Wanderers look to grassroots fans
By TheBeautifulGame, 2 Aug 2012 TheBeautifulGame is a Roar Pro
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After only a few months into the Western Sydney Wanderer’s existence, the A-League’s newest team has also become it’s most talked about team.
The hype surrounding the club from before it’s existence has not diminished in the slightest and in terms of public interest alone people would be forgiven for thinking the club had been around for years.
In many ways the Wanderers have always been a part of Western Sydney but only now is the Australian public seeing the spirit of Western Sydney football find a unified physical body and one that all of Western Sydney can be proud of, no less.
Even the old NSL representatives of the region have something to look forward as the Wanderers begin their prime objective of connecting with the region’s football community.
In the weeks to come the Wanderers will face a number of local teams, at local grounds and give true fans the opportunity to watch the club build itself from the ground up in a way many argue football is meant to be watched, at grassroots level.
Strong ties with the community are essential if Western Sydney wants to be successful and unlike other A-League clubs the Wanderers must acknowledge and embrace the rich history and knowledge of the fallen NSL giants.
Early signs look positive but for long term success long-term programs are needed to track youth development and maintain communication with local clubs to ensure that the Wanderers don’t lose focus and continue to truly represent Western Sydney.
For now though, in terms of engaging with the community few can argue the Wanderers have failed. The club name, logo and colours have all received overwhelming public support.
However, arguably the clubs biggest and most successful move in regards to fan relations was the announcement of all home games at Parramatta Stadium.
Even in the days of the Western Sydney Rovers fans protested against the possible staging of home games at ANZ stadium. By rejecting the easy money on offer from playing games at ANZ stadium, the Wanderers will provide their fans what few other A-League clubs can in providing a truly local and intimate match-day experience.
Like the NSL clubs before them the Wanderers are working for their community and are making up for a decade of lost time.
Only by staying true to their values and honouring their region’s history will the Wanderers be successful in the decades to come.
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August 2nd 2012 @ 1:24am
GrantOz said | August 2nd 2012 @ 1:24am | Report comment
As an Eels supporter who never quite followed Sydney FC well enough, this is a prime opportunity to jump well and truly onto an A-League side.
The Parramatta move was a masterstroke.
August 2nd 2012 @ 1:35pm
mahony said | August 2nd 2012 @ 1:35pm | Report comment
It was indeed!
August 2nd 2012 @ 7:13am
MV Dave said | August 2nd 2012 @ 7:13am | Report comment
They are ticking all the boxes so far…long way to go though. Hopefully they will eventually challenge MV for the title of biggest football club in Australia…we need some competition!
August 2nd 2012 @ 9:19am
Brisbane Roar said | August 2nd 2012 @ 9:19am | Report comment
might as well go for the biggest, depending on your stats……….as the tag of best is well and truly taken
how long do MV fans listen to their self improvement cds each night before going to bed which say……..’MV is the biggest football club in australia…….MV is the biggest football club in australia.. Mv is the biggest football club in australia.’…………..zzzzzzzzzz………zzzzzzzzzzz………zzzzzzzzzzz
August 2nd 2012 @ 9:29am
Kasey said | August 2nd 2012 @ 9:29am | Report comment
I’m absolutely enjoying watching the genesis of this new team. It might seem fanciful, but already a few gracious MV fans(yes – they apparently do exist!) have posted on 442 how the evolution of WSW off the field appears to mirror the behemoth that is the Victory. In 2005 when the HAL was an idea on a scrap of paper, apparently MVC were being talked about in their formative months and already building a buzz similar to what the Wanderers are. I really hope that WSW eventually become bigger than MVC, not because of my natural AU v MVC bias, but because I believe the league would do well out of the shot in the arm from another hugely popular team, in this case based in Australia’s largest and most important media market. Perception is reality and it’s no coincidence that SFC’s failure to completely capture a good sized market share has lead directly to some extremely unfair and unflattering allusions being drawn about the wealth of the whole league.
August 2nd 2012 @ 10:05am
Brisbane Roar said | August 2nd 2012 @ 10:05am | Report comment
hey i don’t mind if WSW do well. they have potential to tap into a couple of million in western sydney. if the a-league is better for it i’m all for it too.
August 2nd 2012 @ 1:37pm
mahony said | August 2nd 2012 @ 1:37pm | Report comment
We do need the competition and we welcome it. It will take us to the next elvel while ensuring Sydney FC are lost to eternity. As to the Jakarta FC – the comment from the dullard below shows us their relevance deprivation syndrome is starting to nag at them….
August 2nd 2012 @ 10:22am
Sports Candy said | August 2nd 2012 @ 10:22am | Report comment
Lets not get carried away with the “its going to be the biggest club in Australia, bigger than MV” talk.
Sydney sports fans are very passionate but they are also fickle and if WSW don’t win many games . . .
65 days out from the start of the first game of season 8 and MV are abuzz with the new coach Ange and the new players coming in. They have sold nearly 12,000 memberships already and WSW about 1,000.
I know its early days yet and WSW are doing a great job, but that’s setting some very high goals to become the biggest A-League club when they haven’t even played an A-League comp game yet.
WSW will be good for the A-League and will draw more crowds and interest than the team they replaced, but lets not set them up to fail – there are a lot of people out there with a death wish for “soccer” and the A-League, even in west Sydney.
August 2nd 2012 @ 10:24am
Midfielder said | August 2nd 2012 @ 10:24am | Report comment
My reading is everyone wants this club to succeed ….
To date the management of the club has been excellent … yesterdays announcement that the members will appoint two of the clubs directors … I think an Australian sporting first…
The local games against former NSL clubs are a master stroke … crowds to date mid week in freezing winter conditions …
First match 3, 600 they stopped counting it is said more
Second match 4, 116 again they stopped counting
Next week … Blacktown City formerly Blacktown Demons
Week After … Sydney United …
August 2nd 2012 @ 11:09am
Kasey said | August 2nd 2012 @ 11:09am | Report comment
Mid – I am surprised at the lack of trolling on here from the usual Sockah-bashing suspects. Somehow this team appears to have built up some degree of goodwill – long may it continue. Or maybe they are keeping their powder dry for he first perceived failure, be it a low crowd or a bad loss on the pitch. Me I’m not worried, I think this new team have done so much right and will go from strength to strength once the season starts in 2 months.
August 2nd 2012 @ 1:38pm
mahony said | August 2nd 2012 @ 1:38pm | Report comment
They will be back – dont worry about it. You should see the war they are waging on WikiPedia lately. And they call us zelots…..
August 2nd 2012 @ 2:53pm
Bondy said | August 2nd 2012 @ 2:53pm | Report comment
Thats what happens Mahony when boredom sets in. Wiki.
August 2nd 2012 @ 2:55pm
Kasey said | August 2nd 2012 @ 2:55pm | Report comment
Mid..is the game v Sydney United at King Tom? Geez, if I lived in Sydney, I’d consider packing the thermals and the thermos into the car for the long trek inland for that one, a precursor to one an day FFA Cup perhaps?;)
August 2nd 2012 @ 10:26am
My 2 Bits said | August 2nd 2012 @ 10:26am | Report comment
Kudos to the Wanderers group, the people of Western Sydney and the FFA on this one. It looks like this expansion is going to work, because they went back to first principles; where football based communities are, a team should be.
Roar supporter here, but still excited to see this club grow and propser. Also makes for another good away trip….
August 2nd 2012 @ 11:59am
Fussball ist unser leben said | August 2nd 2012 @ 11:59am | Report comment
As Tarek Elrich says: “You can feel the buzz.
“It’s just a pre-season game but you saw, the fans were chanting, throwing flares. It’s great. You feel like you’re playing an actual comp game”.
Source: http://au.fourfourtwo.com/news/247109,tarek-you-can-feel-the-buzz.aspx
Flares at a pre-season friendly … welcome to the HAL
August 2nd 2012 @ 12:55pm
Sports Candy said | August 2nd 2012 @ 12:55pm | Report comment
Didn’t flares go out of fashion in the seventies.
Seriously though, while flares are pretty harmless and as far as I know no one has ever died from lighting one, they are not a good look and are not to be encouraged. The anti-sokka brigade seem to make a big thing out of it for some reason.
For me, they don’t add that much to the atmosphere anyway and in fact tend to quieten the crowd and cause a little unease for the police and security guards – they certainly don’t help with the cheering and chanting.
Maybe red and black vuvuzelas or crying Ray Price dolls . . .
August 2nd 2012 @ 3:18pm
nordster said | August 2nd 2012 @ 3:18pm | Report comment
‘not a good look’ babies lol…the consumption of alcohol or fatty foods at the ground poses more of a threat than flares. Banning them just means more people throwing them…allow them in the active areas. Banning them just decreases safety in fact!
And SportsCandy i am sorry but they certainly DO help with cheering and chanting. The punters love them even if there is much tut-tutting from the media box and gold seats
August 2nd 2012 @ 1:31pm
Kasey said | August 2nd 2012 @ 1:31pm | Report comment
I’m a huge football fan and I just don’t get the obsession with flares. I don’t see how they ‘add to the atmosphere’ over something like singing or chanting constantly while beating a big-arse drum instead, particularly amongst the younger brigade (confession – I’m 35) It annoys me no end that these idiot kids just don’t get the harm that ripping a flare does to the ability of the game to project a positive and welcoming image to potential new spectators. Now I know that unless you cop one in the eye (seriously – when has that ever happened? If one holds on to a flare it is 100% safe) they are safe – else why would they be mandatory ‘safety equipment’ for any mariner in this country? but after 30 years of the Lamestream media demonizing flares as ‘ evidence’ of hooligan behaviour, the last thing we need to be doing in our long struggle for ‘cultural’ acceptance is to be handing the bogan dominated media a further free kick with which to bash our game.
August 2nd 2012 @ 2:39pm
Gwils said | August 2nd 2012 @ 2:39pm | Report comment
You have to remember that atmosphere at the soccer is very important. It’s a far less satisfactory experience if the game lacks atmosphere. Flares add a lot to the atmosphere.
August 2nd 2012 @ 2:46pm
Fussball ist unser leben said | August 2nd 2012 @ 2:46pm | Report comment
Gwils
It’s no different to having pyrotechnics at any event, smoke machines & laser displays at concerts, etc.
It’s part of “the theatre”; not part of the sport.
August 2nd 2012 @ 2:51pm
Kasey said | August 2nd 2012 @ 2:51pm | Report comment
Gwils….bollocks, How do flares add to the atmosphere? Singing, drumming and and chanting adds to the atmosphere. If you cant make noise because your lungs are filled with smoke, then there is no atmosphere.
August 5th 2012 @ 3:05pm
Brick Tamlin of the Pants Party said | August 5th 2012 @ 3:05pm | Report comment
Not fan of flares at all and definatley not a fan of flares being thrown around,what a stupid thing for a player to come out and say.If the odd flare gets lit at a big game then so be it,one was set off at the Shed end against the Heart in the Finals last season,fizzled out in a minute and no harm done but if they are being brought in week in week out it only needs to get in the wrong hands and before you know it ones getting chucked at the opposition keeper,game gets called off and on the front page of the paper it goes,will be classed as a riot and then parents don’t take their kids to the football.I don’t care about what the media thinks anymore but if something like that happened we football fans can’t cry foul about it.
August 2nd 2012 @ 2:45pm
Tigranes said | August 2nd 2012 @ 2:45pm | Report comment
Flares dont seem to be a big part of the English Premier League, nor the J-League. And it hasnt hurt either league.
August 2nd 2012 @ 2:49pm
Kasey said | August 2nd 2012 @ 2:49pm | Report comment
I notice you didn’t mention the Italian SerieA, which is notorious for being considered a blokes day out and not really a family event. I would hate for that image to be developed around the a-League. Pyrotechnics and large Choreo’s are a part of what I would consider the best run football league in the world though, the Bundesliga.
August 2nd 2012 @ 3:36pm
Cpaaa said | August 2nd 2012 @ 3:36pm | Report comment
Cant people just except that the ocasional flare goes up in Australian Football?
The anti-sokha brigade loves it when they can write stories of flares related to football hooliganism.
Actually i think fitzy and wilson have already got an article ready to go to damage the WSW brand, watch this space
They have never given us a positive article, for decades, maybe forever, and as far as they are concerned, football is the anti-christ sport anyway.
So i dont give a hoot what the anti-media say, especially when flares go up in the hard nut supporters end.
Dad dont purchase tickets for the family in the supporters end for gods sake, leave these bays for the boys.
WSW supporters are going to come from NSL back bone support. Marconi, Sydney Croatia,Parra Malita, Bonnyrig, budapest and everything else, and they come from a culture where flares are the norm. If we are going to make a big deal about it, then it will be, lets just let boys be boys, take a chill pill and relax.
If you are against flares then you might as well be against graffiti in the inner city as well.
Both illegal, but something quite unique, extraordinary, appealing and beautiful.
A rose is a beautiful flower, but we just except that it has thorns as well.
A-League, FFA and its supporters have to except that its going to happen, dont punish the people that do, just say nothing at all.
August 2nd 2012 @ 5:18pm
Midfielder said | August 2nd 2012 @ 5:18pm | Report comment
Well said Cpaa and totally agree
August 3rd 2012 @ 12:17am
Sports Candy said | August 3rd 2012 @ 12:17am | Report comment
Personally I don’t care either way, but I can’t see how lighting a flare improves the game. Most A-League games I’ve seen there have been no flares and no trouble.
The point is they are illegal and the police and security guards will surround you and start throwing people out. Mixed with a bit of alchohol and the violence and trouble starts.
At an MV v Sydney game at SFS every thing was going great, then an MV fan lit a flare and threw it into the crowd. They thought it was great and started singing and dancing around it.
Suddenly the MV fans were surrounded by about a hundred police and security guards who were taunted and the fans started throwing things at them. The police charged at the MV fans and started kicking and punching them.
The MV fans retaliated and fights broke out everywhere and the police started dragging out the MV fans one by one in headlocks and handcuffs some of them bloodied and bruised.
Then the MV fans started lighting fires under the seats and the plastic seats started burning and sent up plumes of black smoke.
All this trouble started because of one flare thrown in the crowd.
This was in front of a group of friends, families and their kids who I was trying to convert and for most of them it was their first A-League game.
They were disgusted and have never been back to an A-League game.
So its ok for the boys to have fun, but look at the potential consequences. The FFA and the league are working very hard to clean up the game and the image, and in the main they have been successful, but there are still incidents that will give the A-League a bad name and lighting flares isn’t going to help.
August 2nd 2012 @ 3:23pm
nordster said | August 2nd 2012 @ 3:23pm | Report comment
As far as turning new people off, out in the terraces ive only ever heard them cheered.
August 2nd 2012 @ 3:27pm
Kasey said | August 2nd 2012 @ 3:27pm | Report comment
It is undeniable that flares are a tool that is used against the sport though by the media. My firm opinion is that if you love football, you should be doing your best not to harm it. and call me crazy – that means not btrreaking the law in an A-League venue, just because you think you’re too cool for school.
August 2nd 2012 @ 3:31pm
Gwils said | August 2nd 2012 @ 3:31pm | Report comment
It’s about having a good time. Let everyone have a good time, and people will go to games.
August 2nd 2012 @ 3:32pm
nordster said | August 2nd 2012 @ 3:32pm | Report comment
Its a nice neat black and white world u live in there kasey …you’re ex military right?
People arent perfect and think of basic fun and some safety sure, not media or PR safety.
There is no real logical reason for banning them, the opposite in fact …fear of being caught in possession means more thrown objects.
Lets at least be consistent and ban alcohol at the ground too. Far more of a threat to safety than flares.
August 2nd 2012 @ 3:39pm
Gwils said | August 2nd 2012 @ 3:39pm | Report comment
We don’t just want a good time, we want a gweat time
August 2nd 2012 @ 3:46pm
nordster said | August 2nd 2012 @ 3:46pm | Report comment
sounds gweat to me
Hey if they want to let me run match days we’d have some ‘competitors’ to alcohol in the recreational substance market tolerated at the ground too. And rasta flags!
…would certainly reduce the security and policing bills, perfect for these austere times…