Bonus points? Not in rugby league
By Josh_J, 19 Jul 2012 Josh_J is a Roar Rookie
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Before I start, I have a confession. I’m a traditionalist. I’m one of those dinosaur brains stuck in a young man’s body. I’m not a fan of change.
Whether it be the introduction of golden point or the amendments to the law involving the corner post, my mindset has always been not to fix what’s not broken.
Looking back, I feel I got it right with golden point. Just one of the 16 coaches supports the current system, and there is growing pressure on the newly formed commission to reintroduce the draw.
The corner post rule, ill admit I got wrong. We’ve seen some spectacular tries scored as a result of the rules allowing a player to touch the corner post and not be ruled out of play.
However, there’s one idea I know I’ll never support. It was suggested earlier this week that the NRL adopt Super Rugby’s bonus point system. For those who aren’t familiar with the points structure of ‘the game they play in heaven’, teams are awarded bonus points based on their performance.
Bonus points are awarded two ways, either by scoring four or more tries or by losing by less than seven.
While some may see some sense in it, I hope to put forward an argument to swing you over to my side.
The idea of this bonus point system coming into the NRL was put forward because the average tries per game has been steadily dropping over the past 10 years. In 2002, the average tries per game was at 8.54. After 19 rounds of the 2012 competition, that average has dropped to 7.1.
But is this necessarily a bad thing?
Rugby union is completely different to rugby league. With field goals and penalty goals valued at three points, the idea of the bonus point system was to encourage teams to go for the try rather than the easy shot at goal.
With the amount of penalties given in rugby and the value of a penalty goal, it’s too easy for the captain to point at the sticks and tell the ref, ‘we’ll take three’.
The best thing about watching your team win a game is knowing your opposition got nothing for it. Let’s use Monday’s unforgettable match between bitter rivals the Roosters and Rabbitohs as an example.
The Roosters lost the un-losable. Leading 22-12 with under two minutes to play, they somehow butchered what would have been a morale boosting win over their neighbours. The scenes after the game told the story.
Rabbitohs fans and players celebrated like they’d just won their first premiership since the early 70s, while Roosters players laid on the turf, mystified as to how they’d just let their season slip away.
For South Sydney fans, it wasn’t just a win, but a Roosters loss which made the occasion so unbelievably good.
Now stop there. Imagine if the bonus point system was in play. The Roosters would have walked away with two points. One for the four tries they scored and one for the close loss. Yes, they still would have been upset with losing, but the bonus points would have softened the blow.
It would make the result seem not as bad.
That can’t be good. The fabric of rugby league has always been if you lose you get nothing. This isn’t the under 6′s, we’re you get clapped off the field and given a few lollies for trying your best. It’s a game played by grown men, who shouldn’t be rewarded for coming close.
As for the four tries bonus point, here is an example as to why that would be a farce. In round 15 this year, the Cowboys hosted the Broncos in what was a very tough and entertaining game of footy. With under 20 minutes to play, scores were deadlocked at 0 apiece, before North Queensland scored two late converted tries to win a tremendous derby 12-0.
Brisbane would have received no bonus points, but were brave in defeat.
Now take last weeks Canberra versus Gold Coast game. The Raiders trailed 22-4 at half time and were booed off by their fans at half time. They trailed 38-10 late in the game before the Titans switched off, allowing Canberra to score three very late consolation tries. The Raiders ultimately lost 38-26.
Canberra were terrible and deserved nothing for their performance. They did however score five tries.
So let’s compare games. Two tries scored in an enthralling contest between two sides who gave it their all, against 13 tries scored between two sides outside the top eight, who at stages looked like they’d struggle stopping an under 12′s side from crossing the line.
The Queensland derby was a much better game, and that’s not just my dinosaur brain talking. Newspaper reports and the views of commentators have shared my sentiments.
So does Canberra really deserve a point for an insipid performance?
What about a fan watching a game between two sides he doesn’t support. Instead of hoping for a good hard fought contest like he does now, they’d have to instead hope for a low-scoring contest so neither team walks away with maximum points. Imagine that, watching a game and cheering on the defence.
Rugby league has gradually evolved over the course of history. Mandatory grand finals, limited tackle counts, an eight teams final system, the 40/20 rule, the list goes on. However, the difference in emotion between winning and losing is what makes rugby league as good as it is.
There is no room for bonus points in rugby league, and I’m sure most fans, diehard or not, would agree with me.
As for Roosters fans, you are best to wait a week before you decide.
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July 19th 2012 @ 5:26am
SandBox said | July 19th 2012 @ 5:26am | Report comment
very good article Josh, I just hope enough RU people read this. Everyone wants to encourage tries, but the bonus point system doesn’t seem to have made a big difference there, and a BP for coming close? Reminds me of Gaylord Fockers ribbon for 9th place
July 19th 2012 @ 1:50pm
p.Tah said | July 19th 2012 @ 1:50pm | Report comment
I disagree with that. Its a great innovation for RU. More tries are scored because of it. You can see the difference between the RU competitions. There are more tries scored in Super rugby and the Trinations where bonus poinst are offered compared to the June in bound tests where bonus points aren’t offered (think of the Wales vs. Wallabies test matches). In the June tests its just about winning and it doesn’t matter how those points are collected.
As discussed above RL doesn’t need a bonus point system for scoring tries. Players don’t need further encouragement, but a losing bonus point is something to consider. If a team is beaten 20 – 0. They receive nothing. Fair enough, but if they lose 20-18, they came pretty close to winning and a refs call could have robbed the losing team of victory. With a losing bonus point at least they came away with something.
July 19th 2012 @ 5:06pm
turbodewd said | July 19th 2012 @ 5:06pm | Report comment
Allocating pts for losing?! Cmon. You win or lose…it must be cut and dried. A win is a WIN is a WIN :^)
July 19th 2012 @ 6:58pm
p.Tah said | July 19th 2012 @ 6:58pm | Report comment
It’s stilll cut and dry, you get more points for winning, but anyway sounds like I’m in the minority here. Don’t look at it as a losing bonus point, look at it as points for coming a close second
…. But… Say your team needs one point in the last game of the season to qualify for the top eight. With 60 seconds to go, you’re 2 points ahead, 10m out from the oppositions line, you’re on the attack and you have them on the rack. On the 3rd tackle, you hit it up and the ball is stripped, the opposition run the length of the field and score. You appeal that two men were in the tackle when the strip occurs. It looks to everyone at the ground that it’s a no try. The video ref reviews it for an eternity and rules that the second player hadnt entered before the ball was dislodged. There are millimeters and nano seconds defining the point when the second playing entered the tackle. The TV commentators, the TV viewers and those at the ground were certain it wasn’t a try but the ref has seen it differently. You’ve lost, your season is over. You missed the finals by one measly point… I bet you’d wish you had a losing bonus point then.
July 19th 2012 @ 5:51am
steve b said | July 19th 2012 @ 5:51am | Report comment
Josh agree on this one ,,,if it ain;t broke don’t fix it..
July 19th 2012 @ 9:26am
jdubya said | July 19th 2012 @ 9:26am | Report comment
Bonus points are a joke. Lets not forget that Super Rugby is essentially an amateur competition.
July 19th 2012 @ 9:35am
Dogs Of War said | July 19th 2012 @ 9:35am | Report comment
Please don’t start a code war. Stupid comments like this is what brings in the trolls.
Bonus points have a time and place, if the NRL ever went to a conference type system, I think it would be essential to bring in such a thing as the better performing clubs would only get one chance against out of division rivals, and need to grab those extra points to ensure that if they are in a stronger division, they can still pick up a wild card spot.
July 19th 2012 @ 1:36pm
p.Tah said | July 19th 2012 @ 1:36pm | Report comment
“Lets not forget that Super Rugby is essentially an amateur competition.”
what do you mean jdubya? Is that in respect to the quality of the competition. It’s amateurish?
July 20th 2012 @ 7:26pm
Sircoolalot said | July 20th 2012 @ 7:26pm | Report comment
The way its run, the wages that most of the players are on are pretty amateurish.
As a Union supporter i can accept this view.
July 20th 2012 @ 8:50pm
p.Tah said | July 20th 2012 @ 8:50pm | Report comment
In Australia: $4.5m divided by 32 players?
July 19th 2012 @ 9:42am
tugboat said | July 19th 2012 @ 9:42am | Report comment
Bonus points has no place in pro sports
Its a ridiculous system the point for coming within 7 points oh dear
A team could score 4 trys against a rubbish team and three against a class team why do they deserve extra point in the easy win
The fact you can get 2 points in a game and still lose is insane
July 19th 2012 @ 9:45am
alblackfan said | July 19th 2012 @ 9:45am | Report comment
To each their own (although RL certainly didn’t mind burrowing the corner post rule from RU!!)
July 19th 2012 @ 9:53am
turbodewd said | July 19th 2012 @ 9:53am | Report comment
1. The drop in avg tries per game is probably due to less blow-outs – which is a good thing. The 50+ wallopings seems rarer, which is good.
2. Bonus pts systems dont increase the number of tries scored. Coaches coach to win, and they always want to score tries anyway.
3. 8 teams reach the playoffs, 2 reach the GF and 1 wins it…a bonus pts system doesnt change that at all!
4. bonus pts are a gimmick.
5. Will this generate more revenue? Nope! More ratings? Nope.
July 19th 2012 @ 9:54am
Brett McKay said | July 19th 2012 @ 9:54am | Report comment
Rather than bonus points, why not give the Golden Point loser a point? They’ve done well enough to force the game into extra time, yet when they go down, it’s the same result as being flogged by 30…
July 19th 2012 @ 9:56am
Dogs Of War said | July 19th 2012 @ 9:56am | Report comment
You then have to change the system a little cause I don’t think their should ever be more points available in one match than what is available normally. One point to the loser, and two to the winner can have a dramatic effect on the table, and will also change how teams may play a game when that one point for losing may get them into the finals.
July 19th 2012 @ 10:20am
Brett McKay said | July 19th 2012 @ 10:20am | Report comment
true Dogs, you would probably need to turn 2pts for the win into 4pts perhaps. It just seems a tad unfair that you haven’t actully lost at the 80 minute mark, yet when you do lose in extra time, it’s the same result as someone who gives up the ghost at halftime..
July 23rd 2012 @ 8:15pm
Jaredsbro said | July 23rd 2012 @ 8:15pm | Report comment
I guess this is the wrong part of the site to ask this but why did Australian Football go with four points for a win, seems quite superfluous to me
The system is good up until deciding who should win an extra time game. Golden point is just dumb. Soccer got rid of it and for a measly period of time had the best system ever devised: silver point. Of course golden try could work too. But the idea of instantaneous is worse than a draw
July 19th 2012 @ 10:14am
turbodewd said | July 19th 2012 @ 10:14am | Report comment
Lastly, rugby union needs a bonus pts system coz they do have a problem with scoring tries. There are far too many field goals and penalty goals in that sport.
RL has no such problemo!
July 19th 2012 @ 11:36am
NothingOfValueToAdd said | July 19th 2012 @ 11:36am | Report comment
I think the biggest problem with rugby league is far to many trys are scored from kicks. How about reducing the value of a try scored from a kick to from 4 to 3.
July 19th 2012 @ 5:07pm
turbodewd said | July 19th 2012 @ 5:07pm | Report comment
WHy is this a problem?! The aerial assault is a great aspect, to remove or discourage it would make play boring eventually.
And lots of these kicks are highly skillful, including the catching part.
July 19th 2012 @ 11:20pm
Paul Arandale said | July 19th 2012 @ 11:20pm | Report comment
Just an idea guys. Rugby League use to have 5 point and 3 point tries. Maybe they could revert back to that system awarding a 3 point try from a kick and 5 points through the hands. But then you would have to rule on how big or far the kick should be as a player doing a chip n chase should deserves more than a 3 point try.
But I agree with Josh. I don’t like Golden Point and don’t like bonus points. Next they will award shopper dockets and 4c off petrol for tries
July 19th 2012 @ 10:27am
League fan said | July 19th 2012 @ 10:27am | Report comment
The bonus point works well in union and I think would also work well in AFL because there are so many mismatches. It will never work in the NRL though because the competition is too tight and the last thing you want is a team scraping into the finals because they lost by less than 7 points.
Keep it as it is. The NRL has been amazing this year, why try to fix something that is not broken.
July 19th 2012 @ 11:59am
Renegade said | July 19th 2012 @ 11:59am | Report comment
The person throwing around the idea of a bonus points system should be shot….
July 19th 2012 @ 12:18pm
turbodewd said | July 19th 2012 @ 12:18pm | Report comment
Phil Rothfield, Daily Telegraph from a few days ago.
July 19th 2012 @ 4:36pm
Damn Straight said | July 19th 2012 @ 4:36pm | Report comment
Yeah, well he definitely needs to be shot. Such a senationalist w*nker. For efficiency, put Rebecca Wilson behind him and you could kill them both with one bullet. =)
July 19th 2012 @ 5:14pm
Damn Straight said | July 19th 2012 @ 5:14pm | Report comment
*sensationalist