Let’s make tight jerseys a thing of the past
By FraggleWrangler, 5 Jul 2012 FraggleWrangler is a Roar Rookie
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Those of us with rugby memories longer than ten years will remember the good old days before the 2003 Rugby World Cup. I’m not talking about the sight of Joe Roff diving over the goal-line against the Lions, or Kefu burrowing under the posts in John Eales’ last match, I’m referring to something even more noble – the old rugby jersey.
What a wonderful creation of cloth it was. Loose and comfortable in summer, and over little more than a t-shirt, warm in winter.
Rugged and sturdy, you could wear it outdoors – fishing, camping, digging, anywhere. Kept clean it was virtually formal wear, and any place with a dress code that didn’t allow you in the door was not a place you’d want to drink in anyway.
That sacred robe of your tribal colours would last for years, even decades, advertising your past and present sporting fancies, even telling part of your life story and history.
I can still wear my late father’s jersey, one that was last worn of a playing field back when Menzies was Prime Minister. Those old jerseys would get more comfortable the longer you had them, and only your widening girth in older age prevented you from wearing your high school jersey to your 25-year reunion.
They truly were a miracle of design in a simpler age.
Then darkness descended over the rugby world.
In 2003 the England team arrived in Australia wearing something that looked more at home at a velodrome than a rugby field. During the World Cup that year the French too, pranced around wearing something that made them look like rejects from the Tour de France.
Unfortunately England won the cup that year and no matter how convincing their performance on the field – even when they were holding the cup in their hands doing that god-awful ‘soccer bounce’ on the podium – you just couldn’t take them seriously when they looked like they were wearing spray-on spandex.
Of course the rest of the world followed, and now supporters are unable to wear accurate replica playing jerseys without looking like a complete goose. Players and pundits everywhere pleaded with the powers that be to go back to the old jerseys, but the playing advantages were obvious. Slicker and harder to tackle, they gave a slight advantage you’d be silly to ignore.
But now fans of the old jerseys have a new argument to use against these lycra leotards – how about the difficulty getting a bind in the scrum? Old jerseys used in some clubs even added extra layers around the shoulders for forwards, and cross stitching like a judo shirt.
Last year at a function I asked Jake White and Laurie Fisher why there were so fewer collapses and resets in footage of old wallaby matches from the 80s and 90s. One answer that came up was the new jerseys. Without a proper bind, props have their work cut out just trying to stay horizontal.
So how do we undo the damage? I had a quick look at the IRB rules and regulations regarding attire, and there are no set rules for the jersey, only that one should be worn, and Regulation 12 focuses on padding, not the actual jersey itself.
The addition of two simple lines into regulation 12 would solve the problem:
“The jersey shall be made of durable material and of solid construction. The jersey shall be loose fitting, allowing at least 2cm of slack around the shoulders and torso.”
So how about it Roarers? Should we as a group make enough noise for our respective unions to hear. Lets banish these glorified latex undershirts to the dustbin of history where they belong. The revolution begins here.
Quick poll: Should IRB rules be altered to abolish the modern style jersey?
- Yes, the sooner we return to the old style the better
- No, I like the skin-tight jerseys as they are
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July 5th 2012 @ 7:51am
Deez said | July 5th 2012 @ 7:51am | Report comment
Like your thinking and had similar thoughts myself, even though it would make it easier to get tackled. I used to think that it was only required for the props, but it would probably be advantageous to a team to have at least the tight five in looser jerseys to allow better binds at scrum time.
Backs can still show off their muscles in the spandex though – no need to slow them down.
July 5th 2012 @ 8:36am
FraggleWrangler said | July 5th 2012 @ 8:36am | Report comment
My thought is – one in, all in. If the rules force a return to the old jersey, then both teams will be wearing them. Both would be on a level playing field. Also I believe it is already illegal for a player to be tackled by the collar.
Maybe the Australian teams could all agree to wear old-style jerseys in the home derbies?
July 5th 2012 @ 12:15pm
Deez said | July 5th 2012 @ 12:15pm | Report comment
Agree so far as all teams being in – absolutely would need it to be consistent across teams.
July 5th 2012 @ 8:15am
Miss MC said | July 5th 2012 @ 8:15am | Report comment
The traditionalist side of me agrees but I’m female so I’ve kinda enjoyed the gradual tightening of the jerseys..
July 5th 2012 @ 11:07am
sixo_clock said | July 5th 2012 @ 11:07am | Report comment
And there’s the rub,… do we cater for the viewing/perving (in the nicest way of course) of half our potential audience and the influential role they have with their little charges or do we look back? Possibly there is a happy medium that some bright spark designers may offer but they won’t necessarily be reading this forum. To say it is not good enough in some applications is not enough. We need to be part of providing a workable solution.
On the plus side the new style makes dumb higher tackles less effective (more breaks), looks sharp on athletes except when they ask for help to put it on, thats a wee bit suss but wives can identify with that, ensures the sponsors logos are fully and attractively displayed, often have sweat wicking properties, don’t retain water in the rain and seem to stay cleaner.
The down side seems only to be the bind for the props and going back to the (good old, halcyon, salad) days when scrums came together and bound before movement will fix that. The ‘hit’ is the problem with scrums, it has absolutely no Rugby function whatsoever and when the IRB gets that message and does something about it we will remove the majority of resets overnight.
July 5th 2012 @ 11:31am
redsnut said | July 5th 2012 @ 11:31am | Report comment
Totally agree about the hit. I’ve been banging on about that for ages.
July 5th 2012 @ 2:29pm
Kuruki said | July 5th 2012 @ 2:29pm | Report comment
A simple area of loose material where the bind is made on the props jerseys would solve everything. Thing is, why would any team do it? They don’t want the opposition to bind on them. This would have to be made compulsory from the top.
July 5th 2012 @ 2:34pm
Kuruki said | July 5th 2012 @ 2:34pm | Report comment
Spoken like a true back. LOL. Mate the hit is everything in the scrum. It has a massive Rugby function. If you win the hit you unsteady your opposition, the ball goes in and you smash the weight on before they have time to set themselves again. The hit is everything in the scrum. Why do you think teams are still giving away penalties for engaging early? It’s because winning the hit is crucial and they are always trying to beat the other side to the call.
July 5th 2012 @ 7:49pm
Poppy said | July 5th 2012 @ 7:49pm | Report comment
Have to agree with you there Miss MC…
Perhaps some handles on the backs of the front rowers’ jerseys as someone once suggested… Then everyone wins!
July 5th 2012 @ 8:24am
Red Kev said | July 5th 2012 @ 8:24am | Report comment
I agree wholeheartedly, bring back looser jerseys, noone likes to see supertight material stretched over a props guts.
July 5th 2012 @ 8:24am
DingoBob said | July 5th 2012 @ 8:24am | Report comment
Totally agree, it only has to be for the Front Row.
July 5th 2012 @ 8:26am
Justin2 said | July 5th 2012 @ 8:26am | Report comment
Agree, one of the easiest things the IRB could do to help improve the scrum.
July 5th 2012 @ 11:14am
Blinky Bill of Bellingen said | July 5th 2012 @ 11:14am | Report comment
It seems so obvious.
How the hell wasn’t it sorted out before being approved is another of Rugby’s mysteries.
July 5th 2012 @ 8:31am
Pillock said | July 5th 2012 @ 8:31am | Report comment
It’s a pity that a nation’s test jersey looks like something a 12 yo would wear to a skate park.
The best look for the Australian strip was the one they wore during the early 90′s. It would be good to get back to that one.
I am not naive enough to think it will happen, just wish it would.
July 5th 2012 @ 8:39am
FraggleWrangler said | July 5th 2012 @ 8:39am | Report comment
All it takes is for one supporter to convince one player, to convince one coach to have a word to one ARU executive, to pass it on to one IRB council representative, who could mention it at the next IRB meeting.
Stranger things have happened
July 5th 2012 @ 9:16am
moaman said | July 5th 2012 @ 9:16am | Report comment
” It’s a pity that a nation’s test jersey looks like something a 12 yo would wear to a skate park. ” I agree,but that is the point isn’t it? They WANT them purchased and worn to the skate park…….
As an aside-I awoke to news that AIG are trying to get their logo plastered all over the ABs’ strip……sign of the times?
July 5th 2012 @ 8:42am
turbodewd said | July 5th 2012 @ 8:42am | Report comment
Tight jerseys make it hard to effect a jersey-grab tackle. Only a mug would wear a loose jersey to aid the defence. Note that in the NFL tight jerseys are a must so that no advantage is given to the defence.
July 5th 2012 @ 9:23am
The Battered Slav said | July 5th 2012 @ 9:23am | Report comment
Yep, the one thing that once separated the gentlemen of rugby from the rest of the sporting world was the pure cotton collared jersey.
Leave the lycra t shirts elsewhere.
Scrums, mauls and general tight play would all be a lot tighter if this reversion occurred.
July 5th 2012 @ 9:30am
B-Rock said | July 5th 2012 @ 9:30am | Report comment
I, like most would prefer the old jerseys but thisnk its unlikely to change. If this is all about the scrum, just have the LHP and THP wear looser jerseys, particularly around the shoulders and arms. Shouldnt have any major impact in terms of getting tackled as they are rarely in the loose anyway
July 5th 2012 @ 9:34am
Kel said | July 5th 2012 @ 9:34am | Report comment
The jersey worn by most,today…I would not buy.Would not wear at a post-match social,or feel like wearing in public,anywhere.
Old school may be passe’ but they do look good,for the most part.
Miss MC in a tight kit maybe,but give me my nice loose jumper anyday.
July 5th 2012 @ 9:40am
Brett McKay said | July 5th 2012 @ 9:40am | Report comment
Of course, they even make two versions of the jersey to sell, knowing that the punter probably doesn’t want to wear the rash vest-style jersey, and so they make a “supporter” version that looks like a rugby jumper should.
But then that just becomes yet another item of merchandise, and you can hardly see the marketing dept allowing fewer merch lines, can you…
July 5th 2012 @ 3:53pm
Rob from Brumby Country said | July 5th 2012 @ 3:53pm | Report comment
Another alternative would perhaps be to design a supporter’s jersey and make it the only Wallabies jersey on the market.
That way, the actual Wallabies jersey could resemble whatever the ARU deemed appropriate, and being confined to just Wallaby players, it might even develop a little bit of an aura like the Baggy Green. A bit of pride in the jersey, yeknow?
July 5th 2012 @ 3:54pm
Rob from Brumby Country said | July 5th 2012 @ 3:54pm | Report comment
Not sure how you’d get KooGa on board, though…