Weekend Origin games a must: Hasler
By Darren Walton, 2 Aug 2012 Darren Walton is a Roar Guru
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New-age super coach Des Hasler has weighed into the debate around State of Origin scheduling and insists rugby league’s representative showpiece must assume stand-alone weekend status.
The issue has bubbled on the backburner for several seasons now but is on the hot plate after long-time competition leaders Melbourne and fellow top-four aspirants Brisbane and Cronulla endure a nasty bout of post-Origin blues.
Read more: Bellamy says fans are against Origin
The Storm and Broncos, in particular, were battered during the three-game, 10-week Origin series, while the Sharks soldiered on without the services of star duo Todd Carney and Paul Gallen.
All three sides were flying high in the top four entering round 18, the weekend after the Origin decider in Brisbane.
But with key players sidelined the trio have since managed just one win from 11 matches between them.
Despite his Bulldogs rocketing to the top of the ladder as their chief rivals faltered, Hasler said common sense must prevail with State of Origin matches moved from Wednesday nights to the weekend.
Chasing his third premiership in five seasons after guiding Manly to the 2008 and 2011 titles, Hasler said the Origin toll on clubs was a hot topic among the coaches.
“It’s probably more the mental side of it, though, than the physical side of it,” he said on Wednesday.
“With the new commission coming in, I’ve seen a couple of ideas flagged.
“I’ve seen maybe five Thursday night games, which was a huge success, and we’ve seen Sunday night games.
“So the obvious thing that can stem from that is that Origin would have stand-alone (status).
“If they were to do it that way, they would be able to free up three weekends to have stand-alone Origin football, which I think would help counteract that physicality.”
With the competition stretching 26 weeks but clubs receiving only two byes, Hasler said it was too much of an ask for representative players to keep backing up after mid-week Origin encounters.
“Origin, it’s a very competitive arena,” he said.
“It’s probably the most competitive footy and the hardest footy, particularly this year as the odds go up each year.
“So it will be even harder next year as the Maroons go for eight (series wins) in a row. So you can imagine the intensity that’s going to be around the games next year.
“And you can see it this year. The last two Origin games – the second and third one – they were just brutal encounters.
“I know they’re trying to work it with the byes and stuff, but there’s still a number of players having to back up Friday, Saturday, Sunday. It’s crazy.
“So I think that’s a pretty intelligent format – stand-alone weekends.”
Melbourne mentor Craig Bellamy, who coached NSW from 2008-10, says Origin is also taking a toll on fans, with many now hoping their aces aren’t even selected because of the damage it can cause.
Bellamy wouldn’t lay the entire blame for Melbourne’s five successive losses on the gruelling Origin campaign, but said the residue lasted long past the actual three games minus their stars.
“There’s a few other teams who’ve had an Origin hangover and this is probably the worst we’ve been,” he said.
Bellamy has long been an advocate for Origin being staged on stand-alone weekends and said the ARL Commission needed to look at the scheduling before it became a turn-off for fans and clubs.
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August 2nd 2012 @ 2:57am
AndyMack said | August 2nd 2012 @ 2:57am | Report comment
Seems a no brainer to me. Stand alone SOO games.
Helps the rep game, helps the NRL comp and helps the fans. Sure we might be deprived of a full weekend of NRL footy for those three weekends, but that makes us more hungry for the rest of the season.
A few internationals between lesser known countries in the pacific could help fill the gap. Cant be that hard to work out.
August 2nd 2012 @ 3:08pm
kid said | August 2nd 2012 @ 3:08pm | Report comment
“A few internationals between lesser known countries in the pacific could help fill the gap”
Or coverage of England v Exiles origin game, A NZ v England test match, NSW cup v QLD cup. Plenty of options
August 2nd 2012 @ 8:15am
turbodewd said | August 2nd 2012 @ 8:15am | Report comment
I agree with Hasler, let me provide some proof too. After game 1 in Melbourne (a sellout) the Storm hosted the Broncos and only got 13,200 to show up. And yet earlier in the season the Storm hosted the Warriors and got 20,000.
Origin kills club games. It doesnt need to. Origin shud be on a sat, sun or monday evening. No NRL games on that weekend. Fans will be clamouring for their club games the following week and average NRL crowds will jump a fair bit.
August 2nd 2012 @ 12:51pm
JonD said | August 2nd 2012 @ 12:51pm | Report comment
I agree. You could also reduce Origin games. No one will agree to this, nd it wouldn’t have made a difference this year, but if the first two games were both won by the same team and the 3rd game is a dead rubber then don’t have it. I can’t see that impacting the origin series at all (except maybe financially). No one really cares about a dead rubber anyway.
August 2nd 2012 @ 3:14pm
turbodewd said | August 2nd 2012 @ 3:14pm | Report comment
Normally dead rubbers dont rate, but the players and fans seem to take them seriously for Origin, so I dont mind either. 3 games forever!
August 2nd 2012 @ 12:58pm
KSI said | August 2nd 2012 @ 12:58pm | Report comment
SOO should be played on a Saturday night on a stand alone weekend. The comp goes to crap during origin. Better to have 3 byes and keep the comp more competitive.
August 2nd 2012 @ 3:24pm
tonysalerno said | August 2nd 2012 @ 3:24pm | Report comment
I have heard as a part of the new broadcast rights deal that Origin Games will continue to be played on Wednesday nights. The NRL may need to extend the season to accommodate the demands of the players if they were to play origin games on the weekend. Although if players suffer an origin hangover, the brand will get hurt in the rounds after origin…
August 3rd 2012 @ 12:01am
Bee Bee said | August 3rd 2012 @ 12:01am | Report comment
Could a RL boffin out there come up with some stats on number of origin players in all recent GF winning teams?
Another interesting stat would be to know how the side with the most representatitive players finished on the table.
That should give some real insight into the past effects of Origin. Eliminate the bias that seems to be driving this issue. Lets get down to cold hard facts.
On this topic. Something has bothered me for years. Hold your breath punters. Except in 2006. This seems to correlate in just about every other year. Whenever QLD win the origin. A NSW team wins the GF. And if NSW win the Origin, Broncos/Cowboys generally do very well.
I completely agree that Origin has deeper effects on player’s and teams than mere fatigue. Combinations, momentum, Intensity and confidence. All crucial facets to successful RL teams are rocked by Origin. Sometimes gently. Sometimes teams get washed overboard. Storm Sharks and Broncos are all treading water at best.
They are all still in the eight. And in this competetion, things can turn around fast.