How will Meyer manage his players?
By biltongbek, 1 Aug 2012 biltongbek is a Roar Guru & Live Blogger
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When the final whistle blows on Saturday, August 4, to sound the end of the Super Rugby season, it will be exactly 14 days before the Springboks take on Argentina at Newlands, Capetown.
In the past season there has been a slight hint towards a power shift happening in South Africa.
Even though the South African conference will show you that the Stormers have been on top of the SA conference for the past two years and the Bulls and Sharks have been fighting it out for second place, the reality is John Plumtree’s players have shown more ingenuity, more flair and more attacking nous combined with solid structure and very strong defence.
When considering the potential selections that Heyneke Meyer has to contemplate, the bulk of his forward pack is most likely to come from the Sharks Franchise.
Beast Mtwarira, Bismarck du Plessis, Jannie du Plessis, Keegan Daniel, Willem Alberts, Marcell Coetzee and Ryan Kankowski all have a realistic chance to feature during the Rugby Championship.
Now forget about the perceived blue tinted bias from Heyneke Meyer for a moment, and consider which of the other Franchises’ players could push for a place in the pack.
Beast, Bismarck and Jannie are without a doubt in my mind the incumbents and only the injured Coenie Oosthuizen would have been able to push for a position in the starting front row.
Arguably Andries Bekker, Even Etzebeth and Juandre Kruger would be the first choice players competing for the lock combination with Bekker and Etzebeth the front runners. You could even make a case for Anton Bresler who has played every game for the Sharks this season and his work rate alone would justify his selection.
Considering Schalk Burger and Juan Smith is out of the equation and Pierre Spies has been in poor form for some time now, it stands to reason Marcell Coetzee, Willem Alberts and Ryan Kankowski are a good bet in the starting XV.
Who could push for a place there? Perhaps Duane Vermeulen if fit, Heinrich Brussow or Keegan Daniel who has been touted by many to have had his best season for some time and led his team from the front.
Uncharacteristically the half back cupboard in South Africa is currently quite bare, with a number of solid, but not spectacular nines available, Francois Hougaard could have been pushed by Sarel Pretorius, but alas he decided his future lies elsewhere (wonder if he still believes that?). Ruan Pienaar would be the obvious alternate.
The most talked about position in South Africa is undoubtedly the pivot, Morne Steyn has been poor for some time, Lambie my current first choice due to the unavailability of Goosen has not played at 10 often enough this season, being injured a number of times and Plumtree choosing to go for the continuity of Mcleod and Michalack will significantly reduce his call up.
So who is left, Peter Grant, who had a mare on Saturday?
Frans Steyn and JDV are the obvious choices for midfield with JJ Engelbrecht, Juan de Jongh in the back ground.
Wings will most likely be Habana and Pietersen who have both seen an uprising in their form.
Chances are Lambie will be moved to full back and Zane Kirchner his back up.
When you consider that the Sharks will be ending their season only 14 days prior to the start of the Rugby Championship after the toughest end to a season in recent memory, how will this affect their performances in the Rugby Championship?
Chances are you could have as many as six Sharks forwards and three Sharks backs in the starting XV, it could be a very hard tournament for these boys to face.
Add to that the Argentinians are known for their hard as nails forwards, the Springoks could be hurting by the time they hit the Antipodes.
Meyer will have to manage his players very well to enable them to be competitive for another six weeks in the hardest and most competitive tournament on earth.
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August 1st 2012 @ 12:15am
Johnno said | August 1st 2012 @ 12:15am | Report comment
-We talk about lack of props in south africa how is Brian mujati rated. Is he seen as better than Jannie Du Plessis. Mujati is a big man.
Rassy Erasmus is the high performance manager or technical advisor, and he is a stormers man. He is a very intellectual man Erasmus, so he may give some cape town views to meters strategies. Either way books are strong on paper this year. it might be there JP in from of his life, Habana has improved a lot, the books were far more impressive than the rubbish Devilliers racked up. Even in 2009 they played a lot of rubbish. And on the subject of refs as has been a big topic yesterday, Bryce Lawrence was the ref in game 1 of the lions series. The 1st half where Vickery was penalised to the max in his scrum duel with the beast was laughable to be honest. The beast kept binding low and pulling him down, and Bryce didn’t see of course.
August 1st 2012 @ 12:47am
DG said | August 1st 2012 @ 12:47am | Report comment
Is Kanko available for this series?
It seems his contract in Japan begins in the first week of August, so is he available for selection?
He’s in the best inform No.8 at this moment- no doubting that.
August 1st 2012 @ 1:20am
Ben S said | August 1st 2012 @ 1:20am | Report comment
Interesting stuff.
The front row will be a problem area IMO as Werner Kruger is simply not of Test standard, and you don’t want your two starting props having to play regular 80 minute games, especially with the introduction of the Argentines.
Not sure on Daniel. He has had an excellent Super season, but I think he was exposed physically against England.
August 1st 2012 @ 8:27am
Ally said | August 1st 2012 @ 8:27am | Report comment
hopefully spies poor form will mean the 8 jersey is finally handed to another player as despite his obvious physical attributes he always comes up short against quality opposition. Kankowski looks awesome this season. Can Meyer not look over seas as I’ve always thought Joe Van Neikirk (apologies spelling) looked a test class 8. The Boks have some awesome players just need to get the right balance between flair and big men, far to much of the latter of the years.
August 2nd 2012 @ 12:05pm
mania said | August 2nd 2012 @ 12:05pm | Report comment
i agree ally – spies has imroved a lot this season btu still imo not enough to deserve a boks jersey. i woulda said vermeulen hands down half thru the season but now kankowski is knocking on the door. burger and brussow for the flanks
August 1st 2012 @ 9:13am
7andabit said | August 1st 2012 @ 9:13am | Report comment
Rassie coached the Stormers but he is a born and bred Freestater.
Did someone mention Brain Mujati? Your not serious? We are not that desperate.
Sarel is going back to the Cheetahs. So Pretorius, Goosen, Ebershon, Sadie line up look mouth watering.
As for Steyn can you really blame the guy for having a bad time behind a losing pack? That great Bulls pack are not there anymore to give him that front foot ball.
We need a 15 and Side Show Bob has no right being in a SA jersey.
August 1st 2012 @ 9:16am
Ben S said | August 1st 2012 @ 9:16am | Report comment
Brian Mujati the guy who has ripped up Europe, or Jannie du Plessis the guy who has plodded through 30 odd Tests…
August 1st 2012 @ 2:45pm
biltongbek said | August 1st 2012 @ 2:45pm | Report comment
You cannot be serious about starting Ebersohn and Sadie, Sadie hardly played this season and has struggled with form, Ebersohn may be a good player, but nothing has convinced me he is international class.
August 1st 2012 @ 8:42pm
Ben S said | August 1st 2012 @ 8:42pm | Report comment
Ebersohn was on fire two seasons ago. He’s really fallen off the radar.
August 1st 2012 @ 6:58pm
Royce Strauss said | August 1st 2012 @ 6:58pm | Report comment
If Brussow does not make the starting 15… THE STARTING 15… not just the squad, I will once again be disgusted. The on fire Sharks played the Cheetahs about 4 weeks ago… Brussow totally ripped them a new one. The Sharks couldn’t handle the heat at the breakdown and thus their attack was stopped dead. They couldn’t build any momentum at all. You see Brussow ripping the ball clean off a player, booting it down field, chasing and causing another penalty right in front of the posts… the Cheetahs led 15-6 at half time and had Brussow stayed on (he went off on half time with a corked thigh) no doubt in my mind the Sharks wouldn’t be contesting the final this weekend. As Brussow went off, replaced with Johnson – who is not a bad player – yet the floodgates open with the Sharks scoring a bonus point try victory.
I’d also prefer Alberts at 4 along with Bekker. Eben on the bench.
August 1st 2012 @ 10:59pm
jeznez said | August 1st 2012 @ 10:59pm | Report comment
Royce, I agree that Heinrich was having a screamer before he went off but the Sharks pack also got strengthened at half time with Bismarck du Plessis and Willem Alberts coming on off the bench.
I think Brussow’s form and the change in Sharks personnel both contributed to the difference in performance between the two halves
August 1st 2012 @ 6:59pm
chris said | August 1st 2012 @ 6:59pm | Report comment
I am worried about the frontrow’s workload, but not so much the others. With Brussouw in fantastic form and Schalk and Vermeulen coming back from injury the backrow should be fine.
At the back JP Pietersen would need a rest and the games against the Puma offers an opportunity.
Lambie and Steyn have not been involved in the epic world travels and should be fine (injury to Lambie permitting).
August 1st 2012 @ 8:52pm
biltongbek said | August 1st 2012 @ 8:52pm | Report comment
Chris when will Burger be available, I can’t find any new updates.
August 2nd 2012 @ 11:54am
Suzy Poison said | August 2nd 2012 @ 11:54am | Report comment
Burger and Vermeulen are apparently both going to play for WP in the Currie Cup. Vermeulen, maybe this week, Burger is still a month away, according to Coetzee. He has spoken to Meyer, who has both in his plans.
Johan Goosen, is now returning in September. Cheetahs are expecting him to play Currie Cup in September. That means he won’t be available for Boks tour methinks.
Meyer is either going to have to either make a tough call and go with Jantjies or Grant.
Or back his Bulls buddy Morne who is hopelessly out of form.
August 2nd 2012 @ 12:02pm
mania said | August 2nd 2012 @ 12:02pm | Report comment
Suzy Poison- vermeulen or kankoski ? vermeulens been more consistent but kankowski’s suddenly woken up and has had a blinder the last few weeks.
burger for captaincy imo.
August 2nd 2012 @ 1:30pm
Suzy Poison said | August 2nd 2012 @ 1:30pm | Report comment
Mania agree. Kankowski must surely start against Argentina. Spies has had his chance. Vermeulen is still coming back from injury. I think the Boks Loosies will be the Sharks three, of Alberts, Coetzee and Kankowski. It will be interesting if Brussow is considered for Australia, to combat Pocock.
August 2nd 2012 @ 2:25pm
tubby said | August 2nd 2012 @ 2:25pm | Report comment
brussuow really hasn’t been at the top of his game, odd bits that show how good he can be but I still don’t think he can justify selection right now. vermuelen would have been an easy pick a couple of months ago, but he’s not played in a long time. have to see how he goes for WP.
August 3rd 2012 @ 5:10am
mania said | August 3rd 2012 @ 5:10am | Report comment
suzy – and burger. u cant deny burger. he’s been consistently the hardest working bok for the past 6-7 years
August 2nd 2012 @ 3:02pm
biltongbek said | August 2nd 2012 @ 3:02pm | Report comment
I am not convinced about playing Brussow, if you select him then by implication you rely on one player to combat Pocock, when you don’t have Brussow then your focus is to get more numbers to the ball, quicker.
August 3rd 2012 @ 5:14am
mania said | August 3rd 2012 @ 5:14am | Report comment
thats a mistake in mentality biltongbek. its not up to brussow to counter pocock, thats the whole teams job. brussows job is to do what pocock is doing. no specialised poachers means much less turn overs unless you do it like the AB’s do it and that is everyone is responsible for pilfering.
August 3rd 2012 @ 5:38am
biltongbek said | August 3rd 2012 @ 5:38am | Report comment
Mania, but that is my point, you need everyone to do that, Brussow cannot be at every ruck, Burger or Coetzee for me adds more value.
August 3rd 2012 @ 6:08am
mania said | August 3rd 2012 @ 6:08am | Report comment
morning biltongbek – but if you dont have brussow who are the oppn going to be paranoid about? not only do players like brussow turn over vital ball they get into the oppn’s heads and they start looking for where he is. when thats happening then they arent concentrating on there own roles.
burger for me is a must as he’s the kind of player who even if his team isnt performing he’s still high output and quality. he’s the muscle of the trio, brussow is the finesse. with burger on the field then brussow can concentrate on the high level, turn over ball stuff that he’s good at. with either kankowski or vernuelen their dynamicism would further help obfuscate what brussow is doing until its too late and he’s got another turn over.
coetzee tho isnt a bad choice either and would be good vs a team that doesnt have a specialist fetcher.
AB’s dont have a specialist fetcher anymore as all the forwards do it now but this takes time to learn. boks havent been together long enough yet imo so need brussow there.
August 3rd 2012 @ 6:18pm
biltongbek said | August 3rd 2012 @ 6:18pm | Report comment
Mania, when you look at the hoghlnders during the Super rugby season, halfway through when they were still in the race for a play off they had 4 players in the top twenty with the highest pilfering Stats.
When you go look at the springboks, Bismarck is effective, Marcell Coetzee is effective and when Coneie Oosthuizen plays he has been more effective in any game he played with Brussow.
So for me the necessity for one pilferer is a fallicy, when you have two or three guys not being specialists but still effective pilferers, why have a specialist?
August 6th 2012 @ 5:21am
mania said | August 6th 2012 @ 5:21am | Report comment
good points. still brussow demands some game time but thats just opinion based on the fact that he’s already a proven performer in big games
August 6th 2012 @ 5:35am
biltongbek said | August 6th 2012 @ 5:35am | Report comment
You really think he has performed in big games?
I agree in 2009 he was immense, but in my view his effectiveness has waned since.
August 2nd 2012 @ 4:11pm
Royce Strauss said | August 2nd 2012 @ 4:11pm | Report comment
Honestly, Pocock is easily neutralized as long as a ref in the quality of Bryce Lawrence is not reffing. Brussow is one of those players like a Jaque Fourie, du Preez, Burger or Matfield that you just don’t drop, especially for a youngster like Coetzee who should be taken under the wing of his senior players. Brussow made a mockery of the Shark’s when they last played and Coetzee, Alberts and co. had no answer for it.
August 3rd 2012 @ 5:17am
mania said | August 3rd 2012 @ 5:17am | Report comment
totally agree royce. players should be selected on merit and form unless its proven class players like you’ve mentioned who u know on the big stage can absorb all the pressure and still contribute to the team. brussow and burger are those kinda players that never say die and even in a losing game are still giving it their all.
August 2nd 2012 @ 6:55pm
Jacko said | August 2nd 2012 @ 6:55pm | Report comment
Biltongbek, Why do you think a Pretorius (prefer van Zyl), Goosen, Sadie(better inside option), Ebersohn would be a bad choice? Strauss at inside center offers nothing more than defense! I think if the Cheetahs get their defense in order and add a world class lock they could be a massively exciting team (barring injuries),. Yes Sadie still has to prove himself, but the talent is undoubted and the Cheetahs will give him the freedom of expression he has not received by the defense orientated Stormers and the Kick and chase orientated Bulls… I think it could be an incredibly exciting time for him.
On a side note… saw Goosen practising kicks at goal at Grey over the weekend… 90% accuracy, with pass in tackle of SBW, a tackle of Ma’a Nonu, kick distance of F Steyn, game read of Carter and only perhaps to sharpen up on tactical kicking ala Wilkinson I think we finally have the real deal fly half South Africans have been waiting so long for. Also… Serfontein could be our answer to the Danie Gerber we require at outside centre next to Steyn!!! So much to be excited about… and for once its in the backline!!
August 2nd 2012 @ 8:26pm
biltongbek said | August 2nd 2012 @ 8:26pm | Report comment
Jacko, if Meyer allowed frnacois hougaard to play his natural game he will be my first choice, currently he is struggling because he is playing a game Meyer invented for the Bulls in the mid 2000′s.
Apart from Ruan Pineaar as back up due to his experience (and once again he is a conservative half back) there aren’t really any halfbacks standing out at the moment, You can look at any of Sarel Pretorius, Dewald Duvenhage, Mcleod, Piet van Zyl and they all have potential.
I have no doubt Goosen is our slavation to evolve our game, but realitically what are the chances coming back from injury and being played?
Maybe Meyer will give him a little bit of game time (I am hoping) during the Rugby Championship, but he is so stuck into Morne, I doubt he can see further than that. I am hoping I am wrong.
Our midfield is my concern, J d Villiers being made captain indicates that Meyer will play him in every test and Jean de Villiers for me should be put to pasture, but it ain’t going to happen.
There are a whole bunch of youngsters in midfield that could revolutionise the game for us, Jan Serfontein, William Small Smith, Johan Sadie, JJ Engelbrecht and Paul Jordaan, but iin my view they are all better than Ebersohn.
If Johan Goosen does become our first choice flyhalf, Lambie will be the logical choice at fullback.
I would just like to see Meyer look at the youngsters. Keep Frans Steyn at 12, I like him there and would prefer to keep him at midfield, he is big strong and can handle the physicality, But any of the above mentioned youngsters can make a big difference in the dimension of our back play.
Then you look at Jaco Taute, Killian and Louis Ludick, all capable of playing in the back three.
We have so much young talent, but we need a coach who has some gutspa to play them.
I won’t cry if Habana goes, but for right now he is showing some return to form, and obviously JP Pietersen is just in great form.