Some suggestions for the Independent Commission
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Now that the State Of Origin series is out of the way and the NRL season enters the “home stretch” in the lead up to the finals, it’s time to draw breath and give the still-squeaky clean Independent Commission a few things to ponder.
Let’s hope they aren’t too busy picking out Mal Meninga wallpaper for the new office and hiding the “Lockyer For Immortal” placards under the Bobby Fulton Coaching Manuals.
Golden point
Peter Sterling doesn’t like it and that’s good enough for me. Get rid of it. A draw is a result. Forget this warped notion of “golden try”, it’s really quite simple: After 80 minutes, the game ends, no matter what the score.
Cronulla and the Roosters extended a frankly turgid affair on Monday night by 10 more barely interesting minutes, when all that could have happened in normal time. Save the golden point for when it is really needed; in the finals, where the stakes are really high. As it is, a team loses in golden point in the regular season, shrugs a bit, mutters about lack of field position, and goes around the following week.
Player trades
Why oh why does the NRL distract itself from its on-field action by having players announce their playing intentions for seasons outside of the current one? Is there a league in the world where that happens? This is what the off-season is for. It keeps the game in the news for reasons other than Mad Mondays gone wrong or end of season trips that come a cropper. I know that salary cap issues make it difficult for clubs to be able to finalise their playing rosters but surely October and November can become “bean counter” time where the coaches and the CFOs put their heads together and develop a shopping list for the following season.
In fact, they can do the groundwork during the season but there seems to be no need to announce that half the current Manly pack will be at the Eels and Canterbury next year, or that Parramatta have bought another halfback to bolster their Jim Beam Cup squad. By all means, if a player moves clubs mid season – hello Sam Perrett – then all well and good, but if you were Darcy Lussick and you were facing your future team mates in a game, would you have maybe just the slightest niggling little doubt before you stampeded over one of them? Insert any other name you wish there, Lussick just popped up because I’m sorry to see him go.
Representative football
The rugby league representative season is like the episode of Seinfeld where everything happens in reverse order, and we saw the end at the beginning. First off, the concept of the ANZAC Test is pretty stupid. Australia and New Zealand haven’t actually played each other on ANZAC Day for as long as I can remember. It’s the day the Dragons and Roosters have classics at the SFS. Secondly, Australia and New Zealand were on the same side when the ANZAC legend was born. Why commemorate this historical alliance by playing against each other?
But that’s the tip of the iceberg. I seem to remember that the rep season used to have a fairly logical sequence. First off, there was City versus Country. From there, the NSW side was selected to play State Of Origin. At the end of the series, an Australian team was picked for a Test against New Zealand. Nowadays, the Test match comes first, then NSW insist on a City-Country farce while Queensland laugh at the concept of their upcoming opponents belting each other in a meaningless game while their squad has been picked in the minds of the coaching staff for a month.
Get rid of City-Country, move the test away from the proximity of ANZAC Day to the end of the season, and stop pretending State of Origin isn’t the pinnacle of rugby league.
Gambling sponsorship
Three seasons ago, rugby league had a huge image problem when it came to players and drinking. Without doubt, it wasn’t the only sport that encountered the issue, but with every person nowadays armed with an instant recording device that they sometimes use as a phone, player indiscretions became instant public news fodder. To their great credit, the league tackled the issue and all clubs have adopted alcohol management strategies which have gone a long way to curtailing the PR disasters of the recent past.
But the cancer that will eventually eat away at the game has insinuated itself. Gambling on the game is now so rife that no half time analysis is complete without Glen Munsie or Jamee Rogers getting air time in the same segment as the game analysts, and even they now seem duty-bound to give us the odds on just about anything you could dream up to put a bet on.
I know it’ll never happen because the gambling industry is now the golden-egg laying monster that has grabbed rugby league like a parasite, but so called “exotic” bets need to be wiped out completely. It is just too easy to manipulate, and even easier to convince players that “it doesn’t matter, it doesn’t affect the final result.”
The greater underlying problem is the bombardment of betting options to attempt to part a punter with his/her cash (but usually “his”, my admittedly haphazard observations don’t turn up many women with gambling problems, they just cop the aftermath when hubby loses the family home on a sure bet). Make no mistake about it, gambling is addictive, and the social issues go far deeper than a bloke slapping his forehead at the local betting agency because his team didn’t beat the points start.
Two sides have a gambling agency as their major sponsor, and one famous ground is now named after the same agency. In an era where the game has done much to present a positive community face with links to the Children’s Hospital, the Women In League round and breast cancer research, getting into bed with the gambling industry won’t get the game respect in the morning.
The Commission has been a bit quiet lately. Time to tackle these meaty subjects and get them to earn their keep. Now is the time for action.
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July 11th 2012 @ 10:07am
Johnno said | July 11th 2012 @ 10:07am | Report comment
-Some have said here that basically they are pay with the I/C being a dictatorship rather than a democracy. But wasn’t the I/C in theory suppose to represent democracy models and values not private enterprise boss dictatorship model. And isn’t just really one dictator replacing another dictatorship . new to the I/C. Why have the I/C in the 1st place it doesn’t make sense.
-And rep footy must be cleansed up no more turn coat tamou or Ben Te’o playing state of origin. The good news is and RLIF cleared this up is unreality playing origin doesn’t mean you cant play for NZ.
-Ben Teo is still allowed to play for NZ under the eligibility rules. And felt mateo born in OZ can still play for tonga,.
-Gotta keep the gambling sponsorship in as with alcohol . I was always against banning tobacco sponsorship. They bring in the money, like gambling and alcohol.
-Sp we need gambling sponsorship money rl don’t have a choice. F1 still might allow tobacco sponsorhip.
July 11th 2012 @ 10:57am
Von Neumann said | July 11th 2012 @ 10:57am | Report comment
personally I am vehemently against smoking. I do not even like it advertised at the super market (and they took it away) but I also do not like its very presence at the super market. They should be confined to unmarked shops. Its a shame too that RL cannot use it for advertising even so. Would like the money, but there are plenty of other sponsors out there.
The days of promoting lung disease and cancer are over.
Now, gambling. I am vehemently against gambling as well. Its too intertwined into the coverage. THIS IS NOT A DAY AT THE RACES.
Its too much. They can be visible, but they need to step back a bit. Hopefully when digital tv comes in 100% seamless, people will be able to turn such things off.
July 11th 2012 @ 12:20pm
apaway said | July 11th 2012 @ 12:20pm | Report comment
There is no direct tobacco sponsorship in F1, Johnno. It’s not a case of “bringing in the money” when it came to tobacco sponsorship. Companies don’t sponsor sports as some kind of charitable benefactor, they do it so their product sells more. Tobacco’s main target market was teenagers, get them hooked for life and don’t worry about the consequences years from now when those teenagers have cancer and cost the health system millions. No one could seriously think this is a good outcome.
July 11th 2012 @ 1:00pm
Johnno said | July 11th 2012 @ 1:00pm | Report comment
apaway, for a start facts about alcohol, gambling ,tobacco, adult entertainment industry, fast food industry, .
-they all create jobs and the money they generate in employments far outweigh the public health taxpayer costs at least in my opinion.
-But do you think apaway fast food ads should be banned and sponsorship eg mcdonalds, KFC, Pizza hut.
-Adult services company wanted to sponsor the old northern eagles and got banned was not allowed.
So apaway do you think the time has come to ban gambling, fast food and alcohol sponsorship. I don’t i still don’t have a problems with tobacco sponsorship, and i am a non smoker, mild drinker , and almost never gamble , and almost never eat fast food unless when going to the snow or eating late at night.
July 12th 2012 @ 9:16am
apaway said | July 12th 2012 @ 9:16am | Report comment
Yes Johnno. I have a huge problem with tobacco sponsorship because tobacco kills people. But it is a moot point. Tobacco sponsorship is banned and the article wasn’t at all about that.
Gambling sponsorship is almost a “conflict of interest” because the more exotic the bet, the more pressure can be exerted on the participants to influence the result. Not to mention the numerous social problems gambling fosters.
July 11th 2012 @ 10:10am
Curious said | July 11th 2012 @ 10:10am | Report comment
Do we still have an ARLC commission? They’ve been so quiet, perhaps they’ve disbanded.
July 11th 2012 @ 10:54am
Von Neumann said | July 11th 2012 @ 10:54am | Report comment
Thats how its meant to be. When the new ceo comes along, one would think they will let him do the talking mostly.
July 11th 2012 @ 11:10am
Von Neumann said | July 11th 2012 @ 11:10am | Report comment
Here’s my suggestions.
Years ago someone online asked me what I would do right then, for the game, top 3 things.
I said 1. Independent commission. 2 Rep football focus, 3. juniors. Reasoned that the comp was being taken care of with salary cap, ect.
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That was 5+ years ago. I do not know who that person was, but all those things have happened. I guess they are no brainers.
Here’s some more no-brainers; to be honest, there are not that many things left to do.
1. Team in Perth, 2nd Brisbane team, 2nd NZ team….in that order. Forget central coast.
2. Nationwide live coverage.
3. HD footy if/when possible on FTA.
4 Fix Test pathways. Make it worthwhile and set-in-stone for Juniors.
5. State of Origin in Perth, USA, NZ.
6. Shorten actual NRL season by a few rounds, its too long atm
7. Expanded World Club challenge.
8. Live RL delivered over internet to your tv.
9 No mid season player trades.
10 More focus on Tests; building up opposing test nations/not detracting from NZ.
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ON GOLDEN POINT.
- Maybe it should be golden try, with the team who did not score first losing a player. Or just embrace draws?
July 11th 2012 @ 11:15am
Von Neumann said | July 11th 2012 @ 11:15am | Report comment
oops, this is outside stuff like stadium rationalization – which I personally think, ONCE WE START using parramatta/sfs/homebush 2 or 3 times more than we do now….then things like RAIL UPGRADES AND STADIA-SEATING upgrades will be seen as more viable by those in charge.
So that may take care of itself. This all ties into club finances, because with better facilities, they will be able to make more money through attendance and all the habit, culture and support it brings.
Thats about it. We will really need the commissions ability to manage and forsee, ect, and process to ‘get it right’, because all those things about won’t just happen by themselves….including the O.P’s [good] suggestions.
July 11th 2012 @ 11:56am
Uncle Pauly said | July 11th 2012 @ 11:56am | Report comment
It’s beyond a joke. Remove gambling from all levels of football, let them latch on some other sport like the leeches they are.
Meat tray raffles. That’s what footy is about.
July 11th 2012 @ 12:08pm
Johnno said | July 11th 2012 @ 12:08pm | Report comment
-Uncle Pauly you answered your own opinion perfectly meat tray raffles that’s what footy is all about.
-With that attitude meat tray raffles don’t bring in the dollars and revenue, and thats why league would stay a small world suburban sydney sport with a battler cutlure, not a rich cashed up culture.
-Sports betting and gambling sponsors pay the bills, meat tray raffles don’t. Thats why i supported super league. Pay tv pay the bills not free to air.
July 11th 2012 @ 12:11pm
apaway said | July 11th 2012 @ 12:11pm | Report comment
Well said, Uncle. Or Spot The Ball Competitions, as used to be run in Big League magazine!
July 11th 2012 @ 12:28pm
Von Neumann said | July 11th 2012 @ 12:28pm | Report comment
for golden point, why dont we make it golden try; AND then shorten the field to 50m long. put a matt across the 50m area, and then they will get to the business quicker. play until a try is scored. and/or start removing players according to who scored first, ect.
July 11th 2012 @ 12:29pm
Von Neumann said | July 11th 2012 @ 12:29pm | Report comment
Also,
I read this, and I think NHL uses this system too
Keep golden point, just reward the team for losing.
4 points – normal win
3 points – golden point win
2 points – golden point draw
1 point – golden point loss
0 point – normal loss
4 points come out of every game, everyone’s a winner
July 11th 2012 @ 4:57pm
Gareth said | July 11th 2012 @ 4:57pm | Report comment
The biggest problem I see with any form of sudden death extra time is the lawlessness of it all. No referee wants to be the one who blows their whistle and decides it, so both sides get away with murder. The ten metres becomes 7 metres, markers and spoilers jump very early, and the quality of the attack goes out the window. It’s exacerbated by the arm wrestle to get into field goal range currently, but I’m not sure golden try would be any better.
Personally, I’d like to see the “Props Pentathlon” concept put into practice.
July 11th 2012 @ 12:28pm
oikee said | July 11th 2012 @ 12:28pm | Report comment
Fans want golden point, it is up to the Commission to change the points system, 1 point each for finishing in a draw, a extra point for winning golden point.
Why is this deemed so hard. It is like the corner post, just change the damm system, oh wait, we can’t now it is mid way through the season.
Change it for next year, it really is no big deal, you then wont get the loser whigning because he lost the game.
If they get a point, they wont cry like little babies, and Sterlo wont have to whinge. This game is full of whingers, and noone prepared to fix the problems, when they do try to fix them, like changing the rules of the game, they make things worse.
When is someone going to step forward to run this game. It is like a pirate comp. Perth should be a shoe-in.
July 11th 2012 @ 2:00pm
steve b said | July 11th 2012 @ 2:00pm | Report comment
yeh oikee i have nicknamed the new commish the – invisable men- when are they going to tackle some of the hard decisions,,,,, they said they were going to be more upfront with players ,,fans ,,and clubs where are they ?
July 11th 2012 @ 8:45pm
db swannie said | July 11th 2012 @ 8:45pm | Report comment
The simple reason why the IC is a bit quiet,is because they are in the middle of a tv rights deal
& if they pull off the massive payday that RL fans are expecting ,then most of these problems will be fixed.
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Until you know what $$ you have to spend in the next 5 yrs then planning or making rash decisions is a little unwise.
I also thought that the tv gambling ads were not allowed after this yr.
July 11th 2012 @ 12:32pm
turbodewd said | July 11th 2012 @ 12:32pm | Report comment
Golden point is great. More footy, more entertainment. I see zero harm in it.
I am also sick of the gambling that’s gone overboard with the NRL. Its all over the jerseys, its popping up in the TV coverage all the time. I can tolerate it, Im just no fan of it.
If the Ryan Tandy affair wasnt a warning sign that the NRL shouldnt be getting into bed so much with gambling then I dont know what is.
What’s to stop some waterboy spiking his team’s water then gambling against his own team?!
July 11th 2012 @ 12:37pm
oikee said | July 11th 2012 @ 12:37pm | Report comment
Your second point, the players trade period, i like to see players moving between clubs. The problem with our game is the media, we dont make enough fuss about what players are on the market.
If this was AFL or NFL, it would be front page news, clubs getting excited about maybe picking up a decent mid year signing, what is our reporters up to, talking about players having a wee under a bridge or Myles head used as a weapon of mass destruction.
Look, the media in our game are hopeless, they need to be out their talking this period up, not looking for bad boys who are having a drink after work.
And to say we are the only code that does this, ? Maybe that is a good thing, a strength of our game, and we carry on like it is silly to think outside the square.
Get behind this, we should have a list of players being transferred so we all know who and what is going on. This is the real problem.
It has been done to death why the transfer date wont work at a latter date for league, our game is different, let it be different. Our players are local tribal guys, we cater to them more than any other code, this is a good thing, not bad.