The demise of the Gold Coast Suns
By Steven Coleman, 5 Jul 2012 Steven Coleman is a Roar Rookie
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Like many, I thought the beginning of the Gold Coast Suns was going to be the start of something special.
From the moment they took the field against Carlton they had a team of promising youngsters with a sprinkling of experienced stars, led by Gary Ablett.
After being blown off the park in their first three games, they came back from 40 points down to beat Port Adelaide at AAMI Stadium, to record the first win in their history by 3 points.
Just two weeks later, they took down their closest rivals, the Brisbane Lions, in the first Q Clash by seven points. Two good wins either side of letting through 15 goals to Essendon in the first quarter on the way to a 139 point smashing at Etihad Stadium.
So much talent was on display, yet it only yielded one more win for the year, against Richmond at Cazaly Stadium in Cairns, the last place you would expect to find an AFL match being played.
Fast forward to 2012, they were in search of improvement, mainly to be competitive in more games. But they are fast gaining a reputation for second half fade-outs. In front or behind by a couple of points at half time has resulted in a 50 point plus loss almost every time.
But by far the lowest point of their season so far was their humiliating 26 point loss to Greater Western Sydney, a side who they were expected to beat convincingly and the first time they have gone into a game as the favourite.
Conceding the last five goals of the game, including four in the last five minutes, put the pressure right on the Suns, who were expected to continue their development from the previous year. As the season has progressed, it is clear that the suns have an unhealthy reliance on Gary Ablett, a man who puts in everything for this club.
This reliance became evident against Collingwood in round 10, where Ablett racked up an equal record 53 possessions. Normally, a feat such as this would be praised, especially considering that the suns lost the match by 97 points.
But it is because he was the only person who put up any resistance this has been criticised. No disrespect to Gary Ablett, but if you have 53 possessions in a second year side, it shows that there is such a reliance on him, to the point where if he doesn’t play there is no resistance at all.
It is fair to say that Gary is one of the only players who are pulling their own weight at the Suns. Their recruiting of experienced players has been disastrous. Jared Brennan, Campbell Brown, Josh Fraser, Jarrod Harbrow and Michael Rischitelli are all either struggling with injury and/or form, and Daniel Harris and Nathan Krakouer have both retired.
With the obvious exception of Ablett, Sam Iles and Danny Stanley are the two experienced players who they have got right. The two played 7 and 5 games respectively for Collingwood and are both forging solid careers.
Nathan Bock had been a success until he broken his leg. Of last year’s recruiting, they picked up experienced duo Matthew Warnock and Andrew McQualter, both honest competitors but neither showing great form this year.
Where has all their great first year talent gone – nowhere. Of all the talented youngsters, you can say only 3 have kicked on from last year. Harley Bennell is a young star, Josh Caddy is over his injuries and when David Swallow returns from injury, he will continue his good form from last year.
Gold Coast’s current losing streak currently stands at 20, stretching back to their round 17 win against Richmond last year. Looking forward this year, with nine rounds to go, the only games where they should stand a possible chance are against Melbourne and Greater Western Sydney in Rounds 19 and 20.
Unless anything changes, they look set to become the first team since Fitzroy in 1964 to go winless through an AFL season.
As they prepare for this Sunday’s game against Geelong, which will certainly result in a massive win to the Cats, Gary Ablett must surely ask himself the question – Why did I leave Geelong?
As a Collingwood supporter it pains me to say this, but if Gary was playing in last year’s decider, the end result would have been greater, he could have had a Norm Smith Medal, and another Brownlow.
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July 5th 2012 @ 8:18am
GCS said | July 5th 2012 @ 8:18am | Report comment
The win loss column is worse this year, but the percentage is about the same. Another possible win could be Richmond at Cazaly next week.
July 5th 2012 @ 11:37am
Jaceman said | July 5th 2012 @ 11:37am | Report comment
Doing it tough but as we repeated ly say in for the long haul
July 5th 2012 @ 12:22pm
Cman said | July 5th 2012 @ 12:22pm | Report comment
So were Gold Coast United
July 5th 2012 @ 1:32pm
TW said | July 5th 2012 @ 1:32pm | Report comment
This club is not under private ownership – big difference. They need to win at least a couple but the kids are worn out because they had no run at all last Saturday in second half at Subi.
Apparently Solomon is the assistant to Bluey – They need someone with recent succesful coaching experience and Blight is not the answer. However the club thinks so.
July 5th 2012 @ 3:28pm
Macca said | July 5th 2012 @ 3:28pm | Report comment
Yeah this club will keep having money poured into it as the AFL is too proud to ever admit defeat.
July 5th 2012 @ 1:40pm
Ian Whitchurch said | July 5th 2012 @ 1:40pm | Report comment
More crud subediting from The Roar.
The title has nothing to do with the article. Something more honest would have been “Suns underachieve in 2012″.
July 5th 2012 @ 1:42pm
Redb said | July 5th 2012 @ 1:42pm | Report comment
The original title was ” Gold Coast could go without a win in their second year”
Somehow it got turned into “the demise of the Suns” – have they folded?
Better let AFL HQ know Roar editors? lol What a scoop.
July 5th 2012 @ 1:50pm
Ian Whitchurch said | July 5th 2012 @ 1:50pm | Report comment
RedB,
This is because The Roar’s subediting is woeful. They continually make up headlines that have nothing to do with the article.
Whats worse is that readers dont know that the misleading and inflammatory headline isnt the fault of the author who’s name is listed – its some other, anonymous, person.
July 5th 2012 @ 3:30pm
Macca said | July 5th 2012 @ 3:30pm | Report comment
Underachieve Ian? Last year when people were predicting 5-6 wins and they got three might have been underachieving, this year is a lot worse than simply “underachieving”.
July 5th 2012 @ 6:21pm
TW said | July 5th 2012 @ 6:21pm | Report comment
You obviously think that the two new clubs are a waste of time – Just come out and say it.
July 5th 2012 @ 8:14pm
Ian Whitchurch said | July 5th 2012 @ 8:14pm | Report comment
He also thinks Carlton arent soft, which shows how much he knows about footy.
July 6th 2012 @ 8:47am
Macca said | July 6th 2012 @ 8:47am | Report comment
Yep Ian and you would dump Carrazzo from the blues side for Karmichael Hunt because his bumping is going to revolutionise the game, how is that going? Carrazzo still getting 25 plus possessions and hunt getting what 15?
July 6th 2012 @ 9:55am
Redb said | July 6th 2012 @ 9:55am | Report comment
Carazzo is soft. One tackle and he crumples like a cheap Korean import car.
July 6th 2012 @ 10:13am
Macca said | July 6th 2012 @ 10:13am | Report comment
I seem to remember the great Hunt putting on his wobbly boots this year too.
July 6th 2012 @ 11:38am
Macca said | July 6th 2012 @ 11:38am | Report comment
Further to the point on “underachieving” here are the home crowd stats;
Year Games Total Average
2012 6 76,649 12,775
2011 11 210,859 19,169
So no wins and 1/3 less attending games but it is only “undreachieving”.
July 6th 2012 @ 1:01pm
GCS said | July 6th 2012 @ 1:01pm | Report comment
The attendances are misrepresented a bit I feel.
Last year they played their first two home game at the Gabba getting 28,000 and 25,000. That included the first ever game factor against Carlton and also a ‘home’ match against Brisbane.
Also, another event was the first ever game at Metricon agaisnt Geelong (21,000).
This year there has only been one big drawcard and that was Essendon. Collingwood don’t play there this year, so that will have an effect.
Let’s see what the figures are at the end of the year after Geelong, Brisbane and Carlton play there.
July 6th 2012 @ 1:11pm
Macca said | July 6th 2012 @ 1:11pm | Report comment
GCS – They’ll have to average 27,000 over the next 5 games to match last year.
While it is true the 3 “first” games did boost the numbers last year it doesn’t explain all the drop off and if they are relying on visiting teams to supply the crowd it doesn’t bode well.
July 6th 2012 @ 1:18pm
GCS said | July 6th 2012 @ 1:18pm | Report comment
Macca, the drop off is there because people don’t want to go and see a team get thrashed all the time. Not that hard to understand. Doesn’t necessarily mean that those people that ave dropped off don’t like the game anymore.
Once the team is more competitive, the crowds will come back and the membership will rise again.
You tell me, how would any HAL or RL team go crowd wise, if they lost 20 games in a row?
July 6th 2012 @ 1:25pm
Brewski said | July 6th 2012 @ 1:25pm | Report comment
Macca, GC are never going to average Melbourne Perth Adelaide Sydney or Brisbane type crowds, but with a competetive team, a growing area and a growing grass roots base they will probably average between 15-20k.
Remember the team does not have to be world beaters, but just competetive, especially at home, 15-20k is achievable and would be the expectation.
I don’t see what the issue is, they can not get much lower than present.
July 6th 2012 @ 1:29pm
Macca said | July 6th 2012 @ 1:29pm | Report comment
GCS – What makes you so certain the crowds will come back? What are Sydney attracting after 30 years and a decade of finals appearances? And why is success assured in the future, Ablett will be 29 at the start of next season, many of the other experienced recrutis have been underwhelming and the high draft picks aren’t guaranteed of becoming stars or staying at a club that is getting belted each week.
And while you are right that results and crowds are linked it is exactly my point, GCS supporters (even those who simply support the concept) expected better results and therefore better crowds this year.
July 6th 2012 @ 1:38pm
Macca said | July 6th 2012 @ 1:38pm | Report comment
Brewski – I am not saying they should be averaging the same asMelbourne Perth or Adelaide but the should be aiming for at least Brisbane and Sydney and they should be building crowds not seeing the drop by 1/3.
They can get lower, 12,000 lower. If they end up with one win this year (I assume they can’t lose to GWS twice) and get belted in the first few games again next year the crowds will drop further.
July 6th 2012 @ 1:44pm
Brewski said | July 6th 2012 @ 1:44pm | Report comment
Macca, nothing is set in stone, but the GC has quite a strong grass roots base and a area that southern footy fans will visit during winter to see their teams and enjoy the GC, the backing of one of the biggest clubs in QLD, the Southport AF club, and the GC is a fast growing city.
All those signs are good, the team ATM is not good, that will in all liklehood change, therefore the future has many positives.
Success breeds success.
But by the same token, it’s going to be a battle, no one thought otherwise.
July 6th 2012 @ 1:49pm
GCS said | July 6th 2012 @ 1:49pm | Report comment
Because I know people that were members last year, that dropped off this year purely because it was hard to keep fronting up to a thrashing. They have gone to the odd match where they thought the Suns might have a chance.
I’m not saying success is guaranteed, but being competitive for 4 quarters will make a difference. Not sure about Sydney as I don’t live there, but from what I hear it is not easy to get around, so maybe their crowds aren’t too bad.
People were expecting better results, but maybe in hindsight the number of wins expected was unrealistic. It’s probably not as simple as 3 wins in the first year, 6 in the second, 10 in the third.
If the results were better, but the crowds were worse, then that would be a concern.
July 6th 2012 @ 1:55pm
Macca said | July 6th 2012 @ 1:55pm | Report comment
Brewski – “But by the same token, it’s going to be a battle, no one thought otherwise.” That is contrary to many many posts on this site.
GCS – “maybe in hindsight the number of wins expected was unrealistic. It’s probably not as simple as 3 wins in the first year, 6 in the second, 10 in the third.” Exactly, hower again many on this site had that very expectation, even talking premierships within 5 years and when I offered the alternate view I was pilloried.
“I know people that were members last year, that dropped off this year purely because it was hard to keep fronting up to a thrashing. They have gone to the odd match where they thought the Suns might have a chance.” That’s what you are looking for in a supporter, I’ll go if we win but otherwise you are on your own.
July 6th 2012 @ 1:56pm
Brewski said | July 6th 2012 @ 1:56pm | Report comment
Think you have nailed it GCS, crap team = crowds down, good team = crowds up, competetive team = renewed memberships and possibly crowds up.
In GCS case, a competetive team ( win some home games at least !) would have seen a renewal of memberships, and probably some new fans, and possibly more southern fans travelling to see a competetive game.
Not only are the GC a crap team … they are the crappest … no offence GCS !.
July 6th 2012 @ 2:02pm
Brewski said | July 6th 2012 @ 2:02pm | Report comment
Macca, hindsight is a beautiful thing, i had no idea whther they were going to be world beaters or not, but by all accounts they have the best young players going around, eventually you must think that it will come good.
What i dont like is those young players having to play key positions before they are ready, for EX had Darling gone to the GC, he would have been the number one forward, at WCE he is forward number 3.
This may have a detrimental effect on their development, because their bodies are not ready yet, i don’t know how much thought was given to this, but in all honesty i would expect the GC to come good, and competetive sooner rather than later, although i would have thought earlier than at present.
July 6th 2012 @ 2:16pm
Macca said | July 6th 2012 @ 2:16pm | Report comment
Brewski – “What i dont like is those young players having to play key positions before they are ready” Which is one of the reason I think they may not develop as well as poeple think, young kids getting beaten up every week often don’t reach their potential due to both mental and physical damage.
They of course will come good, the draft and the AFL will ensure it but how long it will take and whether the support rebuilds are another thing.
July 6th 2012 @ 2:17pm
GCS said | July 6th 2012 @ 2:17pm | Report comment
No offense taken Brewski, the ladder doesn’t lie in this instance.
Macca – think you are being harsh on the supporters. I guess a lot of people that had memberships last year would have got them because they had a chance to watch AFL football every second week. Don’t think that anyone thought that all of a sudden there were 13,000 die hard Suns supporters. Dedication to a football club takes time.
As for premierships in 5 years, who knows. All these young kids will be around the 23 year mark with 100 games experience. Might not be premiership material, but they could be a pretty decent side. No one knows which kids are going to develop into champions and which ones will fall by the wayside.
July 6th 2012 @ 2:35pm
Brewski said | July 6th 2012 @ 2:35pm | Report comment
Macca, i would agree, someone like Sheedy would have little problem thowing them in at the deepend, and GWS appears to me to be more aggressive at the ball and man than the GCS, although the players of both clubs are very similar in ages and experience.
Sheedy would probably argue that pressure creates diamonds, although if my son was going to the club, i would have real resevations about useing these young kids up, before they are ready.
GC also have had some key injuries to key position players, that does not help this year.
July 6th 2012 @ 2:45pm
Macca said | July 6th 2012 @ 2:45pm | Report comment
Brewski – A lot of other clubs (Collingwood, Geelong even Carlton) tend to bring their recruits in for a few games to let them have a taste then send them back for a motnh or so to work on their games, then bring them back for a few weeks.
This to me is the ideal way (providing the players confidence is being looked after through communication) let them get a taste and give them areas to work on when the go back.
Forcing them to carrry to great a load will either cause injuries, lack of condience or make them want to go to a club where they get some help.
And don’t get me started on Sheedy.
July 6th 2012 @ 3:04pm
Brewski said | July 6th 2012 @ 3:04pm | Report comment
Macca, agreed, you bring them in via the flanks, interchange, run with etc.
I reckon that Lyons game plan, IE: a rolling rugby maul has caused injuries to really skilled players like Fyfe etc , who are not inside mids, but play according to this game plan, so who knows what happens to younger kids at GCS or GWS.
An open game would have GCS win, but that is not how the game is played now.
July 6th 2012 @ 3:24pm
Brewski said | July 6th 2012 @ 3:24pm | Report comment
How little man Zorko, and QLDer got past them, when he is the exact type of player they need, is a good question IMO.
July 6th 2012 @ 3:26pm
Macca said | July 6th 2012 @ 3:26pm | Report comment
Zorko has been great for my super coah team I know that much!
July 7th 2012 @ 12:55pm
macca said | July 7th 2012 @ 12:55pm | Report comment
geez Ian, what do I know about footy, the blues beat collingwood in every facet, McLean gets 28 touches and 8 tackles and Carrazzo suts down Beams and helps himself to 28 of his own.
July 5th 2012 @ 1:40pm
Redb said | July 5th 2012 @ 1:40pm | Report comment
I think you might just have gone a touch early. But go right ahead