Sonny Bill Williams is on a magical journey to sports immortality
By Spiro Zavos, 9 Jul 2012 Spiro Zavos is a Roar Expert
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New Zealand's Sonny Bill Williams celebrates after scoring a try against Ireland(AP Photo/SNPA, John Cowpland)
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One of the wonderful things about sport is that every so often we get an athlete who is so good at what he does that he re-writes the book on what it means to be a champion. Sonny Bill Williams is one of those athletes.
He is on a magical journey to sports immortality. Let’s put away the mundane rows about the merits of one rugby code over another.
Let’s also look beyond the affronts that he and his manager have inflicted on the notion of the sanctity of binding contracts with employees and lock ourselves into the thrills and spills of this journey.
From the point of view of an athlete who believes in his own special capacities what Sonny Bill is doing makes a lot of sense. It also makes financial sense, too. And let’s remember, athletes have a short career in terms of the normal working life of mere mortals. Sonny Bill is already 26.
At the most he has about 10 more years in which to convert his special athletic qualities and abilities into money and triumphs on the rugby fields of the field and, possibly, the boxing rings of the world.
Going to Japan to play 12 matches for $1.2 million dollars is a win-win for him, for the Panasonic Wild Knights franchise and for rugby generally in Japan. Japan is aiming at becoming an Asian rugby powerhouse. The Rugby World Cup will be played there in 2019.
Having Sonny Bill playing in Japan in 2012/2013 will elevate the image of the game, especially to young people there, to a sort of celebrity cult status. Like Jonah Lomu, the first modern world-wide rugby superstar, Williams has that special charisma that attracts young people and with this celebrity, the attraction of the media.
And like Jonah, too, on his best days Williams delivers. Before his break with the rugby league code, The Daily Telegraph was given to describing him as the best league player in the world and one of the best to ever have graced the field playing the code. There was a justifiable reaction against the way he covertly broke his contract with the Bulldogs.
But it needs to be realised and accepted that in his dealings with the organisation the NZRU has said repeatedly that he and his manager have been models of probity and reliability. They have bargained hard and fair. And, as with rugby league where he won a Premiership, Sonny Bill has delivered.
But I have no doubt that when he comes back to Sydney and plays for the Roosters, it will be a case of ‘all is forgiven’ from the journalists who formerly (and correctly, I suppose) were bitter in their criticism of his contract-breaking behaviour.
This has already started, in fact. Chris Rattue, the rugby league tragic and columnist on the New Zealand Herald (who also writes absolute nonsense about rugby in New Zealand), wrote a piece today in which he describes Williams as a free spirit who is out to squeeze every ounce of the juice of life experiences from his sporting career.
This analysis of Sonny Bill makes sense to me. The life of the athlete reflects in its way the myth of Achilles.
Achilles was given the choice by the gods of a long, boring life or a short but brilliant existence. He chose the short but brilliant life. Athletes don’t really have a choice.
In the grand scheme of things their careers are short. And if they are touched by the gods, as Williams is, it can be brilliant, exciting and always challenging as well.
My guess is that after his year with the Roosters, Sonny Bill will come back to rugby in New Zealand to win back a place in the All Blacks for the 2015 RWC tournament in England.
The marketing possibilities for Sonny Bill in the iconic All Blacks colours in Europe before and after the tournament are mind-boggling.
Then presumably he will mix and match a rugby career in Europe (or Japan for 12 weeks in the year for a pay out of well over $1 million) with a renewed emphasis on a boxing career.
I have only seen clips of him as a boxer. He certainly has the physique and fitness and fast feet. At this stage he doesn’t appear to have the punch to match his build but this could come. He certainly seems to have more ring craft and technique than someone like Joe Bugner, for instance, who went the distance with Mohammed Ali.
Williams does all the right things in the ring. And what he needs, for someone who never boxed as a amateur even, is time in the ring to get the feel of ‘the sweet science’ that it becomes a natural instinct to him.
Knowing what he has achieved so far in his rugby (both codes) career and with his occasional fights in the ring, I would say that a world title is a long shot proposition for Sonny Bill. But this is only speculation on my part.
What we do know is that this season, particularly, Sonny Bill has progressed to the stage where he is one of the best rugby union players in the world. He has picked up the nuances of a difficult and intricate game brilliantly.
He is one of the few players in the history of rugby (Jonah Lomu is another) with his combination of bulk, power and pace as a winger rather than a loose forward, who has changed the perceptions of the game.
The Sonny Bill unloading of passes of tackles has added a new and exciting dimension to rugby attacking play.
Youngsters around the rugby union world are imitating it and the back-hand flick, the round-the-corner pass as the player falls to ground and the basket-ball overhead pass will become standard features of the rugby union game, thanks to Sonny Bill.
He would have been a long term All Black if he had stayed in the code. His progress from the talented player of last season who could only be trusted for a few seconds on the field in the final of RWC 2011 to the master blaster of this season for the Chiefs and the All Blacks has been phenomenal.
This could still happen. But for now it’s Sonny Bill the Rooster and heavyweight boxing contender. Bon voyage, Sonny Bill …
Spiro Zavos, a founding writer on The Roar, was long time editorial writer on the Sydney Morning Herald, where he started a rugby column that has run for nearly 30 years. Spiro has written 12 books: fiction, biography, politics and histories of Australian, New Zealand, British and South African rugby. He is regarded as one of the foremost writers on rugby throughout the world.
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July 9th 2012 @ 12:04pm
Sailosi said | July 9th 2012 @ 12:04pm | Report comment
This whole situation gets stranger by the day. It’s now being reported that the only reason he is leaving is because he had a handshake deal 4 years ago saying he would come back and play for a certain NRL club.
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July 9th 2012 @ 12:07pm
Red Kev said | July 9th 2012 @ 12:07pm | Report comment
What surprised me the most about the whole affair was that Cooper resigned with the ARU for 3 years (which I assume takes him through to the end of the 2015 RWC) and that SBW went for a 1 year deal with an NRL club. I thought for sure it would be the other way around.
Cooper since his return from injury has improved considerably, and I harbour the hope that his dismal 2011 RWC followed by injury layoff has made him a tougher competitor – determined to play smart rugby on the field and actually defend his channel – the initial signs are good that Cooper might be the man Australian Rugby so desperately needs him to be.
SBW has come on in leaps and bounds in the last 12 months as a rugby player. For mine he had already shown that he was the best 12 in New Zealand and was on his way to becoming the premier centre of world rugby. Yet he decides not to push his claims and instead leaves the sport with nothing more than a sense of loss at what might have been.
Money over greatness … I wonder how many truly great athletes would look back and think they would give up all the accolades for more money in the bank (and let’s face it at SBW’s level of income it really is a case of simply larger digits on paper, it would make no tangible difference to his standard of living).
July 9th 2012 @ 12:50pm
Jutsie said | July 9th 2012 @ 12:50pm | Report comment
Cooper looks like a bloke that is always looking to improve, he may talk a cocky/arrogant game but IMO opinion he looks like a bloke that takes on criticisms/advice from coaches and peers and attempts to address his shortcomings, he has come along way since he first played for the reds.
SBW on the other hand has been touted by the media as the best without actually proving it and I think he is believing his own press.
July 10th 2012 @ 1:59am
JVGO said | July 10th 2012 @ 1:59am | Report comment
If SBW’s earning more for playing for the Roosters than being the best RU centre in the world and playing for the All Blacks the AB’s really need to be payed better.
July 10th 2012 @ 9:21am
D Maaga said | July 10th 2012 @ 9:21am | Report comment
sbw is on bigger money playing rugby union in nz than that for the roosters in 2013. his adidas deal alone is bigger than his one year deal with the roosters.
July 9th 2012 @ 12:08pm
eagleJack said | July 9th 2012 @ 12:08pm | Report comment
Time heals all wounds. SBW has learnt this. Those who never wanted him back in League are now welcoming him back with open arms. Just like the All Blacks will do in 2014. He is the ultimate professional and would be the first to say to Tew and co that if his form doesn’t warrant it then he shouldn’t be picked. But I imagine 2 full seasons of Super 15 before the RWC in 2015 will have him screaming out for selection. Something even the most ardent of All Blacks fans, who talk about the pride in the jersey, will struggle to ignore.
An incredible talent in both codes of rugby but I think it is his boxing career which has most sports fans intrigued. I look forward to the day he takes this on in a full-time capacity.
July 9th 2012 @ 2:43pm
soapit said | July 9th 2012 @ 2:43pm | Report comment
wait until roosters v bulldogs to see if they’re actually welcoming him back with open arms.
July 9th 2012 @ 12:09pm
drewprint said | July 9th 2012 @ 12:09pm | Report comment
Jack of all trades, master of none.
July 9th 2012 @ 12:10pm
Brian Stoddart said | July 9th 2012 @ 12:10pm | Report comment
The 2015 speculation is interesting, 3 years away. The one thing we know with NZ rugby is the sheer number of talented players vying for positions across the field, including SBW’s.
He is a talented player, certainly, and his advanced league skills have added a dimension. But how many games has he really won for the Chiefs and the ABs? A few, and his defence is good – but proven superstar? Not really there yet in my view and the view of several others, it seems.
Japan has been aiming at being a rugby super power for years and progress is minimal. His impact will be in marketing, not playing or development.
The pace and pressure of international rugby bypasses players very quickly now, and a year or so out in one frippery or another is not going to do SBW a lot of good.
So, may sound silly but the issue come 2015 may well be whether or not he is good enough to turn out for the ABs
July 9th 2012 @ 12:11pm
kingplaymaker said | July 9th 2012 @ 12:11pm | Report comment
Of course one wonders what the real reason for his return is. Perhaps the best one I could think of would be that he didn’t want to remain the most hated man in league forever and thinks that a year back there will if not win everyone over then make things better. The Japan stuff is irrelevant. Maybe he didn’t quite realise the effect that walking out on the bulldogs would have and wants to make some amends. Note that in his press statement he cunningly gives the reason for his leaving New Zealand as an issue with Japan, without the slightest explanation of why that would mean he would go to league afterwards.
Then if he came back to the All Blacks it would in time quell the fans who are doubtless angry he is leaving now. So in the end everyone would be happy. Whether this is fair on the All Blacks or not is another question, or the players like Gear and Messam who hang around all their lives in the hope of a handful of caps. On the other hand, maybe the NZRU should be blamed for allowing players to waltz in and out as Mcalister did, in that way showing complete disdain for the loyal players.
So that’s the most positive explanation.
Another possibility is that he didn’t feel he was given a fair chance at the AB 12 position last year, despite being promised the chance to break up the Nonu/Smith partnership. This is what he was told but nothing of the kind was true: he only started in the chaotic B side against South Africa while Nonu played in the A team and outside Carter and had far more opportunity to show what he could do. Indeed he may only have resigned for a year to avoid being the most hated man in New Zealand (remember all that last year). In fact he was seen talking to Roosters officials around christmas.
In a way this would be justifiable. Henry promised him a fair opportunity to get the 12 jersey but gave him none. Certainly the All Blacks can hardly complain after that outrageous treatment and something of a betrayal.
But who knows what he is thinking now in leaving: certainly he has not given the real reason.
It’s true the NZRU will now welcome him back and in showing the pulling power of the AB jersey it has advantages. But is also makes the All Blacks look like a joke of an institution, operating at the whim of players that are bigger than it. Not only that but players like Rene Ranger and Robbie Fruean who weave away in the dim hope of an All Black cap are ridiculed by this. Probably for the sake of the integrity of the All Blacks they shouldn’t let him back. But nor should they let Kaino back, nor should they have allowed Mcalister back.
Perhaps what the NZRU should really be worried about is that their idiotic decision to field one instead of three teams in Auckland (Counties Manukau, North Harbour, Blues) allows the likes of SBW to go to league instead of rugby. Steve Tew said last week he was determined to win the battle of Auckland. Presumably providing a third of the ideal and possible number of squad places, while not allowing single private owners and their riches as the NRL does, is his way of doing it.
As for SBW, you also wonder whether the advice he receives leads him where he actually wishes: if SBW is an Achilles of sport, then Khoder Nasser could well be his Patroclus.
July 9th 2012 @ 12:29pm
sunshine said | July 9th 2012 @ 12:29pm | Report comment
haha make amends? by walking out on the bulldogs and ultimately joining the roosters who still havent been forgiven for depleting the dogs forward pack years ago. Amends, not likely.
July 9th 2012 @ 12:37pm
Riccardo said | July 9th 2012 @ 12:37pm | Report comment
KPM,
SBW, while undouibtedly a great player in the making, is/was not yet good enough to own the 12 jersey.
Where have you read he was promised this? To allege he was betrayed is emotive and peurile.
July 9th 2012 @ 1:16pm
kingplaymaker said | July 9th 2012 @ 1:16pm | Report comment
‘To allege he was betrayed is emotive and peurile.’ Don’t go jumping on bandwagons and try to give your own thoughts.
In any case I’m not here to cheerlead for the All Blacks coaching staff: you should try to face criticism of what they do with rather more maturity yourself.
July 9th 2012 @ 1:40pm
Riccardo said | July 9th 2012 @ 1:40pm | Report comment
Above you refer to Henry making promises to SBW. Below it’s Nonu; I’m surprised he carries enough weight within the All Blacks camp to make such an offer.
Anyway, which is it? I think it’s fair to assume SBW would have had a clue he was competing for the jersey when he 1st made the squad.
In your diatribe above you assert “Certainly the All Blacks can hardly complain after that outrageous treatment and something of a betrayal”. This is what I was trying to address as not only does it not make sense, it is not true and inflammatory. The truth is that being allowed to box while a contracted All Black may illustrate just how well treated he actually was.
I remain happy to be corrected, just not solely by your opinion. Please feel free to provide facts, quotes or links to support your post.
July 9th 2012 @ 2:06pm
kingplaymaker said | July 9th 2012 @ 2:06pm | Report comment
Sorry Riccardo this is an opinion. I read many times last year that SBW was told he would have the chance to break up the Nonu/Smith partnership. In my opinion he wasn’t given that chance and that was to quote my original words ‘something of a betrayal’. You don’t agree, fine, not everyone can agree on everything.
July 9th 2012 @ 2:13pm
Riccardo said | July 9th 2012 @ 2:13pm | Report comment
Fair enough then mate.
We don’t have to agree all the time. At least we now agree on Conrad
And you are entitled to your opinion just like the rest of us.
July 9th 2012 @ 2:14pm
kingplaymaker said | July 9th 2012 @ 2:14pm | Report comment
Riccardo if you look a little further down you may enjoy at least the beginning of my post to OJ
July 9th 2012 @ 2:14pm
Emric said | July 9th 2012 @ 2:14pm | Report comment
All Blacks are the best of the best in the world. Nonu will go down as one of the “All Black Greats” SBW may or may not have had the tallent to be one as well we will never know because by the time he comes back to Rugby in New Zealand we will have found another better player to take the position.
This is the cycle of All Black Rugby.
July 11th 2012 @ 12:04am
Ra said | July 11th 2012 @ 12:04am | Report comment
SBW is already touted by players all over the world including All Black Greats as one of the Greats of the game. You don’t have to play lots of games to be recognised by your peers – a book of All Blacks rugby greats put out in early 1970s mentioned a few who played only a handful of games for the All Blacks, Stan Meads; Bert Cooke who went on to play league and a Maori guynamed Smith who played for the Kiwis rugby team during WWII(I think) was regarded as the greatest centre in the world till Bruce Robertson came along in 1970. I always thought the Irishman Gibson was way up there too, but what would I know – I like some rugby greats think SBW is way up there
July 11th 2012 @ 10:38am
D Maaga said | July 11th 2012 @ 10:38am | Report comment
sbw is not a rugby great, playing one good game against ireland out of 17 test matches don’t make you a great otherwise scott mcleod, pita alatini, piri weepu, mark booke cowden will be consider greats as well.
July 12th 2012 @ 2:05am
Ra said | July 12th 2012 @ 2:05am | Report comment
No Maagas, they were and are All Blacks in their time, and good on them, but GREATs are talked about for all time – remember Nicky Allen; I thought he was merely gifted, but he was touted recently on tv by an All Black of his era as being a GREAT – the same guys were talking of SBW in the same breath
July 9th 2012 @ 12:44pm
Acorn said | July 9th 2012 @ 12:44pm | Report comment
give it a rest KPMG, Sonny Bill robbed of the AB’s #12? History shows the all blacks won the world cup, with minimal input from SBW.
But I absolutely agree with you on your comments on the NZRU 100%. yeah come back SBW, whenever you want, we’re desperate for you. Meanwhile everyone else who is more loyal gets no such treatment, what hypocrites.
July 9th 2012 @ 1:12pm
kingplaymaker said | July 9th 2012 @ 1:12pm | Report comment
SBW was promised a fair chance to win the 12 jersey from Nonu. He played outside Slade in the disastrous B team against South Africa, a completely new and uncoordinated backline. Nonu luxuriously started in the A team again and again. A fair chance? No. A betrayal? Yes if they promised him a fair chance to win the 12 jersey and didn’t give it to him.
Acorn I suspect allowing the Mcalisters, Kainos and SBWs to jump off for a big payday (not the one year sabbatical Carter took) will come back to haunt them one day. There’s too much veneration in New Zealand for everything authority does, be it the NZRU or the coaches. A more critical approach would help: at least Rattue provides that even if he also is too negative.
As usual the larger point was being missed. The aggession of league scouts in Auckland and the mindless suicide of putting only one team with no private backer there will mean not only the SBWs but all sorts of others will soon be in league.
July 9th 2012 @ 1:23pm
Jutsie said | July 9th 2012 @ 1:23pm | Report comment
Why should a bloke who has minimal experience in the game be guaranteed a “fair chance” in one of the most successful and respected national teams in any sport.
He has done nothing of note to make claims that he is a walk up start for the AB’s jersey. There are loads of blokes in NZ (like you always NZ has loads of depth) who respect the jersey and the history of the AB’s and they deserve selection much more than SBW.
July 9th 2012 @ 1:54pm
Wolfie said | July 9th 2012 @ 1:54pm | Report comment
Justie, I agree with you that he hasn’t done anything to warrant the attention in union but I think what KPM is getting at is that Henry seemed to indicate that the #12 responsibilties pre-WC would be split between SBW and Nonu. This is conjecture on my part
My take on Nasser is that he is fox clever, and it would come as no surprise if he was asking the AB question for SBW when he signed with the Saders. As it was a massive coup for NZ rugby to welcome back such a ‘brand’ and potential talent, is it beyond the realm of conceivable thought that SBW may have been made some promises??
My question may have been asked before. Who is advising Sonny Bill and indicating these are the best moves he should be making, unless the entire thing is for a buck? I think perhaps Nasser is in his ear saying “Mate, you could be the best athlete in the WORLD”. Imagine Rugby World Cup, NRL Premiership, Heavyweight title, Olympic Gold, League World Cup etc etc. All possible realistically (boxing least likely, not even as talented as his mate Mundine, who himself was average)
July 9th 2012 @ 2:02pm
Jutsie said | July 9th 2012 @ 2:02pm | Report comment
Wolfie if this is the case then it is poor form on behalf of the AB management as well as its sets a bad example for other aspiring all blacks. The AB jumper should be worth more than that.
I thought it was also poor form that tew, hansen and rennie were all repeating the same line today that he would be welcomed back with open arms. I guess its ok for rennie to say so as his team coach but it would be better if hansen and tew (especially) said nothing either way.
July 9th 2012 @ 1:02pm
Mikey said | July 9th 2012 @ 1:02pm | Report comment
Or maybe he just wants to return to the code that he prefers and is more passionate about. After all he grew up playing RL so RL is his first choice of sport. Most players that do switch codes will come back to the game they have been bought up on.
Also 2013 is a big year for RL. Not only would he love to win an NRL premiership not that he will able to do that with the Roosters lol but there is the RL world cup at the end of the year. I am sure he would love to add that to his C.V.
July 9th 2012 @ 11:59pm
D Maaga said | July 9th 2012 @ 11:59pm | Report comment
he also grew up playing rugby union in auckland.
July 9th 2012 @ 1:54pm
Brett McKay said | July 9th 2012 @ 1:54pm | Report comment
“..despite being promised the chance to break up the Nonu/Smith partnership”
I think you’re making more out of this than there really was/is, KPM. Realistically, every Super Rugby second-five in New Zealand would be told they ‘have the chance’ to unseat Nonu from the ABs no.12 jersey, but that’s more to do with trying to motivate players on th fringe rather than guaranteeing anything.
Realistically, ‘promising the chance’ isn’t anything more than encouragement to play better!
Either way, Williams was given plenty of chance to earn the no.12 for himself. Can you really say the ABs haven’t delivered, on both the ‘promise’ AND ‘the chance’??
July 9th 2012 @ 2:08pm
ohtani's jacket said | July 9th 2012 @ 2:08pm | Report comment
What’s more, he could have turned down the Japan offer and played the rest of this season as an All Black. Not that it would have made much difference in his decision to return to league. In essence, SBW is giving up the 12 jersey not being robbed of it.
July 9th 2012 @ 2:10pm
kingplaymaker said | July 9th 2012 @ 2:10pm | Report comment
Brett I can only go on what the papers tell me and I remember reading several times that SBW was told he would be given the chance to break up the partnership and unseat Nonu i.e. to claim the starting jersey. In my opinion he wasn’t given that chance. He had no real start in the A team as Nonu did, nor outside Carter. Possibly if he had started a real test in the A team instead of the jumbling B side sent to SA to rest the A one then he could have unseated Nonu, who knows.
It seems to me however that the decision to play Nonu/Smith was taken before the international season began, and so SBW wasn’t given a genuine and fair chance as Nonu was.
July 9th 2012 @ 2:38pm
Brett McKay said | July 9th 2012 @ 2:38pm | Report comment
But surely the within the Irish series he played with all the elements of the 2012 ‘A’ side, as you call it? He can hardly help it if injuries knock different players out at differnent time. What even IS the ABs ‘A’ side now??
I just mean to say that being given the chance to do anything is just that, a chance. I have the chance to be the best damned rugby rugby writer in the world this year, but that’s hardly a guarantee, is it? (Or ‘likely’, for that matter).
He played two seasons of Super Rugby in NZ, and played how many Tests in that time? ‘Fair’ is going to be subjective however you look at it, but surely the 20-odd or however many Tests it is he played represents ‘the chance’ he was ‘promised’, doesn’t it? Short of ignoring their own selection guidelines, what more could the ABs have done?
July 9th 2012 @ 2:49pm
kingplaymaker said | July 9th 2012 @ 2:49pm | Report comment
No I don’t mean this year: I mean solely last year for the RWC. This year he had every chance in the world.
I think if he had been started in any match but the SA reserves outfit last year that would have been a fair chance.
As he gets so much stick the rest of the time (maybe rightly) as this one time it does look like he didn’t get the best end of things I thought it fair to point out. I won’t go quite as far as saying poor chap though.
July 9th 2012 @ 2:50pm
soapit said | July 9th 2012 @ 2:50pm | Report comment
exactly, guaranteed a chance but i’ll bet it was never guaranteed that chance would be as part of the starting 15 for the AB A’s. it was always going to be a small chance in a world cup year. if SBW didnt understand this he should have asked more questions at the time.
and at least part of that chance involves the incumbents dropping form which didnt happen last year.
July 9th 2012 @ 2:59pm
kingplaymaker said | July 9th 2012 @ 2:59pm | Report comment
Playing in the first XV is the only way to claim the 12 place.
July 9th 2012 @ 3:14pm
soapit said | July 9th 2012 @ 3:14pm | Report comment
plainly incorrect. most claim it through outstanding super rugby form and/or the incumbent losing form being injured. much like sbw did this year funnily enough.
July 9th 2012 @ 4:44pm
KiwiDave said | July 9th 2012 @ 4:44pm | Report comment
SBW hadn’t put the yards in and progressed enough in Rugby Union to lock down the 12 spot. He has a lot to learn about the rugby code still and if he buggers off for 18 months then comes back, he will find himself in the same scenario come 2015. He will not have put the yards in again to lock the 12 spot.
July 9th 2012 @ 12:13pm
Go warriors said | July 9th 2012 @ 12:13pm | Report comment
Geez it is all about SBW today. I think this is the 4th article on SBW today. It is no coincidence that SBW returning to RL happens to be the same year of the RLWC. There is no doubt he would love to win the RL world cup and add that to his union world cup. Very few players get to win a world cup let alone a world cup in both codes.
Mind you he does have to make the Kiwi team first. The Kiwis have a got an enormous amount of depth and it is not like they have been struggling in the last few years so he will really have to work hard to get back into the team.
July 10th 2012 @ 12:22am
D Maaga said | July 10th 2012 @ 12:22am | Report comment
sbw will walk into the kiwis squad hands down and the nzrl will make sure it happens.
July 10th 2012 @ 12:22am
D Maaga said | July 10th 2012 @ 12:22am | Report comment
sbw will walk into the kiwis squad hands down and the nzrl will make sure it happens.
July 9th 2012 @ 12:20pm
Cruise said | July 9th 2012 @ 12:20pm | Report comment
Talent? He’s done nothing in Union. He was barely part of the WC team. Granted this year he’s played very well for the Chiefs and then pretty good against a depleted Irish team. Hardly the Springboks, French or Wallabies.As far as this handshake made before union, give me a break. Another part of the circus. Seriously?
July 9th 2012 @ 12:47pm
Kuruki said | July 9th 2012 @ 12:47pm | Report comment
SBW will be remembered for his off field circus more then anything he has done on the paddock. Jack of all trades master of none.
July 9th 2012 @ 12:58pm
Worlds Biggest said | July 9th 2012 @ 12:58pm | Report comment
Incredible athlete but as Ryan stated, doesn’t stay in a sport long enough to justify the ” Great ” tag. Cruise – $BW featured in most of the World Cup games and got over the line 3 or 4 times, not bad for a substitute player.