Genia praises new All Blacks halfback
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Australia halfback Will Genia has paid New Zealand counterpart Aaron Smith a huge compliment, declaring he has added a new dimension to rugby’s world champion team.
The 22-year-old Highlanders star made his international debut in June, starting in all three All Blacks’ wins over Ireland.
He could lineup directly against Genia in the back-to-back Tests between the Wallabies and the All Blacks in the opening two rounds of the inaugural Rugby Championship next month.
“They (New Zealand) have been the best in the world for so long for a number of reasons,” said Genia, on Thursday after he won the Australian Super Rugby player of the year award.
“Having watched their series against Ireland, I really like the way Aaron Smith plays.
“I think he adds a new dimension to their play because he gets to the breakdowns quickly.
“He’s got a great pass and gives then that extra speed in attack, which they probably don’t need but they have the luxury of now.
“They will pick up where they have left off, as they always do.
“They will be very tough and it will be a big ask to get on top of them but you wouldn’t have it any other way.”
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July 27th 2012 @ 6:15am
mania said | July 27th 2012 @ 6:15am | Report comment
yeah genia’s got it right. cant wait till kerr-barlow makes his debut later this season i hope. then next year wait till you see TJPerenara in the AB’s. NZ doesnt have a shortage of halfbacks.
July 27th 2012 @ 9:37am
Justin2 said | July 27th 2012 @ 9:37am | Report comment
KB – has a stack of flair, needs to work more on his fundamentals of clearing the ball quickly and accurately. His clearance and habit of taking steps is far behind the other two you mentioned.
July 27th 2012 @ 9:59am
mania said | July 27th 2012 @ 9:59am | Report comment
i’d like to see KB behind an AB’s pack. agree with u Justin2 bout KB taking steps before passing but ths is a running HB’s tactic. if your like aaronSmith then yeah u clear it right away but if your like KB and piri then you want to survey your options first and decide on the fly whether your going to link with your backs or pick out a back thats running a line into a gap.
sure kb doesnt clear as cleanly or quickly as aSmith (mind u no one does) but he has a lot to offer in his general reading of the game and thinking on the fly.
July 27th 2012 @ 1:08pm
Kuruki said | July 27th 2012 @ 1:08pm | Report comment
KB can clear the ball quickly when he wants. He has done it plenty of times for the Chiefs this year. He is a real threat ball in hand with his strong running, will make a great partner for Smith or Perenara.
July 27th 2012 @ 6:52am
Quade said | July 27th 2012 @ 6:52am | Report comment
Neither does Australia…bring back Gregon…
July 27th 2012 @ 9:27am
WQ said | July 27th 2012 @ 9:27am | Report comment
There is no doubt the extra speed from around the ruck will add a new dimension to the All Black attack, they have a half back that is very similar to Genia in that regard.
The All Blacks for some time however have played a bigger more robust scrum half whom almost acted as another loose forward. This option has been very handy in the Tri-Nations format particularly against the big South African Teams. Be interesting to see how they adapt their play to suit a faster less rugged scrum half.
July 27th 2012 @ 12:11pm
Riccardo said | July 27th 2012 @ 12:11pm | Report comment
” The All Blacks for some time however have played a bigger more robust scrum half whom almost acted as another loose forward”
Have you watched much of TJ Perenara for the Canes WQ? He fits that mould and then some. Barnstorming on the run and an aggressive defender. He will be a great All Black. Imagine him relieving Aaron Smith as an impact player about 50/60 minutes in.
July 27th 2012 @ 12:13pm
mania said | July 27th 2012 @ 12:13pm | Report comment
yeah Riccardo agree big time. for me only kerr-barlow comes close to the kind of defense that perenara does, for halfbax. perenara smashes guys much bigger than himself as well as having an awesome running game.
we blessed with 9′s at the moment.
July 27th 2012 @ 12:44pm
WQ said | July 27th 2012 @ 12:44pm | Report comment
Agreed Riccardo, it is an embarrassment of riches for the All Blacks at scrum half. I quite like TJ Perenara and thought he may have got a go in front of Aaron Smith. Hanson was possibly looking to change the way they attack and went with Smith. They both are fantastic options and will have Ker-Barlow breathing down their necks all the way.
July 27th 2012 @ 12:53pm
mania said | July 27th 2012 @ 12:53pm | Report comment
hansen said that perenara is ready to be an AB but he’s too young and there’s plenty of time for him to play for the AB’s. i’d like to see KB get a go at playing behind an AB’s pack, and real quick considering he’s eligible to play for aus
July 27th 2012 @ 12:58pm
Winston said | July 27th 2012 @ 12:58pm | Report comment
Tj is the future
July 27th 2012 @ 1:12pm
Kuruki said | July 27th 2012 @ 1:12pm | Report comment
IMO Kerr-Barlow is not fighting for a spot, it’s Perenara and Smith who will be competing for the one spot and Kerr-Barlow gets the other.
He is the perfect impact halfback and a very strong tackler. TJ Perenara won’t be rushed in because he still needs to work on his pass. Smith and KB will be the All Blacks 1 and 2 by the end of the year.
July 27th 2012 @ 1:17pm
Darwin Stubbie said | July 27th 2012 @ 1:17pm | Report comment
Love the way everyone seems happy to pass over Smith so quickly …. He’s hardly going to just step aside and as we’ve seen from history once your in it isn’t easy to dislodge someone from the AB set up … KB and Perenara are in a fight to dislodge Weepu
July 27th 2012 @ 1:53pm
Riccardo said | July 27th 2012 @ 1:53pm | Report comment
Not sure that’s the tenor DS.
For me anyway, he remains the incumbent and starting choice for his pass alone. That quick service at Test level is irreplaceable. As another poster noted he is fast to the ruck or maul as well.
“KB and Perenara are in a fight to dislodge Weepu”. There’s some truth to this and Kuruki’s assessment that it will initially be KB given Perenara’s injury and the fact he needs to continue to develop his passing game also has some gravitas.
Perenara will get his shot though; he’s too good not to…
July 27th 2012 @ 9:39am
Team Taniwha said | July 27th 2012 @ 9:39am | Report comment
What’s peoples thoughts about picking SBW for first 2 matches. Given injuries to SMith and Kahui, I say pick him. Player development can come in the end of year tour and the years ahead, games against Australia and South Africa aren’t for development It’s all about winning.
July 27th 2012 @ 9:54am
mania said | July 27th 2012 @ 9:54am | Report comment
nah give it to tamatiEllison. he’s got the goods and is very similar in smith in that he’s a thinker and doesnt need to rely in a power runner game.
SBW and Nonu are both power runners. law of nature states “diversity ensures survival.”
July 27th 2012 @ 10:02am
Team taniwha said | July 27th 2012 @ 10:02am | Report comment
Ellison has had a great year at the highlanders, no doubt. He has now ever little test experience, 2 matches and these next two will be in absolute cauldrons. Having both in the 22, I can’t see how it is not a win win. Than for later tests in the championship, Smith will be back and maybe look to blood Crotty or Fruen depending how things have panned out.
July 27th 2012 @ 10:05am
mania said | July 27th 2012 @ 10:05am | Report comment
more importantly taniwha, tamati performed outstanding vs the saffa sides. fruean isnt ready yet. fruean cant even nail down his spot in the saders. cortty would be a better replacement for conrad
July 27th 2012 @ 10:57am
Brett McKay said | July 27th 2012 @ 10:57am | Report comment
Mania, Crotty at 12, Nonu to 13? Could do a lot worse, in my humble Australian opinion…
July 27th 2012 @ 11:01am
mania said | July 27th 2012 @ 11:01am | Report comment
brett as good as crotty is i rate tamati ellison better (i am a canes supporter so i could be a little biast here), but your right in that either would serve well. note tamati has test experience and is already in the AB’s environment
i’m a fan of having my power player at 13 but nonu for the past 10 years has proven me wrong and has been outstanding at 12. so i’d go 12-nonu, 13-ellison
July 27th 2012 @ 11:42am
Nick Cross said | July 27th 2012 @ 11:42am | Report comment
I’m Cantab, I’d have Ellison in a flash. He’s v underrated, strong in contact and excellent defender. Passing isn’t as good as Smith.
July 27th 2012 @ 12:17pm
Riccardo said | July 27th 2012 @ 12:17pm | Report comment
What about the other Smith fellas as in Ben?
July 27th 2012 @ 12:19pm
mania said | July 27th 2012 @ 12:19pm | Report comment
i see benSmith as a back 3 specialist. he’d do well in a pinch but tamati has done time in the centres and knows the positional aspects of 12 & 13
July 27th 2012 @ 1:18pm
Kuruki said | July 27th 2012 @ 1:18pm | Report comment
Nonu 12 Ellison 13 that will be the number one pick for Hansen.
12 Carter 13 Nonu/Ellison will be second.
I doubt we will see Fruean get a call at any stage with Ben Smith also able to play 12 and Nonu and Ellison already there to cover center till Smith gets back.
July 27th 2012 @ 12:16pm
Darwin Stubbie said | July 27th 2012 @ 12:16pm | Report comment
Ben Smith would be the other option after Ellison – and personally I’d bring the blues kid Saili in before Fruen … But that would be more an EOY thing anyway … The positive thing is whoever it is will only be against Horne and McCabe – hardly Mortlock / Giteau in their prime …. And seeing Deans seems to be keen on continuing down the one off plodding runner and no risk policy he ushered for the W/cup with Barnes as his mainstay – then there shouldn’t be too much of a risk with any of those 3 options …
July 27th 2012 @ 10:40am
WQ said | July 27th 2012 @ 10:40am | Report comment
100% agree Team Taniwha, get two wins out of the first two games and then introduce a new player.
Besides all that, why would the NZRU not want to get the absolute last cent of value out of SBW, after all they have paid for it!
July 27th 2012 @ 9:58am
kingplaymaker said | July 27th 2012 @ 9:58am | Report comment
It depends sadly on whether they want to win the matches or retain some respectability in New Zealand rugby.
July 27th 2012 @ 10:03am
mania said | July 27th 2012 @ 10:03am | Report comment
puh lease KPM – SBW is one person. he doesnt dictate whether the AB’s win or lose. its about the team effort, not one cog.
SBW’s made his decision and unfortunately that means he’s ineligible for the AB’s.
i know what your reaction is going to be but i’ll say it anyways. SBW is not a like for like swap for conrad. what conrad does on the field SBW cant replicate and what we need is a thinking cente that cleans up all the holes in the back line and a good reader of the game. as good as SBW is he’s a power runner and not a thinker.
July 27th 2012 @ 10:06am
Team taniwha said | July 27th 2012 @ 10:06am | Report comment
Well he is eligible, Tew said as much yesterday. Current NZRFU have been pretty good at bending things to fit their needs, just look at McAllister. Contractually, SBW finishes at end of super 15, but apparently he has already been should tapped to ask if he would make himself available.
July 27th 2012 @ 10:14am
mania said | July 27th 2012 @ 10:14am | Report comment
yeah taniwha to the letter of the law he’s eligible, but the spirit of the law based on past precedents he’s not. and tbh as good as he is AB’s arent that desperate to unquivocally say that they need him. if he’s gonna go play NRL then AB’s need to get used to not having him around
July 27th 2012 @ 10:14am
kingplaymaker said | July 27th 2012 @ 10:14am | Report comment
mania that’s not what I meant exactly: I wasn’t saying that he dictates whether they win or lose.
What I meant was that the decision to choose him would be prioritising winning matches over the dignity of the All Blacks, and that the decision not to choose him would be prioritising the dignity of the All Blacks over winning matches.
July 27th 2012 @ 10:19am
mania said | July 27th 2012 @ 10:19am | Report comment
sorry KPM, still sounds like your saying that they need him to win, but i get your gist. hopefully the priority is both.
July 27th 2012 @ 10:46am
WQ said | July 27th 2012 @ 10:46am | Report comment
BS!
If he is eligible then pick him. I have never heard such dribble in all my life, since when did you give a brass razoo about the “dignity of the All Blacks” KPM?
Besides Hanson was telling all and sundry that he new SBW’s decision prior to the series against the Irish and he still picked him then.
To KPM and every other SBW knocker out there, get over it!
July 27th 2012 @ 1:07pm
Winston said | July 27th 2012 @ 1:07pm | Report comment
I’d like to see SBW picked. He is by far the best 12 available and I’d love to see how he goes up against high quality opposition. Might be a good reminder to him of what he’ll be missing when he starts swimming in those small ponds.
July 27th 2012 @ 11:48am
Sam Taulelei said | July 27th 2012 @ 11:48am | Report comment
KPM
The All Blacks priority has always been about winning games but they’re also not above doing things to suit them when the circumstances demand it as they have demonstrated previous form in bending rules and conventions.
In 1993 Mike Brewer was selected as a reserve ahead of Liam Barry for the All Blacks on their end of year tour when they suffered loose forward injuries. Brewer wasn’t touring with the team, he was only there in his role with Coca Cola who were one of the All Blacks sponsors. Barry was devastated and the public were outraged by Mains bringing in someone outside of the touring squad when they had a fully fit player available. Mains excuse was that he didn’t believe Barry was physically ready to compete against the bigger UK loose forwards.
In 1997 Zinzan Brooke announced his retirement and departure for Harlequins ahead of their end of year tour. While nobody begrudged him from touring as a fitting send off, there were many who questioned the wisdom of not picking a developing player ahead of him as there was no immediate replacement for Brooke and his domestic form was not as strong as in previous seasons.
In 2009 the NZRU exercised their discretion in allowing Luke McAlister to be named as a replacement for the injured Richard Kahui when he hadn’t played a local game on his return from Sale which was against NZRU eligibility rules.
Technically SBW is an incumbent All Black and available for selection until he starts his new contract in Japan at the end of August.
July 27th 2012 @ 1:48pm
Jutsie said | July 27th 2012 @ 1:48pm | Report comment
While I get that rules are sometimes meant to be bent/broken in the aim of winning I dont see SBW as having the runs on the board to receive the special treatment of a Zinzan/mccalister/carter etc.
And is he really that far ahead of other NZ centres? I dont think its panic stations yet, sure smith is a big loss but at least the AB’s get to test their depth when they are reigning bledisloe/RWC champions.
July 27th 2012 @ 2:40pm
Team taniwha said | July 27th 2012 @ 2:40pm | Report comment
The first two games aren’t ones to take chances on IMO, they are must win for the Bledisloe and the Championship.
Put aside personal feelings about SBW and I know he is a polarising figure and think of what is best for the AB’s chances of winnng and I think it is a no brainer to include him in the 22.
July 27th 2012 @ 2:49pm
Jutsie said | July 27th 2012 @ 2:49pm | Report comment
TT I dont have any personal issue with SBW I just dont think he is that far ahead of the competition for them to break protocol. He is yet to prove himself at test level against any tough opposition so playing him would be as risky as playing anyother untried centre combo.
Maybe like u say the in the 22 but one thing u guys have over anyother team is depth and its not like the aus centre combo is their greatest strength.
July 27th 2012 @ 1:22pm
Kuruki said | July 27th 2012 @ 1:22pm | Report comment
I didn’t realise SBW was available. if that’s the case then im sure we will see him paired with Nonu for the first two matches. Now we can see once and for all how good Pat McCabe is a tackling.
July 27th 2012 @ 1:38pm
CraigB said | July 27th 2012 @ 1:38pm | Report comment
If they were worried about respectability they wouldn’t have fawned over him in the first place
July 27th 2012 @ 10:22am
kingplaymaker said | July 27th 2012 @ 10:22am | Report comment
mania I don’t think they’re compatible really. It’s a very hard choice indeed to make.
July 27th 2012 @ 10:26am
mania said | July 27th 2012 @ 10:26am | Report comment
i disagree, its an easy choice. no he’s not eligible. AB’s is about dominating for the long term
July 27th 2012 @ 6:15pm
atlas said | July 27th 2012 @ 6:15pm | Report comment
not eligible?
Steve Tew says SBW is still under contract to NZRU (not just Chiefs) until his contract commencement in Japan, and that it is up to the selectors whether he is chosen or not.
What would be different if Jerome Kaino was not injured and selectors believed he was best man for the job? – he too is on NZRU contract, and off to Japan to play rugby late this year.
July 27th 2012 @ 10:42am
kingplaymaker said | July 27th 2012 @ 10:42am | Report comment
Well I agree with the position you outline. However, we have to wait and see what the NZRU or Hansen thinks.
July 27th 2012 @ 12:27pm
Riccardo said | July 27th 2012 @ 12:27pm | Report comment
See how hard it is to replace someone of Conrad’s calibre KPM?
July 27th 2012 @ 11:12am
Tumble Hill said | July 27th 2012 @ 11:12am | Report comment
Picking either SBW and Nonu still dosnt solve the issue of who plays center. While both are great No12′s I dont think either of them are international 13′s. Its a problem area for us atm, Conrad smith is the No1 and then daylight. I say pick Ellison for No13. If he dosnt perform then you can move Nonu there. Carter can always cover 12 with Cruden comming in at 1st 5.
July 27th 2012 @ 1:57pm
Bono said | July 27th 2012 @ 1:57pm | Report comment
Nonu and SBW have teamed up before at test level if I’m not mistaken. I think they can both play at centre. I would love to see a SBW/Nonu partnership against the wallabies. Imagine a backline like this….
Smith (TKB to come on at the 50 min mark)
Carter
SBW
Nonu
Jane
Savea
Dagg
Possibly the most potent attacking backline the AB’s have ever fielded.
July 27th 2012 @ 12:33pm
Jutsie said | July 27th 2012 @ 12:33pm | Report comment
On the planet rugby poll one option for replacing is smith is nonu at 13, carter 12 cruden at 10.
I’m surprised that more people arent supporting this move.
July 27th 2012 @ 12:52pm
Brett McKay said | July 27th 2012 @ 12:52pm | Report comment
that actualy sounds pretty bloody imposing, Jutsie…
July 27th 2012 @ 12:53pm
mania said | July 27th 2012 @ 12:53pm | Report comment
i’d be a fan of playing carter at 13
July 27th 2012 @ 1:57pm
Riccardo said | July 27th 2012 @ 1:57pm | Report comment
x 2 Mania.
That’s a lot more sensible than having him at 12.
July 27th 2012 @ 2:01pm
Bono said | July 27th 2012 @ 2:01pm | Report comment
Carter is very average at 12 as shown by the first half of this super season. Best 10 in the world but wouldn’t even come close to the top ten 12s in world rugby.
July 27th 2012 @ 2:47pm
Tumble Hill said | July 27th 2012 @ 2:47pm | Report comment
Remember Bono, Carter was just comming off his groin injury and even playing at 10 was a little hesitant. While he wouldnt be a big, crash ball running 12. He would be a fantastic 2nd kicking option and very sound defender. No doubt he is the best 1st 5 in the world, but after a few games in the 12 jersey he wouldnt look out of place.
July 27th 2012 @ 3:24pm
Kuruki said | July 27th 2012 @ 3:24pm | Report comment
Carter is really good at 12. He come back from a serious groin injury with a rookie playing inside him at 10. The entire Crusaders team was flat for the first half of the season. Carter made the All Blacks as a 12. IMO he is easily in the top 10 i can think of maybe 4 guys i would choose ahead of him, struggling to think of anymore. Nonu SBW DeVilliers Roberts. Then i would probably pick Carter ahead of everyone else.
July 30th 2012 @ 5:05am
mania said | July 30th 2012 @ 5:05am | Report comment
carter would hav to be the best defensive back around. tru he doesnt put in as bigger hits as nonu but he never misses a tackle and easily takes guys down bigger than him. perfect for 13. and as he’d be replacing conrad he has the vision for spotting defensive weaknesses. if can invert that and spot where the AB’s backline fraities are then turn up where he’s most needed , he’d be perfect.
July 27th 2012 @ 3:17pm
Sam Taulelei said | July 27th 2012 @ 3:17pm | Report comment
Jutsie
That is the Robbie Deans school of selection. Weaken two areas to strengthen one.
I know that everyone thinks it’s just one positional change what difference can it make, but Carter can’t exert the same kind of influence in games from 12 as he can at 10. He won’t be calling the shots from 10 and won’t have his hands on the ball as often or at the right time to make decisions about whether to kick for field position, pass or run.
It never worked when they tried this with Donald at 10 and it’s not a slight on Donald’s playing ability in comparison to Cruden.
Nonu at 13 would force them to change their backline moves as he’s either used to penetrate in closer or to act as a decoy when playing at 12 because he attracts defenders. Centre is more of a distributing role for the All Blacks so again you would be playing away from Nonu’s strengths as he wouldn’t be as involved in attacking plays from wider out and when he is, it’s to distribute the ball to the back three.
I like Darwin’s suggestion of Ben Smith at centre, he offers similar abilities and playing style to Conrad or Tamati Ellison.
They just need to strike the right balance in midfield, Nonu and Smith, SBW and Smith work well because it’s a balanced combination. Nonu and Fruean wouldn’t work as well compared to Nonu and Ellison.
July 27th 2012 @ 3:26pm
Jutsie said | July 27th 2012 @ 3:26pm | Report comment
Fair play im just tossing up options. I was thinking more along the lines of carter/mauger than donald/carter lol.
And it was more about bring cruden into the game as he is the form 10 of the tournament.
But what do you think is the timeline for when cruden becomes starting 10 and carter is phased out, how many more years do you think carter has left at the top. I only realised a week ago that he is 30, didnt realise he was so old.
July 27th 2012 @ 3:43pm
Sam Taulelei said | July 27th 2012 @ 3:43pm | Report comment
I think it’s a more a question of form rather than time.
Carter for the first time in his career has a worthy challenger for his position, so far he hasn’t put a foot wrong for the All Blacks this year and you can’t dismiss 9 years of test experience aside like last night’s nappies. As long as he’s playing well he should remain first choice.
The selectors will probably play Cruden in tests against the second tier sides to build his experience and introduce him as an impact sub in the RC. Naturally he’s first choice if Carter is injured or when he takes his next sabbatical.
July 27th 2012 @ 3:50pm
Jutsie said | July 27th 2012 @ 3:50pm | Report comment
Every aus supporter should be envious of the depth NZ has when a bloke with the season cruden has had cant crack the starting 15.
Not that I disagree with your point its just highlights a big gap in talent between aus and nz, considering we are trying to turn JOC and KB into 5/8′s/12′s despite them being our best winger/FB.
July 27th 2012 @ 3:44pm
Kuruki said | July 27th 2012 @ 3:44pm | Report comment
Balance is essential but i think people are quick to sell Nonu short when it comes to what he does on the rugby field. Most people still talk about him as if he is just a powerful crash-ball runner used to break the line or run decoy. This could not be further from the truth, in fact i would go as far as saying Nonu is now more of a distributor then he is a line-breaker.
I’m not saying he is not still a devastating runner but i really think his game is more developed now and has been for a few years. His pass is actually brilliant. His vision has improved remarkably as he often finds the target after making a half break.
People say SBW / Nonu would not be balanced, i say it would because both are balanced players, they don’t lack distribution skills they are just used in more physical roles because they are good at it. Nonu has one of the better passes in the All Black side imo. He has matured so much as a player that he could comfortably alter his role to suit the team.
Ellison seems to be put in the same category as Conrad Smith but i would actually rate Nonu a better distributor. A strong running game is a massive part of what Ellison brings to the table aswel as a good rugby brain.
Cruden has come alongway in the past 12 months and he has the maturity in his game now to control a test match. I have no issue with him running the show with Carter at 12 but i would guess Ellison to 13 would be the first option taken.
July 27th 2012 @ 4:15pm
moaman said | July 27th 2012 @ 4:15pm | Report comment
Agree with all of that Kuruki.
July 27th 2012 @ 4:59pm
Sam Taulelei said | July 27th 2012 @ 4:59pm | Report comment
Very valid points Kuruki.
Nonu has improved his passing game immensely and makes better decisions in defence. He has definitely become a more rounded player and his game complements Smith and Carter’s game beautifully.
Nonu is a much better player when outside Carter.
I also agree about Cruden and my points about Carter’s lack of influence from 12 wasn’t a potshot at Cruden’s inability to control a game either.
Cruden is the heir apparent and form 10 in NZ, Carter is the incumbent and still playing well. We should enjoy this luxury while we can.
July 27th 2012 @ 1:15pm
moaman said | July 27th 2012 @ 1:15pm | Report comment
I loathe the notion of DC playing anywhere other than 10 unless we are in a match-day situation where injuries necessitate such a move.He is a run-of-the-mill 2nd 5 whereas at 10 he’s pretty handy
Whilst I’m into ‘loathing’ I would also hate to see Williams brought back to somehow cover for Conrad.Firstly,on principle-he is gone-leave him gone.Secondly…he isn’t a 13 anyway.Pick Ellison or whoever is deemed next in line.
Finally,to balance the ledger—Loved Riccardo’s ” See how hard it is to replace someone of Conrad’s calibre KPM?
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