Does Travis Burns deserve 15 weeks?
By Curtis Woodward, 28 Jul 2012 Curtis Woodward is a Roar Guru & Live Blogger
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Travis Burns’ career is in jeopardy and he will wait nervously until next Wednesday night to find out whether he will ever play professional rugby league again.
The Panther now risks a 12-week suspension after electing to seek a downgrade of the grade three intentional high tackle charge for the hit gone wrong on Martin Kennedy which saw the fiery five-eighth sent from Centrebet Stadium on Sunday afternoon.
If the Panthers can successfully argue that the high shot was reckless instead of intentional, the suspension would be slashed by half.
Speaking on Triple M’s Grill Team, Matthew Johns said earlier in the week that he couldn’t believe the length of Burns’ suspensions.
“Travis Burns is facing 17 weeks on the sideline,” Johns said prior to the grading.
“I spoke to Travis Burns yesterday, he was basically in tears. He said, ‘If I cop 17 weeks, my career is over’.
“Does he deserve 17 weeks for the chicken wing and the high tackle?” Johns asked.
“17 weeks, one of the biggest suspensions ever handed out… I cannot believe it, I think the Panthers will go and fight it…I think Travis should spend eight weeks on the sideline, maximum”.
It may not have been 17, but 15 is just as costly for Burns.
Forget the high shot for a moment. It was simply a technical deficiency from a smaller man trying to aggressively ground a much bigger opponent.
The elephant in the room was the manoeuvre on Mose Masoe. It was one of the most obvious and blatant deep fried chicken wing tackles the National Rugby League has seen.
Burns has already accepted a three-match ban for the incident.
But who is to blame for the chicken wing?
If players weren’t brainwashed with wrestling holds at training, Burns would be up on one charge and not two.
Instead of a possible 15-week hiatus, Burns would be facing 12. If the high tackle is halved, the playmaker would be looking at six instead of nine
But wrestling holds have become such a big part of the game, that Burns has his coaches to thank for the predicament that he is in.
Des Hasler coached Burns at the Manly Sea Eagles for three seasons from 2005, Neil Henry coached him at the North Queensland Cowboys in 2009 and Matthew Elliott was at Penrith when Burns joined the Panthers in 2010.
Wrestling holds have become a necessary evil in the modern NRL.
These men are the fathers of career homicide.
Granted the majority of Burns’ suspension will be due to the high tackle.
But the kid looked like a robot on Sunday as he put Masoe into that arm lock. He was just doing what his brain has been trained to do.
The dark shadows of rugby league wrestling are just starting to roll over, and the coaches are to blame.
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July 28th 2012 @ 7:14am
oikee said | July 28th 2012 @ 7:14am | Report comment
You see, this is where the problem is, not so much with Burns who committed the chicken wing and then threw himself at a players head with the added swinging arm. ?
Has the guy be living under a rock, all of a sudden this play is legal is it. ?
No the real problem is people who after we call for players heads, you get all mushy, weak at the knees. Blood and guts is fine as long as i dont have to look at it.? Come on.
Look, take away the emotion, it is your team out their being slaughtered, headhighs, chicken wings, players out for the next week or 2 and your team fall to pieces and start losing games. Now, you getting angry now, think about this, your in top spot, your best forward gets his eye socket smashed, your playmaker has his socket pulled outta his arm, and your now without them for a few weeks.
Nice work Burnzy ya little grug mester, hope he gets 16 weeks, it is not the first time i have seen Burnzy being penalised for something stupid, and their are other players who push the boundary every week and have gotten away with dirty play, while the players they have hurt are out for a week or month.
If we let Burnzy off, we moght as well throw away the rule book, getting sick in the tummy when they roll out the death penalty is not going to cut grass mate, if you cant handle the death penalty, go live in another country, or get rid of it.
Just a example, we seem to be going soft, all calling for a shoulder charge ban but when it comes to real dangerous dirty play, we hesitate, start to back peddle.
Stay strong, lets send Burnzy to PNG and let the natives cook him.
July 28th 2012 @ 7:39am
Manly Man said | July 28th 2012 @ 7:39am | Report comment
This is rubbish he should get 4 weeks absolute max Greg Inglis’s was 10 times worse and he got 3 Is this the sort of byst garbage the rabbitohs get for being the NRLs “Pride and Joy” All I can say is I hope you get thrown out again you hopeless little vermin
July 28th 2012 @ 7:40am
eagleJack said | July 28th 2012 @ 7:40am | Report comment
You are one of a kind oikee!
Proving intent will be very difficult. They will try to say in the preceding play the ball, the scuffle between Burns and Kennedy leading to the penalty, meant that a fired up Burns intentionally went high on the next hit-up. Kennedy has already quashed this suggestion and may be called as a witness. As such the tackle will be downgraded to reckless. Meaning he will miss 8-9 weeks in total. Meaning he will be back in Round 4 at the latest. Probably in Raiders colours.
July 28th 2012 @ 8:40am
oikee said | July 28th 2012 @ 8:40am | Report comment
I honestly dont think the tackle or chicken wing was that bad. I just dont want “us as a code” to go soft.
Gee whiz, after all the debarkle and mayhem last week with Dean Young, he was out good as new running around last night. Nothing wrong with him, and the tackle was not that bad. As i said head shots are alot worse.
The guy Burgess headbutted the other week, (O’Donnell’s ,Lukes brother for the knights, he has not come back after getting his head smashed.
I am more worried about players knocking heads. Your brain gets bounced around like a bowling ball.
July 28th 2012 @ 10:30am
Dayer said | July 28th 2012 @ 10:30am | Report comment
YES .. 15 WEEKS IS JUST ON THE MONEY … He is repeated offender
July 30th 2012 @ 3:51pm
Albo said | July 30th 2012 @ 3:51pm | Report comment
Burns is his own worst enemy !
He has sailed close to the wind for his whole career.
He is a tough little character, but does his team / club no favours when he gets caught out like this !
As a repeat offender he deserves some time out, but 15 weeks is ridiculous !
6 weeks for his bad record would be reasonable ! The chicken wing charge was a joke and should never have been raised ! It was no different to 30 other tackles in that or any other match each week !
If he was playing AFL he would have got 2 matches for head high tackle!
They don’t even give 6 weeks for an axe murder !
July 28th 2012 @ 10:31am
steve b said | July 28th 2012 @ 10:31am | Report comment
No he does not deserve 15 weeks its a joke ,,the judiciary need to get this one right because they look like they are playing favs at the moment ,depending on how high profile the player is !
July 29th 2012 @ 2:02pm
Manly man said | July 29th 2012 @ 2:02pm | Report comment
I agree except the referees and the judiciary have been showing who there favorites are all year by giving Tony Williams 7 weeks and robbie Farrah 2 for his spear tackle that was far worse and giving burns 15 and Inglis’s 3 and the refs have been byst and dreadful all year.
July 30th 2012 @ 5:09pm
Crosscoder said | July 30th 2012 @ 5:09pm | Report comment
Travis Burns is the modern day Michale Crocker.Penalised time after time,and usually for major discretions on the field.
You play with fire ,you get burnt.If the message doesn’t sink in over the years,then the big stick needs to be produced.
Else it continues monotonously.
Burns is a talented player,who stuffs up his footballing prowess with regular indiscretions.
August 4th 2012 @ 7:52pm
Bazzio said | August 4th 2012 @ 7:52pm | Report comment
In the judiciary someone, sometime, had to say “enough” to head-high tackles. This is that occasion. call him “scapegoat”, “example”, or whatever, but the fact remains he attacked the head of an opposing player using a swinging arm. Enough.
Strangely enough, there hasn’t been any contact with the head in tackles so far this weekend, either “accidental” or not, when head contact has been too frequent for too long.
Funny, that.