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A young girl claimed that she was the victim of verbal abuse by St. Kilda AFL players at Melbourne airport after she asked for a photo for her friend.
It was alleged the players responded to her request by saying they only associate with “hot chicks…there should be no fat chicks (as part of player contracts).”
The St. Kilda Football club quickly acted on the matter after the unidentified girl’s mother wrote in to the club. They gave the girl a jersey and made a donation to the Butterfly Foundation. They also released this statement:
“The St Kilda Football Club can confirm we received a complaint from the mother of a young lady alleging comments were made by the players at Melbourne airport on Friday that upset her daughter. The Club has spoken to the playing group, and while there is some conjecture about the comments, the Club is mindful that sensitivities need to be respected. The family involved have indicated their appreciation for the professional way the St Kilda Football Club has managed the matter.”
But for comments such as these, surely the players in question would have to be suspended or at the very least fined. In a world where bullying is reaching new highs with the internet, respected AFL players have to try and set a good example for young people by deterring this sort of behaviour.
Now, we do not know the full extent of the story as privacies must be protected, but when the girl made comments such as, “Instantly my eyes filled up with tears, body image and how I look is important, so that comment, coming from someone who is in the public eye, made me feel like a monster.”
“Now I think everyone around me is thinking those things,” she said.
In light of these comments, the AFL has to seriously consider its stance on respect for fans.
AFL fans pay their own hard earned cash to fund a sport that produces these local, national and international stars. Essentially, they fund the players’ lifestyle.
Therefore, I do not see the problem with the investors wanting a photo.
This could dent the image of St. Kilda and the AFL, bringing the game into disrepute. Something further has to be done to eradicate this sort of behaviour. The right people have to at least sit with the players and find out the full story, then strongly act on it. This is outright bullying.
With that being said, has the club tried to protect its players a little too much in this instance? For a player to bully a fan, and then have no consequences, what does that say about St. Kilda?
Are they going into damage mode with this to try and avoid more scandals? In a perfect world, the player would be publicly shamed, made to apologise and stood down or fined a chunk of his wages.
But unfortunately, none of this will happen and the wrong message will be sent.
What are your thoughts, Roarers? What should St. Kilda do?
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July 18th 2012 @ 7:20am
Emric said | July 18th 2012 @ 7:20am | Report comment
On afl stars
Local yes
National maybe
International ???
July 18th 2012 @ 1:07pm
Me too said | July 18th 2012 @ 1:07pm | Report comment
I’ll say it again. This article is deliberately and falsely defamatory and the ‘omissions’ should be noted.
The alleged story includes the following.
The ‘young girl’ was 21.
The players had already posed with her for photos. She then wanted another group shot later.
No player made those comments to her – she supposedly overheard them jokingly each other.
Why has the author not included this information?
July 18th 2012 @ 8:39am
what load crap said | July 18th 2012 @ 8:39am | Report comment
What a load of crap. This girl would be the ONLY person to have ever been turned down for a photo. Ask any fan, they are always happy to take a picture or have a chat with you.
As for your claim of a cover up, how bout trying to find out exactly what happened and what was alleged to have been said. Maybe the players didnt come forward because NOONE said anything.
July 18th 2012 @ 10:24am
Strummer Jones said | July 18th 2012 @ 10:24am | Report comment
I dont recall a player called Noone in the side? In any case, Noone, playing CHB this week, shouldn’t have said what he said about the fat girl and rolling in the flour etc to find the ‘you-know-what’ comment.
July 18th 2012 @ 8:42am
micka said | July 18th 2012 @ 8:42am | Report comment
They should be fined. The only way morons are punished is to have something they love taken off them. In footy players case it is the precious green (or blue or yellow or lavender).
I can’t believe they didn’t think this would get into the media. It’s not really surprising that we don’t see many footballers in law or accounting etc after they’re done playing… Most are far to dim.
July 18th 2012 @ 9:03am
k77sujith said | July 18th 2012 @ 9:03am | Report comment
How insulting and embarrassing. These are players people look up to and this is how they behave. Utterly disgusting. What can the club do? Penalize them by making them pay fines? That’s not going to help…that’s not going to change their mindset. This is shameful. Grow up boys…it’s not just about how you perform on the field, you’ve got to carry yourself well off the field as well. Learn from legends such as Mike Hussey, Tendulkar, Dravid, Federer and Nadal, to name a few.
July 18th 2012 @ 9:21am
Kasey said | July 18th 2012 @ 9:21am | Report comment
Nothing will happen, they are footballers – nuff said.
July 18th 2012 @ 10:44am
Kel said | July 18th 2012 @ 10:44am | Report comment
I guess you’ve gone with guilty until proven innocent here huh?
July 18th 2012 @ 10:47am
Kasey said | July 18th 2012 @ 10:47am | Report comment
Seems to be about the same level of proof in the WSW statue cover up ‘story’
July 18th 2012 @ 9:38am
Winston said | July 18th 2012 @ 9:38am | Report comment
How boring that sports people can’t make smartarse comments any more. We need more Akers!!
July 18th 2012 @ 9:42am
Kasey said | July 18th 2012 @ 9:42am | Report comment
You prawn Winston,
think of the potential consequences of these words. How much of a funny smart arse are you going to feel like if this girl spirals into a depression and kills herself all because a couple of stupid AFL footy players weren’t intelligent enough to think through the consequences of their words?they allegedly called her fat. Think it can’t happen, google you suicide rates, it turns out sport isn’t the only metric our great country punches above its weight in : (
July 18th 2012 @ 9:54am
Kasey said | July 18th 2012 @ 9:54am | Report comment
sorry, that should read youth suicide rates not ‘ you suicide’ rates
July 18th 2012 @ 10:11am
Camshaft said | July 18th 2012 @ 10:11am | Report comment
I kind of agree with Winston on this one. Years ago, a mate of mine asked a famous Australian cricket captain to sign his bat. With a killer gleam, he told my mate to “piss off”. My mate didn’t go away crying, his mum didn’t write to the ACB and he didn’t commit suicide. He just put it down to one of those things, and got on with life.
Never have the words “toughen up princess” been more apt.
July 18th 2012 @ 10:27am
Kasey said | July 18th 2012 @ 10:27am | Report comment
There’s a hell of a lot of difference between being told no by a cranky sports person (we all need to learn to deal with rejection in life) and being told no, because of your physical appearance. I’m honestly shocked that some posters on here can’t see this, actually, given it’s the AFL where everything short of murder is something a decently abled footy player can get away with I really shouldn’t be surprised should I?
July 18th 2012 @ 10:31am
Apples said | July 18th 2012 @ 10:31am | Report comment
No, AFL players do get done for “attempted Murder” from time to time, so its a bit of an exaggeration to suggest “everything short of murder is something a decently abled footy player can get away”. I do agree they get let off for Break and Enter offences though.
July 18th 2012 @ 10:38am
Camshaft said | July 18th 2012 @ 10:38am | Report comment
Kasey, don’t know if you have ever seen Moneyball, but there is a scene where the baseball scouts are judging a player as having low self esteeem because his girlfriend is unattractive. Footballers don’t want to be associated with unattractive people. It’s not good for their image.
You might say it’s only a photo, but then that photo goes on the girls Facebook page and gets sent around everywhere. All of a sudden this player is associated with that girl. A “no fat chicks” policy might sound harsh, but I think you have to look at it from the players perspective.
July 18th 2012 @ 10:42am
Kasey said | July 18th 2012 @ 10:42am | Report comment
Have you ever been bulied for your appearance? If not then you can understand the completete mental damage it can cause. Teenage girls in general aren’t exactly known for being mentally strong enough to rise above the superficial nastiness of therse idiots. These sorts of events can follow one well into adulthood.
July 20th 2012 @ 10:10am
clipper said | July 20th 2012 @ 10:10am | Report comment
Have to agree with you Kasey – these guys should act as if a camera is on them the whole time, as it often ends up being like that.
The other side of the equation is that the girl will now have to deal with more negative feelings as it has been made public and may even read some of these comments, which won’t do her self esteem any good.
July 20th 2012 @ 11:05am
Kasey said | July 20th 2012 @ 11:05am | Report comment
clipper: Remember that old Police advert reminding drivers that every patrol car was now a booze bus? I would have thought that the AFLPA would have drummed it into their charges that every member of the public likely has a smart phone these days and thus every encounter with the public has the potential to be a good or a bad PR experience.
July 18th 2012 @ 10:44am
Brewski said | July 18th 2012 @ 10:44am | Report comment
This should get some bites !!. (Camshafts post).
July 18th 2012 @ 10:46am
Kasey said | July 18th 2012 @ 10:46am | Report comment
So only thin/ pretty people can have their photo taken with footy players now? Will the same aesthetics test apply to handing over money for a membership?
July 18th 2012 @ 10:51am
Kel said | July 18th 2012 @ 10:51am | Report comment
Pretty big call to say it’s true at this point. I’m a young woman, and a Saints supporter. I’ve taken my son to open training and the players are always polite, friendly and willing to pose for photo’s with absolutely anyone. In fact, sometimes they stay out there far longer than neccessary to make sure everyone leaves happy. I’m not saying that this didn’t happen, but I’m not a fan of how there appears to an assumption that this is absolute truth. At this point it’s vague, I’m not understanding why she is unable to identify who said it?
July 18th 2012 @ 11:13am
Matt F said | July 18th 2012 @ 11:13am | Report comment
Good point Kel. We shouldn’t assume that it’s true, just like we shouldn’t assume it’s false.
There’s no doubt that most players are more than happy to pose for photos, sign autographs etc within reason at least anyway. Also, just like with all off-field incidents, the vast majority of players don’t do anything wrong.
It sounds a bit odd that she doesn’t know who supposedly said it though? The only thing I can think of (if it did actually happen) is that the player whom she asked for a photo was a different player than the one who is supposed to have made the comments. e.g. His teammate was walking past and said the comment to another teammate as a joke not thinking that she would hear him, or something like that.
July 18th 2012 @ 11:15am
Camshaft said | July 18th 2012 @ 11:15am | Report comment
Kasey – you make a good point. I guess it is hypocritical to say that we will take your membership money but you can’t have a photo with us.
Doesn’t say how fat the girl was, has that been reported anywhere? Superfit footballers probably judge appearance a bit harsher than the rest of us. The player could have had a photo with the girl I suppose, as long as she was considered to not have a detrimental affect on his brand.
July 18th 2012 @ 10:36am
Matt F said | July 18th 2012 @ 10:36am | Report comment
July 18th 2012 @ 10:37am
Matt F said | July 18th 2012 @ 10:37am | Report comment
Camshaft – (for some reason I can’t directly reply to your post) There’s a fairly obvious difference between effectively telling someone to get lost and insulting their appearance.
July 18th 2012 @ 11:02am
Brian said | July 18th 2012 @ 11:02am | Report comment
Same thing happen to me as a kid was it also M Waugh?
July 18th 2012 @ 11:24am
Camshaft said | July 18th 2012 @ 11:24am | Report comment
Not W Waugh, it was Chappelli while playing district cricket for North Melbourne. My mate was warned by one of the other players as they were walking off the field that he was in a bad mood, so I suppose it wasn’t a total shock.
July 18th 2012 @ 11:42am
NeeDeep said | July 18th 2012 @ 11:42am | Report comment
Good old Chappelli – same thing happened to my brother at Gloucester Park, during the World Series days. He’d just been cleaned up by Andy Roberts for 2 and wasn’t in a very gracious mood!
July 18th 2012 @ 12:40pm
Camshaft said | July 18th 2012 @ 12:40pm | Report comment
Re: Chappelli, about a year after he told my mate to “piss off”, there was an article in a magazine where he said “I don’t know why kids are scared of me”. That gave us a laugh.
Anyway, the guy was a winner and that’s the most important thing. Different rules apply for elite sportsman. I’m comfortable with that.
July 18th 2012 @ 1:25pm
joshie93 said | July 18th 2012 @ 1:25pm | Report comment
He was aggressively told to leave. This girl was bullied and discriminated against based on looks.
July 18th 2012 @ 6:24pm
William Goat said | July 18th 2012 @ 6:24pm | Report comment
Fark me mate !! bullied & discriminated against !! even if they said it directly to her face, in the nastiest manner possible, she came up to them, they certainly did not ask her for a photo did they ?! attitudes like yours are the reason kids are fat to start with because no-one wants to tell little Alice that’s she becoming a bit pudgy & before you know it she’s obese before she’s out of her teens & haven’t we reached a point in this country where we are recognising the massive ( no pun intended) problems inherent in obesity ?!
The story should be that family & friends cared so little about her that she got that way, not the hideous crime that someone pointed out the freaking obvious !
July 18th 2012 @ 6:28pm
William Goat said | July 18th 2012 @ 6:28pm | Report comment
Bullied & discriminated against !? did the players approach her & taunt her ? believe it or not mate attitudes like yours are part of the problem. No-one wants to tell little Alice that she’s getting pudgy & before you know she’s obese before she’s out of her teens. The story here should be that her family & friends cared so little about her that they didn’t tell her sooner.
July 18th 2012 @ 6:10pm
William Goat said | July 18th 2012 @ 6:10pm | Report comment
She probably is fat & the only unfortunate thing about the situation would be that her parents didn’t tell her sooner & really helped her out. They are probably fat too & therefore it’s acceptable to them , giving her a jersey won’t stop the future heart attack.
July 19th 2012 @ 8:29am
Kasey said | July 19th 2012 @ 8:29am | Report comment
Okay, so these inconsiderate clods are a very poor ambassadors for mankind, their club and their sport, but I fail to see how anybody can use it to denigrate the entire St. Kilda FC? Each footy club in all codes has its fair share of arrogant twits. Whoever these arsehats are, their looks (athletic bodies) and skills will fade with the passage of time, then they will have to go back to living like normal people and if they carry on as they have in the real world, they’ll be in for a rude shock especially when they no longer have the entire AFL industry and fanboys like on here ready to make excuses for them (Oh the fat girl – its her fault for being a fatty! If she’d just had the grace to be a thin girl this would never have happened, oh puh-lease))
July 18th 2012 @ 10:35am
Brewski said | July 18th 2012 @ 10:35am | Report comment
I am incensed, i put it up there with rape, murder and brutal physical attacks, is there no end to this madness, how dare a young man think like this, let alone crack a smart arse joke in front of his mates, where’s the Police in all this, has an arrest been made yet ?.
I am fuming, these footballers are very different to most other people, no ordinary young man would ever think or say something like this to impress his mates.
This is not a slow news day, trumped up nothing article, this is indicative of all AFL footballers, i want action, …. Royal Commission perhaps ??.
July 18th 2012 @ 10:37am
Kel said | July 18th 2012 @ 10:37am | Report comment
I’m not sure it’s completely fair to blanket an entire football club here. Would it be hard to point out the said player from a team photo, if it was true?
July 18th 2012 @ 11:01am
Brian said | July 18th 2012 @ 11:01am | Report comment
Seems to continuously happen to St Kilda, bit like WCE in 07
July 18th 2012 @ 11:08am
Kel said | July 18th 2012 @ 11:08am | Report comment
I’d love you to expand Brian, how does it continuously happen to St Kilda? I hope you are not referring to the schoolgirl scandal which was proven to be based upon complete non truths?
July 18th 2012 @ 3:24pm
Brian said | July 18th 2012 @ 3:24pm | Report comment
Stephen Milne, Andrew Lovett, the pic of Riewoldt, this incident, there could be more but those come to mind.
July 18th 2012 @ 5:29pm
NeeDeep said | July 18th 2012 @ 5:29pm | Report comment
I love how Andrew Lovett gets referred to as a St. Kilda player!
He never even played a game for St. Kilda and when the whole story hit the fan, the club sent him packing. While it was in the news he was a St. Kilda player and as soon as it all went away and the case was dropped, he was back to being an ex “Bomber”.
It’s not that it “continously” happens to St. Kilda – it’s just that the media love to jump on a club they think they can get some mileage out of. How quickly do stories regarding Collingwood, or Carlton players die off in the media? Didak, Heath Shaw, Nick Maxwell and quiet a few others. What happened with the whole Dayne Beames thing after the GF last year? Fevola and Co., went up a gear after he left Carlton and became a Lion. Benny Cousins does a runner from a booze bus and everybody laughs it off as just pure hi-jinx by a great bloke!
Why is it everytime there is a story about free-agency, who’s pic is on the back page or prominent on the web-site – Brendon Goddards, off course! It’s like he’s the only bloke in the whole AFL competition that the concept applies to.
I think if the media got a little more even-handed, you would find a lot more news worthy stories happening at all the AFL clubs – not just a select one or two who seem to always be in the gun!
July 18th 2012 @ 10:56am
DanMan said | July 18th 2012 @ 10:56am | Report comment
Damn people are soft these days
July 18th 2012 @ 11:12am
NeeDeep said | July 18th 2012 @ 11:12am | Report comment
Just have to love how all the negative crap about St. Kilda always finds its way onto this site!
Now, if this was about the Collingwood Football Club, we’d be hearing how Daisy Thomas rode in on a white horse, dismounted in his suit of armour and showered this young lady with autographed Eddie Maguire photo’s and made her an instant life member of the Magpie army.
Nope – it’s about those wretched #$%@&%#’s from St. Kilda – quick, somebody get the rope and find me a tall tree and we’ll string the offender up, before sundown!
I however do agree, that twits who open their mouths should show some respect and have a little bit of common decency. Gee, who do they think they are – the next PM or something! You’re just an AFL player, not God’d gift to women! Show some respect to your fans!
July 18th 2012 @ 11:28am
Me too said | July 18th 2012 @ 11:28am | Report comment
Strange the article has left out (deliberately I’d suggest) the actual age of the ‘young girl’. Twenty one, and supposedly overheard the comments AFTER already getting a photo with the players.
If you want to deliberately malign a club you’d ignore the above. If you want to present an issue maturely for discussion you wouldn’t.
July 18th 2012 @ 1:21pm
joshie93 said | July 18th 2012 @ 1:21pm | Report comment
So 21 is old now? Also, I saw a few different sources quote different ages, therefore I thought it was best to leave it out. I went with what I knew were truths and not media beat up in order to avoid information that is misleading and untruthful.
July 18th 2012 @ 3:22pm
micka said | July 18th 2012 @ 3:22pm | Report comment
21 may not be old but it is certainly not a “young girl”. I pictured maybe a 12-13 year old from the story.
Young woman would have been much more appropriate, seeing as she has been able to drink and vote for 3 years now…
It sounded like open, direct abuse in the article as well. Not something she overheard afterwards….