The best candidate for the Waratahs job is in Brisbane
By Paul Cully, 1 Aug 2012
Ewen McKenzie. AP Photo/Francois Mori
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It was against the Hurricanes in round 15 that doubts about Michael Foley’s longevity at the Waratahs really overtook the logic for both parties staying together.
On that miserable night in Sydney the visitors put the Waratahs to the sword, winning 33-12 and collecting a four-try bonus point in the process.
Replacement Hurricanes halfback Chris Eaton scored that final try at the end of the match, and not a single Waratahs hand was laid on him.
The NSW front row – deemed good enough to take on Wales over the following three weeks – barely made a dent in a Hurricanes scrum that included one promising but raw prop, Jeff Toomaga-Allen, who hadn’t even played NPC rugby in New Zealand prior to this year’s Super Rugby season.
Fast forward to this weekend’s Sun-Herald and Greg Growden’s column headlined “Foley has lost the dressing room”, which was the public death knell for his tenure.
A coach – especially one in his first year in the head coaching role – can survive a series of tactical miscalculations, but when it looks like the heart has gone out of the team, the curtains are being drawn.
Of course, there had been calls for Foley’s head well before the Hurricanes game.
Roar and Fairfax colleague Spiro Zavos had advocated a cleanout, arguing that Foley’s time as a coach with the Waratahs before taking the head coaching role meant he had to carry the can.
Another viewpoint – which was weakened significantly after the Hurricanes debacle – was that Foley deserved another year, with the harsh lessons of 2012 providing a tough schooling from which he would emerge a better coach. That argument will might be tested next year at the Force.
Regardless, the search is now on for his replacement at the Waratahs, and the demands are onerous.
The incoming candidate will have to be experienced with a thorough knowledge of the Australian player market. They will have an ability to communicate easily with a mixture of Test stars and up-and-comers, and build a rapport with the squad while leaving no one in doubt about who runs the show.
A track record of producing successful rugby, while allowing gifted players to express themselves in a way that is pleasing to the eye, would also be desirable.
If those requirements are not immediately pointing in one direction – to Ewen McKenzie in Brisbane, then the Waratahs’ recruitment radar is seriously on the blink.
McKenzie is probably the only man whose appointment alone could reinvigorate the Waratahs faithful and bring back some optimism into the franchise.
Presently the fans are better known for gallows humour and not turning up for games. How that would change with the best coach in Australia on deck.
Presumably, a number of obstacles will be thrown up in the way of a potential approach. Hearty servings of pride would have to be swallowed following the Waratahs’ decision not to renew McKenzie’s contract after making the 2008 Super Rugby final.
But the Waratahs are not in a buyer’s market. You have to wind all the way back to April for the last time they won a game of rugby.
It is time to take the medicine.
On the supply side, McKenzie might not be in the mood to take any calls. Frankly, who could blame him?
He might also consider that he has unfinished business at the Reds, although the hiring of Richard Graham does create a situation in which there are two head coaches in Brisbane next year.
But if the question is not asked by NSW, and until that rebuttal is received, will the Waratahs be doing everything within their powers to address the slide they are in? And if and when they get that knockback, they should go back again in two days with a better offer and greater reassurances things will run to McKenzie’s liking.
Other candidates have already been proposed, Michael Cheika among them.
Before his spell at Stade Francais, Cheika enjoyed success at Leinster, winning the Heineken Cup in 2009.
It was noticeable after this year’s Heineken Cup triumph that while Leinster the players hailed Cheika for introducing a winning mentality, they credited the New Zealander Joe Schmidt as the coach who taught them to win with style.
Still, Cheika’s ability to turn around the previously underachieving Irish province is a strong selling point on his resume.
Another name that should warrant consideration is Nick Mallett. The former South Africa coach was knocked back by England and reportedly declined a chance to be interviewed by the Blues, but he might find Sydney a closer fit to the Cape Town lifestyle he currently enjoys.
His fresh pair of eyes and no-nonsense style and certainly would shake up a side that has appeared to lack a rudder at times this season.
Paul Cully is a freelance journalist who was born in New Zealand, raised in Northern Ireland, but spent most of his working life in Australia. He is a former Sun-Herald sports editor, rugby tragic, and current Roar and RugbyHeaven contributor.
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August 1st 2012 @ 12:17am
Johnno said | August 1st 2012 @ 12:17am | Report comment
-LIstening to phil kearns on fox news he said he was annoyed with Foley and said Alan Gaffney was the leading candidate. As Bakkies pointed out a lot of the board are ex-players an old boys club. I hope Gaffney doesn’t get the head coach job.
http://www.foxsports.com.au/Rugby/kearns-slams-foley/video-e6frf4pu-1226439796593?subcat=1111112039622&site=FoxSports
-John mitchell looking for a job ex Ab’s head coach could do a lot worse and ex-force. Nick Mallett maybe Laurie Fisher may want to step up to a head coach role again. Maybe Andy friend or tony era may excel in a different set up, as with phil blake as phil blake is a sydney boy and coach damply well so knows the scene well up in tah land.
August 1st 2012 @ 1:24am
Bakkies said | August 1st 2012 @ 1:24am | Report comment
Fisher is a proud Canberra and Brumbies man I doubt he would touch the Tahs with a barge pole plus he has just moved back to Australia.
August 1st 2012 @ 8:44am
Chris said | August 1st 2012 @ 8:44am | Report comment
Fisher or Friend?
Every single player who has ever gone from the Brumbies to the Tahs has played worse in the Sky Blue. I doubt coaching would be any different. The Waratahs environment encourages nothing but mediocrity.
August 1st 2012 @ 4:00pm
Bakkies said | August 1st 2012 @ 4:00pm | Report comment
Can’t see Fisher coaching any other team. Don’t know about Friend. As for Rea he has just got a Superleague gig in the UK. The jury is out on whether he is a good coach or not. He hasn’t got results in league either.
August 1st 2012 @ 2:26pm
jeznez said | August 1st 2012 @ 2:26pm | Report comment
Johnno, NFJ and Gavin are very recent appointments to the NSWRU board – I think the old boys club call is a little bit off base.
August 1st 2012 @ 3:32pm
Johnno said | August 1st 2012 @ 3:32pm | Report comment
but jeznez NFJ and Gavin are ex players , and ex tahs. Why not get some non ex players on the board with sports administration backgrounds.
August 1st 2012 @ 3:58pm
Bakkies said | August 1st 2012 @ 3:58pm | Report comment
Chuck in Al Baxter too.
August 1st 2012 @ 4:33pm
jeznez said | August 1st 2012 @ 4:33pm | Report comment
Al is the players rep to the Waratahs board.
For the NSWRU as mentioned along with the chairman and president these are the board members:
Christopher Birch, Geoffrey Garland, Arthur Laundy, Peter Medway, Paul Timmins, Peter Veenstra and Bruce Worboys.
Are there enough non ex-players there for you? I don’t know who all of them are, nor how many have sport admin backgrounds. I think Farr-Jones and Gavin are exactly the type of people we need in there and having two very well respected ex-Captains of NSW to accompany the other seven board members seems well balanced to me.
Do you guys have issue with McCall up in Qld? He seems to be doing a reasonable job.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-05-15/farr-jones-heads-nsw-rugby/4013384
August 1st 2012 @ 4:53pm
jeznez said | August 1st 2012 @ 4:53pm | Report comment
As I said above I don’t know who most of the board members are but a quick google on them seems to indicate that:
Chris BIRCH is there as he is the head of the Sydney Rugby Union
Nick FARR-JONES Chairman, Independent Director
Tim GAVIN President
Arthur LAUNDY Independent Director is a successful businessman/publican
Michael MATHERS Vice President
Peter MEDWAY Independent Director
Geoff GARLAND Youth Director (NSW Schools Rugby Union)
Paul TIMMINS is the head of the NSW Suburban Rugby Union
Bruce WORBOYS Executive Director according to his appointment note has been a rugby administrator for about 30 years at grass roots, NSWCRU and NSWRU level
Peter VEENSTRA is the head of NSW Country
I couldn’t find anything definitive on Mathers or Medway – although there was a Wallaby lock back in 1980 called Mick Mathers, not sure if they are the same guy or not.
August 1st 2012 @ 3:13pm
Jeff said | August 1st 2012 @ 3:13pm | Report comment
I can’t believe that John Mitchell’s name is still being bandied about as a prospective coach firstly for the Blues [that vacancy has of course now ben filled] and now for the Waratahs.
The man is a train wreck.
Both at the Force and the Lions the players rebelled against him.
And the teams weren’t going well anyway.
Madness !!!!!!!!!!
August 1st 2012 @ 12:53am
DuffyV said | August 1st 2012 @ 12:53am | Report comment
McKenzie inherited a Reds side about to blossom thanks to the work of previous coaches and existing squad members.
He inherited allegedly (according to Australia) the worlds best half back, first five, lock and winger plus a host of other handy super rugby players and said team won a super rugby title, well some much more vigorously belittled coaches have won many more super titles than that!!!
Deemed a conclusive failure at NSW, thrown out of France prior to term, what has he actually achieved again???
I for one cannot wait until he gets his next job and it becomes three conclusive strikes you are out…….
Where else would get three strikes??? (Only happens in Australia because they need to cling on to perceived winners at all cost)
If over the last 12 years McKenzie is a winner then Australian fans and media need to redefine their measuring stick most urgently.
August 1st 2012 @ 1:22am
Bakkies said | August 1st 2012 @ 1:22am | Report comment
The only Reds coach McKenzie benefitted from was Phil Mooney. Andrew Slack and Eddie Jones were terrible as Reds coaches and set them back longer in their rebuilding program.
August 1st 2012 @ 2:20am
DuffyV said | August 1st 2012 @ 2:20am | Report comment
So Bakkies
Mooney gets a 1
Slack and Jones get a half each because we all know they purchased/developed some of these young players at the time.
WHAT IS YOUR POINT?????
August 1st 2012 @ 2:22am
DuffyV said | August 1st 2012 @ 2:22am | Report comment
Most importantly who did Link bring to the table???
GAME OVER – GAME OVER
August 1st 2012 @ 6:55am
soapit said | August 1st 2012 @ 6:55am | Report comment
wake up duffy. try looking at his season results and you’ll see he was far from a conclusive failure at nsw.
and look at some of the players that were lost from the qld system in the years before mckenzie came.
link would be pretty pleased if his predecessors had managed to lock in pocock and oconnor for him but they werent up to it.
August 1st 2012 @ 6:58pm
snowman said | August 1st 2012 @ 6:58pm | Report comment
Duffy your a joke, Give me a coach of Super Rugby who took the WARATAHS FURTHER than the final?…….I am waiting…….still waiting…….can’t hear you…….Oh no one.
Who else has taken a team in one season from the bottom of the comp to just missing the finals?…….waiting……still waiting…..Duffy can you talk? And then won the title the following season. Go cut some poppys.
August 1st 2012 @ 3:45am
Bakkies said | August 1st 2012 @ 3:45am | Report comment
92-3 cough. Jones took them to rock bottom with their worst ever loss and Slack’s heart wasn’t in to being a professional coach. I am sure he got a few wooden spoons in his time there.
Link well Gill, Shipperley, CFS, Lane, Harris, Slipper, Hanson to start with
August 1st 2012 @ 3:54am
Bakkies said | August 1st 2012 @ 3:54am | Report comment
Jono Lance, Schatz, Ed Quirk, Frisby, Beau Robinson
You have lost it soon
August 1st 2012 @ 6:40am
Big Boppa said | August 1st 2012 @ 6:40am | Report comment
DuffyV – you do have a short or selective memory – Link, after taking the squad to 5th in 2010 which he inherited from Mooney, he got rid of 13 out of 30 players and then won the title – thats 40% changeover of players. Add Harris, Sautia, Gill, Shipperley etc – Then go and look at the Tahs and have a look at the legacy players (Palu from league, Kepu from the Chiefs wider training group) need to take you blinkers off buddy
August 1st 2012 @ 7:34am
formeropenside said | August 1st 2012 @ 7:34am | Report comment
Slack coached for one season in 2003, and almost immediatly quit – he served out the year, but realised it was not for him. I think you are overstating the case. Eddie coached for one season, and the players made sure he went, taking a dive on the 92-3 result you keep bringing up.
August 1st 2012 @ 9:06am
Skip said | August 1st 2012 @ 9:06am | Report comment
I agree that Mckenzie in herited a good squad. He benefited from a very good attack plan and also Cooper, Genia and Hiiginbotham touring with the Wallabies.
He has added fitness and defence to the Reds and bought in experience Samo, Robinson . Shatz, Gill et all were recruited by Mooney into the Academy.
The Waratahs would benefit from Mooney, He would have learnt from his time at the Reds and Highlanders.
Mooney would also bring attacking flare and exciting rugby to NSW. Which is exactly what the long suffereing waratahs fans need.
Perhaps Andrew Blades could do the forwards.
August 1st 2012 @ 4:12pm
Bakkies said | August 1st 2012 @ 4:12pm | Report comment
A proud side like Qld doesn’t lose 92-3 even if they want rid of the coach. Only positive out of that game which I thought the Bulls should have racked up a ton was that the Reds couldn’t sink much lower. I have always said that the Reds have had plenty of talent in their squad but an awful mentality and lazy attitude. The creation of the Western Force was just a cope out a lot of them that went bar Ioane, Mitchell and Sharpe were mediocre and wouldn’t have made the grade in an underperforming Reds team. This was proven as the majority of them are gone from the Force. The Tahs lost way more to the Force and still do. They also signed the Brumbies succession plan for Gregan and Larkham.
The better Reds players who left went to the Brumbies and Tahs they all had valid reasons for leaving. The ones that left opened opportunities for other players.
August 1st 2012 @ 6:22am
Justin2 said | August 1st 2012 @ 6:22am | Report comment
Links record at naw a conclusive failure? Maybe check his record…
August 1st 2012 @ 1:43am
McKenzie? said | August 1st 2012 @ 1:43am | Report comment
Surely McKenzie’s move to coaching director, or whatever his title is, is because he is the next Australian coach. Isn’t that a given (even though he arguably made a large error in the semi)? Why on earth would he move aside for the utterly non proven Richard Graham?
There are one or two directors who have been around forever at Waratahland, and surely must step aside after years of mediocrity, Farr Jones was (is?) a successful lawyer. Don’t know about Tim Gavin. There were a couple of appointments where the incumbents seem to have good resumes.
Here’s an obvious statement – please Waratahs, a good coach and a good five eigth. Sounds obvious, but we have never had the combo I believe at Super level (I’d happily stand corrected, but I think I’m right there…?)
August 1st 2012 @ 2:29pm
jeznez said | August 1st 2012 @ 2:29pm | Report comment
Farr-Jones took over the chairman’s role for NSWRU in May, Gavin became president in April. They are very fresh appointments.
I don’t know how much influence they have had but in their limited time the Waratahs Inc chairman Edwin Zemancheff has stepped down and now Foley. There have been choruses calling for a board and coaching cleanout at the Tahs.
It is happening.
August 1st 2012 @ 7:30am
Darwin Stubbie said | August 1st 2012 @ 7:30am | Report comment
The answer for the Tahs is Robbie Deans – with a mandate to change to things …. He’d be far more productive for Aust rugby in an arena he’s proven successful in rather than floundering at the national level
August 1st 2012 @ 12:57pm
p.Tah said | August 1st 2012 @ 12:57pm | Report comment
I agree he would be good at the Tahs as Director of Rugby. One of Robbie’s strengths is his willingness to connect with the community. He understands the grassroots to rep process. He looks at the game wholistically. He also got Tahs players to fire at test level who had been floundering at Super Rugby level.
I doubt he’d take the role, but I’d vote for him. He’d be a great mentor for assistant coaches.
August 1st 2012 @ 9:03am
Handles said | August 1st 2012 @ 9:03am | Report comment
Link is the answer for NSW. But he would have to take Slipper, Horwill, Simmons, Higginbotham, Samo, Genia, Cooper, Harris, A Faingaa, Digby and Shipperly with him. Particularly Genia and Cooper, but some back rowers with heart, and some outside backs with brains would add immeasurably to the Tahs.
Which brings me to the big question – how is Lachie Turner in the Wallabies train-on squad while Shipperly is back to club football?
August 1st 2012 @ 9:09am
fin said | August 1st 2012 @ 9:09am | Report comment
Talent, Speed , Experience
August 1st 2012 @ 9:33am
soapit said | August 1st 2012 @ 9:33am | Report comment
talent debatable, shipperley has speed and recent experience with turner spending most of the year on the sidelines.
August 3rd 2012 @ 7:16am
fin said | August 3rd 2012 @ 7:16am | Report comment
Then he is in because of match fitness or lack of it on Turners behalf, but if they werte both fully match fit it would to be Turner and Shipperly with Vuna missing out
August 1st 2012 @ 9:34am
reds fan said | August 1st 2012 @ 9:34am | Report comment
which got him subsequently dropped from the squad when the extra Reds players were added. Including Shipps.
August 1st 2012 @ 3:14pm
Handles said | August 1st 2012 @ 3:14pm | Report comment
Ah! I don’t know whetehr to feel dumb because I was complaining about soemthing that wasn’t true, or relieved that Shipperly is in! Both is an option I guess.
Mitchell also out?
August 2nd 2012 @ 1:43am
jeznez said | August 2nd 2012 @ 1:43am | Report comment
mitchell still in, five wingers in the training squad – Ioane, Shipperly, Mitchell, Vuna and Cummins
August 1st 2012 @ 3:35pm
ted said | August 1st 2012 @ 3:35pm | Report comment
deans plays favourites……see Palu, Sharpe, Vickerman, Horne…..all rubbish, get straight in Wallabies
August 1st 2012 @ 10:56pm
Jutsie said | August 1st 2012 @ 10:56pm | Report comment
What a load of nonsense the only player who hasnt been a top performer for the WB’s in that list is horne.
And I find it laughable that anyone would criticise deans for giving sharpe special treatment, the general consensus has always been that he was harsh on sharpe despite huge improvements in his game over the last 2 years.
August 2nd 2012 @ 2:51pm
ted said | August 2nd 2012 @ 2:51pm | Report comment
Greg Clark “Sharpe pick n drive from a standing start”……makes no ground, predictable….good in lineouts for sure but really time to go….
Palu ….nothing, always injured
Vickerman plays no rugby gets RWC berth….favourites I think so Juzzie…..
August 1st 2012 @ 9:16am
Steve said | August 1st 2012 @ 9:16am | Report comment
Palu didn’t come from league. He was a manly junior and played for the waratahs in a couple of pre season games. He then spent time in jail and upon his release Ewen mckenzie enquired to his good friend Nathan brown about regaining match fitness with St George where he spent 4 months playing in the NSW first division.
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August 1st 2012 @ 9:29am
Happy Hooker said | August 1st 2012 @ 9:29am | Report comment
“McKenzie is probably the only man whose appointment alone could reinvigorate the Waratahs faithful and bring back some optimism into the franchise.”
No he isn’t. Jake White would be a far better option. How you can write an article about the topic and not even consider him beggars belief.
August 1st 2012 @ 9:41am
reds fan said | August 1st 2012 @ 9:41am | Report comment
probably cos White is still in his first year with the Ponies AND doing quite alot better than the Tahs. looks pretty obvious why he isn’t mentioned.
August 1st 2012 @ 9:33am
Andrew Thompson said | August 1st 2012 @ 9:33am | Report comment
Nick Mallett did great work with the Springboks before politics intervened to cost him his job.
August 1st 2012 @ 10:38am
Farmer said | August 1st 2012 @ 10:38am | Report comment
Why would McKenzie consider taking a backward step to NSW. Why would he want to throw his career down the drain and get mixed up with the Waratahs again. Having walked out of the swamp, why would you want to wade back in.
NSW needs a total clean out – the Coaching position represents about 40% of what is required. Any new Coach should insist on this before contemplating joing this dud franchise.
Get rid of the old boys club, get rid of the Board – a total clean out – as per Qld a few years ago.
Until this happens, they will not get another cent of my money.
I saw the other day that the Waratahs were looking to re-sign Tom Carter !! Say no more.
August 1st 2012 @ 2:34pm
jeznez said | August 1st 2012 @ 2:34pm | Report comment
Farmer -
* the current NSWRU president was appointed in April
* the current NSWRU chairman was appointed in May
* the team manager resigned earlier in the year
* the Waratahs Inc chairman stepped down this week
* the head coach has resigned this week
Is this the total clean out you are looking for?
August 1st 2012 @ 2:39pm
Andrew Thompson said | August 1st 2012 @ 2:39pm | Report comment
It’s a start …
August 1st 2012 @ 4:17pm
Bakkies said | August 1st 2012 @ 4:17pm | Report comment
I think he is referring to the play squad. Admin staff leaving is not new.
August 1st 2012 @ 4:55pm
jeznez said | August 1st 2012 @ 4:55pm | Report comment
Bakkies, I’m not so sure he is referring to the playing squad:
“Get rid of the old boys club, get rid of the Board – a total clean out – as per Qld a few years ago.”
August 1st 2012 @ 7:59pm
Bakkies said | August 1st 2012 @ 7:59pm | Report comment
Depends if the old boys club as a say on selections.
The thing I have against Farr Jones was that he was very vocal in his opposition to the ARC preferring the clubs.
August 1st 2012 @ 12:06pm
jameswm said | August 1st 2012 @ 12:06pm | Report comment
There is no way in the world Link would go back to NSW – not right now, anyway.
I like the Mallett and Deans options – both given carte blanche to keep/sack whoever they wanted, being the hungriest ones. The Dave Dennis types, who just put in the whole time. The Board would have to back them and tell the players all bets are off, live by your performance not reputation. I actually think you’d keep most of the players, who would respond to the new mentality. It might take till the 2nd year to see real results, as the new coach would have to assess the payers in the 1st year.