The unsociable Hawks are back, and ready for damage
By Cameron Rose, 23 Jul 2012 Cameron Rose is a Roar Expert
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Ben Stratton of the Hawks and Travis Cloke of the Magpies in action during the AFL Round 17 match between the Collingwood Magpies and the Hawthorn Hawks at the MCG, Melbourne. (Slattery Images)
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Hawthorn made the most resounding statement of season 2012 with their 47-point demolition of Collingwood on Saturday, playing the most complete team game this season against a good side.
Sydney fans will argue for their defeat of West Coast in Perth, and if it was against an Eagles outfit not missing half of their best players, perhaps a stronger case could be made.
The most astounding aspect of the Hawthorn victory was the stats of the Pies best players – Swan with 49 disposals and two goals, Beams with 34 and four, Pendlebury had 34 and stuck 11 tackles, Sidebottom 29 and finished with a goal.
For Collingwood’s best players to have so much impact yet still find themselves completely outplayed speaks volumes for how good the Hawks really were.
And this was a weakened Hawthorn, a team missing its two best players in Buddy Franklin and Luke Hodge, as well as the important kick-in specialist Brent Guerra.
Often derided for being premiership favourites during the year despite not residing in the top four, they’ve well and truly earned the mantle now.
Skipper Hodge has only played two matches this year, but it will take a brave man to suggest the 2008 Norm Smith medallist won’t be having an impact come September. His on-field leadership credentials are unquestioned, as is his courage, and his players walk taller when he is among them. The lethal left boot that he possesses is an added bonus.
Buddy’s absence hasn’t been felt so far in the two matches he has missed through a hamstring injury. Seventeen goals against the Dogs in Round 16 was probably ‘unders’ for the Hawks against such a poor side, but 21 against the Pies was plenty good.
Jarryd Roughead and Jack Gunston provided the marking targets up forward, three goals apiece just reward for their work. Small-medium forwards Luke Bruest and Jordan Lewis kicked ten between them, and all four of these players have been dangerous around goal this year.
With Buddy’s return imminent and Cyril Rioli possibly the most dangerous and creative forward in the game, this is a front six that is going to present problems for any team, and contains elements of toughness and the mecurial, with marking and crumbing power in equal measure.
Sam Mitchell has had a solid season, and was brilliant on the weekend. If he doesn’t have the best hands and vision in the game when in the heat of a congested pack, then only Jobe Watson and Scott Pendlebury could be ahead of him. I won’t be taking sides.
Brad Sewell is having a memorable year, and I’m not just talking about Francesca Cumani. His work on the field has him being mentioned in All-Australian conversations, and his efforts off it have him the envy of many a man. Sewell’s importance in the engine-room alongside Mitchell at Hawthorn can’t be understated.
Grant Birchall and Matthew Suckling are the half-back specialists, setting up much run and carry from the backline, often sharing the ball with each other in space. Birchall will mainly go short, or longer if he spies a suitable open target, while Suckling prefers length wherever possible, and isn’t scared of taking the harder option. Both penetrate with precision.
Shaun Burgoyne is ever a calm presence inside defensive fifty, while the aforementioned Guerra (due back from suspension next week) provides the hardness. Like most in the Hawks team, both are cool decision-makers and classy by foot.
Brendan Whitecross is in his fourth season with 65 games under his belt, but one gets the feeling he could walk down a Melbourne city street at lunchtime and not get bothered for an autograph. He’s another that loves finding space to be an effective link man, leading all comers at the club for marks taken, and averaging the fifth most disposals per game.
Add into rotations the likes of Liam Shiels, Isaac Smith, Clinton Young and Paul Puopolo, all very good footballers in their own right, and we see a team batting deep.
Their key defensive posts have long been seen as a weakness, but it’s a hard position to maintain when the team is ranked second for least points conceded.
Josh Gibson is confident against any opponent and rarely loses a one-on-one contest these days, while the much maligned Ryan Shoenmakers is ever improving, and ate Travis Cloke for lunch on Saturday, keeping the power forward to only two marks. Ben Stratton and Stephen Gilham are handy reserves in this area as well.
But the biggest sign that Hawthorn are ready to finally deliver on the promise of 2008 is the return of the ‘unsociable Hawks’.
There was barely a stoppage when a player in the brown and gold wasn’t pushing an opponent in the chest, giving them a sharp forearm to the back or getting in their face with a mouthful of abuse when mistakes were made or a short step was taken.
Hell, even Alastair Clarkson got in on the act, ramming his fist through the coaches box wall on the way down to the quarter time huddle, leaving a trail of debris – and this with his team 16 points up and in control!
Some can see engaging in such acts as a type of weakness, and when coming from a poor team it can reek of desperation and pretence to a toughness that doesn’t exist.
But when you’ve won 10 out of the last 11 games, are sitting third on the ladder with a league-high percentage of 156, and have just carved open the best side of the last two and a half years with a fierce attack on the man and ball, then these ‘unsociable’ acts simply create a hostile, menacing environment in which opponents can easily become overwhelmed.
So the Hawks are steaming towards the finals, and looking to deal in payback on the way. The Pies have been checked off, but Geelong are owed for years of torment, and Sydney humbled them down on their Launceston patch earlier in the year.
Both will be confronted in the run to September by a rampaging, ruthless Hawthorn outfit intent on the ultimate success. And they’re not looking to make friends while doing it.
Cameron Rose is a born and bred Melbournian, raised on a regime of AFL, cricket and horse racing. He likes people who agree with him but loves those that don't, for in his mind there is nothing better than a roaring debate. He tweets from @camtherose.
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July 23rd 2012 @ 7:46am
D.Large said | July 23rd 2012 @ 7:46am | Report comment
It was an unbelievably comprehensive won over the Pies, no question it will take a team playing at their best to roll them. Buddy will be some icing on this cake. Wouldn’t be too concerned if I was a Pies man, I’ve always believed even a good team will have 2 flat spots throughout the year and this last 3 week period has been theirs. I’d back the Pies to go unbeaten from here.
Normally this author lamasts the Swans at least twice in any article he writes, but he only got 1 in this week.
July 23rd 2012 @ 1:58pm
Redb said | July 23rd 2012 @ 1:58pm | Report comment
I think the Swans are off the pace on top 2, despite ladder position, however I’m willing to reserve my judgement until after they play Collingwood.
July 23rd 2012 @ 2:11pm
Macca said | July 23rd 2012 @ 2:11pm | Report comment
The collingwood has gone in the last 3 weeks I am not sure beating them is a great sign of form.
July 23rd 2012 @ 8:18am
Rob said | July 23rd 2012 @ 8:18am | Report comment
Gee they were impressive, I was keen on the Pies but it qas quickly apparent that Hawthorn were at another level. So impressive, certainly hasn’t been underrated in this article, but gee I think Mitchell still is in many circles.
July 23rd 2012 @ 9:18am
Macca said | July 23rd 2012 @ 9:18am | Report comment
I thnk teams should pay a lot of attention to the way Carlton and the Hawks have beaten Collingwood in the past couple of weeks. Force their backline to be accountable, Duigan, Lewis & Breust all kicking mulitple goals, don’t worry about tagging swan too much, just don’t let him free in the forward 50m, shut down the likes of Thomas, Sidebottom, Beams and Pendlebury if possible and push Cloke high because Dawes is no good.
July 23rd 2012 @ 9:31am
Hawks9108 said | July 23rd 2012 @ 9:31am | Report comment
Macca the weekend proved that the Pies midfield can win as much of the ball as they want…Swan, Beams and Pendlebury gathered a huge tally of possessions but at the end of the day possessions mean jack….possessions dont win games and goals do.
Difference was Hawthorn had a functional forward line (that did revolve around keeping the pies backmen in one on one contest)but the pies did not.
On his performances over the last few weeks I would say Clokes value is dropping immensley.
July 23rd 2012 @ 9:48am
Matt F said | July 23rd 2012 @ 9:48am | Report comment
I think what it showed is that the Pies are carrying a lot of passengers in their side right now. They were far too reliant on a few players and many of them simply didn’t do anything meaningful on Saturday.
The reason why teams like the Crows, Swans and Hawks are flying at the moment is that they’re all getting good contributions from players 1-22.
The Hawks do actually, at times, look a better overall side without Buddy as strange as that sounds. That’s not meant to denigrate Buddy in any way but they can be a bit too “Buddy-concious” at times but when he’s out they’re forced to use their other options and we see a very even spread of contributors. They need other players to step up and cover his absence and they’ve done that really well. That being said, it goes without saying that he’ll be a significant asset in the high-intensity finals series.
I agree on Cloke. It’s hard to imagine that freo’s massive offer is still on the table right now. If it hasn’t been withdrawn completely it surely must be reduced.
July 23rd 2012 @ 9:52am
Hawks9108 said | July 23rd 2012 @ 9:52am | Report comment
i actually agree with the comment Matt
I was quite comfortable that Buddy wasn’t playing against teh pies and his out meant that we were unpredictable, the pies defence dont handle that that well. They like to zone off and be 3rd man up in a contest. On the weekend they couldn’t do that, will be very intersting if we play them again as to how we play, if we are too Buddy conscious we are a bigger chance to be beaten.
Cloke’s value would have to be decreasing by the day….
July 23rd 2012 @ 9:57am
Macca said | July 23rd 2012 @ 9:57am | Report comment
While I would never deliberately leave him out, I see your point. Gunston is showing why you chased him so hard.
July 23rd 2012 @ 10:51am
Bayman said | July 23rd 2012 @ 10:51am | Report comment
Macca,
Yes, as a Crows man, I’m trying not to think how they might be going with Bock, Davis and Gunston still available. Would those guys have left if Sanderson was coach two years ago? We will never know (except Sando wouldn’t have been available two years ago!)
July 23rd 2012 @ 9:58am
Brian said | July 23rd 2012 @ 9:58am | Report comment
Whilst I had the same thought its not as though Buddy is a Lockett type full forward. He has a great engine and agility and can even play midfield. Surely it must be possible to play with that unpredictable style with Buddy there to add to our natural talent levels.
July 23rd 2012 @ 10:10am
Hawks9108 said | July 23rd 2012 @ 10:10am | Report comment
Very true Brian, I often wonder why Clarkson doesn’t throw him up the ground more, especially when he is struggling…rarely happens
July 23rd 2012 @ 10:14am
Macca said | July 23rd 2012 @ 10:14am | Report comment
Hey Hawks, looks like we are right about the bombers! How many top 8 sides have they beaten now?
July 23rd 2012 @ 10:26am
Hawks9108 said | July 23rd 2012 @ 10:26am | Report comment
haha…look it appears that we were right in our thinking there Macca….geez it continually amazes me the that the so called experts always talk up sides without looking at the facts of that specific side.
The Bombers are being shown up for what they are, a good middle of the road side.
Based on the ladder today it would appear that they beat a depleted West Coast (as is everyone now) and North
July 23rd 2012 @ 1:04pm
hawker said | July 23rd 2012 @ 1:04pm | Report comment
he was playing up the ground more earlier this year, it didn’t work.
July 23rd 2012 @ 10:12am
Matt F said | July 23rd 2012 @ 10:12am | Report comment
There’s no doubt that Buddy improves the team on talent. I think it’s more the mentality of his teammates that’s the key. When Buddy is playing his teammates will almost always look to him as the first option and sometimes go to him when there are better options available. When he’s not there they don’t have that “easy-out” of kicking it to Buddy so they actually look for the best option rather than just Buddy (though he normally is the best option!) Whilst he is a very different style of player to Lockett he does have that similar aura among his teammates which makes them seek him out. There’s no doubt that they can use play Buddy and keep their unpredictability but it depends on his teammates and their state of mind.
It’s the nature of most teams with a super star forward. As a Swans fan I remember how we, justifiably most times, did the same with Plugger. I remember in the ’96 GF when Kelly was within range of goal and instead elected to chip to Plugger. The option was never really on and the ball dropped short. The Roos then quickly picked up the loose ball and kicked a goal up the other end, what should have been a 4 goal lead became a 2 goal lead and the Roos ran away with it from there.
Having said all that though, we all know how important a key forward is in the finals when the pressure is immense and sometimes bombing it long into the forward 50 is nescessary. Their value vastly increases in September and Buddy’s the best out there.
July 23rd 2012 @ 10:17am
Macca said | July 23rd 2012 @ 10:17am | Report comment
Matt F – You are right, his sheer presence draws the ball.
July 23rd 2012 @ 10:56am
Bayman said | July 23rd 2012 @ 10:56am | Report comment
MattF,
You’re right – that pass from Kelly to Lockett turned out to be a critical turning point of that game. It highlights though the obvious truth which has not changed since footy began – if you kick short you had better hit your target.
Nothing annoys me more than a short pass in the backline – actually, anywhere – which misses the target (handballs included). Turnover, goal.
July 23rd 2012 @ 11:12am
Hawks9108 said | July 23rd 2012 @ 11:12am | Report comment
Doesn’t the wall at the MCG know about a short pass missing its target!!!
July 23rd 2012 @ 9:43am
DanMan said | July 23rd 2012 @ 9:43am | Report comment
Yet another team is labelled as premiership favourites . . .
July 23rd 2012 @ 9:46am
Macca said | July 23rd 2012 @ 9:46am | Report comment
Yeah it must mean they are about to take a massive dive.
Sydney must be so happy they haven’t been saddled with it yet.
July 23rd 2012 @ 9:51am
Matt F said | July 23rd 2012 @ 9:51am | Report comment
Absolutely we are. I know that some Swans fans get a bit annoyed at being written off almost every single season but I always think it’s much better to be underrated than overrated.
That being said, we’ve made the back page of the paper in Sydney the past two Monday’s (the Telegraph as well if you’d believe it) so it seems the Sydney media is jumping aboard, or creating, the bandwagon very quickly
July 23rd 2012 @ 1:13pm
Mango Jack said | July 23rd 2012 @ 1:13pm | Report comment
Don’t worry, Matt, the Olympics start this week, so that will push the swans off the back page. The Tele editors (or is it their readers?) have the attention span of a goldfish.
July 23rd 2012 @ 1:55pm
Matt F said | July 23rd 2012 @ 1:55pm | Report comment
Probably both
July 23rd 2012 @ 10:31am
Dingo said | July 23rd 2012 @ 10:31am | Report comment
+1
July 23rd 2012 @ 9:55am
Brian said | July 23rd 2012 @ 9:55am | Report comment
Great decision from the coach to start Rioli in midfield he can’t play there all day but at crucial bounces he can add a lot.
Best win we’ve had in awhile. I will say Hodge is far from elite the last 18 months but his leadership can still add come September. Buddy of course is a massive in to return. More importantly its the first time since 08 we’ve had (so far) a near full squad to pick from.
It will be interesting to see if they try and bring Bailey back or if they will stick with Hale. I don’t think Ellis or Bateman will come back, main thing is to get Hodge & Buddy back and stay injury free so there is a settled side come Finals.
Finally Adelaide soft draw means they will finish top 2. To dislodge Sydney we will need to beat them at the SCG in Round 22 so if we are to get to the GF we’ll need a big interstate win. Same now goes for Collingwood, so still going to be very tough this year.
July 23rd 2012 @ 10:27am
Matt F said | July 23rd 2012 @ 10:27am | Report comment
Yeah you’d think that Adelaide are a lock for the Top 2 given their run home. The Swans/Hawks match is looking like it could very well decide the other spot. It’s also on track to be Jude Bolton’s 300th game as well, as if it needed to be any bigger
July 23rd 2012 @ 10:35am
Hawks9108 said | July 23rd 2012 @ 10:35am | Report comment
That will be a huge game no doubt, it may depend on the other ladder positions as to how hard the respective teams will play??
Swans just keep winning but theyare not given the respect that the lesser sides are demanding…I wonder why that is?? I did hear on radio yesterday that one commentator kept saying that the swans fade outs each week are a concern?? Do you beleive that Matt??
July 23rd 2012 @ 11:09am
Matt F said | July 23rd 2012 @ 11:09am | Report comment
I think that both teams will be going quite hard in that game to be honest. I can’t see either team losing too many games before then (at absolute worst they’d still both win at least 2 of their next 4) so they’ll both be very close to each other on the ladder. It could well be that we play each other in week 1 of the finals and that game could decide home ground advantage, and would be a big morale booster so close to the finals.
Do you mean 4th quarter fade outs or just a general fade out during the game?
If it’s 4th quarter fade outs then it’s not a major concern to be honest as it doesn’t actually happen all that often. It was a few weeks ago (Essendon and Geelong) but it seems to have reversed itself now. If anything it’s now our first 10-20 minutes which are the problem. We conceded the first 3 goals to the Lions (actually we might have kicked one but still a slow start.) and were 20-0 down against the Eagles and again conceded the first 3 goals to the Saints. We were also outclassed early against the Hawks before storming home though that is going back a fair way.
We do seem to have a bad period in most games though. It can be anything from 10 minutes to a quarter or so which is a bit concerning though I guess most teams have that most weeks at some point. We didn’t play that well yesterday but we still won which certainly isn’t a bad thing. We were due for a down game at some point so hopefully that’s a bit of a wake up call not to get complacent. With Gold Coast and a judd-less carlton in the next two weeks we could potentially go into the Collingwood game on the back of a 9 match winning streak, though hopefully the players aren’t looking that far ahead.
On another note, it does look like goal kicking will be very difficult at the SCG with the grandstand now completely demolished. It could have just been one of thsoe innacurate games but goal kicking did look very difficult yesterday and it was the first game with the old Noble stand completely torn down.
July 23rd 2012 @ 1:43pm
Brian said | July 23rd 2012 @ 1:43pm | Report comment
Is it right to assume that any Swans home finals will be at ANZ Stadium
July 23rd 2012 @ 1:55pm
Matt F said | July 23rd 2012 @ 1:55pm | Report comment
Yes
July 23rd 2012 @ 10:01am
Nathan of Perth said | July 23rd 2012 @ 10:01am | Report comment
Hilariously they will adopt the anti-social play style AND complain about their free kick counts.
July 23rd 2012 @ 10:09am
Hawks9108 said | July 23rd 2012 @ 10:09am | Report comment
what are you on about Nathan??
July 23rd 2012 @ 10:54am
tonysalerno said | July 23rd 2012 @ 10:54am | Report comment
The Hawks are beginning to rise to the occasion heading into the finals. Without Buddy they put on an impressive display against a serious title contender in Collingwood. Look out the Swans and Crows.
July 23rd 2012 @ 11:12am
Bayman said | July 23rd 2012 @ 11:12am | Report comment
As a Crows man I’m more than happy with the way the team is playing this year. One title in the bag (admittedly, a bit Mickey Mouse but all you can do is win them) and still in the running for the big one.
Having said that I’ve been convinced since day one – or maybe day four or five – that the two best teams are Hawthorn and Collingwood and I’m still of that opinion. The real surprise, apart from Adelaide, has been Sydney. I’m astounded they’re on top but over the last decade or so I’ve been full of admiration for Sydney’s sheer effort. Most sides cop a hammering occasionally, some frequently, but Sydney very rarely. You can always rely on the Swans to provide an effort – even when it seems the other team has a lot more ability.
I doubt any team has the record of turning “rejects” (and I use the term advisedly) into good players like the Swans. Imagine Hawthorn with Josh Kennedy now. As a Sydneysider I must say I’m proud of the Swans and what they have been able to achieve for years. A perfect result for me – and a perfect nightmare – would be a Swans/Crows grand final.
There is, however, the little matter of Hawthorn and Collingwood. Neither the Crows nor the Swans seem to be able to beat Collingwood. They do seem to have better results against Hawthorn but, I believe, Hawthorn at their best is better than Collingwood at its best.
It is going to be fascinating from here. At the beginning of the year I picked Hawthorn to be premiers. I haven’t, so far, had cause to change my mind – but they haven’t won it yet.