) play that extra ball-player?