Time to put another NRL gripe on the barbie
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As the steaks and snags sizzled at a mate’s barbecue last weekend, the ice cold beer was somehow replaced by some great Australian whines.
One of the lads began rattling off the things he didn’t like about rugby league and in a flash the BBQ became a bonfire.
In the tradition of comedian Rodney Rude’s “Ya know what I hate,” everyone pitched forth their gripes about our favourite sport and the banter was still flying long after the grill went cold.
It started out with a good old moan about golden point. No-one present liked it (yet, curiously, some found tolerance for it if their team happened to get up).
We then got stuck into inconsistent referees, the blind mice in the video box, almost weekly jumper changes, salary cap rorters, crappy food at venues, the stadium at Homebush and most of all Channel Nine, the station’s match scheduling, commercials and commentators.
I didn’t say too much on the day as I could hardly get a word in and besides, those juicy T-bones were to die for.
Instead, I thought I’d have a quiet vent here at The Roar. Perhaps you will agree with some of my gripes and I’m sure you’ll have plenty of your own logs to toss on the fire.
OK, get those bibs on, here we go:
I am growing increasingly frustrated at players rushing in to pat a team-mate on the back after he has sloppily lost the ball on the first tackle or kicked it out on the full attempting a quick re-start.
For heaven’s sake, let the guilty party know he has committed a mortal sin, and that he has cost his team dearly. Hopefully, he’ll be terrified to cough it up next time he handles.
And while I am on kicking, it peeves me to see players kicking the ball dead from 40 metres in order to take a dangerous fullback or winger out of play. I realise it gives the defence time to get set but it’s boring and devoid of all confidence and imagination.
I loathe players saying “full credit to the boys” after a win. That’s a broken record, surely they can come up with something more original.
Two seasoned commentators, Laurie Daley and Bob Fulton, have really annoying habits that should have been eradicated long ago by their producers.
Lozza, the word is “get” not “git.” Take that on board. Please.
Bozo probably means well but that’s no excuse for punctuating almost every sentence with “I mean…” If you say what you mean, that will be meaningful enough.
Then there’s ABC radio with its commercial-free match commentary headed up by Warren Ryan and David Morrow. Someone should tell these guys that people need to know the score often, not every seven or eight minutes.
And while on the media, how can Channel 9 employ Darren Lockyer with a voice that sounds like broken glass rolled into sandpaper on steroids? Sure, the guy did it all as a player but he is extremely hard to listen to and take notice of as an expert.
TAB Sportsbet’s Jaimee Rogers is probably a lovely young lady. I just think she should be advertising toothpaste rather than spruiking the latest football odds. Can somebody turn those teeth down a bit?
Let’s move on to some coaches. Does anyone want to see Steve Kearney get angry, even slightly miffed at Parra’s lamentable performances? They say nice guys run last. He probably will.
And what about Ivan Clearout, I mean Cleary, at Penrith? Coach, rugby league legends don’t grow on trees in the golden west or anywhere else. What were you thinking releasing Luke Lewis, your club’s current and best player of the past decade?
Oh, and before I pass the tongs over to you, dear Roarers, do ya know what I really hate?
Queensland winning Origin.
Again.
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July 11th 2012 @ 3:42am
81paling said | July 11th 2012 @ 3:42am | Report comment
Just wanted to address the referee issue of bad calls, it has been put forward a few times but, always dismissed and that is the NFL system of throwing a “a flag on the play”. Meaning that the coach does not agree with the referee’s call and wants to take the decision upstairs to the video ref.
There is no reason that Rugby League cannot do the same and that a coach can only be allowed to contest the ref’s call 3 time’s during a match. This would mean the ref makes a call each time a potential video ref decision is made (which could only save time) but, the real advantage of this is it would reduce the controversy returning impartiality to the man in the middle (the ref).
This idea should have been tested and for those in the marketing of the NRL who think that controversy is good for the game well it is not, it makes people turn off. We only have to look at the NFL in the US who go out of their way to avoid any kind of controversy and compare it to boxing. Look at both sports 30 years ago they were comparable in revenue etc now boxing is a fraction the size of the NFL yet it is always surrounded in controversy.
July 11th 2012 @ 10:20am
soapit said | July 11th 2012 @ 10:20am | Report comment
isnt it the refs that throw the flag in nfl?
July 11th 2012 @ 10:34am
bernie said | July 11th 2012 @ 10:34am | Report comment
NFL umpires throw yellow flags to show an infringement. NFL coaches get challenges by throwing red flags onto the field before the next play starts. If their challenge is successful, the call is corrected. To stop them throwing frivolous challenges though, if their challenge is unsuccessful, their team loses a timeout.
The last point is important for rugby league. There does need to be some form of penalty if a challenge is unsuccessful. It avoids a situation where a coach can throw out a challenge to slow the game down when the other side has momentum. You want the right calls to be made, but you don’t want to create incentives to strategically slow down play.
July 11th 2012 @ 3:06pm
mushi said | July 11th 2012 @ 3:06pm | Report comment
The first point is also very important they can only throw them in between plays. this is where it get difficult in the NRL as there aren’t defined gaps in play all the time.
July 11th 2012 @ 4:24pm
Mango Jack said | July 11th 2012 @ 4:24pm | Report comment
Yes, we don’t want to introduce the worst of all American sports concepts – the time out.
July 11th 2012 @ 6:48am
liquorbox_ said | July 11th 2012 @ 6:48am | Report comment
“And while I am on kicking, it peeves me to see players kicking the ball dead from 40 metres in order to take a dangerous fullback or winger out of play. I realise it gives the defence time to get set but it’s boring and devoid of all confidence and imagination.”
100% agree, if it goes over the dead ball line then have a scrum where the ball was kicked from
July 11th 2012 @ 10:20am
soapit said | July 11th 2012 @ 10:20am | Report comment
or at least the option scrum or 20m
July 11th 2012 @ 10:55am
Matt F said | July 11th 2012 @ 10:55am | Report comment
I like that idea. It would stop the deliberate dead ball kicks straight away. Thoguh it’s probably far too simple and obvious for the NRL…
July 11th 2012 @ 3:09pm
mushi said | July 11th 2012 @ 3:09pm | Report comment
Well there is the unintended consequence of it discourages teams from trying to get rewarded for a quality chase and kick by pinning the oppponent in the in goal.
July 12th 2012 @ 2:41pm
JVGO said | July 12th 2012 @ 2:41pm | Report comment
They would kick for the sideline all the time instead of going for th eingoal trap.
July 11th 2012 @ 5:09pm
dishes said | July 11th 2012 @ 5:09pm | Report comment
i don’t think it could possibly be from where the ball was kicked but maybe it’s time for the tap to be taken on the 30 metre line, not the 20
July 11th 2012 @ 8:44am
Will Sinclair said | July 11th 2012 @ 8:44am | Report comment
There are plenty of things I hate about modern rugby league:
– Excessive interchanges (these blokes are full time super athletes, they don’t need a sit down every 15 minutes);
– Too many great athletes and not enough great footballers;
– All the teams look the same, tactically speaking. Everyone runs the same plays. It’s dull as hell.
– Too many tries from kicks. If you have run out of ideas, you shouldn’t be rewarded for putting in a speculative kick out to the wingers hoping for a lucky bounce; and
– Risk free coaches. Deadset, there are some skillful players in the NRL who are being told not to pass the ball, under any circumstances. Let them try something!
July 11th 2012 @ 9:06am
Matt F said | July 11th 2012 @ 9:06am | Report comment
All good gripes. i think that solving your first issue would probably go a long way to some of the others. Reduce the number of interchanges down to 8, or even fewer at some point in the future, and you should end up slowing the game by down which should create more space for the creative types to work their magic.
July 11th 2012 @ 8:46am
Will Sinclair said | July 11th 2012 @ 8:46am | Report comment
And that’s without mentioning the media.
My biggest gripe with the media is the constant references to rugby league as “our game”.
You’re meant to have a bit of objectivity, people. Try to at least appear professional.
July 11th 2012 @ 8:55am
peeeko said | July 11th 2012 @ 8:55am | Report comment
My biggest gripe about rugby league is the amount of griping that goes on!
July 11th 2012 @ 9:07am
Matt F said | July 11th 2012 @ 9:07am | Report comment
The only thing worse is the griping about the griping
July 11th 2012 @ 9:23am
Mark Young said | July 11th 2012 @ 9:23am | Report comment
Spot on with the ABC not giving the score.
Get an egg timer, If you see it empty, give the score and turn it over.
Repeat until the end of the game.
July 11th 2012 @ 9:30am
steve b said | July 11th 2012 @ 9:30am | Report comment
Scrums what a total waste of time and the refs are still blowing their whistle when they dont feed it right ,,drives me nuts ,,surely we can come up with something better ,,and ref inconsistentcy one week its ok the next its not ,,and if they are going to penalize laying on a player to long ,how long is to long ,, sometimes this one leaves you scratching your head…And Ray Hadley cant they get someone with more cred than this guy ,,bigmouth joke ..and if we didn’t have a gripe this site would be no more ….
July 14th 2012 @ 10:34am
john said | July 14th 2012 @ 10:34am | Report comment
steve can’t agree more about Hadley he is such a boring commentator, I wonder who’s wife Vossy slept with to be taken off the roast and not have his regular commentating spot
July 11th 2012 @ 9:40am
Johnno said | July 11th 2012 @ 9:40am | Report comment
steve b rugby has scrums why are they are a waste of time.
July 11th 2012 @ 9:50am
steve b said | July 11th 2012 @ 9:50am | Report comment
Do rugby scrums mean anything ?are they contested !
July 11th 2012 @ 11:11am
Lovey said | July 11th 2012 @ 11:11am | Report comment
Scrums are a joke. Try explaining them to anyone who doesn’t know the game. Scrap them, or make them proper contests for possession.
July 11th 2012 @ 11:31am
Maroon Blood said | July 11th 2012 @ 11:31am | Report comment
Funny you should say that as I was actually trying to explain their relevance to a non-leaguie the other day (I live in WA, go figure) and was on struggle street big time. Best I could come up with was it keeps the forwards out of the play for a restart and if they were removed and becam just a handover or tap kick, the big forwards wouldn’t be able to keep up with the increased pace of play and disappear from the game.
Also Lovey, are you old enough to remember when RL scrums WERE contested? They were a complete shambles and were even more of a joke compared to Union scrums. With the size and power of todays front rowers, I would shudder to think what would happen if they went back to pushing in scrums and they collapsed, the risk of the sort of injury suffered by Penrith player John Farragher back in 1978 would be far to great to justify a return to competitive scrums.
July 11th 2012 @ 12:03pm
Lovey said | July 11th 2012 @ 12:03pm | Report comment
Yep, Maroon Blood, I am that old. I remember, the same time as unlimited tackles. Hookers actually hooked, that is how possession changed, I guess. I honestly don’t know the answer, but the present schemozzle is not it.
July 11th 2012 @ 2:08pm
steve b said | July 11th 2012 @ 2:08pm | Report comment
yes i dont know the answer,,, scrums back in the day were a mess ,but i think i would prefer a contest rather than the way it is at the moment …..
July 12th 2012 @ 2:46pm
JVGO said | July 12th 2012 @ 2:46pm | Report comment
It was exactly like union, endless resets and penalties. Union scrums are not even a contest of possession, tight heads are extremely rare but scrum peanalties will often decide a game. union scrums are really attempts to gain a penalty, no other purpose.
July 11th 2012 @ 10:09am
Gareth said | July 11th 2012 @ 10:09am | Report comment
My big gripe at the moment are the “Home of Rugby League” ads that Channel 9 are running, with big Michael Bay slo-mo shots of the detestable idiots they employ to give “colourful” commentary. It’s absolutely laughable given the attitude most punters have toward Nine’s indifferent coverage, constant cross promotion and awful, contrived old man bickering.
July 11th 2012 @ 10:53am
JazzyJase said | July 11th 2012 @ 10:53am | Report comment
loved the read. I can’t understand the rush in pat player on head for clumsily dropping the ball either. Parra V Manly, some bloke dropped the pill before 3 mins of game had elapsed. It was within the Parramatta 20 yard line and Manly had scrum win in perfect position. It was an ordinary drop and lack of respect for the ball. the Parra teammantes swarmed on him – Mannah is the master at this. It gets my goat