Favourite teams and forwards of 2012
By jeznez, 28 Jul 2012 jeznez is a Roar Guru
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I’ve really enjoyed Super Rugby 2012. The competition was close, minnows have upset favourites, powerhouse sides struggled and two teams that were roundly written off at the start of the season nearly made the finals.
I’ve been a bit glass half empty the last few days with the relative performance of the top Aussie sides and some interesting inclusions and omissions in Robbie Deans’ Wallabies training squad. It has been hard to find positives against the backdrop of my beloved Waratahs worst season ever.
To break myself out of my funk I thought I’d look back at the things that really enthused me during the season.
That fend by Dean Mumm stands out as a moment and the consistent performance of the Waratahs scrum were the only things looking up in Tah land.
Given those slim pickings let’s look further afield.
As a one off game the Rebels victory over the Crusaders brought a cheer, although the Reds comeback against the Chiefs was probably better footy.
It hurts to say as an Aussie, but the Sharks were ominous against the Reds on the weekend, their ability to control the breakdown with fewer numbers has to send warning signs to the Wallabies with the international season upon us.
The overall performance of the Brumbies, Hurricanes and Cheetahs made me smile.
These three teams were written off by most punters before the season kicked off, this little black duck was one of the non-believers. All three of them performed above expectation.
The Cheetahs had their season cruelled when Johan Goosen got injured and that combined with the sporadic appearances of Heinrich Brussow and non-appearance of Juan Smith meant they would always struggle. However they play the game with great style and in particular their game against the Crusaders was a classic.
They really took it to the big boys from NZ’s south island and scored some great tries. Although they lost I became an admirer that day.
The Brumbies played a real mixed bag of rugby during the season, most people tend to talk about the bright performances and gloss over the weaker ones. As a team with almost no internationals and very few Super Rugby caps between them, we can forgive them a lack of consistency.
They led the Aussie conference for most of the season and froze at the last moment to miss out on the final six when a mere bonus point was all they needed to get through.
They should improve further next year and Christian Lealiifano and Matt Toomua loom as returning players that will help this side continue to rise.
The Hurricanes were the biggest surprise packet of all. The harsh markers are saying that Mark Hammett cleared out the dead wood, found new players and moulded them into a side that delivered what the Hurricanes always have: a brilliant attacking outfit that frequently go close to making the finals.
Gee they have been fun to watch. Their season started in South Africa where they had a couple of close losses, then they demolished the Force in Perth before settling into the season.
The Hurricanes critical game was probably the one they dropped against the Brumbies in Wellington, that game was there to be won and they gave up a big lead. Will be interesting to see how they perform next year.
While most were pleasantly surprised by how they went this year, I think if they don’t make the finals next year, then mutterings about Hammett may rise again.
Special mention to the Chiefs, while not predicted to be wooden spooners like some of the sides above, very few of us predicted they would have performed the way they have this season. I’ve been very impressed by the work that Dave Rennie has done with his forwards this year.
He has found some excellent young forwards to complement what has always been a very dangerous back division.
My final word on team’s play this season has to go to the Highlanders. The Highlanders forwards are a pack in the truest sense of the word, they work together as a unit, they bind and are cohesive in their efforts.
The Highlanders forwards contest everything with purpose and intensity and at their best they made it impossible for the opposition to hold the ball against them.
Meanwhile, they have excellent pace out wide and send the ball to their back three to have them challenging the defence all day. They still, however, need to find a level of consistency and an ability to maintain their best over the full course of the season.
When they are on song their game it is great, but when they are slightly off their game it hurts them.
The Highlander’s ruck clean out and counter ruck is absolutely fantastic. It is a credit to the players and Jamie Joseph the way they deliver in that space.
That is enough on teams, there were a number of players who either came on the scene or found another level in their play and caught my eye this season.
Below are some of my favourites.
On the loosehead side I liked Sona Taumololo, Greg Holmes and Coenie Oosthuizen. Sona and Coenie did their core scrummaging job well and added try scoring damage close to the line.
Holmes also scrummed well and really upped his work rate around the pitch, belting breakdowns like a tight five forward should.
Sona deserves special mention because in prior seasons his scrummaging has been below par but in the last twelve months he has developed enormously in this part of his game.
On the tighthead side, I thought Ben Tameifuna had an outstanding first season, he is a gigantic young man with a big future. Fitness will be key in the off season to run some of that puppy fat off him.
Dan Palmer showed that his scrummaging is strong even without a specialist heavy lock behind him, he too needs to up the cardio and improve his breakdown work. In South Africa there was no gun young THP coming through, Jannie du Plessis was probably the pick of their threes, but he is an experienced campaigner.
Similarly at hooker in Australia and South Africa there weren’t any stand out new faces. Adi Strauss, Bismarck du Plessis, Stephen Moore and Tatafu Polota-Nau continued to deliver to their strengths and in some cases their weaknesses. Across the ditch they at least had a couple of younger guys step up at the Hurricanes.
Dane Coles and Motu Matu’u did some interesting things, Coles showing off a pretty good step and Matu’u absolutely terrified ball carriers with some of his hits.
The locks threw up some excellent young prospects. Caderyn Neville has shown a huge amount of potential in Oz, Brodie Retallick in New Zealand and Eben Etzebeth in South Africa have both come on so well they are now in their national squads.
Special mention to Anton Bressler for the best mullet in the game.
On the flanks Liam Gill and Michael Hooper shone for the Aussie sides. In New Zealand we saw Sam Cane make his way through to the All Blacks and Richie McCaw proved he can make a difference from anywhere in the backrow, not just seven. In South Africa, Marcel Coetzee and Siya Kolisi showed there are strong young players coming through there as well.
It was great seeing James Haskell come from the English Rugby World Cup squad down to test himself in the Super comp.
At eight we haven’t really seen too many new faces, Scott Higginbotham looks like he may convert, although being at the Rebels next year will likely put that on hold. In the meantime Wycliff Palu is the man for Oz and Kieran Read dominates in NZ.
Lopeti Timani is a new face coming through for the Tahs – Ita Vaea went backwards at the Brumbies. Duane Vermeulen had an injury interrupted season but remains a very promising player that has done well at Super level and deserves a shot at higher honours.
As usual I’ll leave the backs to others.
So Roarers, what are the things that made you smile this year? What were the plays, who were the players?
Who is still to make a mark as the remaining matches play out?
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July 28th 2012 @ 5:08am
Ben S said | July 28th 2012 @ 5:08am | Report comment
Nice article.
I was pretty impressed with (in no particular order) Steven Kitshoff, Charlie Faumuinia, Dave Dennis, Jack Lam, the young trio of NZ 9s and quite a few others actually – just didn’t want to make one of those massive lists.
I take your Bresler’s mullet and raise you a Tevita Mailau.
July 28th 2012 @ 1:31pm
jeznez said | July 28th 2012 @ 1:31pm | Report comment
Ha, ha. Mailau’s shaved head with the piece left on at the back is very special.
I wonder if I should also have mentioned the twins – Scott Fardy and Josh Strauss? Jason Eaton is another proponent of the bushranger’s beard
July 29th 2012 @ 4:15am
The Werewolf said | July 29th 2012 @ 4:15am | Report comment
BS How would they compare against some of the players in the premiership out of interest? How do you think Mumm will get on at Exeter?
July 29th 2012 @ 10:16pm
jeznez said | July 29th 2012 @ 10:16pm | Report comment
Wolfie, are you asking him sincerely or are you continuing in your belief that he isn’t really English?
If its the latter – why don’t you just read a few of the guys articles?
http://www.theroar.com.au/author/ben-s/?rel=author
If it is a genuine question then I apologise for sticking my nose in.
July 30th 2012 @ 11:03pm
The Werewolf said | July 30th 2012 @ 11:03pm | Report comment
He is an aussie living in england like the hundreds of thousands of us. he’s hiding his anti Deans wallaby bias behind a facade to give it supposed credibility.
eg people on here were criticising the opening ceremony and his response was to write literally two words about a quip about napoleon. Passionate brits would only have kicked off reading such criticism. (The English are only raving about the ceremony I can tell you and rightly so IMHO.)
yet if anyone writes anything commending Robbie Deans for anything (which English people couldn’t care less about) he’ll respond with desperate passionate retorts like all the other aussie deans haters.
He’s from a land with a queen alright. Its called Queensland.
July 30th 2012 @ 11:41pm
jeznez said | July 30th 2012 @ 11:41pm | Report comment
ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha – thanks Wolfie, genuinely laughing out loud.
July 30th 2012 @ 11:50pm
Ben S said | July 30th 2012 @ 11:50pm | Report comment
Wow. Just wow.
I didn’t write anything about Napoleon. Katzilla, another long standing rugby fan, made a gag about Sharpe and I responded. Please don’t misquote me.
I’m genuinely a bit shocked, but whatever floats your boat…
July 31st 2012 @ 5:39am
The Werewolf said | July 31st 2012 @ 5:39am | Report comment
haha you thought it was a comment about Nathan Sharpe.
He made a comment about Sean Bean as Captain Sharpe, a character from the napoleanic wars played by Sean Bean, slapping Napoleon as a good idea for the opening ceremony.
I’d have though as a brit you’d have got the reference???? certainly when considering you labelled the comment ‘brilliant’
July 31st 2012 @ 7:17am
Ben S said | July 31st 2012 @ 7:17am | Report comment
I see. I’m really not sure what you think is going on here? I don’t understand what you’re saying given there is nothing I’ve said to suggest I don’t know who Sharpe is. I did actually live in Sheffield for three years.
Listen, as much as I think this sort of attention is especially odd, I’m more than willing to give you my postcode, Millwall season ticket number, favourite pubs etc. Just anything for you to stop pestering me. It’s a bit unsettling now, and you’re ruining threads and embarassing yourself. If you want to talk rugby then please do, but just give everybody a break.
July 31st 2012 @ 2:00pm
Tristan Rayner said | July 31st 2012 @ 2:00pm | Report comment
Werewolf – please stop this. I’ve put you on moderation for now, but I will give you a break for a week or two if this continues. It’s frankly, quite ridiculous.
Ben S – please stop responding to Werewolf – just leave it and don’t antagonise the situation.
July 31st 2012 @ 7:29pm
Ben S said | July 31st 2012 @ 7:29pm | Report comment
Fair do’s, Tristan. Point noted.
July 29th 2012 @ 10:50pm
Ben S said | July 29th 2012 @ 10:50pm | Report comment
Hard to say as it’s a different type of game. A player like Lam, for example, would probably do very well as he’s an absolute workhorse. Kitshoff and Faumuinia, as much as I rate them, would probably struggle in the tight initially. Dennis would probably go well, especially given he plays for a forward orientated side. Horses for courses really…
Not sure about Mumm. The Chiefs have generally got their recruitment spot on over the past few seasons, so although I think he’ll get bashed around (he’s not really big enough for lock IMO, or skilled enough for 6) I’ll go with judgement of Rob Baxter.
July 30th 2012 @ 10:54pm
The Werewolf said | July 30th 2012 @ 10:54pm | Report comment
He was recruited a s a lock. With Tom Johnson they already have an international 6.
July 30th 2012 @ 11:52pm
Ben S said | July 30th 2012 @ 11:52pm | Report comment
He wasn’t signed just as a lock. He was signed as a lock/back five player. Don’t know what Tom Johnson has to do with anything either?
July 31st 2012 @ 5:44am
The Werewolf said | July 31st 2012 @ 5:44am | Report comment
Johnson is the Exeter no 6 Ben and Englan’s most recent blindside flanker. Mumm has been signed to bolster their lock depth. was their major player in their relatively successful season. They have not had much of a recruitment drive. As a brit i’d have thought you’d have known all this?
July 31st 2012 @ 7:19am
Ben S said | July 31st 2012 @ 7:19am | Report comment
I guess you’ve not heard of squad depth, and the fact that Baxter mentioned that Mumm was a back five forward, and also the fact that Baxter likes to recruit forwards who can play in multiple positions. I guess you’re also missing the point that Johnson, under EPS arrangements, won’t be playing every game for the Chiefs…
If you want to go back to the SA v England threads, then you’ll note I spent a lot of time talking about Johnson.
July 31st 2012 @ 6:58pm
The Werewolf said | July 31st 2012 @ 6:58pm | Report comment
if you go onto their website Mumm is listed as a lock
July 31st 2012 @ 11:49pm
Ben S said | July 31st 2012 @ 11:49pm | Report comment
Fine, but all of what I said is relevant. I would bet all the whiskey in Ireland that Mumm gets game time in the back row.
July 28th 2012 @ 5:13am
biltongbek said | July 28th 2012 @ 5:13am | Report comment
Great article Jeznes, nice to read the positives you found in the Super XV.
My favourite teams this year was the Cheetahs for their exciting rugby they played inspite of having to rebuild on a continuous basis, the Hurricanes for their incredible counter attacking this year, well they have always been my favourite overseas franchise, then the Sharks for their beefy forwards who in my personal view is also the most mobile pack in the competition and their backline who has played good wide running rugby.
My favourite combination of the tournament.
Marcell Coetzee, Keegan Daniels and Ryan Kankowski.
My favourite players to watch this season per position.
Front row
Coenie Oosthuizen, Bismarck du Plessis
Locks
Ritalliec (spellling), Etzebeth and Bresler
Backrow
sharks backrow and Kolisi
Halfbacks
Kerr Barlow
Fly halves
Goosen and Cruden
Midfielders
Conrad Smith
Wings
JP Pietersen
Fullback
Andre Taylor
Cheers
July 28th 2012 @ 5:37am
Kuruki said | July 28th 2012 @ 5:37am | Report comment
Being a Kiwi i will concentrate on our conference leaving the SA and AUS ones to the experts.
The biggest joy for me this year was to see the impact made by some of New Zealand’s youngest players. There are too many to name but it’s so exciting to see. In a period where a chunk of our All Blacks were getting to the end of their days at the top of the game, it was vital we found a new wave of players to come in and wash away any complacency, especially after a world cup victory.
The new talent on show will ensure that the old hands continue to look for improvements and not get complacent.
Chiefs !!!!
The way the Chiefs have played this year has made me proud. To finish top of the NZ conference and make the final shows we are not just pretenders. We have delivered all season.
There was a massive cloud hanging over our season after the first game when we lost to the Highlanders and then lost some key players to boot.
Tameifuna Rettalick Cane Kerr-Barlow Horrell Cruden Tikoroituma these young guys were huge for us this season.
The way Rennie and co managed to reignite the passion in some of the players who had gone stale under Foster was very pleasing to watch.
Taumalolo, Craig Clarke, Latimer. The introduction of Thompson and Shwalger into the pack was masterstroke. These unheralded players were the core to our success this season, and it just goes to show how much an environment and team culture change can do for players. Waratahs take note.
Hurricanes.
The entire team was outstanding. Everybody wrote them off and they came out with nothing to lose and everything to prove. They played a brilliant brand of rugby and it didn’t take long for disgruntled fans to see they had a team worth watching again.
The backline play from these guys was outstanding. Two experienced heady blokes, Bateman and Smith surrounded by some of the most exciting backs in the game proved to be too much to handle for most teams this season. Behind a pack like the Crusaders that backline would be unstoppable.
Special mention to the loose forwards at the Canes. They were brilliant and brutal all season. The only thing standing between the Hurricanes and finals rugby next year is the development of that tight five. A young frontrow who will only get better.
The key for the Hurricanes is to secure a big name lock for next season.
Crusaders.
Same old same old for the Crusaders again this year. They had a slow start with some key players nursing injury.
They had the core of the All Black pack who were always going to be a bit off colour after the world cup. But like they always do they delivered when it mattered and showed again why they are a champion side.
The development of Tom Taylor is one big plus from the crusaders camp. The development of Romano and Whitelock as a premier locking combination is the biggest plus to NZ rugby from this group.
The usual suspects just toiled away, not really setting the world on fire but getting the job done as usual.
Highlanders.
Another season of promise but failing to really push on with it. They played some brilliant rugby and some dour rugby to match. A Smith the biggest highlight from the Highlanders this season. The fall from grace of Jimmy Cowan was quick and brutal, but what a servant of NZ rugby he has been.
Good to see Hore find his place and the good management of his playing time this year has probably put another season or two into his legs at the top of the game.
I will say i hope the import experiment of Haskell ends this season and they look to the youth of this country to find a roster. It has worked at the Chiefs and the Canes.
Well there is the NZ conference in my eyes. I feel like i’m missing something but oh well.
July 28th 2012 @ 5:49am
Kuruki said | July 28th 2012 @ 5:49am | Report comment
From the NZ conference i was most excited by these players.
Prop
Tameifuna.
Hooker
Motu Matu’u
Lock.
Rettalick Romano
Loosie.
Cane. Levave. Braid.
Halfback.
Perenara. Smith. KB
10.
Cruden. Barret
Midfield.
SBW. Smith
Wing
Savea. Tikoroituma.
Fullback.
Taylor. Horrell
July 28th 2012 @ 5:51am
Ben S said | July 28th 2012 @ 5:51am | Report comment
I thought Haskell went well.
July 28th 2012 @ 6:38am
Kuruki said | July 28th 2012 @ 6:38am | Report comment
I thought he was ill disciplined and ultimately had a negative result on NZ rugby with Colin Bourke missing out on a contract because Haskell took his spot. What did we gain? Absolutely nothing, he is going back to England.
July 28th 2012 @ 6:53am
Ben S said | July 28th 2012 @ 6:53am | Report comment
If Colin Bourke missed out on a spot that has nothing to do with Haskell as Bourke is an 8. He had moments of ill-discipline, but overall I think he played well, and I’ve read nothing but positive things about him from Kiwi fans and media.
July 28th 2012 @ 7:42am
Kuruki said | July 28th 2012 @ 7:42am | Report comment
I can tell you right now, had Haskell not signed with the Highlanders Bourke would have been there.
July 28th 2012 @ 7:46am
Ben S said | July 28th 2012 @ 7:46am | Report comment
And what game time would Bourke have got over Manu? None.
July 28th 2012 @ 12:08pm
Kuruki said | July 28th 2012 @ 12:08pm | Report comment
Bourke would have played Blindside and Thomo would have played open.
July 28th 2012 @ 8:31pm
Ben S said | July 28th 2012 @ 8:31pm | Report comment
I really, really doubt that.
July 28th 2012 @ 1:47pm
jeznez said | July 28th 2012 @ 1:47pm | Report comment
I really enjoyed watching Haskell play this year – I agree that he didn’t do anything to help build NZ rugby. In fact I think having played the style of rugby that he has within a pack like the Highlanders that he will be a better player when he heads back north.
I was most pleased to see a player of his level come down and mix it in our competition though. Especially in Oz where we seem to be seeing a lot of young talent heading off shore I want to see more players moving between competitions, will give Oz a better chance of seeing some young guys come back and try to make it into Wallaby gold.
July 28th 2012 @ 7:31pm
katzilla said | July 28th 2012 @ 7:31pm | Report comment
Bourke had no one to blame but himself.
It had nothing to do with Haskell, Bourke assumed he would play for the Chiefs and expressed no interest in going south. The deadline came and went and Bourke wasn’t picked for the Chiefs and the Highlanders squad was already settled.
If anyone outside of Bourke is to blame it should have been Rennie who maybe could have let him know early to look elsewhere.
Other then that I thought Haskell was a perfect fit for the Highlanders setup, under rated forwards with a lot of Mongrel.
Haskell gave away a few penalties but he never took a backwards step and was solid around the ruck in a few of the close matches. He also wasn’t afraid to let the ball go which is something English forwards in general have improved on the last few years.
July 30th 2012 @ 3:32pm
Danny said | July 30th 2012 @ 3:32pm | Report comment
I welcomed the Haskell experiment but was let down when he took 1/3rd of the season to really get fired up and promptly got banned for the next 1/3rd for stupid actions he’s displayed occasionally in England. In the final 1/3rd he began to show the promise he arrived with.
It was a huge opportunity to play a whole season with a reasonable/decent NZ team in S15. If he had soaked up that experience and grown as a player it could’ve had a very positive outcome on his England hopes. Many players have grown out of a strong NZ experience, not least one M Johnson. As it is he is there or thereabouts with England, but I’m calling the Haskell experiment as an opportunity lost.
Not to mention how Joseph must have felt when he got 4 weeks for punching.
July 31st 2012 @ 1:47am
Ben S said | July 31st 2012 @ 1:47am | Report comment
Haskell just finished in Japan, the same as Weepu and Nonu, and look how long it took them to fire up too.
I can’t see how you can say he hasn’t grown as a player? I would imagine that aspects of his game have improved, if not his discipline. He certainly played well against SA in the 3rd Test.
July 28th 2012 @ 1:42pm
jeznez said | July 28th 2012 @ 1:42pm | Report comment
nice review of the NZ sides Kuruki.
July 28th 2012 @ 10:54am
the Bone said | July 28th 2012 @ 10:54am | Report comment
Chris Alcock outplayed Pocock in Perth, Hooper in Sydney and Gill in Brisbane
July 28th 2012 @ 1:37pm
jeznez said | July 28th 2012 @ 1:37pm | Report comment
I think that is fair comment Bone, however I think that those three had off games. Pocock really only showed his best against Wales this year. Hooper and Gill had outstanding games throughout the season. I’d point to Hooper against the Hurricanes and Gill against the Crusaders.
I’d suggest that although outplayed by Alcock in the game you mention, that the best games those players managed were stronger than anything Chris delivered during the season.
The Tahs definitely have a log jam of players in a couple of key positions now. 7 will have Hooper, Alcock, McCutcheon and Jenkins. 9 will have Hart, Pretorius, McKibbin and Lucas. That is 8 players out of a 30 man squad covering two positions (McCutcheon has a bit of flexibility and maybe Pretorius can play wing) but something is going to have to give.
July 28th 2012 @ 2:52pm
Sluggy said | July 28th 2012 @ 2:52pm | Report comment
Pretorius may not be there – perhaps this is an opportunity for the ‘tahs to bring in an OS 5/8 instead, maybe this fellow is available – 8 tests for los Pumas, for 8 wins. If I understand it correctly he is the third choice behind Hernandez & Fernandez and currently plays CC for the Pampas XV.
http://www.espnscrum.com/statsguru/rugby/player/98426.html?class=1;template=results;type=player
July 30th 2012 @ 8:07am
formeropenside said | July 30th 2012 @ 8:07am | Report comment
when was this, I must have missed it
July 30th 2012 @ 2:51pm
Markus said | July 30th 2012 @ 2:51pm | Report comment
Me too. Outside of his 2-3 turnovers, Alcock did very little in the Sydney Brumbies match, and got through nowhere near the amount of work that Hooper did, in attack or defence.
July 28th 2012 @ 11:25am
sixo_clock said | July 28th 2012 @ 11:25am | Report comment
See… your analysis would sit well as HPMsdib, just include this article with your resume.
It has been a very enjoyable season with my highlights specific mostly to the Rebels who finished way above the wooden spoon, have some good players and even gooder fans. The Army continues as a real eye-opener for Oz Rugby coupled with the clubs determination to involve kids in the pre-game has the future of Vic Rugby well in mind. They are doing some solid thinking in that club.
Special mention to the Wallabies who held off the Welsh, not everybody’s first choice as a squad but they did the job emphatically needing only one Eales type pressure kick to seal one match. Harris could be first choice 10 or 12 in the near future.
The 2012 efforts of Gill, Hooper, Neville and renewed efforts of Inman, Pyle, Lealifano etc all bode well for 2013.
Cheers, look forward to your articles.
July 28th 2012 @ 1:41pm
jeznez said | July 28th 2012 @ 1:41pm | Report comment
The enthusiasm of the Rebel Army is a great thing sixo, would definitely have made my list had I thought of it.
It is the offseason up here so the main focus at the moment is on the dib component rather than the s. Interestingly enough the pub I’ll be at this evening serves Boags which qualifies as international beer up here!
July 29th 2012 @ 1:11pm
sixo_clock said | July 29th 2012 @ 1:11pm | Report comment
dib = weight training i suspect, there is no ‘s’ in torture
July 28th 2012 @ 1:56pm
Jutsie said | July 28th 2012 @ 1:56pm | Report comment
Continuing on the rebels promoting vic rugby theme, I read on the rebel army fb page yesterday that cooper vuna is going to play for endeavour hills and Ged robinson for box hill in the Victorian club rugby tournament today.
The first ever wallaby to play for a victorian club.
July 28th 2012 @ 11:43am
Sluggy said | July 28th 2012 @ 11:43am | Report comment
Seeing KB back at flyhalf for the Rebels was a good thing.
July 28th 2012 @ 1:38pm
jeznez said | July 28th 2012 @ 1:38pm | Report comment
that it was Sluggy, lets hope his ribs heal up.
July 28th 2012 @ 4:32pm
Pogo said | July 28th 2012 @ 4:32pm | Report comment
How good was Tamiefuna against Crockett? He was very unfortunate to be penalised for collapsing when Crockett lost his feet.
July 28th 2012 @ 6:15pm
jeznez said | July 28th 2012 @ 6:15pm | Report comment
Yes and no Pogo, if you watch a replay of that scrum, Tameifuna was poor in controlling Crockett’s bind. It was an issue all night and in that scrum in particular he let Wyatt get a long bind on him. His right foot wasn’t planted either and he moved it backwards just after the hit. A penalty rather than a re-set was harsh there but Crockett was right on top.
Overall Joubert was a bit harsh on the Cheifs and lenient on the Crusaders at scrum time. Crockett missed his bind at least three times and only got penalised once. Overall though the Crusaders scrum was on top and so got the rub of the green. I think it was noticeable that Afeaki had even more trouble than Tameifuna did when that sub was made. Sona held it together well on his side until O. Franks came on.
You have to remember that Tameifuna is only 20 years old, he has only just switched from the U-19 laws up to proper scrums and he won’t have packed against too many guys who can match his power before either. He has huge potential but he has a lot of technique to learn. I’m really excited for the young bloke, as he matures he will get a lot stronger and being in the NZ environment he’ll get to work with Mike Cron, if he just soaks it up and applies himself, he is going to be something else in the years to come.
July 29th 2012 @ 1:02pm
Spencer said | July 29th 2012 @ 1:02pm | Report comment
Jez, what is your take on Bismarck du Plessis standing up in scrums. It happened a lot in the Reds match, and again last night against Stormers.
July 29th 2012 @ 1:26pm
jeznez said | July 29th 2012 @ 1:26pm | Report comment
I think he was trying to milk penalties. The Sharks scrum was so dominant that I cannot see it being pressure from Liebenberg and Harris which would be the normal cause of a hooker standing up.
It is misguided as well, by standing up it removes the forward momentum the Sharks scrum were generating. Referees are geared to penalise scrums going backwards these days you are taking out the pressure and a chance of a penalty anyway.
July 30th 2012 @ 7:13am
moaman said | July 30th 2012 @ 7:13am | Report comment
Fantastic,constructive and interesting article and posts.
August 1st 2012 @ 5:45am
Ben S said | August 1st 2012 @ 5:45am | Report comment
I’ve given this more thought:
1. Taumalolo, 2. Moore, 3. Faumuina, 4. Etzebeth, 5. Sharpe, 6. Messam, 7. Coetzee, 8. Mowen.
Just a personal choice. I imagine it wouldn’t be the populist choice.