Killing the Golden Goose: NRL’s extra-time options evaluated
By Chris Chard, 13 Jul 2012 Chris Chard is a Roar Expert
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The NRL’s Golden Point tie-breaker system has been in the targets of people other than Wayne Bennett this week thanks to Monday night’s lame duck finish.
What had been envisioned in its conception as an epic climax to obliterate drawn results had turned into the proverbial fart at a funeral, as both Cronulla and the Roosters spent the ten minute extra-time period shuffling around offside and attempting field goals that would take home the grand prize on ‘Australia’s Funniest Home Videos’.
Obviously this is not ideal, but what other options exist for John Grant and has disciples? With everyman and his cattledog chucking in his ideas let’s take a moment to evaluate each possible alternative to Golden Point.
Draw
Let’s start with the obvious one eh, being traditional and everything as it is.
A draw is essentially footy’s equivalent of ‘To be Continued.’ You’re all caught up in the contest, wondering how your team is going to escape from this one when suddenly you look up and realise there’s no time and Rhhhhhhhheeeeee!
It’s tune in again next week, Batfans.
There can be beauty in a draw, undoubtedly, just like there is beauty in a manual scoreboard and standing on a milk crate at the back of the hill.
This beauty fades rapidly upon repeat however, and sitting in the stand for your fourth draw of the year watching your team’s players wear blank expressions like they’ve just watched a Scandinavian arthouse movie sans subtitles can leave you hankering for something more.
Golden Try
Ahh this old chestnut, the professional version of your Aunty Ollie screaming “Next try wins!” at the post family christening BBQ despite the fact that you’ve just put fifty on your little cousin.
The idea has merit, because as everyone bar Elton Flatley realises the order of footy cool goes try, then goal, then field goal.
However, if players can’t muster the energy after 80min to knock over a half-decent drop kick, are we really expecting sweeping ‘94 Origin game one backline movements?
And despite being mainly used in rugby league to kill time before footy training, is it right to remove goals from our game as a scoring option?
If you can win in the 79th min with a field goal then to make it void two minutes later in extra time seems a little insulting to the Barry Glasgow’s of this world.
Player drop offs
A staple of touch football, this is the process where teams are required to shed a player from their team every so often in extra time until someone scores.
A couple of ex-NRL players, who by the sounds of things are still niggling and showing up the Peter Punters at their local oval, have spruiked this system. But I have my reservations.
Aside from issues with field size, average team possession times and excess game stoppages, do we really want to start borrowing ideas from touch?
For mine it’s a slippery slope to go knicking ideas off your bastard offspring. I worry that if this method is adopted soon we’ll have NRL teams called tacky things like ‘the Pirates,’ wearing jerseys with loud garish designs and an emphasis on speed rather than football skills.
Hang on a second…
Penalty Shootouts
“Ha ha ha wrong sport you gibbered,” I hear you chortle halfway through writing a nasty comment.
Well, maybe it’s not as farfetched as we (would like to) think.
The penalty shoot out, whereby five players from each side line-up to kick a goal from the 22, does exist in some rugby union competitions. Behold.
Thankfully Petero Civoniceva’s conversion attempt the other week has pretty much guaranteed us that the NRL isn’t going to embarrass its players (and in extension us fans) by trying to get them to step up to the tee.
And really, isn’t deciding an 80min smash-athon with kicking practice a bit like deciding a federal election with a game of Uno?
Extra time both ways
No wacky ideas. No tampering with rules. Just a bit of extra value for the fans wanting a result for sledging on the train ride home.
If was good enough for Steve Jackson in ’89 and by jingo it’s good enough for me!
Time we killed this golden goose once and for all.
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Chris Chard is a sports humour writer commenting on the often absurd nature of professional sport. A rugby league fan boy with a good blend of youth and experience taking things one week at a time, Chris has written for The Roar, Rugby League Player Magazine, US Sports Downunder, the QRL and People. Tweet him @Vic_Arious
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July 13th 2012 @ 3:27am
Gremlin said | July 13th 2012 @ 3:27am | Report comment
Dropping players makes no sence to me. It ceases to be RL and becomes Super 7′s, sort of like 20/20 in cricket.
The unfortunate reality is, regardless of which option the NRL adopt ref’s are going to be hesitant in giving penalties when amatch is on the line. Watch the last 10 min’s of any close NRL game.
A draw should be fine for a regular comp’ game, the best pickof a bad bunch is extra time for semis and rep games.
July 13th 2012 @ 4:22am
AndyMack said | July 13th 2012 @ 4:22am | Report comment
Chris, I didnt mind the concept of golden point when it was first mooted. I think time has shown it to be less then ideal. Perhaps just settle for the draw.
The extra time both ways is best for finals games, then perhaps golden point after that, but only in games where we def need a result (without resorting to mid week replays)
July 13th 2012 @ 1:16pm
Chris Chard said | July 13th 2012 @ 1:16pm | Report comment
Is it then a case Andy of all that glitters is not gold?
I too was excited by golden point when it came in but have grown a disliking for it, particularly in games where the team who recieves the ball first in GP slots a field goal with the other team having no right of reply…seems a bit unsporting to me.
All the best
Chris
July 13th 2012 @ 4:01pm
Christo the Daddyo said | July 13th 2012 @ 4:01pm | Report comment
Yep – agree that it advantages the team with first possession.
I’m starting to come around to the ‘I’m actually OK with a draw’ school of thought.
July 13th 2012 @ 6:08am
sheek said | July 13th 2012 @ 6:08am | Report comment
Extra-time is for finals play-offs, when one team must progress, & the other team says farewell for the year.
Draws are for home & away matches, where the teams will play again the following week against someone else.
Besides, draws help separate teams on the ladder. It’s worked wonderfully for over 70 years across many sports.
Kill the home & away extra-time golden point. It was a stupid idea right from the beginning…..
July 13th 2012 @ 12:28pm
Curious said | July 13th 2012 @ 12:28pm | Report comment
Sheek, and so say all of us!
July 13th 2012 @ 1:12pm
Chris Chard said | July 13th 2012 @ 1:12pm | Report comment
Yes it’s a good point you raise Sheek about draws seperating teams on the ladder.
The Roosters with their one point on Monday night move to 17 points, whilst the Titans who lost a game earlier in the year in golden point are 1pt behind them on 16 points.
Would be an interesting exercise to go back and rearrange the ladder at the end of the season using drawn at full-time results rather than golden point ones to see the difference it has made.
Cheers
CC
July 13th 2012 @ 6:18am
soapit said | July 13th 2012 @ 6:18am | Report comment
either straight draw or extra time each way then draw for me thanks
July 13th 2012 @ 1:00pm
Meesta Cool said | July 13th 2012 @ 1:00pm | Report comment
Soapit.. I agree this is the best solution, although a drw can lead to less teams being on the same points at the end of the regular season.. I would rather miss out on the top eight by being a point behind than miss out because of averages. —
YUp, 5 mins either way extra time. if result is a draw — so be it.
We need to find a way that the end of season points are such that a team with the same points can miss out on the finals series. I have often thought that a points system of 1 pt for half tine lead and 2 points for full time, ( full time is after the ten extra minutes if a draw is the result then both teams get 1 point each) — I believed that this would be a fair system, but the jury is still out on this one,
July 13th 2012 @ 6:48am
KSI said | July 13th 2012 @ 6:48am | Report comment
I just read an article on another site saying Nine and Fox want to keep Golden Point as it spikes their ratings. So looks like its here to stay. So working on that I would like to see the points system changed to suit.
3 points for regulation win
2 points for GP win
1 point for GP loss
0 points for regulation loss
I would also like to see it scraped for finals. I’m a Broncos fan and was over the moon with their GP victory over St George in the semi’s last year but I think it should be 5 or 10 minutes each way of normal rules extra time then go to GP if needed.
July 13th 2012 @ 7:28am
oikee said | July 13th 2012 @ 7:28am | Report comment
Yes, that is pretty good. Alot better than scrapping the system. I cant beleive these coaches have a voice on this, what they should do is deduct the television time off their payments, that will shut them up.
I am paying Fox, not them.
July 13th 2012 @ 10:52am
PGNEWC said | July 13th 2012 @ 10:52am | Report comment
The same system sort of works in Canadian Ice Hocky
July 13th 2012 @ 10:55am
Matt said | July 13th 2012 @ 10:55am | Report comment
Spikes the ratings? How?
July 13th 2012 @ 12:02pm
oikee said | July 13th 2012 @ 12:02pm | Report comment
People turn off if the score is blowing out, if it goes into extra point, you watch it to the end, so a spike in the ratings.
To give you another example, the tv ratings, you normally see a lets say 200 thousand average, it peaked at 218, and got as low as maybe 170, the 170 would be at the end when the game was 30 nil.
If it was 20 all, then that 218 thousand would probably be constant. So at the end of the game, average might have been 210 thousand watchign the game. So you have more watching, simple math.
No worries, pleased to help.
July 13th 2012 @ 1:05pm
Meesta Cool said | July 13th 2012 @ 1:05pm | Report comment
In Victoria, Channel Nine would just turn off at full time and we would have to check internet to see who won… We shouldn’t change this part of the game for a TV station that doesn’t really care.
Golden Point is a complete farce.. If a team has a good kicker, they only need to get over the half way line on the first set of tackles and it’s GAME OVER… I hate it!.
July 13th 2012 @ 3:16pm
soapit said | July 13th 2012 @ 3:16pm | Report comment
thats not a spike. thats a drop in games that blow out.
ur not comparing apples to apples there. you’ve gotta compare the golden point ratings to what they would have been if the game was a draw, a blowout
July 13th 2012 @ 3:22pm
Matt said | July 13th 2012 @ 3:22pm | Report comment
I do not see how it could possibly be a spike in ratings. The odds of someone turning on the TV for the few minutes of extra time is very small. And I don’t care about the last 3 minutes if I didn’t watch the first 80.
July 13th 2012 @ 12:56pm
dishes said | July 13th 2012 @ 12:56pm | Report comment
What if it stays a draw after golden point? 1 1/2 points each? I think the NRL should go for 4 points for regulation win, 3 points for GP win, 2 points for a draw, 1 point for GP loss, 0 points for regulation loss.
Much fairer, but we still have the excitement of golden point. Everyone’s happy (except Wayne Bennett).
July 13th 2012 @ 7:15am
xaviercrane said | July 13th 2012 @ 7:15am | Report comment
The Golden Shower: first team to head into the sheds, get clean, put on their suits and hit up the free bar at the leagues club across the road is the winner.
July 13th 2012 @ 9:02am
B.A Sports said | July 13th 2012 @ 9:02am | Report comment
The Golden Shower! Haven’t we had enough inappropriate behaviour from NRL players over the years?!
July 13th 2012 @ 9:41am
Damn Straight said | July 13th 2012 @ 9:41am | Report comment
Haha, funniest thing i’ve read all week…although i was expecting a different sort of golden shower. Nice double entendre.
July 13th 2012 @ 1:40pm
Chris Chard said | July 13th 2012 @ 1:40pm | Report comment
I hear Gary ‘ Wiz’ Freeman has been pushing pretty hard for this method…
July 13th 2012 @ 4:59pm
Its a Beets up said | July 13th 2012 @ 4:59pm | Report comment
If that rule was implemented you certainly wouldn’t want to finish number 2
July 13th 2012 @ 7:24am
oikee said | July 13th 2012 @ 7:24am | Report comment
The game can’t allow these dinosaurs to drag the game back into the past, just when we need to be moving forward.
Next they will be pulling down the grandstands and have us all sitting on the grass and mud hills again.
The fans are the people who should have a say on this, not the coaches because as normal, it does not suit them.
Go back to a draw, think about that, no really think. How negative is that, we might as well dust off the black boots with the old inch spikes and grab the leather ball out of the mueseum so we can keep dinosaur Bennett happy.
All they have to do is change the point system, each get a point after 80 minutes, then play 10 extra minutes and first point scoroer gets a extra point if they are in front. The loser gets rewarded.
The real losers here is the coaches who are trying to take our game backwards, if the game allows them to have a say, trust me, you will be wetting your pants looking for a toilet at grounds without seats and no rain covers.
These are the same dinosaurs wanting to hold the game back from decent facilities for women and children.
Time we took the voice off them, and Bennett has gone past his use by date i am afraid to say.
July 13th 2012 @ 9:23am
solly said | July 13th 2012 @ 9:23am | Report comment
I disagree.
A draw is rewarding both teams. There is no need for an extra 10 minutes just so you can confirm that both teams get rewarded.
If you absolutely need to have a win-lose result, then if it is a draw after 80 minutes, the team that scored the first try in regular time wins. That would put some pressure on the defence…
In anycase, a draw is fine in the premiership rounds.
July 13th 2012 @ 12:14pm
oikee said | July 13th 2012 @ 12:14pm | Report comment
So what you are saying, you be happy to go through life without a winner. No as i said above, think about this.
The coaches want a draw so they recieve a point each, stuff the fans wanting a outcome, they are telling you to go home, be happy with not winning, a draw is close enough.
They are trying to tell you to be happy in life with not getting a outcome, Gee, we might as well all sit down and just share everything, because winning no longer maters to our game or coaches, a draw is close enough.
NO, NO, NO way. I say after 80 minutes, and they still can kick a damm fieldgoal before 80 minutes is uop, after 80 if they are still even, good,. Point each then let the fans see if either can break the deadlock, in extras time where it gets frantic.
The coaches want to take this exciting extra time away from you, that is like having sex and pulling out before the climax. NO.
Say no to the dinosaurs, dont let them dictate to you, next they will be cheering you on at the end of the bed.
And tapping you on the shoulder when your 2 minutes 50 seconds is up, sorry no climax today lads, its a draw.
July 13th 2012 @ 12:54pm
sheek said | July 13th 2012 @ 12:54pm | Report comment
oikee,
“Blah, blah, blah, blah…..”
Extra-time golden point is absolutely unnecessary for home & away games. Purely brought in to fill the pockets of sports bets agencies (straight out win/loss), & allow the NRL to increase their cut of share takings.
You only need extra-time & golden point in play-offs, where obviously only one team can progress to the next stage.
July 13th 2012 @ 2:22pm
oikee said | July 13th 2012 @ 2:22pm | Report comment
Well it has nothing to do with betting to me, as i dont bet. And these guys are like that dude on TV, stealing your dreams, the guy in the ad, i am going on your holiday, i am swimming in your pool.
If you and others are ok to sit back and do nothing, dont complain when it becomes borefest.
I have my dreams, nobody can take away one of the highlights of the game, and Lockyers last game in Golden Point. You wont ever steal that away from me, and your all willing to just throw away anything that does not suit yourself. I am talking about sore loser coaches.
I have mentioned extend it to full 5 minutes each way, it is still golden point golden extra point.
All they have to do is allow a point each after 80 minutes your all locked up, but dont take away our dreams, our kids dreams, their grandkids dreams, your stealing a system we wont ever get back, because the dinosaurs will rule your lives.
And remember, dont ever come crying to me if after 80 minutes they all walk off the field like they did in the AFL granfd final. I will never be part of this joke if the NRL change to normal time.
I will say it again, think about what your going to lose, every action has reaction, your killing dreams, not just a system.
All because a few dinosaurs are unhappy, well i say to bugger with them, lets give em back their dreams Max.
July 13th 2012 @ 2:53pm
NCB619 said | July 13th 2012 @ 2:53pm | Report comment
Does anyone else find it a bit funny that you are using a knockout game where there must be a winner, to defend the use of extra time in a standard home/away season match?
July 13th 2012 @ 12:54pm
Mango Jack said | July 13th 2012 @ 12:54pm | Report comment
Settle, oikee. A draw IS a result. It means both teams have earned the same points on the scoreboard and therefore share the same premiership points. what’s fairer than that?
July 13th 2012 @ 2:28pm
oikee said | July 13th 2012 @ 2:28pm | Report comment
Not to mention the Roosters win against the Tigers in golden point, but hey, your all to willing to throw it all away, because the coach dont like it. Boo hoo, .
Your letting the coach steal away some of the greatest highlights the game has ever seen.
I am speachless, i am without speach.
July 13th 2012 @ 3:03pm
NCB619 said | July 13th 2012 @ 3:03pm | Report comment
Again, using a finals game as part of your reasoning to keep Golden Point in a regular season game is a bit silly.
Obviously, extra time needs to be used in a finals game, so that a result is given, because that is what is needed. In a regular season game… not so much, because it’s the way a team has played over the whole season that determines the outcome of their season, and where they are on the ladder, not the ability of one of their players to struggle to slot a drop-goal over in a frantic rush in added time.
July 13th 2012 @ 1:42pm
solly said | July 13th 2012 @ 1:42pm | Report comment
Uhm, football is not like sex.
Uhm, football is not palaeontology.
Uhm, football is not telling me to be happy with life by not getting an outcome.
But I respect the passion with which you are arguing your point.
Hopefully that passion translates to the bedroom…
July 13th 2012 @ 8:50pm
Mango Jack said | July 13th 2012 @ 8:50pm | Report comment
If he can go ‘the full 80minutes’, I’d love to know his secret!
July 13th 2012 @ 11:02am
Matt said | July 13th 2012 @ 11:02am | Report comment
Haha. If after 80 minutes the teams are still even, then they were just as good on the day and both deserve “half a win”.
I love progress, but a draw is best. My question is what happens for games that must have a result. Golden try perhaps.
July 13th 2012 @ 7:44am
solly said | July 13th 2012 @ 7:44am | Report comment
You only need a win-lose result when one team needs to be eliminated so that the other can progress to the next stage.
Clearly, in the premiership rounds, this is not necessary.
The concept of Golden Point/Time should be used for the finals series.
July 13th 2012 @ 12:55pm
sheek said | July 13th 2012 @ 12:55pm | Report comment
Absolutely correct…..
July 13th 2012 @ 7:52am
p.Tah said | July 13th 2012 @ 7:52am | Report comment
Years ago in junior knock out tournaments you didn’t have time for extra time because the next game was due to start. If the score was a draw the team that scored the first try (in normal time) was the winner.
July 13th 2012 @ 8:03am
soapit said | July 13th 2012 @ 8:03am | Report comment
penalty shoot out?
July 13th 2012 @ 8:27am
p.Tah said | July 13th 2012 @ 8:27am | Report comment
It was done in Rugby Union a few years ago. Probably one of the most stupid ‘innovations’ ever.
Look how excited these players look
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/rugbyunion/club/5269008/Leicesters-penalty-shoot-out-victory-a-poor-way-to-decide-a-superb-contest.html
July 13th 2012 @ 1:03pm
dishes said | July 13th 2012 @ 1:03pm | Report comment
Haha yes it is ridiculous but you’ve gotta admit it’d be funny. I’d love to see the forwards try and line up a conversion to win the match! Kinda like in one-day cricket when the bowlers have to try and score the runs to win the game
July 13th 2012 @ 1:39pm
Chris Chard said | July 13th 2012 @ 1:39pm | Report comment
Deadset if a draw is like “Kissing your Sister” (says Rabs, not me!) then losing a rugby union/league match via a penalty shootout would be like kissing the wall of the Leichardt Oval toilet block….disgraceful idea
Do they still do it?
CC
July 13th 2012 @ 9:30pm
p.Tah said | July 13th 2012 @ 9:30pm | Report comment
Re: penalty shoot out. When it happened some tried to talk it up saying it was a great idea, but I think they were trying to save the blushes of the fools who thought of it. I suspect (I hope) it’s been well and truly shelved never to see the light of day.
My thoughts for deciding a draw after extra time:
1. Team with most tries wins. If number of tries are equal go to 2.
2. Team who scored the first try wins. If no tries were scored, go to 3.
3. Team that scored first points wins (i.e. Penalty goal). If it was a nil all draw go to 4
4. Both teams should give themselves an upper cut and go and play another sport. Let’s just split the points.
July 14th 2012 @ 8:41am
Meesta Cool said | July 14th 2012 @ 8:41am | Report comment
I dislike penalty shoot outs!, HOWEVER: with this system both sides get equal shots at goal, unlike the crazy system that we adopted that gives advantage to the team that has the best ‘shooter’ or field advantage..
I have experienced the ‘empty feeling of a draw, but it wears off after a few beers. If we must have a result play 10 mins extra time score stands at the end of this !. at least with this situation both teams should get equal opportunities to get into a ‘shootathon’..
Oh and with the present system, you may as well play the last 10 minutes without referees….