Sonny Bill Williams is on a magical journey to sports immortality
By Spiro Zavos, 9 Jul 2012 Spiro Zavos is a Roar Expert
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New Zealand's Sonny Bill Williams celebrates after scoring a try against Ireland(AP Photo/SNPA, John Cowpland)
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One of the wonderful things about sport is that every so often we get an athlete who is so good at what he does that he re-writes the book on what it means to be a champion. Sonny Bill Williams is one of those athletes.
He is on a magical journey to sports immortality. Let’s put away the mundane rows about the merits of one rugby code over another.
Let’s also look beyond the affronts that he and his manager have inflicted on the notion of the sanctity of binding contracts with employees and lock ourselves into the thrills and spills of this journey.
From the point of view of an athlete who believes in his own special capacities what Sonny Bill is doing makes a lot of sense. It also makes financial sense, too. And let’s remember, athletes have a short career in terms of the normal working life of mere mortals. Sonny Bill is already 26.
At the most he has about 10 more years in which to convert his special athletic qualities and abilities into money and triumphs on the rugby fields of the field and, possibly, the boxing rings of the world.
Going to Japan to play 12 matches for $1.2 million dollars is a win-win for him, for the Panasonic Wild Knights franchise and for rugby generally in Japan. Japan is aiming at becoming an Asian rugby powerhouse. The Rugby World Cup will be played there in 2019.
Having Sonny Bill playing in Japan in 2012/2013 will elevate the image of the game, especially to young people there, to a sort of celebrity cult status. Like Jonah Lomu, the first modern world-wide rugby superstar, Williams has that special charisma that attracts young people and with this celebrity, the attraction of the media.
And like Jonah, too, on his best days Williams delivers. Before his break with the rugby league code, The Daily Telegraph was given to describing him as the best league player in the world and one of the best to ever have graced the field playing the code. There was a justifiable reaction against the way he covertly broke his contract with the Bulldogs.
But it needs to be realised and accepted that in his dealings with the organisation the NZRU has said repeatedly that he and his manager have been models of probity and reliability. They have bargained hard and fair. And, as with rugby league where he won a Premiership, Sonny Bill has delivered.
But I have no doubt that when he comes back to Sydney and plays for the Roosters, it will be a case of ‘all is forgiven’ from the journalists who formerly (and correctly, I suppose) were bitter in their criticism of his contract-breaking behaviour.
This has already started, in fact. Chris Rattue, the rugby league tragic and columnist on the New Zealand Herald (who also writes absolute nonsense about rugby in New Zealand), wrote a piece today in which he describes Williams as a free spirit who is out to squeeze every ounce of the juice of life experiences from his sporting career.
This analysis of Sonny Bill makes sense to me. The life of the athlete reflects in its way the myth of Achilles.
Achilles was given the choice by the gods of a long, boring life or a short but brilliant existence. He chose the short but brilliant life. Athletes don’t really have a choice.
In the grand scheme of things their careers are short. And if they are touched by the gods, as Williams is, it can be brilliant, exciting and always challenging as well.
My guess is that after his year with the Roosters, Sonny Bill will come back to rugby in New Zealand to win back a place in the All Blacks for the 2015 RWC tournament in England.
The marketing possibilities for Sonny Bill in the iconic All Blacks colours in Europe before and after the tournament are mind-boggling.
Then presumably he will mix and match a rugby career in Europe (or Japan for 12 weeks in the year for a pay out of well over $1 million) with a renewed emphasis on a boxing career.
I have only seen clips of him as a boxer. He certainly has the physique and fitness and fast feet. At this stage he doesn’t appear to have the punch to match his build but this could come. He certainly seems to have more ring craft and technique than someone like Joe Bugner, for instance, who went the distance with Mohammed Ali.
Williams does all the right things in the ring. And what he needs, for someone who never boxed as a amateur even, is time in the ring to get the feel of ‘the sweet science’ that it becomes a natural instinct to him.
Knowing what he has achieved so far in his rugby (both codes) career and with his occasional fights in the ring, I would say that a world title is a long shot proposition for Sonny Bill. But this is only speculation on my part.
What we do know is that this season, particularly, Sonny Bill has progressed to the stage where he is one of the best rugby union players in the world. He has picked up the nuances of a difficult and intricate game brilliantly.
He is one of the few players in the history of rugby (Jonah Lomu is another) with his combination of bulk, power and pace as a winger rather than a loose forward, who has changed the perceptions of the game.
The Sonny Bill unloading of passes of tackles has added a new and exciting dimension to rugby attacking play.
Youngsters around the rugby union world are imitating it and the back-hand flick, the round-the-corner pass as the player falls to ground and the basket-ball overhead pass will become standard features of the rugby union game, thanks to Sonny Bill.
He would have been a long term All Black if he had stayed in the code. His progress from the talented player of last season who could only be trusted for a few seconds on the field in the final of RWC 2011 to the master blaster of this season for the Chiefs and the All Blacks has been phenomenal.
This could still happen. But for now it’s Sonny Bill the Rooster and heavyweight boxing contender. Bon voyage, Sonny Bill …
Spiro Zavos, a founding writer on The Roar, was long time editorial writer on the Sydney Morning Herald, where he started a rugby column that has run for nearly 30 years. Spiro has written 12 books: fiction, biography, politics and histories of Australian, New Zealand, British and South African rugby. He is regarded as one of the foremost writers on rugby throughout the world.
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July 9th 2012 @ 11:39am
Ryan O'Connell said | July 9th 2012 @ 11:39am | Report comment
I think the major issue with Sonny Bill is that a big part of being considered a great in your chosen sport is sustained high level performance over a long period of time. Athletes that were flash-in-the-pans, one season wonders, or displayed short term brilliance will always remembered, but rarely will said individuals be considered an all-time great (fairly or unfairly).
Sonny Bill’s problem is that he doesn’t stay in one place long enough to earn the kudos that go with longevity.
In some ways, he is redefining what greatness is. But sadly, I don’t think he’ll ever be held in the utmost highest regard in one sport, for the simple reason that he doesn’t commit to any for long enough.
July 9th 2012 @ 11:53am
tonysalerno said | July 9th 2012 @ 11:53am | Report comment
I agree with you Ryan, part of being a great in your own sport is being recognised in that sport at the expense of others.
“I don’t think he’ll ever be held in the utmost highest regard in one sport, for the simple reason that he doesn’t commit to any for long enough.” Well said Ryan O’Connell.
July 9th 2012 @ 12:01pm
Brett McKay said | July 9th 2012 @ 12:01pm | Report comment
Spot on Ryano, you’ve saved me a lot of typing here…
July 9th 2012 @ 12:47pm
Jutsie said | July 9th 2012 @ 12:47pm | Report comment
Spot on, he is getting really bad advice from his management. They are more interested in promoting him and pumping up his market value than actually encouraging him to achieve his full potential. In the end he really hasn’t proved anything in union, there have been flashes of brilliance but the consistency has not been there. It looked like he was about to hit some rare form and compete for the mantle of best 12 in the world but now he is leaving the game with alot of unanswered questions.
July 9th 2012 @ 1:19pm
Who Needs Melon said | July 9th 2012 @ 1:19pm | Report comment
I’m certain SBW doesn’t see any “major issues”. He doesn’t seem interested in treading the same paths as others. On the one hand you can respect that and respect his incredible ability.
But it’s difficult not to compare him to Jonah Lomu, Tana Umaga, Mortlock, etc. and I’m sure I know the answer most of us would give when asked who we respect more. Are they unfair comparisons? Probably. But then who SHOULD we be comparing SBW to?
July 9th 2012 @ 1:25pm
Ryan O'Connell said | July 9th 2012 @ 1:25pm | Report comment
Dion Sanders? Bo Jackson? Brad Thorn? Anthony Mundine?
July 9th 2012 @ 3:08pm
RebelRanger said | July 9th 2012 @ 3:08pm | Report comment
Prime Time? Woah there. Lets not over hype SBW hahaha
July 9th 2012 @ 4:00pm
Toa said | July 9th 2012 @ 4:00pm | Report comment
Ryan…..Danny Ainge….Hoops man like yourself shouldn’t leave out old danny boy!!!!!
July 9th 2012 @ 4:21pm
Ryan O'Connell said | July 9th 2012 @ 4:21pm | Report comment
True, Ainge did play baseball for Toronto – but as a Lakers fan, I refuse to give credit to any scummy Celtics people.
July 9th 2012 @ 1:59pm
The Barry said | July 9th 2012 @ 1:59pm | Report comment
Well said Ryan.
He was well on his way in league before he left the Bulldogs – he won’t become an all-time great based on one additional season with the Roosters.
He’s far from the best rugby player in the world let alone of all time.
By the time he commits to boxing it may be too late to reach the absolute pinnacle in that sport.
I get the feeling though that SBW isn’t as interested in his legacy as players before him have necessarily been. I’ve never heard him speak in terms of being remembered as a great.
July 9th 2012 @ 2:40pm
soapit said | July 9th 2012 @ 2:40pm | Report comment
ryan i wrote pretty much this exact same thing on another SBW article earlier today (i’m claiming dibs on this idea by the way) but he’s really gonna miss his chance to be remembered as a great after he’s retired. with all this moving around (not just between sports but between countries) he just isnt on peoples radar for long enough.
July 9th 2012 @ 5:41pm
WQ said | July 9th 2012 @ 5:41pm | Report comment
I for one don’t agree, SBW will be remembered as one of the Greatest New Zealand sports persons ever when he finally finishes his career. Who knows where he will finish up and what he will ultimately achieve, but his resume already looks more impressive than most and as Spiro rightfully points out he has at least 10 years to go.
It seems to me there are plenty that still can’t let go of his exit from the Bulldogs and this clouds their opinion of him significantly!
July 9th 2012 @ 5:48pm
soapit said | July 9th 2012 @ 5:48pm | Report comment
at least 10 years is expecting a bit much. perhaps 10 years might be a better estimate. those performing at the top level at 36 are the exception not the rule.
July 9th 2012 @ 6:48pm
WQ said | July 9th 2012 @ 6:48pm | Report comment
He is exceptional though soapit!
July 10th 2012 @ 10:01am
soapit said | July 10th 2012 @ 10:01am | Report comment
not saying he wont but a lot can happen between then. at most i would only go as far as to say “likely 10 years left” as “at least 10 years left”
July 9th 2012 @ 5:51pm
Ryan O'Connell said | July 9th 2012 @ 5:51pm | Report comment
Oh hogwash!! Absolute rubbish, WQ! By all means disagree with me, but don’t put words in my mouth. My view of Williams has nothing to do with his departure from the Bulldogs. I actually respect and like SBW immensely, so there is no clouding of my judgement of him.
And he very well may go down as one of New Zealand’s greatest sports people.
But on current form and trends, there is no way he’ll be remembered as an all-time great in rugby union, rugby league or boxing. That’s the only point I was trying to make.
Maybe he doesn’t care, and that’s fine – why would he care what I think! But the fact remains that sustained brilliance in one sport is what makes individuals all-time greats in those particular sports. And he doesn’t seem to play long enough in one to earn that status.
July 9th 2012 @ 6:54pm
Dan said | July 9th 2012 @ 6:54pm | Report comment
That’s one definition of greatness, but as you rightly point out, SBW may actually be in the process of redefining what sporting Greatness is. Indeed, on current trends it’s impossible to rule out anything for him. At this stage I wouldn’t be overly surprised to see the guy end up in the NFL or possibly AFL too. If Sonny Bill jumps to yet another oval football code, he will be truly redefining versatility – particularly if he reaches another championship in the sport.
Can you think of any other professional footballer to have succeeded in 3 different football codes and won championships in all 3? I can’t… in 10 years he may well achieve it and if he does it would put him in a different category altogether than a “great” of Rugby League, Union etc; he’d have traversed into “sporting genius” territory.
July 9th 2012 @ 6:57pm
WQ said | July 9th 2012 @ 6:57pm | Report comment
Good evening Ryan, please accept my apology as I was attempting to generalise with my statement, it was not necessarily aimed at you.
Whilst I agree he may never be remembered as a Rugby great, a League great or in fact a boxing great, he will be remembered as a great athlete that changed the way professional sports people here and in New Zealand, in both codes, are treated and negotiated with.
I am also not that sure that as sports fans we are not so fickle that he may just become a great in any one of the 3 sports that he has turned his hand to so far!
July 9th 2012 @ 7:04pm
Ryan O'Connell said | July 9th 2012 @ 7:04pm | Report comment
And I apologise back! Sorry mate.
As I mentioned early, he may be redefining what greatness is, so I’ll humbly back down too.
July 9th 2012 @ 7:25pm
WQ said | July 9th 2012 @ 7:25pm | Report comment
All good Ryan, as I have mentioned before, if nothing else he stirs people’s emotions!
July 9th 2012 @ 8:56pm
Damien said | July 9th 2012 @ 8:56pm | Report comment
Very true Ryan and I’m sure most sports fans will agree with you there.
However why do people keep insisting that SBW stay with one sport and reach his full potential in league, union, or boxing ? Is this for their benefit or SBW’s.
As Melon said, SBW doesn’t seem interested in treading the same path as others.
The comparisons or comments about his legacy (or lack of) would be alot more accurate when he retires from footy..
July 10th 2012 @ 7:55pm
Ra said | July 10th 2012 @ 7:55pm | Report comment
one of my uncles once said: if people are talking about you – you must be important – it’s when they stop talking about you, that’s when you’ve got a problem. SBW is the most important man in Ozi and Kiwi sport at the moment judging by this blog – good on him – we haven’t begun yet, to see the greatness that IS Sonny boy Williams – I always enjoy watching him play, and so do millions of other – so good on him. I’m sure uncle would think he’s important !!!!!!!
July 22nd 2012 @ 10:47am
guinness14 said | July 22nd 2012 @ 10:47am | Report comment
Well said. In my book I do not see him being great at any thing for he does not stay long enough to earn it. A flash in the pan, on night wonder. Brad Thorn, Colin Meades, David Campeeze to name a few, have earned their greatness over many years.
July 9th 2012 @ 11:44am
Riccardo said | July 9th 2012 @ 11:44am | Report comment
This is a shame for SBW and one hopes this decision is his and is the right one for him.
He could have had a long term contract as one of the finest footballers on the planet as well as being an All Black legend. While this would hamper the immediate paydays the long term benefits could well be as lucrative. The All Blacks have already given him dispensation to pursue boxing and maintain his personal advertising brand so I can’t imagine petty cash is an issue.
I started out as a critic but his rugby has won me over. Can’t stand the circus, his management and mates but his determination to be a better rugby player and the obvious strides in improvement are there for all to see and he should be applauded. It’s a shame that we may never know how good he could have been with another season or 2 with the All Blacks.
His personal donation to stricken Christchurch was a highlight for me too and perhaps speaks more to the man himself than anything we glean from the media marketplace.
I think your guess that Sonny Bill will come back to rugby in New Zealand to try to win back a place in the All Blacks for the 2015 RWC tournament in England is a little fanciful though Spiro but given the man’s talent you wouldn’t completely discount it would you.
Good luck and all the best Sonny Bill.
July 9th 2012 @ 11:50am
moaman said | July 9th 2012 @ 11:50am | Report comment
Riccardo-Well said mate-you pretty much summed it up for me.I am glad it’s finally out in the open and that he won’t be playing the 1st 2 Rc games.” Good luck and all the best”..and goodbye.
July 9th 2012 @ 11:53am
Riccardo said | July 9th 2012 @ 11:53am | Report comment
Moa,
How are you mate?
See the Blues had a 13+ win? AND I picked it!
Go figure…
July 9th 2012 @ 12:30pm
moaman said | July 9th 2012 @ 12:30pm | Report comment
July 9th 2012 @ 11:47am
katzilla said | July 9th 2012 @ 11:47am | Report comment
Don’t you mean rewrites the Cheque book?
I’m sure he’s got better footwork and faster hands then Joe Bugner, but the real test of a heavyweight is whether he can take a hit.
We haven’t seen that yet because he’s avoided the big punchers like the plague.
He doesn’t hit overly hard for a heavyweight and we dont know if he can take a hit either.
As an Athlete he is certainly top shelf. No one can deny his talent, and maybe if he had a different manager he might have gotten stuck in the NRL rut. He’s obviously got grander designs for his life and fair enough.
His major issue is transparency, although in the last year or so he’s been pretty open about his intentions (that or people just know what’s coming now)
As an All Black fan I’d like to see him go on to other things and never return.
No one can be bigger then the Black jersey and should he return in 2 years Hansen should not have him back.
Nothing bitter about it but no one should be able to map out their All Black career in advance, not even Sir Richie.
Good luck to him.
July 9th 2012 @ 11:53am
KiwiDave said | July 9th 2012 @ 11:53am | Report comment
“but the real test of a heavyweight is whether he can take a hit.”
I think his time at the NRL showed he can’t LOL
July 9th 2012 @ 2:53pm
Lats said | July 9th 2012 @ 2:53pm | Report comment
“.. avoided big punchers like the plague”
I nearly choked on my cornflakes from laughing when I read that… , nice work
Having said that, didn’t he win the NZ heavyweight title? He’s only had a couple of pro fights I believe… so the guy has actually done amazingly well in boxing as well as rugby given his limited time in both sports.
July 9th 2012 @ 3:25pm
Pogo said | July 9th 2012 @ 3:25pm | Report comment
He won the NZPBA title. Which is a pretty minor one. Shane Cameron is the highest ranked NZ fighter on most lists (poss top 10 with WBO now) even though he doesn’t have a NZ title. I don’t think Tua ever bothered fighting for NZ titles.
July 9th 2012 @ 4:37pm
KiwiDave said | July 9th 2012 @ 4:37pm | Report comment
Did you see what he beat to win that title? Its a joke of a sport in New Zealand, pretty much like the rest of the world. If he walked down any South Auckland pub and took on the biggest bloke in any bar, he would get the snot kicked out of him. Boxing would have to be the least credible sport in the world.
July 9th 2012 @ 6:30pm
Ben S said | July 9th 2012 @ 6:30pm | Report comment
Boxing would have to be the least credible sport in the world? What this time?
July 9th 2012 @ 7:23pm
WQ said | July 9th 2012 @ 7:23pm | Report comment
But he didn’t walk into a pub in South Auckland did he KiwiDave, any two bit punk can do that.
No he backed himself in front of a massive audience and had a go. He had every thing to lose and very little to gain other than experience, but he still did it.
It is a daunting task hopping into a boxing ring with nowhere to hide KiwiDave, very few have the guts to even try!
July 9th 2012 @ 7:13pm
bennalong said | July 9th 2012 @ 7:13pm | Report comment
“No-one can be bigger than the black jersey’!
Right on Katzilla! Playing for your country is an honour, not to be picked up and discarded as suits.
He should have played his last game as an All Black…………….nothing bitter about it!
July 10th 2012 @ 12:25pm
Pano777 said | July 10th 2012 @ 12:25pm | Report comment
yeah must agree and ask the question “has he fought anyone of any note yet?”…..not that i’m following his boxing career that closely….but it appears he’s getting matched against nuffies and floating through…..happy to be corrected…but that’s how it appears to the casual observer….
July 9th 2012 @ 11:50am
Team Taniwha said | July 9th 2012 @ 11:50am | Report comment
No real suprises with what he decided, but does suprise that is all based on hand shake agreement from a couple of years ago and not something he would prefer to do now. Nick Politis must have a very strong hand shake for it over ride ones own desires.
July 9th 2012 @ 11:51am
KiwiDave said | July 9th 2012 @ 11:51am | Report comment
As both a Chiefs and All Black supporter I am very disappointed he is going back to the NRL. The Japanese Rugby gig I am all for it but going back to NRL then expecting just to walk back into the All Blacks in time for 2015, I say no to him.
His Japanese gig will make him a star to an adoring Japanese public and boost his brand considerably. Financially and career wise a very smart move doing a one or two season gig in Japan. The exposure he will get will be immense.
But going back to the NRL for a season. Please….The guy is as dumb as a doorknob for doing this. Why be a big fish in a small pond when you are already one in a big pond. Most NRL supporters cant stand him after the way he dishonored his contract with the Bulldogs. If he thinks NRL supporters will welcome him back with open arms, think again. Most of them think he is a mongrel. And now turning his back on the NZRFU for the NRL, a lot of All Blacks supporters will think the same of him.
The guy may be one hell of a talented athlete but his ego needs to be put in check. He thinks he is bigger than the sports he plays.
I for one do not want to see him in an All Black jersey in 2015. I would rather someone with pride and commitment to the jersey wear it. We dont need SBW to win the Rugby World Cup in 2015. Tew should tell him he can come back to the All Blacks but not until 2016.
July 9th 2012 @ 12:40pm
Acorn said | July 9th 2012 @ 12:40pm | Report comment
yeah I’m with you KD, if he bails on the All Blacks, c u later. I found it curious that Steve Hansen and Steve Tew all had plenty to say on his departure, as well as the Chiefs coaches turning up to his press conference- they all seem pretty desperate for him to come back to rugby in a year or so.
What kind of message is this sending to players like Hosea Gear who has been loyal his whole career?
This stinks of commercial desperation, not unlike selling the ad space on the front of the All Blacks jersey. He can’t have it both ways, and the NZRFU need to harden up on him, it’s cheapening the AB’s jersey.
July 9th 2012 @ 1:55pm
B-Rock said | July 9th 2012 @ 1:55pm | Report comment
Well said KiwiDave
As a Tahs/Wallabies supporter I am relieved he will be MIA at least for the next few yrs.
SBW is an amazing athlete. The poblem is he does not invest the time to learn the intracacies of a sport which all great players need to do in order to sustain thier careers as they lose a step or two. This is built from 10+yrs in a sport – not one or two, while always looking for the next payday.
He will be in for a rude shock if he sustains a major injury which limits his athletic ability or tries to continue playing past 30. My bold prediction is he has 5yrs left in his career as his value will plummett once he is no longer the most athletic on the field.
Also – Im shocked that Hansen would say: “hopefully this is not the last time we see him in New Zealand Rugby” – I always thought the ABs were too proud to take a stance like this. I would have thought his AB career would be over after this announcement, not that SBW would mind… how much do the ABs pay per test? a lot less than the Japanese Im sure.
July 9th 2012 @ 2:15pm
Jutsie said | July 9th 2012 @ 2:15pm | Report comment
It seems a common theme that leagueies use union as a bargaining chip or get rich quick scheme. The only 2 big name league cross overs who have really put the effort to learn the intricacies of union and have embraced the game are robinson and thorn.
July 10th 2012 @ 12:10pm
The High Shot said | July 10th 2012 @ 12:10pm | Report comment
Another common theme is union poaching league players to try and boost its low profile in Australia.
July 9th 2012 @ 5:46pm
WQ said | July 9th 2012 @ 5:46pm | Report comment
Thankfully KiwiDave you will have nothing to do with it!
July 9th 2012 @ 7:03pm
Dan said | July 9th 2012 @ 7:03pm | Report comment
“The guy may be one hell of a talented athlete but his ego needs to be put in check. He thinks he is bigger than the sports he plays.”
I think that’s a tad precious…
People have this strange reaction to sports people in which they think that players owe their paymasters something for recognising and exploiting their talents. Put it this way – if I’m a world class barrister for a major firm and I get an offer from a rival corporation who will pay me more, I’ll jump ship immediately. I don’t give a toss if people resent me for leaving and showing little loyalty, because I’ve witnessed plenty of lesser barristers let go during restructures and credit crunches. They didn’t care about those people, so why do I care about the corporation? Their “loyalty” is no less mercenary than mine and this is no different for sporting organisations; the game here is to win – and that includes the contracts.
July 9th 2012 @ 8:30pm
WQ said | July 9th 2012 @ 8:30pm | Report comment
Here Here Dan, very well said!
July 9th 2012 @ 9:55pm
Nick said | July 9th 2012 @ 9:55pm | Report comment
You don’t have a clue about what kind if man sbw is. Comments from afar about his ego are, at best, ignorant whinings. The players and coaches who have worked with him in NZ and France since his turn to rugby have said the EXACT opposite including Wayne smith, Henry, Hansen, jonny wilkinson and dan Carter. He’s thought of as the ultimate professional and an immense asset to rugby by those guys and that’s a far better place to start when judging him than some fans nebulous witterings concerning “loyalty” and the “black jersey”.
The guy is a very good footballer and if he comes back and is better than the guy in the 12 jersey he’ll get the gig.
As it has always been and will always be.
July 9th 2012 @ 11:59am
Acorn said | July 9th 2012 @ 11:59am | Report comment
i can’t help but be disappointed he’s leaving the All Blacks. Is it all about the money, you’d think he has enough! and if he stuck around with the All Blacks (one of the biggest sporting brands in the world) you’d think he’d do ok fiscally. or is it the challenge of different sports? Why not a sabbatical a la Richie McCaw & Dan Carter?
If it’s the challenge, what else has he got to prove in League? Boxing? c’mon Sonny can you be serious about this?
If he comes back to rugby in two years, invariably someone will have taken his spot and be the main man, such is the conveyor belt of rugby talent in NZ.
July 9th 2012 @ 12:00pm
Royce Strauss said | July 9th 2012 @ 12:00pm | Report comment
Going to have to disagree while laughing. He looks totally out of his league at international level against competent opposition.
July 9th 2012 @ 1:10pm
Markus said | July 9th 2012 @ 1:10pm | Report comment
I’m thinking the same thing. The All Blacks won the World Cup in spite of him, not because of him. His biggest contribution was being yellow carded in the semi-final in his first 60 seconds on the field.
Sure Sonny Bill has a World Cup winners medal, but so does Wynand Olivier.
July 9th 2012 @ 5:03pm
biltongbek said | July 9th 2012 @ 5:03pm | Report comment
haha, well said Markus, Do you think we can strike Wynand’s off the record?
Not something I want to remember with any fondness.
July 9th 2012 @ 9:59pm
Nick said | July 9th 2012 @ 9:59pm | Report comment
Really? Funny how all black coaches and some of the finest players in the world disagree with you there.
Honestly, the guy couldn’t win people like you over unless he scored all the points himself and made the tea at the aftermatch.
July 10th 2012 @ 7:57am
rae1 said | July 10th 2012 @ 7:57am | Report comment
Agree Nick. Even then the haters will still find fault.
July 9th 2012 @ 12:00pm
The Fanthomb said | July 9th 2012 @ 12:00pm | Report comment
A piece of advice someone once shared with me was that to be successful in life you need to either be the greatest in the world at one thing (i.e. Tiger Woods, Lance Armstrong, Ian Thorpe, etc) or be really good at three things simultaneously. It can be any three things, but I suggest one of the three things should be public speaking.
SBW has the potential to be the greatest in the world at a sport. But he can not be the greatest at three sports simulatenously.
Without getting into a discussion on success and greatness, and I dont seek to down play his success in every sport he has touched however, I can not foresee that any of his three choosen sports would name a stadium or trophy after him, or cast him in bronze.
Perhaps his motivations are more Rhodes-esque and he is seeking to establish a legacy that is not yet apparent.
His departure will be a loss to rugby.
July 9th 2012 @ 12:00pm
jdubya said | July 9th 2012 @ 12:00pm | Report comment
Has anybody thought that he is only signing a year deal with the NRL because he wants to play Japanese Rugby in the offseason and a long term NRL contract would prevent him from doing that – see Benji Marshall a couple of years back. SBW signing a year contract allows him to play Japanese Rugby and box in the off season before possibly resigning with the Roosters or going back to Rugby. Oh and you have to factor in the fact that next year the cap will be increasingly significantly, would be stupid for him to sign a long term contract at this point.
July 9th 2012 @ 12:26pm
KiwiDave said | July 9th 2012 @ 12:26pm | Report comment
He could come back and play Super XV rugby instead of NRL. No need to switch codes. His season at the Roosters could easily have been another at the Chiefs which would have left the door open for All Black selection
July 9th 2012 @ 12:02pm
allblackfan said | July 9th 2012 @ 12:02pm | Report comment
KD, remember that Brad Thorn set the precedent.
Like many others, I’m also disappointed with his decision to go but already I’m reading about his plans to play sevens in SA next Dec and how he’s eyeing up the Rio Olympics!! Probably as a forward!
As for his return to the NRL, maybe he feels there is unfinished business. If he cops half as hostile a reception as some are promising then 2013 could very well be his last season in league. Ever!
July 9th 2012 @ 1:29pm
cos789 said | July 9th 2012 @ 1:29pm | Report comment
I wonder if he will hang around for the RLWC at the end of 2013.
The bloke could win 3 world cups in 2 sports in a period of 5 years with the Kiwis and All Blacks!
That would have to be some kind of record.
July 9th 2012 @ 2:08pm
Vincent said | July 9th 2012 @ 2:08pm | Report comment
That’s a big if though, I don’t think the Kiwis will make the final next year let alone fluke another RLWC.
July 9th 2012 @ 10:01pm
Nick said | July 9th 2012 @ 10:01pm | Report comment
Did they fluke that four nations title they held at the same time?
July 10th 2012 @ 12:18am
D Maaga said | July 10th 2012 @ 12:18am | Report comment
after watching england play against the exiles its only going to be australia and the kiwis again for the league world cup.
July 9th 2012 @ 2:23pm
tommy said | July 9th 2012 @ 2:23pm | Report comment
It sounds good Cos but when you drilll into it, the Rugby League World Cup holds no value & he played a tiny role in the Rugby World Cup.
July 9th 2012 @ 2:42pm
soapit said | July 9th 2012 @ 2:42pm | Report comment
big enough role to get a medal at the end of it. no mean feat.
July 10th 2012 @ 11:01am
Rough Conduct said | July 10th 2012 @ 11:01am | Report comment
Not big enough to actually turn up to the post WC celebrations / parades. He knew he had little to do with the WC victory, to the point he was embarassed to even join in the celebration.